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This is what an evil boop looks like.

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Reblog to keep the boops going!

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Oh, they're report that Chance Perdomo has been killed in a motorcycle accident. Truly heartbreaking. I haven't had a chance to watch Gen V yet, but his portrayal of Ambrose in Sabrina made Ambrose my favorite character on the show. Such a talent.

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The Archies

I guess you can make a decent Archie musical.

Decided to watch The Archies movie because I was curious how it would be adapted. Honestly, I was pleasantly surprised. So, this is a movie that is based in India. The characters were much closer to their comic counterparts then in Riverdale. The plot is simple enough, the gang is trying to prevent the local park from being destroyed by Hiram Lodge. The Betty/Archie/Veronica triangle is here, but it's much more realistic then what is in the comics.

But what fascinated me was...well, when I first heard of the project, I wondered why Archie and why the '60s? I'm not going to go into to much detail, but it's kind of used as a way to teach a little about the history of India. Specifically, about those whose were of both Indian and English heritage. I mean, it's not a deep dive here, but enough to make me want to learn more.

Now, I will say that the movie is 2 and a half hours long and I did not watch it all at once. Kind of here and there throughout the day. And it's not something that I will ever watch again, but it actually was enjoyable.

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Quiet on the Set: The Dark Side of Kids TV

This isn't a review or, really, a recap of the program, just some thoughts I had watching it.

Like many, I grew up watching Nick. That being said, the time Dan Schneider started was around the time i really stopped watching. I've heard of all these shows, but beyond a few episodes of "All That," I really haven't watched them. The funny thing is, this documentary is the first time I realized that Schneider was one of the kids from "Head of the Class." (although, in fairness, I never really watched that show either).

One thing I think this documentary did well is how they were able to show these sketches weren't innocent. Look, there's no denying that there are people who look for things to be offended about. But when you hear the behind the scenes stories, especially how Schneider treated the women writers and the women in the costume department, there's no question that these sketches weren't innocent. I'm not saying that kids shows can't have some jokes aimed for adults. But there is a line. And having young kids act out something that is a reference to a sexual act, that is way past that line.

As for Drake Bell's story, that is just horrific. I know that Bell feels like Schneider supported him (and possibly he did in his own way), but the fact that Schneider was able to figure out that Bell was the accuser as soon as Peck was arrested, tells me that Schneider had to have realized something was off about how much attention Bell was receiving. And he chose to do nothing.

As for those letters of support...I understand that the actor's weren't told the whole truth. But I don't think that's an excuse. I mean, they might not have known who the accuser was until they were in court, but they would have known that he was a minor. And actors like Alan Thicke and Joanna Kerns, who would have been in their 40s or 50s at the time...yeah, there's just no way I could hear someone I knew was convicted of a crime like that and not have a thousand questions. And there's no way in hell I'm going to write a letter saying a 40 year old man was tempted by a minor.

As for Nick, and their lack of support for Bell, Bell does mention that he didn't know if Nick knew he was the child in that case. I'm sure that's true. I'm sure Schneider didn't say anything as it could cost him his job. But let's be clear, Nick didn't know because Nick didn't want to know. They had to have known Peck worked on their shows, they could have done an investigation. Hell, sending someone down to the courthouse the day Peck was convicted would have given them the truth. So, again, no excuse.

And, to wrap it up, how do we protect children on tv shows? Well, there are a lot of laws to protect them. But who enforces them? A lot of it seems to be left to the idea that the parents of the kids will do it. After excluding the parents who just see their kids as a cash cow and don't really care about their well being, you still have a bunch of parents who are in no way shape or form ready to take on these big studios. That's not to say there weren't times in this documentary where I didn't question why the parent didn't step in, even if it did end their kids career. But the only way to make sure the laws are being followed and that kids are physically and mentally safe, is to have someone onset who is versed in child psychology as well as the rules that dictate how child actors are used. And it would have to be an independent party, not someone who works for the studio. I doubt that's something that will happen any time soon.

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The Righteous Gemstones, Ep.3x09 - Wonders That Cannot Be Fathomed, Miracles That Cannot Be Counted

...What the fuck?

I mean, points to the fact that everything somehow tied into each other, no matter how contrived and quickly resolved. Well, except for never showing that one Conversation we needed to see. But c'mon...

So, Baby Billy knows Dusty and figures he can get Dusty back in the church if the Gemstones will compete for him with the other Church family on Billy's tv show. The siblings agree. Why Billy didn't bring this up till now...

Peter and Chuck are trying to get the truck to the church. And I'm confused as to where they are because it seemed like it shouldn't take them more then a day to get there. Or did they all drive that far away? Peter goes inside a store and Chuck decides to blow the truck up. In a parking lot. But don't worry, he waited until people weren't close. Uh, there's no way in hell no one got injured.

Chuck makes his way back to the Gemstone house and, long story short, agrees to go on the gameshow with his Karl and the siblings. Peter, thinking Chuck is dead, and doesn't know where to go, asks God for a sign. At that moment, Keefe happens to pull up with one of the church vans and goes inside the gas station. Peter steals the van.

They day of the game show arrives and Eli, May-May, and Gideon are driving there together. They see Peter in the van and follow him to the church, where the gameshow is taking place. Peter reveals that he has a new bomb and that he's wired it up to his Fitbit. Basically, if he goes they go. At this point May-May tells him that Chuck is still alive. Feeling that his whole family has betrayed him, he doesn't know what Jesus would want him to do.

Also, the gameshow isn't going well.

It's at this point a...I can't believe this...a swarm of locus hits the Gemstone church. And there is chaos. People die. Vance knocks over Dusty, but Jesse saves him. And this convinces Dusty to come back to the church (he will die not long after in his sleep and will leave everything to them). Then, Jesse goes to save Eli. And, in the end of this, with people dead and injured, May-May says this was a sign from God. I guess to bring the family together? And then a locus knocks the Fitbit off of Peter's wrist, arming it.

I'm starting to think that the powers that be might want the Gemstones dead.

Anyway, Peter decides to drive the truck away from the church, sacrificing himself. Except he doesn't...he just looses a leg.

At the end of the episode, we find that Jesse is sending the middle child to military school. Jesse realizes, and never Eli did, is that a child can't be handed everything in life, they need to learn to do things on their own. Judy and BJ are promoting Amber's relationship program and Judy kind of warms up to Amber. Kelvin and Keefe, who now are in a relationship, decide that maybe going after sex shops aren't a good idea and that maybe they don't judge what people do in the privacy of their own home. Gideon asks Eli to teach him how to be a preacher.

And, at the end of the episode, the whole family gathers together as Amiee-Leigh looks on.

Yeah, I just didn't enjoy this season as much. I didn't hate it, it's just that it feels like some of it is getting a little old. I know that there's a forth season in the works and I kind of feel like this is the time where the Gemstone siblings come more into their own, or their spouses take over the church, something to finish up the series.

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The Righteous Gemstones, Ep.3x08 - I Will Take You by the Hand and Keep You

I just can't get into this season. I think part of it is because...I think the writing isn't as tight as the previous two seasons.

For instance, the whole Jesse not liking how successful Amber was. It was something briefly brought up twice and then resolved in this episode, with Jesse admitting he was jealous of her success. There was really nothing to this and really nothing that added to the story, except giving Amber more scenes.

As well as the whole racer/other church thing. I get that this shows that they are loosing important members and it also shows how the siblings are still divided. But, at the same time, it took away from the main storyline. Like the whole thing with Dusty could have been him saying he's going to this other church as he liked how the sibling's where united. We didn't need to be introduced to those siblings at all. Or the whole Cape and Pistol, did we really need another example of how Jesse isn't his father? We get that.

Anyway, brief recap. And I do mean brief. The kidnapping helps reconnect BJ and Judy. Jesse realizes he's been unfair to Amber. And, at the end of the episode, Kelvin decides to act on his feelings and kiss Keefe. All of the siblings are angry at Eli for not paying the ransom (Which, fair). But that anger has connected the siblings in a way that no other thing has, so Eli is content. Judy and Kelvin decide to rejoin the church and it looks like the three siblings might be ready to...at least share the stage with each other (look, I'm not expecting a miracle here). Also, they forgiven Karl as he helped them escape.

As for Peter, well, the Militia no longer has faith in him. They've decided they would rather protest those who protest statues. Peter and Chuck leave with the truck that has the explosives. But then Peter calls and informs the ATF where the Militia is. Chuck ask Peter where they're going with the truck and Peter says to church.

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The Righteous Gemstones, Ep.7x07 - Burn for Burn, Wound for Wound, Stripe for Stripe

At couple of posts ago, I mentioned I was concerned about how one part of this season was being played out. At this point, unless there's some twist or flashback, there's something that should have been shown in this season that wasn't and it's a problem. Also, I can't lie, I'm not enjoying this season as much.

So, this is an extremely quick recap. We start with Judy getting supplies at the Drug store so she can help BJ. As she's driving home, rather as she's at a stoplight, she's kidnapped by the Millita. Not long after, her siblings are captured as well. It seems like the two cousins have been working with Peter for quite some time (which I will get back to in a second). It's also clear that Karl is less then happy with this whole plan. Peter let's Eli know that he has his kids and will only gives them back for 15 million. Eli, angry, goes to May-May and tells her what her sons have done. She doesn't believe it at first. Eli calls the police.

Kind of skipping ahead, Eli decides not to pay the 15 million. Both he and May-May don't actually think Peter will do anything to the siblings, that he'll do the right thing. And they might have been right if it were just Peter and the cousins. However, Peter has followers who are a lot more blood thirsty then him. And they believe Peter should kill one of the siblings. And if Peter can't do it himself, they'll do it for him. So, Peter makes the decision to kill one of the three after church services.

Of course, this leads to the siblings having their heart to heart moment of the season.

Also, and I'm mentioning this as I think this will be important later, we have a scene with BJ, Amber, and Gideon discussing about how they're part of the family, yet have no ability to make decisions.

Anyway, Gideon catches May-May taking a phone call and driving away. He followers her in Eli's car. They end up at the Milltia camp. It turns out Karl has called May-May to come and rescue the cousins. They all try to escape, but are stopped by Pater and Chuck. May-May ignores Peter, knowing he won't shoot her. Peter tells Chuck to shoot his mother, but it's clear Chuck doesn't want to. At this point Gideon, who's found the Monster Truck, saves the family. Gideon proceeds to wreck the camp and they all escape.

Here's the problem I'm having with this season. In episode two, we saw Peter threatening the two boys and them running away. We saw the two boys choosing to stay with the Gemstones when Peter came by the restaurant. When, exactly, did Peter get the boys on his side? Did he talk to them after the restaurant and we just weren't shown? Were they always on his side and the whole thing in episode two was fake (something that really doesn't make sense)? There's clearly an important conversation that happened at some point that we haven't been shown. Now, there are still two episodes left and so this could be something that is shown in a flashback. But if it's not, well, this is something that should always have been shown. It's too important to the plot to leave it as a "assume this happened" kind of thing. It's the basic show, don't tell. And, quite frankly, I would rather have had that scene then another scene of the Gemstones bickering.

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The Righteous Gemstones, Ep. 3x06 - For Our of the Heart Come Evil Thoughts

Hate to say it, but parts of this show is starting to wear thin. It may just where we are in the season, but it feels like we're exactly where we usually are by episode 6/7 in each season. Just going to keep this real brief.

Kelvin has a new Assistant Youth Pastor, Trudy, who's good at her job. Keefe is working at a local place that makes wood furniture. Kelvin and Keefe are jealous that the other seems to have something that works outside of their "friendship". Just have them figure out their feelings already.

Stephens wife is threatening to tell the congregation about the affair, if she doesn't receive money. Judy tells Eli, but he doesn't want to deal with it. Judy pays the woman and apologizes. And to be clear, the wife clearly is doing this to get money, I doubt she even cares her husband cheated.

Not like BJ, who is dealing with a lot of hurt and rage. Jesse convinces BJ to go after Stephen, which he does after Stephen texts Judy again. The fight doesn't go as expected (understatement of the year). But BJ does win. However, a small crowd has seen what BJ did and it's clear BJ is filled with shame. He goes home, bloody and wounded, and say to Judy that he hopes she likes him now and then goes upstairs.

And here's the thing, it's clear in this episode that she knows she's hurt BJ. That fact that she went to Amber for advice makes that obvious. But it's not until this scene that Judy realizes how bad she fucked up. Like there might not be a way back from this.

Finally, there's Jesse. First, he gives the Monster Truck to his cousins as they are leaving the family home (and the immediately take it to Peter and say they stole it. Really not sure where loyalties lie here). Then, he insults Amber by saying his running the church is more important then her support group. Again. Finally, he shows the family the hologram of Amiee-Leigh. Which upsets Eli enough that he storms out (after breaking the machine) and the siblings quit or they'll quit.

Oh, but Baby Billy got his show green lit...so, that's nice.

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The Righteous Gemstones, Ep. 3x05 – Interlude Three

That’s the one thing about this show, one twist can absolutely change things.  Like I didn’t think I could feel any sympathy for Peter and, in fact, I didn’t think this is how Peter’s story would go.  Of course, I’m referring to his past.  Like the other Interlude episodes, this is set back before Amiee-Leigh's death.  This time it’s the year 2000. 

Also, we actually have two stories going on here.  One is Judy’s, which I’m going to touch on this briefly.  Judy is socially…who knows where to begin.  She clearly doesn’t fit in socially, but her parents might be right that she has some undiagnosed mental illness.  Although I felt sorry for Judy as she heard her parents not only say that, but joke about it.  Anyway, this is also the first time Judy meets Amber and she treats her like dirt.  She even steals a ring that Amber has that was a gift from her deceased Grandmother.  Jesse storms into Judy’s room to demand the ring back, but he finds her crying.  This leads to them discussing how Judy feels like there’s something wrong with her and how she liked this boy and he decided to play a cruel…no, let’s call it what it is.  He cut her hair off in class in order to embarrass her; this is not “playing” nor a “joke,” this was cruel.  But Judy and Jesse talk and Judy gives the ring back to Amber.  Also, Jesse gets revenge for his sister.  It’s kind of a nice “b” story to show that the siblings do actually care for each other.

The main story comes down to the events that lead to the split between the two families.  The Gemstones run this big Megachurch and the Montgomery’s have a smaller one.  Now, May-May does not approve of Eli’s wealth and is very strict on Peter and the boys; it’s clear she runs the house.  And Peter is just this preacher who trying to do good by his family.  However, going back just a bit, the Gemstones had been selling these Y2K kits because, you know, the whole society as we know it could end because of the Y2K bug.  Then, it didn’t happen.  People in the Gemstone Church are pissed as they feel like they were conned (which, they were) because they bought these kits.  And May-May is kind of glad of that as she feels like her brother has this coming to him.

What she doesn’t know is that Peter believed in Eli’s hype and bought a ton of these kits in hopes of keeping his congregation safe/possibly selling these items after Y2K hit.  It turns out he spent their entire savings.  He breaks down to May-May, who then confronts Eli.  Eli says that he’s willing to help the family by buying the items back (which is around $25,000 dollars worth), but May-May won’t take the money.  She calls it evil.  Furthermore, she blames Amiee-Leigh for this whole mess, saying that she enables Eli.  Eli throws May-May out of the house

This takes Amiee-Leigh aback and, later, she has a talk with Eli.  And we find out why they sold these items.  It wasn’t that they believed Y2K would happen, but they had this fanciful idea that if it did happen that they could go back to a simpler time.  And them wanting that simpler time, kind of made them conn themselves into believing it could happen.  That being said, they still knew this wasn’t going to happen and they still took people’s money and they ain’t giving it back so…they can have any excuse they want, it was still a conn.

And this conn really hurts people.  In fact, it makes them desperate.  And desperate people do stupid things.  Peter, for instance, decides to rob a bank.  It doesn’t go well and Peter kills a guard and is shot several times.  Now, obviously, this will lead to the May-May attacking Aimee-Leigh like we saw in the first episode.

It also now makes me question if we should trust May-May.  Could it be that she, Peter, and the cousins have been acting like May-May and Peter have separated, but they’re actually working together?  I mean, just because Peter said that May-May isn’t to be trusted in front of the Preppers doesn’t mean he’s telling the truth.        

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The Righteous Gemstones, Ep. 3x04 – I Have Not Come to Bring Peace, But a Sword

This episode kind of lost me a bit.  Part of it is because I feel like some things don’t make sense, maybe, and the other is because some of it’s been done before.

May-May and the cousins are invited to sit with the family at church.  Later, they go with the family to dinner.  Peter shows up and acts like he's apologizing to his boys.  Eli tells Peter to leave, and Peter challenges him.  Peter really should have considered that half the family would probably be armed.  Anyway, he leaves.  And, at this point, everyone pretty much has their own story.

Judy is getting messages from Stephen, which she tries to ignore.  When that doesn’t work, he starts to stalk BJ.  And, uh yeah, Stephen is a complete Sociopath.  But, long story short, BJ finds out that something happened during the tour. 

Keefe is asked to run the Parent and Teen outing, which doesn’t go well.  Well, it doesn’t go well because the guy from the sex shop recognizes him.  And Keefe isn’t so good with words.  So, instead of explaining to the parents that he bought the stuff in order to burn it and get it away from people, he uh…let’s just say people don’t want him as Assistant Youth Pastor anymore.  So, for the good of the church, Kelvin tells Keefe that Keefe will be working with the Refugee section of the church from now on.  However, Keefe feels he needs to distance himself from Kelvin and decides to move out.  The thing is, this is very much a variation of the plot from the first season (except instead of kicking Keefe out, Keefe is moving out) and we really don’t need to do this again. 

Meanwhile, Jesse is going through quite a few things.  He’s inducted into The Cap and Pistol, but he clearly isn’t the right fit and gets punished on his first day.  Baby Billy tries to get Jesse to get him into the club, but Jesse doesn’t.  Billy says Jesse’s problem is that he’s trying to run the Church like Eli, but he can’t be like Eli because he doesn’t have a star by his side like Eli did.  But Billy can fix that.  Turns out Billy had a hologram created of Aimee-Leigh, so they can "resurrect" her.  I’m not sure how to feel about where this is going.  I can maybe see some people in the family being rich enough for that tech, but not Baby Billy.  Anyway, Jesse goes home and finds his middle son having sex with her girlfriend.  In the living room and, uh yeah, no one needed to see that.

Finally, Eli and May-May are starting to reconnect.  And it seems like the cousins are happy to be living with Eli, even to the point they’re doing yard work (or so they say), and trying to make amends with their mother.  That is until they steal a tons of ammonium nitrate from the Eli’s compound and give it to Peter.  Now, I hope that we’ll find out that sometime between the dinner and this scene, that Peter got in contact with the cousins again and threatened them into doing his dirty work.  Otherwise, I’ve got questions.

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The Righteous Gemstones, Ep. 3x03 – For Their Nakedness Is Your Own Nakedness

This will be pretty short, as this episode was more of a…not quite a character piece, but more focused on the characters and only slightly advancing the plot.  Still, it was a pretty sweet episode in the end.  Also, did the actor who plays Keefe really do that performance, because it’s impressive if he did.

We find out that Baby Billy is working at Zion resort as a singer.  He and Tiffany are still together and they have a second child on the way.  Baby Billy is bored being a lounge act and has decided he wants to create a gameshow (which totally doesn’t rip off Family Feud).  He pitches it to the Gemstone siblings, who reject it.

Meanwhile, Jesse has told Amber about Judy having some sort of relations with guitarist.  Amber goes to Judy’s home to drop up a kit from Amber’s marriage program, but only BJ is home.  Amber tells him there isn’t a reason why she’s dropping it off, other than she just wants Judy to see it.  Still, Judy knows why Amber has brought it and confronts her.  Amber makes it clear that she’s doing this because the church doesn’t need a scandal; but seems satisfied when Judy tells her she’s broken it off with Stephen.  Still, it’s clear that Judy isn’t so willing to let this go.

At the same time, May-May has reunited with her sons.  Well, she talks with her sons at Eli’s house and when it’s clear that they won’t leave with her, she’s asks Eli to take care of them.  Eli isn’t thrilled, but he agrees.  He tells the Gemstone siblings to be nice to their cousins, but they’re having none of it.  And we get a scene where the cousins find the Monster Truck from the first episode.  This leads to a confrontation with Jesse.  But what we get from this scene is that it is obvious that the siblings and the cousins used to be close at some point, but the Gemstones no longer want anything to do with them.  I’m guessing that the siblings know about the attack on Amiee-Leigh and are taking it out on their cousins.

Long story short, Eli tells his children to invite their cousins to a “Cousin’s night.”  Just before the cousins leave for that event, they happen to let it slip that May-May is living in the old church.  Eli and Gideon go to the church, where Eli and May-May start to fix it up and Eli invites May-May to come live with the Gemstones.  Meanwhile, Gideon starts to read one of Eli’s books.

At the Cousins’ night, Baby Billy has weaseled his way in by reminding the Gemstones that Billy’s son, Lionel, also a cousin.  Baby Billy also tries to sell his gameshow again.  But instead of having a fun time, this leads to an argument between Jesse and Chuck (one of the cousins).  Knives are drawn and things get tense until BJ points out that the other cousin, Karl, is choking on his food.  The siblings and Chuck work together and are able to save Karl’s life.  Seeing how upset Chuck is at almost loosing Karl, makes the Gemstone siblings realize they’re being too harsh on their cousins.  At the end of the episode, Jesse tells the cousins he will drive them back to Eli’s home in his golf cart and we see the cousins, Jesse, and Amber howling in fun.    

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The Righteous Gemstones, Ep. 3x02 – But Esau Ran to Meet Him

Lord, never thought I would ever agree with a Prepper (even if for a moment), but when you’re right, you’re right.  Also, this is the first season where the antagonist is actually pretty scary.  The Gemstones can make it hard to root for them, might not be the case here.

At the beginning of the episode, Amber and Jesse have decided that it’s time for Gideon to stop moping around (although, ah, he’s still pretty injured) and have decided that he should take on the role of Eli’s driver. 

Gidon’s first assignment is to drive the family to meet May-May’s sons and check up on them.  They find them at a Prepper colony, lead by Peter.  Peter also happens to be a religious leader (yeah, this will end well).  Anyway, Eli meets with the two boys (who are adult men) and Peter.  Peter then gives a “sermon” to his group about them Gemstones and, God help me, Peter isn’t exactly wrong here.  But he also mentions he used to be part of the Gemstone Church so it’ll be interesting to see where this goes.  Anyway, he casts them out. 

Not long afterwards, the three Gemstones siblings find out that the Ministers of the church, or rather, the ministers who lead branches of the church want to have a sit down with the siblings.  The Ministers are concerned as to where the church is headed.  Afraid, the siblings go to Eli and ask him to speak to the Ministers; which Eli agrees too.

While this is going on, Judy is also deal with issues at home.  Stephen, the guitarist, is in a very toxic and abusive relationship.  And it’s abusive on both sides, he’s verbally abusive to her and vice versa.  And then she hits hit with the glass container of a blender, in front of their children.  And what I do appreciate about this is that…I don’t think we discus enough about how, in some cases, relationships are mutually abusive. That sometimes a person can be both abused and be an abuser. So, I do appreciate the show showing that sometimes it's not so clear cut.

But then, he meets up with Judy and he tell her that he’s willing to fight for her.  Even though she’s married and clearly doesn’t want him to.  He then mentions how he’s willing to, uh, unalive his family for her so….well, I guess he just pulled ahead as the worst spouse (although I have a feeling that the wife might not have a problem offing him).    

Later Judy and BJ go to the movies.  Judy makes a mention about how she and BJ weren’t on the same page and how they were taking a break.  This, naturally, concerns BJ as he doesn’t know where any of this is coming from, but she gaslights him into believing he’s overreacting. 

Meanwhile, at the compound, the Feds attack.  Peter and the two boys manage to get to the safehouse.  However, Peter thinks the boys have betrayed him.  At first, Peter accuses them of telling the Fed.  They, of course, deny this.  However, Peter points out that the Gemstones where able to find out where the boys were because the boys were talking to May-May.  And Peter told the boys that they can’t talk to May-May because she wasn't to be trusted, so they were already disobeying him.  Therefore, he believes, it’s possible they’re lying to him about the Feds.  To get them to talk, he decides to cut part of the ear off one of the followers.  He’s about to cut off part of the second ear, except the larger of the two boys manages to stop Peter.  Peter yells at his followers to grab the boys, but they run away.

We cut to Eli, who’s being driven by Gideon to the meeting with the Ministers.  Eli gets a call from May-May and heads to a motel.  May-May tells Eli about what happened and how she’s already been questioned by Peter’s men.  Furthermore, they followed her to the motel where the boys are hiding out.  Eli calls Gideon and has him meet Eli at the back of the motel.  They’re going to smuggle the boys away.

However, Peter’s men realize what’s happening and try to run them off the road.  Gideon, with the help of Eli, is able to use his stunt driving skills to get Peter’s men to wreck their vehicles and to get away. 

As this is going on, the three Gemstone siblings meet with the Ministers.  It seems like a number of Ministers are ready to walk away from the church.  However, after a bit of swearing, name calling, and a bunch of shoe throwing, I’m guessing that all the Ministers are about to cut ties.