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I like how my side blog is named alexanderjrsweedpen and I'm filling it with breaking bad reblogs
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So I've been thinking about this ever since I got the notification, and I remember (I was pretty high), screaming something in the parking lot of a Farmer's market.
New fic where Mary Morris fingers James A. In a parking lot.
But which establishment? Cause Walmart would be fitting.
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What do you guys think 🤨⁉️
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a quick little doodle of betsey <3
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Apparently Elizabeth wrote the “James is the favorite son” letter while living with Alex Jr.
Ouch...
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I think you've made jokes about the family trying to marry Philip off, were you being serious or was it just a joke? ^^'
Half serious, and half exaggeration. It wasn't actually that consistent of a thing, but it is reappearing in family letters. With all the eggs being put into Philip's basket, you can really imagine Hamilton wasn't the only one who planned out Philip's life and had expectations for him. Once again, these cases aren't that serious, and Philip was rather young when he died so I don't think marriage was the family's highest priority—but I'm certain there was some pressure to find a good woman, especially since how traditions were back then was that the eldest's partner would help run the house and family when parents grew a bit old (Not exactly arranged marriages but something similar).
Anyway, the earliest mention of it is sometime in the March of 1782, when Philip was three/two months old. Hamilton writes to his close friend and fellow aide-de-camp, Richard Kidder Meade, that Eliza was so close with Meade's second wife, Mary Fitzhugh Grymes Randolph, that they should have their kids marry so they could become in-laws;
Imagine my Dear Friend what pleasure it must give Eliza & myself to know that Mrs. Meade interests herself in us, without a personal acquaintance we have been long attached to her. My visit at Mr. Fitzhughs confirmed my partiality. Betsy is so fond of your family that she proposes to form a match between her Boy & your girl provided you will engage to make the latter as amiable as her mother.
Source — Alexander Hamilton to Richard Kidder Meade, [March 1782]
A more common occurrence was Angelica Church and her eagerness to have her daughters married off. She writes to Eliza and tells her to remind Philip - who was twelve during this time - of his “pretty cousin”, Elizabeth Matilda Church—she was only a year younger than Philip;
Adieu my dear Eliza. Embrace all the children and tell Philip that he is not to forget his cousin Eliza, she is very pretty and very good.
Source — Angelica Church to Elizabeth Hamilton, [January 25, 1794]
Again, just nearly a year later, she mentions a son of Eliza's should have Eliza M. or Angelica Church Jr as a wife. It isn't specified which son she is referring to, but it is likely Philip who seems to have regularly corresponded with his cousins on the Church's side of the family, and was relatively close with some members like Philip Church. Additionally, she describes the son as being a “chip off the old block”, meaning someone who is very similar in character to their father or mother, a coined characteristic Angelica had previously given Philip several times before;
My children are acting a play, they have a small theater in the drawing room and there performance is not very bad. Your son they tell me for wit and abilities is a child of the old Block. He shall have Eliza Angelica, for a wife.
Source — Angelica Church to Elizabeth Hamilton, [February 4, 1795]
But there was that time she wanted to have Alexander Jr and Eliza M. suited just five years prior, so this last one is a bit more of a dubious case. [x]
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Do you know anything about Eliza P. Knox and her relationship with Alexander Hamilton Junior?
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After serving as Aide-de-camp to his late father's friend, General Morgan Lewis, until June of 1815, Alexander resumed law practice and “paid his addresses to” Eliza P. Knox. [x] Eliza was the daughter of Thomas (Records sometimes name him William) Knox and Mary Hester “Kortright” Knox. Mary was the sister of Elizabeth Monroe, James Monroe's wife. And Knox was at that time a leading merchant in New York City. Her birthdate and location of birth are both unknown, unsubstantial sources vary between her birth year being around 1796 or 1801.
In 1817, Alexander married Eliza. According to John Pintard, Eliza and Alexander eloped and ran away from the Knoxs' initially, before matters were resolved;
The father wd not consent & a runaway match ensued. A reconciliation took place a year after, when Prest Monroe visited this city, Mrs Knox, deceased, & Mrs M. being sisters.
Barck, Dorothy C., and Pintard, John. Letters from John Pintard to His Daughter, Eliza Noel Pintard Davidson, 1816-1833. United States, New-York Historical Society, 1940.
It is possible Alexander, perhaps with his wife, went and saw his uncle-in-law - James Monroe - on his deathbed. As he writes devastatingly to James Madison, [30 June 1831];
The newspapers having announced the dangerous indisposition of your much respected friend Col James Monroe, I have the melancoly task of informing you that his death is inevitable, and will most probably take place before this reaches you. Mr Monroe retains entire possession of his mental faculties and with perfect firmness and integrity awaits his demise.
“Alexander Hamilton[, Jr.] to James Madison, 30 June 1831,” Founders Online, National Archives, https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/99-02-02-2379. [This is an Early Access document from The Papers of James Madison. It is not an authoritative final version.]
In 1833, Alexander bought from Thomas E. Davis a Federal style townhouse constructed two years prior for his mother and his family in New York City, located at 4 St. Mark's Place in the East Village section of Manhattan, for $15,500. At the same time, Davis purchased The Grange from Elizabeth - age 76 years old - for $25,000. For nine years, from 1833, to 1842, Alexander and his wife Eliza, lived there with his mother, his sister Eliza Hamilton Holly, and her husband Sidney Augustus Holly (Yes, that's three whole Elizas'). The house still survives to this day, and is known as the Hamilton-Holly house.
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In 1835, Eliza and Alexander drove in a coach and four through the West travelling over four thousand miles. It was on this trip, in Illinois, where he met Abraham Lincoln in a grocery store. Lincoln was reportedly; “lying upon the counter in midday telling stories.” [x]
When Eliza Knox died July 21st of 1871, Alexander moved to New Brunswick, New Jersey. Before residing in New York City, where he lived his last few years before dying August 2nd, 1875, at his home, 83 Clinton Place, in Greenwich Village. The couple seemed to have been happily in love, and never had any children.
Hope this helps, and you're welcome!
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Could you elaborate more about the relationship between Hamilton and Madison? Like what was Madison’s reaction to Hamilton’s death etc cause I read a letter from Madison to someone in which he says all this good stuff about hams financial plan etc
Ah, I love the drama between these two! Hamilton met Madison in 1782 when he went to Philadelphia as a delegate to the Continental Congress. They worked together trying (unsuccessfully) to strengthen the central government under the Articles of Confederation. Then in 1786 they teamed up again for the Annapolis Convention, which was the run-up to the Constitutional Convention in 1787. Their friendship reached it’s height in 1788, while they were working on the Federalist. They were constantly together, writing and plotting to get the Constitution ratified. This is the period when Hamilton’s issuing dinner invitations to Madison, people were writing to them as if they were one person, and, according to John Church Hamilton, they once played with a monkey climbing a tree in a neighbor’s yard (aka the Golden Days).
As late as 1789, Hamilton was still reaching out to Madison as a friend for advice as he began his work in the Treasury. On October 12, 1789, Hamilton wrote, “As I lost the opportunity of a personal communication May I ask of your friendship to put to paper and send me your thoughts on such objects as may have occurred to you for an addition to our revenue; and also as to any modifications of the public debt which could be made consistent with good faith the interest of the Public and of its Creditors?” By November 24, 1791, things seem to be taking a turn between them. Hamilton forwarded his Report on Manufactures and said he’d like to call on Madison to discuss it, but added, “It will not be disagreeable to me if after perusal you hand it over to Mr. Jefferson.”
The letter to read if you’d like a lengthy, thorough account of their relationship falling apart is Hamilton’s to Edward Carrington, dated May 26, 1792. After 1789, Hamilton reported, “repeated intimations were given to me that Mr. Madison, from a spirit of rivalship or some other cause had become personally unfriendly to me.” He goes on to detail their fights over the Report on Public Credit, and how Madison made insinuations that Hamilton was mismanaging public funds. “The whole manner of this transaction left no doubt in any ones mind that Mr. Madison was actuated by personal & political animosity.”
Madison and Jefferson were genuinely cruel when speaking about Hamilton at times in the 1790s. One letter in particular has always bothered me. Hamilton contracted Yellow Fever on September 5, 1793. On September 8, 1793, Jefferson reported to Madison, who had already returned to Virginia:
“Hamilton is ill of the fever as is said. He had two physicians out at his house the night before last. His family think him in danger, & he puts himself so by his excessive alarm. He had been miserable several days before from a firm persuasion he should catch it. A man as timid as he is on the water, as timid on horseback, as timid in sickness, would be a phænomenon if the courage of which he has the reputation in military occasions were genuine. His friends, who have not seen him, suspect it is only an autumnal fever he has.”
Jefferson’s cruelty here is awful, but somewhat expected. What’s always gotten to me is that he thought Madison was a sympathetic ear to which to spew this vitriol.
They grew distant in the coming years. The last extant correspondence between them is from May 1801. Hamilton reported an account he’d received that Spain had transfered the Louisiana Territory to France. Madison responded with cool formality on May 26, 1801: “The Cession of Louisiana by Spain to the French Republic, referred to in the letter, had been previously signified to this Department from several sources, as an event believed to have taken place. Supposing you might wish to repossess the letter from Mr. C I herein return it.”
Hamilton’s death in 1804 didn’t prompt any kind of emotional outpouring from Madison. Most of his mentions of Hamilton are very calculating and political. For example, he wrote to Noah Webster on October 12, 1804 to correct certain accounts of the constitutional convention that were arising “on the late occasion which so strongly excited the effusions of party & personal zeal for the fame of Genl. Hamilton.”
However, Madison does seem to have thawed towards Hamilton in his later years. Neither Jefferson or Madison tried to dismantle his financial system, mostly because doing so would have injured the American economy. Even Albert Gallatin, Jefferson’s Treasury Secretary, could find no flaw in Hamilton’s plan. After a thorough investigation of all the documents at Treasury, Gallatin reported to Jefferson that he had found, “the most perfect system ever formed–any change that should be made to it would injure it–Hamilton made no blunders–committed no frauds. He did nothing wrong.” (Or so he later reported to James A. Hamilton). The charter lapsed on the Bank of the United States not so much because Madison wanted to see it ended, but more because no one fought particularly hard to keep it. However, after the War of 1812 and before the end of his presidency, Madison had rechartered the bank. Madison was also instrumental in acquiring Hamilton’s military back-pay for Eliza and the children. This is likely the period where you found Madison speaking positively about Hamilton’s financial plan. His overall tone towards Hamilton became much more civil and respectful.
As an interesting side-note, when Alexander Hamilton, Jr. went to Europe to fight in the Napoleonic Wars, he sent a few letters to Madison reporting intelligence he’d gathered on his travels. (See, for example, Alexander Hamilton to James Madison, June 12, 1811.) In 1831, they exchanged letters again, this time because Alex Hamilton wanted to report James Monroe’s fast failing health to Madison. Madison responded a week after Monroe’s passing: “With my thanks for the kind attention manifested by your letter, I pray you to accept assurances of my friendly esteem, and my good wishes.”
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i feel no guilt for spamming your dash with outsiders stuff and throwing you full force into your eighth grade year because IM being chucked violently to my seventh grade year. i did not choose this life, instead dally creeped into my brain and he is not paying his rent
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Wyd when you bring a guy home to meet your parents and he sees your father and pulls you to a seperate room and tells you that he met up with him for a Grindr meeting like three years before
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New fic where Mary Morris fingers James A. In a parking lot.
But which establishment? Cause Walmart would be fitting.
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My page is anti Thomas Jefferson!! Gtfo!!
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Remember when Mary Morris started eating James Alexander Hamilton's ass in my one fic? I remember.
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The amount of Outsiders content I'm seeing on feed (from a certain mutual) is flinging me violently into my eighth grade year
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I need answers, this is making me spiral
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WHY IN THE FRESH HELL DID I SEE JAMES MONROE X ALEXANDER HAMILTON JR
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