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Jeff said on the last podcast he was going to nyc this past weekend. Interestingly, mike, logan and Todd were in nyc to go a music festival in the hamptons. Didn't see jeff anywhere on their socials. Either jeff didn't go to nyc or wasn't around any of them.

Interestingly, Todd hasn't acknowledged publicly yet that he and jeff have talked. Only that Todd has followed jeff again on ig

I thought he said he was going to New York to look at potential apartments he could move into when he eventually moves. Tbh even if Jeff went to the music festival he would have been miserable anyway and Mike would have had to babysit Jeff because he doesn't socialize like Mike does. It seems Jeff is past the point of going to events like that, he's got enough to think about with the live shows and moving to NY, he wouldn't have gone I reckon. If the event was in the Hamptons you either have to know someone to get invited or would have to pay a lot of money to go.

I don't think the rekindling of their friendship is something to announce on socials. Todd doesn't seem like the type to do that. It will be interesting to see how long the friendship lasts this time.

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jeff posting about being in iran shows exactly what kind of person he is. he’s genuinely one of the most ignorant people i’ve ever seen on social media. how he still has followers is beyond me

Omg when will he ever learn?! Jeff tagging his location as being in Iran is a joke about George Janko I’m assuming because George is Asyrian I believe. People who are asyrian come from the area of Iraq/Iran/Syria. It’s a good thing that Jeff is doing George’s podcast because George gives some sound advice. He is close in age to Jeff and can relate to him.

In terms of Jeff being ignorant about what is going on with Iran and Trump right now… idk, it’s typical Jeff to joke about things he is not meant to especially when the topic is of a sensitive nature. Jeff needs to grow up!

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O what i meant about jeff being sober, was yes jeff has been sober from alcohol for 8 years, which is great, but jeff is only sober from alcohol. Jeff uses and admitted to abusing meds, probably weed and sometimes mushrooms.

Hopefully time away from LA will give him the recharge he needs to be creative again

Ah ok I get you. He did say that alcohol was a big problem for him in his 20’s and it’s good that he has kept his sobriety from it. However it seems as though he picked up taking pills as a replacement (instead of the alcohol) and it got worse since he had the accident as he genuinely needed pain meds. Like he replaced one vice with another. It’s sad that after 5 years his eye is still not better or healed.

I hope so, imo Jeff is far better suited to short form content like the barbershop. Content that is 15minutes long translates his sense of humour better , longer form content like Jeff fm is too much for him, the humour gets lost in translation. The podcast doesn’t allow him to be creative in the way he wants. For the sake of his career and the future longevity of it, I also hope time away from LA will allow him to get his spark back. Jeff desperately needs some creativity and something new in his content. Views are down and I think his audience want to see something fresh and exciting after Jeff has healed himself of course

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So in reality, jeff has been sober from alcohol only for about 8 years. It's sad tbh. I think jeff is moving back in with his parents temporarily just to heal his eye and have his parents keep an eye on him, no pun intended. Hopefully he'll go the barbershop every day just to get back in to a routine and after some time start filming again. I dont think we'll be seeing a jeff fm anytime soon

For only 8 years?? That’s a long time and an achievement imo, I wouldn’t say it’s sad. Everyone’s journey to sobriety is different.

Hopefully the move back to NY encourages some healing in a way Jeff has not experienced before. Changing your environment can be a good thing. Jeff is at a point where he needs to do something new, because to date whatever he has been doing in LA hasn’t given him the progression that he needs to heal.

It really is uncertain the future of Jeffs content. Jeff has a track record of saying one thing but doing the other. I really don’t know how he is going to film things from now on without a studio and his team all being in LA.

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It’s been talked about how Jeff constantly lies on his pod. On the early access of his latest pod he said it’s the last episode in the LA apartment because he’s moving to NY. In one of his recent episodes he said he’s found a place so he’s moving but in this episode he said he doesn’t know what he’s doing because he hasn’t found a place but his lease is up. I don’t get why he lies so much. Why even say he has a new place if he doesn’t?

It’s weird that he said that. You would think that if you are moving across the country you would have planned every detail and not left things till last minute to organize. If he had a place to move into in NY, he would have paid a deposit in a rental apartment. He could have easily of said that if it were true and spoken about the move more, he wouldn’t of said in the recent episode that he doesn’t have a place if nothing has been secured.

It makes you think is there another reason to him moving? Did his apartment complex refuse to renew his existing lease? Is it a financial issue and he needs to downsize? Whatever the real reason is, Jeff needs to get his act together.

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ooof jeff’s eye looks worse and worse the more work he has done on it

Ive just seen the thumbnail of the most recent podcast that has dropped. His eye does look a little bad. It is still healing though so hopefully things will change. As long as the functioning of his eye is better and theres no pain, waiting a few more weeks until things are healed is a decent compromise, until then the appearance of his eye shouldn't matter yet.

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100% agree with the anon about how the tour has been promoted. Missed the boat not promoting the tour on other platforms. Jeff only brought it up one time when he went on trishas podcast. He didn't promote on mikes nightshift channel or when he gave hasan a haircut on his live stream or go on h3 and mention it there. It's almost like jeff wanted to keep in low key because of fear of being in front of a larger audience

Do you think Jeffs heart was in it and wanted to genuinely do the tour? or do you think he just took the opportunity to tour as it was presented to him? If you are passionate about something you try your best and don't stop until things are perfect, you take pride in what you are showcasing. If Jeff did a shitty job in promoting the tour it seems to me he didn't care about it, so wouldn't want to promote it. But saying that, a lot was going on during his tour he had to deal with like the addiction/pill abuse and a surgery. A better plan should have been put in place to promote it which should have been organized months before it started. Jeff has missed the mark in promoting himself and his businesses. He didn't really promote his hair products or his Hims brand deal when it came out which was strange. It may just be him not knowing how to successfully market himself in different ways.

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Anon I agree with some of your points but of course let's not forget, it was jeff who had his skull crushed. It was jeff that has suffered permanent physical, mental, emotional damage that is not repairable. Simply based off that, anyone who ghosted jeff should be ashamed.

Now if what jeff has said about natalie is true about forging documents and making false statements about that jeff, then jeff has every right to say it. It should of been Todd questioning natalie asking why she did that as opposed to asking jeff why is he saying bad things about her online

I agree that anyone who ghosted Jeff should be ashamed, it was a weird situation where people picked sides (team Jeff vs team David) when people shouldn't have even thought about that in the first place, no one had to pick sides but they did. It was almost year and a half after the accident and Jeff was still cool with the vlog squad, Jeff has always said hes cool with everyone except for David and Natalie.

If what Natalie did about forging documents etc is true, then yes Jeff has a right to say it publicly. However the point I was trying to make before was that the reason why Todd stopped talking/didn't reach out to Jeff was because of these comments. I'm not excusing Todd and how he acted but we are talking about Todd… who isn't the brightest lol! a normal person would question their partner if they were accused of something so serious (forging documents etc). But to me Todd seems like a person who would just believe their partners word and not question anything. We don't know if Natalie told a bunch of lies to Todd and made up a different story. If Natalie lied about the documents she could have told Todd a load of lies. Hopefully this is one of the things Todd apologized to Jeff about when the met up.

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So jeff admitted he broke his sobriety this last 6 weeks for abusing pills, but in actuality I think jeff has been abusing pills since last summer. Jeff admitted he had at least 2 seizures last summer because of anxiety of his impending surgery in November, jeff may have suffered another seizure in October because he posted nothing in October but he admitted in his surgery doc that he was abusing meds then. So jeff saying his sobriety was broke recently, it happened much earlier

In my personal opinion I have thought Jeff has been abusing pills for many years and also has lied about how much he smokes weed. I believe he has had a problem for years that he has been able to manage, but the surgery in December that didn't go to plan started his worst prescription pill abuse to date.

From what I know is that when you abuse benzos/pills etc for sometime and stop abruptly and go cold turkey, the chance of you getting a seizure is very high. The body is so used to having the pills and when you stop, it can cause seizures. I'm in no way saying this is what happened but it's a possibility, but I don't know for sure.

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I’m confused by him saying he just recently broke his pill sobriety. He shared on his Patreon back when he was in his Georgie phase that he was abusing pills and cussed his doctor out for refusing to prescribe him more. He’s seemed very messed up on something in the Greece vlogs and in most of his content since Tana and Cody have been around tbh. I was always under the impression when he said he’s sober that meant from alcohol. I never thought pills were a part of that. Do you think he’s lying or trying to be dramatic for sympathy?

Oh wow he said back then he was abusing pills? I never knew he admitted to abusing pills back in 2022 or whenever the Georgie phase was. I just remember in a podcast he said he was pissed about a doctor wanting to stop his prescription because she said he should not have been on the pills for all this time.

I was confused as well and thought the same as you, I always thought when Jeff said he was sober he referred to alcohol. He said He stopped drinking just before he joined the vlog squad iirc. I don't think he is trying to be dramatic for sympathy, I just feel as though Jeff definition of sobriety and what he shares about it changes.

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Not jeff calling out his tour manager on the podcast for not removing live shows that have already taken place off of the tour website lol. Whoever set this tour up, did a really poor job of promoting across socials, having guests in each city for jeff to interview in front of the audience and honestly poor choices for cities that jeff doesn't had a following in, not having a show in Florida was a big mistake.

If jeff ever does something like this again, he should do everything himself, not have to pay a tour manager and do a live show once every 3 to 4 months and bring a co host with him, ie mike or tana

I thought Jeff and Tana shared the same manager and she organised both Jeff and Tanas tours making her jeffs tour manager?? It's the same girl that Verica was allegedly asking about when she made a fake reddit account and post asking who the girl was with a picture lol!! surely Jeff has spoken to his manager to voice his concerns, It's a bad look to have to called her out on the podcast. If the management of Jeffs tour is anything to go by, I'd hate to think how everything else behind the scenes is being dealt with. Must be an absolute mess!

100% agree that the whole organisation and handling of the tour has been a mess. The handling of the cancelled Texas tour dates and not communicating to people who purchased tickets was awful. There was no professionalism about it at all.

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Does anyone think Jeff moving to SoHo is a bad idea? It’s gonna be the same thing as he’s experiencing now except maybe even more isolating because he won’t have Mike or Tana around. Still will be plenty of clout chasing girls, Jeff will just continue to attract the same experiences. I was hoping he’d actually move to SI to be near his parents but it doesn’t seem that s the case.

I also don’t think location is Jeff’s problem, it’s his attitude as we’ve all pointed out time and time again

I don't think it's the worst idea. Changing your environment and the circle you are around brings change which I believe jeff is over due. By him moving to NY he is in a position where he HAS to make it work as he has no other option. Just like when he moved to Miami and then LA in the beginning.

Being in LA and living the LA lifestyle does not serve Jeff anymore, you can tell he is over it. A part of living in LA and being apart of the entertainment/social media world is going out very regularly, networking and keeping up a reputation so you are popular. You only survive in LA if you either have family there and/or are very well networked and have a strong circle of friends to keep you sane. Jeff does not have this. To me he seems over the lifestyle because he has lived it in the past. I feel like he is seeking another chapter as he has gotten older and as he navigates sobriety and healing from the accident.

I agree with you that it could be more isolating however Jeff does have his day 1 friends in NY and can now visit his family more easily. Tbh Jeff would loose his mind even more living in Staten Island, Manhattan is busy and has enough going on to keep Jeff occupied. And yh, Jeffs attitude is the problem, If he changes that then a fair percentage of his problems could be resolved.

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I think tanas comment on impaulsive sums it up.."I have trouble finding respect for everyone who was part of it" now why did jeff reach out to Todd now, why didn't Todd reach out a year ago, 2 years ago or even make it a point to not let david cause a split in he and jeffs friendship in the first place. I understand not holding grudges forever but in this case, jeff shouldn't of been the one to make the call to Todd. Todd ghosted jeff, literally when jeff needed a friend he was nowhere. Cant give a pass on that sorry. Who knows maybe if Todd had reached out a year ago, maybe jeff wouldn't be moving to nyc knowing he's got more friends in la other than mike and tana?

Part of the 12 step program in becoming sober is to reach out to people and to make amends. This is most likely why Jeff contacted Todd after he went to the detox/rehab place. I have said in a previous ask that imo both Jeff and Todds part in reconciling was a timing issue and keeping loyalty to two different women (Natalie & Tana) that held them back from talking to one another. The apologies that needed to be said were not one sided. Both Jeff AND Todd were in the wrong in different ways and needed to apologize to each other for different reasons.

' Why didn't Todd reach out… 2 years ago or even make it a point to not let David cause a split… in the first place'. Since the accident, Jeff remained friends with Todd, Todd never had an issue with Jeff, only up until Jeffs started calling Natalie Ghislane maxell & a bitch etc, Todd had an issue. If someone was calling your partner things like that so publicly on social media and then each time things were said it went semi viral with gossip pages talking about it. You wouldn't want to reach out and apologize or remain friends with that person. Its understandable in a way that Todd ghosted Jeff for a period of time. Natalie was the original Sara (Mikes ex gf) lol. She came between 2 friends who had a good friendship and put a divide in between them. Yes Todd did some wrong too, i'm not giving Todd a pass.

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Was surprised I went to the nyc live show and hearing what jeff went through before hand for 6 weeks on the last podcast with mike I was shocked. Would of never known seeing jeff live that the situation was that bad. Maybe he didn't talk about it at the live show because his parents were there and didn't want to shock them

I know, it was surprising that he admitted he was abusing pills for all that time and publicly admitting it. It’s good that he is being transparent about it and the fact that he said he broke 8 years if sobriety. I mean speaking of a heavy topic like he did in the podcast maybe wasn’t suitable to speak of at the show. People came to see a comedy show and came to have a good time, so I get why it wasn’t spoken about at the live show. Jeffs parents know of some of what he was doing because he hinted at it in the second part of the documentary that was last released. He briefly mentioned addiction when they went to view houses in NY iirc.

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Jeff lacks good male friends because he himself is subpar man. He won’t make any quality friends until he stops being a shitty human🤷🏼‍♀️

Ooop! lol! subpar… that's one way to put it! I'm just hoping that in the very near future there is going to be some healing and realization from Jeff himself that it is HIS behavior that is stopping himself reaching his full potential. I get no one is perfect and people get things wrong, however its recognizing your faults and putting aside your ego and doing better for your self. Jeff has a long way to go in changing so he doesn't come across as a shitty human at times. Imo he is a diamond in the rough that needs a hell of a lot of polishing.

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jeff filmed his convo with todd? that’s incredibly inauthentic and proves how fake jeff is. I don’t think jeff knows how to do anything without a camera anymore. he’s a clout obsessed goblin and if todd becomes friends with him again, he’ll just use it twist to publicly shame david. mark my words

I agree, it's strange that Jeff would want to film that conversation with Todd especially since it's the first time in years that they are being civil with one another and talking. Jeff either wants to use it for content or is trying to protect himself. Remember Jeff filmed himself with David in the car for a Patreon video where David and him talked it over 1 year after the accident. That was a similar thing to what Jeff has done with Todd now. Jeff almost always thinks clout and how to monetize off his life.

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I agree with you that Todd was a genuine friend to Jeff. I think the main reason they stopped being friends outside of Natalie was Tana. I remember her telling the story of her approaching the Vlog Squad and a movie premiere and from the sounds of it getting in Jeff and Todd’s business and creating more drama. Then she said Todd caused a big scene but come on we all know Tana was likely the instigator of that. And Jeff took Tana’s side but she said the event banned Jeff from attending when he wasn’t even there or invited. Jeff’s still as of yesterday sticking up for Tana in Reddit comments. I don’t get why he is so drawn to her when he wanted nothing to do with her before the accident and for a few years after.

It was a weird situation for Jeff and Todd to reconcile a few years ago. Todd was still dating Natalie and Jeff was finding out information about what she did at the hospital and what she was saying to her lawyers as the lawsuit went on. Todds loyalty stayed with Natalie for obvious reasons but also due to David and Natalie being close. Theres no way Todd would have talked to Jeff whilst all that went on. When Todd broke up with Natalie. Todd didn't have loyalty to Natalie and could have started to reconcile with Jeff, however Jeff was up Tanas ass and had loyalty to her so wouldn't have even contemplated a reconciliation with Todd due to Tana and Tanas argument with Todd. Todd was in a position to make amends but the argument with Todd and Tana stopped that. Now enough time has passed and people have moved on and Jeff & Todd are in a position to be friends again. It was a timing issue with making amends between them but also a loyalty issue with two different women that prolonged them from talking things out.