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Mike is disgusting. He had his mom at logans wedding and this random girl there at the same time. It's so weird that people just accept it as normal practice. Lets just be honest, it's prostitution. Consenting parties what have you. You engage in prostitution at your friends wedding in front of your mother. Absolutely disgusting. You're right anon. I hope jeff didn't fall for what mike was trying to get him into. I saw that jeff started following that girl on ig but honestly I think jeffs self-esteem is so low right now, he didn't try anything with her. Just look at what jeff wore to the wedding. Its like he didn't care. From what I've seen every other person at the wedding wear that day, jeff looked so out of place

That's the thing about Mike, since he has been on social media he has always put out there that he uses escorts. Whether it is for his vlog content or for just a one night stand. I remember Mike telling a story about how he paid for 2 prostitutes in Miami for a threesome and then he said he felt gross afterwards. Like buddy! why do you keep doing it and then complaining about feeling disgusting after and complaining that there's no reasonable women out there to date?! But hey, if you want a cheap thrill and to live that lifestyle there's no stopping you however get used to getting a reputation that would put people off you.

Jeff needs to be a little careful if the girl is an actual escort, because his reputation can change and people can get the wrong perception of him. Jeff is close with Mike and the saying goes 'you are the company you keep' & ' Guilty by association' comes to mind. I don't think Jeff would be happy about people thinking he has to pay escorts for female company or casual sex because his reputation has never been that. The picture could be totally innocent, but most people would look at Mike in the picture and know his history with prostitution and escorts and will automatically think the women are 'paid', so the woman sat next to Jeff is also paid. The women in the picture could be escorts or not, but IF that's true and they are escorts it sucks to know that Jeff has got to that point.

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I think jeff is beginning to realize that his youthful look he was able to capitalize on to gain notoriety is fading. You notice jeff hasn't posted any pics of himself with his shirt off in over a year and is very observant when a camera is on him how he wants to look. Wearing the hat, shades. At this point,he just has to own it, lose the hat and shades. He still looks great for his age but I think in his own mind he looks old and that's not the case.

I mean it is in good reason why Jeff is not portraying himself like he used to. He is older...and looks older and has been though a lot with his eye. Every time he has had a surgery the results are not what he expected. Anyone would be insecure and change the way they portray themselves to the outside world because of insecurity. With the last surgery his eye looks completely different, so if he has stopped posting pictures like he used to do I don't blame him. There is also online comments about his physical change which would take it's toll and would stay on your mind adding to a loss of confidence and insecurity. His change in appearance has been an on going thing for over 5 years now and Jeff has not been able to get back to his former self, every time he has tried he has taken 2 steps back. Add on top of this his addiction/relapse this year, Jeffs paranoia about everything is potentially through the roof! I agree Jeff still looks great, there are plenty of people who would also agree. However getting yourself into a position to 'own it' and being genuinely comfortable with your self takes a complex journey on inner work and healing which as we all know Jeff struggles with.

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Please don't let it be mike flying out 2 Instagram models, "escorts", to logans wedding as a mike and jeffs plus 1. Who flys out women you have never met to a wedding for a close friend? Mike really is a strange guy, like you can go a weekend without getting laid, its ok. Hoping jeff had enough common sense to not take it seriously and recognize what her profession really is. I dont see jeff doing anything but just bring friendly

Flying out women just comes with the lifestyle for Mike, I highly doubt he will grow out of it. I'm unsure whether they are escorts or not, but I get it looks that way. Paying for 'company' is far more popular than you would ever think. Influencers and people who have the money do not see it as being weird as it has become so normalized. Men crave this ego boost and validation from their male companions when they fly out these women. And of course the obvious reason they have flown a woman out. I doubt they care if the woman is a complete stranger. Both parties know what's up. It's just transactional and fun for them, they don't expect a relationship at the end of things, it's just a transactional benefit for both. After the Ashley situation with the sugar daddy in Ibiza I feel like Jeff is cautious, he stopped pursuing Ashley after and just kept friends with her. Also I've never known Jeff to be the guy to fly girls out, it's all Mike

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Of course the pic mike posted on IG has Jeff next to some random foreign girl. Mike loves doing that.

Well Jeffs usual plus 1 to events is not there...Kyle lol! It's for sure Mike organizing and inviting the young women along to these events or whenever they go out. But lets all be real, if Mike wasn't around who would Jeff be hanging out with at the wedding. Jeff doesn't really keep in contact with his older friends that he was with before the vlog squad, they are more like acquaintances now. So it's not surprising that Mike is trying to potentially act as wingman and has got some girl to hang out with jeff lol.

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Jeff usually looks his best at weddings but he looks so disheveled in that pic. Like his suit was crumpled up before he wore it. How weird. I didn’t see him or Mike post anything together. I wonder if they had a chance to connect while in Italy.

Ha ha! dishevelled! it would have been so good to see him in a black suit, similar to what he wore to Vinces' wedding. I wonder if anyone else was dressed so casually. Surely on the invite a dress code would have been provided for the guests right?

There have been a few pictures of them together, Mike has posted a main feed post on his Instagram where Jeff is in 1 picture. It did seem like Mike was busy most of the wedding as he officiated the wedding and was trying to promote his burgers afterwards lol! There was a lot of people there but it seems like Mike and Jeff had time to catch up without documenting things for content.

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Ok..I speculated that there may be a little tension between mike and jeff, but this was posted on jeffs strava the morning of logans wedding. I guess they smoothed everything that has been said on podcasts last few weeks. We'll see in the next few days if one or the other show up together in a mike or logan vlog

It's good to see them together. I think I said that I had a feeling they were talking behind the scenes. Just because they are not seen in online content it doesn't always mean they have fallen out with one another. It's been few days after the wedding and there have been a few picture of Jeff and Mike together. I feel like it will take a lot for Jeff and Mike to fall out if they ever did. Sure they have had disagreements but Mike knows how Jeff character is. He knows all that is needed for things to get back to normal is time.

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hate to say it, but jeff’s outfit looks so trashy compared to everyone else at the wedding. the sneakers? the wife beater showing under his blazer? the ugly ass green velvety oversized blazer with a singular button. it’s giving staten island white trash. so ugly

The sneakers!! I know, so awful! but LOL by you saying 'it's giving Staten Island white trash!' He has looked better and actually dressed up for more casual events in LA. I can only guess that it was a last minute thing the suede green suit because Jeff has known about the wedding and had enough time to prepare an actual suit and buy one in time. So i'm confused with his choice in outfit.

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Lol, i don't know if jeff's suit is a goof or he lost his luggage. Usually when he goes to a wedding he does try to stand out but this is a horrible look

He really missed the mark with his outfit. Everyone else in that picture looks smart and dressed for a wedding at Lake Como in Italy. This was NOT an occasion to dress in white adidas sneakers! and the fact that he didn't think to wear at least a shirt is kinda shocking. Each to their own I guess, but wtf was he thinking?

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Jeff made it to Logan’s wedding. Not sure if Kyle also went. Tana was at Brooke’s event in LA so she didn’t go. It made no sense for her to even be invited imo due to her history with Jake.

I remember Tana saying she was invited but couldn't remember if she confirmed that she would attend. The wedding is in Italy, so maybe the travel put her off. But yh I agree, her history with Jake would make things awkward especially since Jake has a fiancé now.

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The whole timing of this reunion just seems off. To me, it looks like jeff has a problem with mike, tana is spending less time in la and jeff seems desperate for a friend. Todd jumped on it because he's really got nothing sustainable going on career wise and they are both going to try to milk this for everything they can.

One thing I noticed, Oscar sat in for kyle, and Oscar name dropped vince. Jeff didn't react to it but I wouldn't be surprised if jeff and Vince open communication. The last time jeff talked about vince was on a fight stream last year and jeff sounded disappointed in it. Jeff said the hubble studio was his idea and jeff told vince dont do business with dobrik and vince said no

With Mike and Tana becoming more and more busy it's kinda unsurprising that there has been a Jeff and Todd reunion. Mike is busy doing his own thing and it looks like he will be travelling and making content with girls like he did before he was with his ex. Tana has apparently bought a condo/house in Hawaii so will be busy. Jeff will not be around many people other than Kyle & Oscar.

I have honestly no clue what Todd is doing these days apart from Only fans. In the latest jeff fm, Todd did say he lives with Zane and is cool with the rest of the vlog squad boys but he failed to mention David or Davids hometown male friends who are always around. It appears to me that both Jeff and Todd are in the same position in life. Most of their friends have entered into the next stage in life and Todd and Jeff are still on social media trying to keep their head above water.

Why did Kyle and Todd fall out again? is that why Oscar sat in for Kyle? I mean just for the sake of healing and being mature I do hope Jeff and Vince make up as friends. Even if it is just being civil with one another in passing instead of being no contact like they are now.

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You mentioning Tana going to the Dobrik’s party reminded me of something. She told Jeff that her friend wanted to go out in LA and the club they went to just happened to be where the Dobrik’s party was at. She’s such a bad liar. She got the big PR package for Dobrik’s and was invited to the party. She went there on purpose. It’s annoying to see Jeff just eat up everything she says and never question her especially when it’s clear something’s off with what she’s saying. Why would anyone believe that out of all of the clubs in LA she just happened to be at the exact one David was having his party at? At the exact date and time? Come on Jeff. Call her out on her lies! But now he lies just as much and idk if he’s even aware of it or if he does it purposefully.

I mean Tana has always been a clout chaser and it's been proven I don't know how many times that she will say one thing and do the exact opposite, as well as lying.... very unconvincingly. Back when she went to the Dobrik party she was calling paparazzi on herself and would do anything to be where is popular. 100% she knew what she was doing and went on purpose despite telling Jeff multiple times and promising him she would cut ties with the vlog squad and David. Initially tana falling out with the vlog squad was a act to get Jeffs validation. I feel like Jeff forgave her a little too quick and let Tana off because it was still early in the friendship and Jeff didn't want conflict, especially with a woman.

There's always been this thing about Tana where she is extremely performative and will do things regardless of her actual view on it just to gain validation. She was friends with James Charles for years and when his allegations came out she publicly distanced herself from him because everyone else was doing it. However she still remained friends with him. She still liked his pics on IG, promoted his products and was even pictured with him numerous times, despite her saying she has unfriended him. She was asked to denounce James on the H3 award show and didn't do it, she just changed the subject and said she was wearing his eyeliner or something. When Jeff filmed with her in Hawaii in the hot tub, he told of how James was inappropriate to him, yet she still was seen with James afterwards. The list of Tanas lies could go on forever, so Tana telling Jeff it was coincidental she just so happened to be at the same party because of her friend is just laughable, just look at her history of lies and that should tell you all that you need

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Around the 49:20 mark in the Todd podcast Jeff asks about the incident with Tana. If I’m remembering correctly she told Jeff that Todd went up to her at the movie premiere and accosted her. I remember she kept saying accosted. She said he yelled at her and made a scene. I never believed her. Todd said that she came up to Todd and Zane trying to take a picture and tried to get in it with them. He put his hand over her face without touching her and I guess that made her mad. I think she was still drinking at that time. It was also a few months into her friendship with Jeff and I guess she lied to try and show some sort of loyalty to him? She shouldn’t be involving herself in his business. I think Tana was a big reason for Jeff’s rift with Todd. The pod was nice and it was nice to see Jeff just have a regular conversation without trying to be some character or try to be funny.

Uhhh! Tana annoys me so much at times and I believe she just makes Jeffs life unnecessarily worse by involving herself in things she isn't meant to. She just can't help herself because of the attention/clout/drama/ego boost/entertainment for her own good. She's one of the biggest 'pick me's' on the internet and has lied through her god awful rotting veneers her whole career.

I'm unsure why Tana lied but this drama with Todd was a few months after Tana had to apologize to Jeff because she went to Dobriks pizza shop opening and took pictures with vlog squad members after saying to Jeff to his face she will not associate with them anymore as she is 'team Jeff'. Tana was taking pictures with the vlog squad at the pizza event and now todd is saying Tana was trying to get in a picture with him and Zane at this premiere.

I'm going to make a separate post with a few videos with context and receipts of what has been said about this movie premiere drama.

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So before jeff filmed this podcast with Todd, jeff went social media dark for 2 weeks. I actually am surprised jeff didn't post anything, I assume he flew back to the jersey shore to be with his family, but he didn't post anything with them. Last year, he announced he was taking a break, but still posted on ig pics of him and his family. This time nothing, not sure if that's good or bad?

It's becoming more and more of a regular thing Jeff going social media dark with no explanation. I mean if he wants a break and doesn't want to post he is entitled to, regardless of how worried his supporters become. Last year he when he announced he took a social media break and posted a few pictures of his family vacation people were calling him out for posting. IDK, you can't please everyone all the time.

But saying that he has filmed 2 podcasts - one with Todd and another with Paige. And other anons have said he filmed a bunch of barbershop episodes whilst he was on a break in New York. I'm unsure of if he is still going through it mental health wise or if he is genuinely busy.

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I think that will be very telling if mike and jeff aren't seen together at logans wedding. Honestly, if it wasn't for mike, I dont think jeff would of been invited in the first place. If there's no ig story from either one of them thought out the weekend with the other in it, that will be the giveaway that there's big friction

Hopefully Mike and Jeff are talking behind the scenes, just because they haven't been seen together it doesn't mean they have fallen out. I admit there are signs there that something may have gone on, but yh, I'm with you that if they aren't seen together at the wedding it's very telling. If there is genuine friction then my god! another friend that Jeff has fallen out with. It's fitting that Todd seems to be back in the picture and Mike is not lol. Jeff can't afford to be loosing friendships right now, if he does he will have no one else left except his crew.

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Could be in the minority, but expect the comments on youtube when the pod with Todd comes out to be extremely negative toward Todd no matter what he says. Obviously the audience knows that dobrik told everyone in the vs to not associate with jeff when he filed the lawsuit 3 years ago. Jeff actually has said in the past he feels sorry for the people that did because David was their livelihood to make money, but jeffs audience sees that once your out of jeffs circle, there's no coming back

The audiences' perception of Todd is always going to be split because there has been years of drama and beef. And it's a fact that he chose David and Natalie to side with, so he should get some heat for that.

But saying that Jeff shared a friendship with Jason and Vardon, out of the all the vlog squad Jeff was closest to them two after Todd… and Jonah. Jason and Vardon also chose David but Jeff has always been in support of them regardless of the fact they chose David. I remember Jeff saying he wants Jason to 'get his bag' and earn money when he was doing embarrassing TikTok lives and when Vardon made an appearance on a live jeff fm episode there was no animosity to Vardon from Jeff. They did the same thing as Todd.

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That’s great if Jeff is actual working on healing and forgiving blah blah blah but don’t be fooled guys. This pod with Todd will also get decent numbers since a lot of people know they’ve been fighting for a while. I can’t help but think that’s all Jeff’s point of doing this is. He needs the views.

If Jeff is consciously making the effort to heal and choosing to do that by making amends with an old friend, I feel like it is a step in the right direction to healing a small part of his mental health, that lets be honest his mental health has been in the gutter for years now.

This friendship with Todd the second time round is still in its early stages and it's too early to tell how this is going to develop. The main thing imo is that both Jeff and Todd have had honest talks with one another and have given each other context and understanding about everything that has gone on. They are both in their mid 30's and can look past holding a beef and acting like immature high school kids. It seems like to me BOTH want a friendship with one another as they have both put in effort to even get to the point of talking and going to golf together.

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Oscar also posted in Discord that Paige Tana’s friend and former assistant was filming a pod yesterday too. I’m guessing they filmed two episodes because Logan’s wedding is coming up? Jeff can do what he wants but I hope we don’t get another vlog with a one night stand again. That was so tacky. He’s said a few times that he’s reached out to the Italian girl but she’s in a serious relationship. If he posts a story with her again it will be so weird.

Can Jeff not even get actual guests anymore? I feel like she has been on before with Tanas other friend. I don't even think that Paige and Jeff are friends like that, but hey, if you are that desperate for content and cant get Tana, get Tanas friend lol!

Do you think Kyle will go with Jeff as his plus one lol! if Jeff is vlogging, he will need Kyle there throughout it all. Tbh, him saying he reached out to the girl seems like a joke. If she has shown she is in a relationship on social media Jeff would know that. It's harsh to say but the girl was just a one night stand, nothing more, running things back for a second time is just embarrassing.