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Oh now people are complaining about 4 and half hour PPV and having too many stories now?
Shut the fuck up and take that 50 million from Saudi Arabia to do a glorified infomercial for them.
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To answer the second question, AEW could not speak to Guilia or Kairi because they did not have any agents. Rossy was their agent. Given the success of Iyo and Kairi, Rossy may have started becoming a feeder to WWE before Bushiroad bought Stardom outright. The reason Meltzer wasn’t aware of it is because his ties were anti-AEW so he doubled down on the message that Tony Khan was wrong or wasn’t sure where Tony got the idea that Rossy was a fed agent.
It wasn’t that TK didn’t want to sign Guilia. It was that he wasn’t allowed to sign Guilia and after Rossy tried to funnel Mariah May and Megan Bayne to NXT not knowing they were already signed to AEW(and Mariah May’s abuser worked in NXT UK at the time), is when Bushiroad fired that ass.
one has to wonder just how deep it all goes with rossy ogawa, giulia and wwe?
did aew even have the oppertunity to talk with giulia? or was rossy pulling one of his main soldiers with him towards the wwe?
it's clear as crystal pepsi that rossy has infact been working with the wwe now with just how much he was holding back stardom not just with aew but every other indie like spark joshi.
and now that giulia will be showing up in the nxt takeover crowd tonight? i have many questions.
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It looks like Cody was trying to catch Melo with the Cody Cutter in midair RKO outta nowhere style. I see the vision but the timing was off with Cody springing off of the ropes a little later than Melo did. I assume this would have worked if both of them caught a glance at the titantron.
If Will Ospreay gets in the ring with Fénix or Action Andretti, we’ll probably see the vision.
But yeah, I don’t see why WWE even tries to sign workers if they are only doing 8 minute matches, tops. Makes no sense to be interested in Okada or Ospreay or even now Kimomiya if you can’t let them work. I mean what the hell are they going to do with Jacob Fatu, honestly? They should be interested in wrestlers like Wardlow.
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Lads, what the fuck was the goal here?
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…Y’all seriously just put 2 minutes of Dragon Lee on my screen, squashed Cedric Alexander in 13 seconds, and then botched Carmelo Hayes debut with Cody for 8 minutes.
Smackdown had 20 minutes of wrestling in a 2 hour show? Naw, that’s bullshit. 20 goddamn minutes?! It’s that what y’all sickos do over there? Holy, and I thought Cody’s monotonous promos about nothing in AEW were bad. I thought MJF trauma dumping every Wednesday was bad. I thought a CM Punk ran Collision was bad. What the fuck?
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Lol Tony went on air and called WWE the Harvey Weinstein of sports.
“But AEW has Ric Flair and hired Mike Tyson”
Oh, it was in poor taste of AEW to use WWE’s Hall of Famers in that light lol.
And he did this just as Wrestleconomics gathered a timeline of the Janel Grant case too.
Any other company in any other industry would be reeling from sexual trafficking, but WWE gets to act like they aren’t named? Naw. Fuck that.
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So is this like what super femme gf lesbians are like after coming out together?
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I think people underestimate just how unprepared wrestling media and wrestling content creation is to deal with what’s happening.
Like how in the fuck are you allowing a company undergoing multiple civil and federal lawsuits to not be able to rebrand, but also use you as a mouthpiece in their rebranding? Why are you uncritically parroting every anti-AEW story to mask every new development of the Janel Grant suit against WWE? How come no one has tried to investigate just why Ashley Massaro and Maria Kannellis were sent to an off the books Event to Kuwait where the former was drugged and raped in a coordinated matter that it feels like it was planned and prepared?
Talking about what Tony Khan wrote on Twitter is ruining AEW? Bitch, have you read that affidavit?!
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Who the fuck books a wrestling show in a city with the population of 6,000 with an arena that could hold the entire population nearly two times over?
It’s clearly not a wrestling city either. AEW Collision only sold 2,500 tickets and still set the arena record.
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It’s not benefiting anyone because Hook already beat him clean. What is the payoff here? While Hook had one of his best matches with Shane Taylor, his problem is that he needs to feel like a world beater in the likes of Samoa Joe, MJF, Ospreay, Okada, and etc. He needs to be hanging with Eddie Kingston or Will Hobbs.
Part of Hook’s hero’s journey is that Samoa Joe squashed him. And it’s his redemption arc. Jericho is no longer the man to beat nor is he someone with any tangible connection to Hook outside of Jericho calling his matches and saying glowing things about him. One would think Hook facing Shibata or O’Reilly would be a more tangible next step. Hell, Hook getting the ROH title makes more sense.
Seriously, this storyline between Jericho and Hook is not even benefiting ANYONE. This is just so boring. Hook deserves so much better than this.
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Knowing the bullshit that CM Punk pulled and has gotten away with really sets me off as a fan of wrestling. The double standards alongside with WWE now being in this hot streak amidst its own depravity makes me rabid. I admit that.
Nothing Tony Khan could do ever seems worth it. He gets slammed no matter what. And maybe someone else should take the reigns as the booker and let Khan fall back. Let him relax. Because Punk, and this is one point I’ll concede, was on him. Khan prioritized protecting Punk no matter what. People say Khan is not a real boss. No, it’s more like Punk was a personality that a boss like Tony Khan couldn’t deal with. Khan was blinded by his own fandom and it fucked everything up. Punk was allowed far too much leeway and good will. So yeah, that’s on Khan. I’ll hold it against him for it.
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But sure, let’s talk about a tape destroying AEW. Y’all are so unserious.
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No, I am not over this shit.
People say that Tony should have forced a sit down between the Elite and Punk and hashed it out. First off, Punk and his people assaulted the Elite. And when they came back from suspension, they proceeded to bring back the company and redraw interest in their best of seven series with Death Triangle. What was Punk doing? Shitting on them. Refusing to go to WBD events which inadvertently cost him movie gigs ensuring that Punk would be working the rest of his life(btw Punk was having money problems hence why he ever came back to wrestling at all). When Kenny was working on a program with Will Ospreay in New Japan and doing business in AEW, Punk was shitting on Kenny on Instagram costing AEW business. The Elite ain’t say shit about shit. They worked. And when Punk did come back to Collision, the first thing he did was bar Hangman out of the arena and proceed to bury him for no reason. Then he proceeded to bury Page repeatedly on Collision until his one burial went too far as it was unwarranted. Page didn’t respond and Punk looked like a bitch.
Tony Khan offered Punk a big feud with Jericho. Punk wanted to embarrass the Elite and get over on the Elite. So he refused Jericho and focused on MJF. Yeah, when MJF got pinned clean by Dax and Punk came out with some rubber title? That was Punk trying to force a feud with MJF because Collision booked by Punk was hot garbage. He refused to compromise and get the biggest baby face in the company and make amends with the Elite without forcing litigation on them. Punk wanted to be on Dynamite but was forced in the corner that was Collision where his drawing power was diminished. His show sucked. And when the Elite resigned, Punk wanted to get himself fired and assaulted Perry after throwing him under the bus in the dirt sheets to get out.
Punk says the Elite versus CM Punk would have drawn but Elite did not want to work with someone who accosted them and was constantly hostile to them. Mind you, when Colt Cabana came to Punk to make amends and offered to do a program with Punk(a tag team with Page and anyone of Punk’s choosing), Punk would not speak to Cabanna without a lawyer present. And that’s the theme here. Punk was allowed to get his way but no one else was. He was never going to compromise on anything except the complete humiliation of the Elite. That’s all he would have settled for. Page and Young Bucks didn’t do shit and stop aggressing after All Out. Punk kicked out and talked down to Ryan Nemeth. Punk lost the confidence of the locker room who didn’t respect him.
Punk is a piece of shit. That’s all.
Edit: you know what. Here is a detailed summation of Punk’s AEW tenure and the little bullshit he was up to in a podcast.
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Look at how no one reacted to their argument. It wasn’t heated. Phil approached Jack. Jack was calm the whole time. He didn’t instigate shit. Phil threw the first punch and escalated because Jack wasn’t getting punished like he expected him to be. Like a fucking child, he lashed out.
Do I blame Tony Khan for not breaking this up? That man was producing a show. Punk had no business getting in Jack’s face. And Tony never had to be a disciplinarian for anyone in his locker room except Max Castor and Sammy Guevara. Why? Because they are fucking adults except for those two. CM Punk instigated this whole fucking thing and made himself out to be some only sane man.
They are insane and I gotta respect the courage to show this
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This should have been on yesterday’s card but I’ll fucking take it. I expect a banger. Now put Takeshita on and let me enjoy some graps.
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I want to apologize to @blueonwrestling regarding Big Swole’s departure and how Tony dismissed her. AEW redeemed itself in how it handled black talent since while it will never sit right with me in how Tony attack a black woman, I went scorched Earth on a fellow left leaning wrestler enjoyer who also hates WWE. It’s been years and I’ve said some shit. But I apologize.
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Hangman is a really private dude. He doesn’t seek out media and never has gone off script before that promo. Dude just wrestles on his Wednesdays and Sundays and goes home.
Compare that to Sammy Guevara who I know is a bit of an asshole, who I know is a bit compulsive, who I know prioritizes himself over others and isn’t the safest person to work with. Sammy always had personality issues with other people who have worked with him.
This is to not say that Guevara isn’t talented. He is. Sammy is an asshole. He is arrogant. And he does rub people the wrong way.
Point is that Hangman had a squeaky clean rep prior to that promo and after that promo in several companies and indies he worked for including Punk’s former ROH. The fact that he did what he did, and spoke out against Punk speaks volumes about what Punk was doing behind the scenes. For fuck’s sake, even Eddy Kingston said the same shit. If Sammy got in a fight tomorrow, that seems on track with his record and reputation.
Now compare that to Bryan Danielson. No one has any problem with Bryan. Dude was given the reigns to do what he wants and he didn’t do it by browbeating the talent around him. In fact, every company that has worked Danielson had nothing but glowing things to say about him. Every company Punk has worked with, there was always a fight or some bit of controversy. Always some bullshit. Always some fights. Before we ascribed that as Punk being rambunctious instead of cantankerous. We thought it was punk being rebellious in an industry full of fakes and carny when he was just selfish and unimaginably disagreeable.
CM Punk in early 2010s was rallying against a wrestling company that hated wrestling. Since then WWE NXT was a thing, NJPW took off, and there were plenty of alternatives before AEW became a thing. Punk wasn’t the rebel anymore. He was the bare minimum. Punk before anything was a Cornette guy. And in a company built around Kenny Omega matches and the NJPW style, this wasn’t going to fit for Punk ever. Punk was the relic. Punk was the Vince. He was the conservative. He was the old man yelling on his podcast about what the kids are doing. He was the asshole.
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Will in between 2022 and 2023 traveled between Japan, UK, Australia, and the US and wrestled in several indies, AEW, RevPro, 1PW, NOAH, and TNA. He has worked several programs in 3 different companies.
In his first week in AEW, the dude wrestled Takeshita and Fletcher within 4 days in 20+ minute battles.
Just because the man didn’t work 300 days a year and chose a schedule that maximizes quality over quantity, doesn’t mean he isn’t the hardest working performer in the business.
Saying Ospreay is afraid of the grind is actually hilarious considering he almost broke his whole body committing to the grind
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