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my advanced delusional skill is that I'm still holding out hope for Joyce-Jonathan heart to heart because the 'you are not alone' moment happened so late in s1 so like the possibility is still there

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The life of a Jonathan Byers stan is honestly a joke at this point.

Every damn season I sit there like, Maybe this is the one. Maybe they’ll finally give my boy the screen time, the arc, the bare minimum respect he deserves.

Only to end up disappointed and looking like a clown

The only good thing about the teaser is that it's focused on the Byers family. They're clearly the main plot.

Only problem? They seem to keep forgetting Jonathan is a Byers too.

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Ace Attorney character solving the mystery: Hold it! The first bus arrives at 7:30am, but these timetables show that 15 years ago they ADDED an earlier bus for students... meaning you had PLENTY of time to watch Mr. Snuggles and Friends before school! You knew exactly what that prop would do, and you used it to KILL THE VICTIM!

Zero Escape character solving the mystery: If you use Decarte's rule of signs and a compass we can convert this set of dates into colors. By the way have you ever heard of the Russian sleep experiment?

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is this anything

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i think this was very boyfriends of them

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Okay, according to the fandom, Jonathan is a useless, stoned guy throughout Season 4, while a certain someone is considered the real hero who single-handedly helped everyone in Hawkins.

But when I watch it again, all I see is that this so-called hero was always helped by Nancy and Robin, who were just as knowledgeable about the Upside Down and everything happening around them. He was never alone—he was accompanied by two very capable people who understood the situation even more than he did. In fact Nancy was actually the leader of that group.

But the so-called useless, stoned Jonathan Byers—who, according to them, did nothing but stay stoned (which he was not)—actually did a lot.

Even if we believe that he was stoned, that makes his actions even more impressive. He still managed to plan their escape, keep Mike and Will safe during the shootout without anyone’s help, and later, rescue El.

Before anyone brings up the agent hero, yes, he helped, but the situation was still extremely dangerous, and anyone could have been hurt. Jonathan had no one from his own group to assist him in that moment. Later, Argyle was there, but he had zero understanding of what was going on and was actually half-stoned most of the time. So, it was mostly on Jonathan to keep Mike and Will safe.

And it didn’t end there—despite supposedly being stoned, he still managed to see through Will’s lies and comfort him.

Yet, he’s still seen as the bad guy just because he doesn’t fit the stereotype of a flashy, show-off hero.

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happy jumpy day, for those who celebrate 🥳

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I genuinely do find many aspects of ST really interesting and compelling enough to turn keep turning them over in my mind (though more the characters and various relationship dynamics than the plot, which is fine but not at all what I'm here for). And I'm intrigued by most of the characters, too. But I think the relationship between Joyce and Jonathan is 100% what's really grabbed me and stuck with me. (And the way Will fits into their dynamic.) I could easily just keep exploring that indefinitely.

It's loving and devoted but tragic and dysfunctional. There's such an uneasiness and tension because Joyce is unequivocally the parent and she knows that absolutely--this is not an immature parent who doesn't understand or accept their role--and yet she's slipped into these patterns that are terrible for both of them and really damaging for Jonathan. There's this pervasive feeling that the center won't hold for much longer--that it can't. And for the most part, she wasn't left with many options, but there's also this element where she's either gotten so used to this that she no longer sees it or can't see the extent of it or whether, at least on some level, she's trying not to think about it. And it's not just that she's overextended, struggling financially, and needs Jonathan to be a secondary caregiver for Will--there are also very real emotional or mental health issues that complicate her ability to maintain that clear separation between who's the caregiver and who's being cared for. And I think that's understandably frustrating for her.

So we've got this kid who's had to take care of himself for a long time and been forced to assume burdens and roles that are not just developmentally inappropriate and unfair, but that also muddy the power dynamic between these two. He really feels a strong need to not only protect her, but to look after her. And while we can't know how long that's been the case, the way he very quickly adapts to her needs (and is so attuned to her) really suggests that he's pretty accustomed to this. So when things are good (or better, at least--not an ongoing crisis), that looks like things running smoothly because she has Jonathan to lean on (Jonathan waking Will, making breakfast, understanding her habits and know where her keys were). When things deteriorate, she pulls away and leaves him to his own devices. She stops communicating and just... leaves him to handle things. And he does.

And part of that is because she's also incredibly independent, and there are both good and bad aspects of (and consequences to) that. But that's what makes her a survivor! She wears her heart on her sleeve, in some ways, and she can even be a little bit volatile, but she's pretty damn tough. And some of those traits that make her a survivor make her a good mom, but some of them hinder her. She doesn't get super hung up on her mistakes and failures, and I think that's ultimately a really good thing--she focuses on the present and what she can do and she trusts her instincts. She powers through. But it's not super conducive to self-reflection.

And Jonathan got so much of this! He is SO much her child. They are such mirrors of one another. In less dysfunctional, strained circumstances, he would still embody so many of her most interesting and impactful traits. They would just manifest slightly differently in each of them.

Anyway, those two just do it for me. I could read/write about them trying to figure it all out over and over.

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Me at the people downplaying and ignoring Jonathan's parentification and love for Will while hyping up Steve as the best mother/father figure.

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i will personally be hitting the duffers with a foam baseball bat if jonathan byers doesn't get to talk about his own problems in s5

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jonathan byers is so first love/late spring coded and I will not explain why.

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Things to remember and other unpopular opinions about Jonathan Byers:

1. He bites his nails when he's anxious.

2. He decides against wearing neckties because he doesn't know how to tie them. Lonnie was never around to teach him.

3. He was probably an accident.

4. He's too empathetic and patient to make objective decisions.

5. He's thought as a freak not in the same way Eddie is. He's calm, quiet and remains outcasted by choice because, like he told Nancy, he dislikes most people. Eddie, on the other hand, is outcasted against his will, but he likes to be surrounded by friends, he takes care of his sheep because he knows what it's like; he's whimsical and loud, while Jonathan prefers to keep a low profile.

6. Remember when Jonathan beat the shit out of Steve? He knows what people say about him and he doesn't care, but the very moment Steve started to mess with his family, that's when Jonathan reacted and beat his ass. What happened with the Nancy graffiti was probably part of it, but let's remember that he wanted to simply take her out of there peacefully until Steve started to poke at his nerves.

7. During the first season, that one scene where Eleven is in the improvised tank trying to locate Barb and Will, as soon as the lights start to blink, everyone looks up at the lights, but Jonathan keeps an eye on Eleven.

8. He had to become 'the man of the house' at a very young age with Lonnie's absence, and he had to parent both Will and Joyce, in a way.

9. Joyce mentioned that Jonathan was always independent and knew how to take care of himself. Eldest siblings, we know what this means, and please tell me that very statement doesn't break your heart.

10. Jonathan had to deal with a lot at the ripe age of sixteen. Not only did he witness the crumbling of his parents marriage, but also take care of his little brother not as a brother but as a father figure, work to help Joyce make ends meet, deal with the guilt of Will's disappearance because the very night he disappeared, he was out at work, deal with a funeral for his little brother and choose a coffin, and then hunt monsters and witness very gory things, and be constantly on edge due to the government keeping an eye on him and his family plus not knowing when the monsters and any other evils of the Upside-down would be back.

11. I'm sorry but Jonathan Byers is what Steve Harrington fans think Steve is.

12. He's very observant.

13. The OG mixtape maker.

14. He's very family-oriented and his priorities are clear.

15. He's always in disadvantage because of his socio-economic situation, so he has to work extra hard to demonstrate that he's worthy. Probably also, in a way, he felt like he had to clean the last name of the Byers while he was in Hawkins.

16. He's very genuine because he had never felt like he had to impress anybody. Quite the contrary, in fact, given that he dislikes most people, the least thing that he wanted was to have people approaching him.

17. Had not Jonathan seen Steve storming off the bathroom, he would probable have had a new friend. Or potentially a girlfriend. A goth girlfriend.

Remember Samantha, at Tina's party? Jonathan made her laugh. He wasn't used to talk to people, nor did he know how to keep a conversation going, but Samantha looked comfortable, probably found his awkwardness endearing, and they could have kept talking, but then Steve came out of the bathroom, visibly upset and Jonathan knew something was up, and went looking for Nancy.

18. Jonathan took Nancy home because it was the safe thing to do, and also because he likes her. But if you'd really understood the character, you'd know Jonathan would have taken Nancy home even if there was nothing between them because he had always taken care of other people. Jonathan takes care of Nancy because he's an older brother, and Steve never learned about taking other people's feelings into account nor to take care of other people because he's an only child, and didn't learn it from anyone else because in his own words, his father is a major a-hole, so he had no good examples on how to be a decent human being since he was a kid.

20. Jonathan probably lied for Steve's sake. The day after Tina's party, Nancy talked to him and asked him if Steve had asked Jonathan to take her home and he said yes. Then proceeded to reassure her that Steve was only being like that because he cared about her.

Steve didn't ask him to take Nancy home because for starters he was NOT OKAY with him taking her home. He was beyond pissed.

You see, Jonathan knows yet denies himself his own feelings for Nancy because he knows he can't have her, but also because he thinks she's happy with Steve, and her feelings are more important to him than acknowledge his own.

20. Jonathan is just quiet, asocial and introverted, and that's a personality too.

I'm tired of people thinking he's bland just because his personality isn't loud like Eddie's or Steve's, quirky like Robin's, or strong like Nancy's. He isn't that physically strong but he's always willing to fight and aid, and the fact that his support goes unnoticed because it's usually silent upsets me to no end.

21. He could probably see an escape to his old life in Hawkins as soon as he got to Lenora Hills because his last name had no reputation.

22. I coud never say his character got ruined by turning into a stoner because, even if though I'm not celebrating his consumption of weed, I don't condemn it. After everything he's gone through, finding a way to forget about it for a moment is the least thing Jonathan deserves. Which is also the reason I don't understand the Argyle hate. He's the first friend Jonathan has made because he sees him for who he is, and Argyle is wise, gives him good advice and he's always ready to lend a hand.

Jonathan Byers is an extremely underrated character and I'm sick of it.

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I'm rewatching Stranger Things and I'm almost through season 1, at the part where El's made contact with Will from the pool and now Joyce and Hopper are going to the lab to get him. The part where Jonathan tries to go along with them, saying he can help, but he's told to stay and take care of the kids.

So I'm thinking about Jonathan being parentified enough for them to leave him in charge of the kids-

But not enough of an adult that they'll actually let him fight the way he wants to.

Something just stuck me about it, what with Hopper saying they might not come back. If they hadn't, then what? Even if the soldiers or the demogorgon hadn't shown up, Jonathan would- what? Sit with Nancy and the kids in the gym, watching the room get lighter as the sun came up? Load everyone into his car and drop them off at their respective homes? Go back to his quiet, empty house, and try to wrap his head around the idea that his family is gone?

Jonathan's old enough for that, but not old enough to go into the Upside Down to find his brother?

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Parentification occurs when youth are forced to assume developmentally inappropriate parent-or adult-like roles and responsibilities. It can lead to feelings of guilt, anxiety, depression, and low self-esteem. 

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One of my favorite stuff in russian dub of Anastasia

Firstly I think I should tell that there are some things that seems strange to me in russian dub. And mostly is a story with short forms of names.

Maybe because of the lypsync but they didn't change it. Vlad was Vlad despite the fact that Vlad never was a short form for Vladimir (most common form is Vova or Volodya).

It's more sipmle to understand these tory with Anastasia – she don't remember who she is and maybe in orphan house they called her Anya because they didn't knew her name.

In russian dub Vladimir and Dimitry both call her Anya... but there is one character who calls her differently.

Rasputin.

In song "In the Dark of the Night" in original lyrics is "Dasvidanya, Anya, your grace, farewell!" but in russian dub he sang "Goodbye (Dasvidanya), Nastya, your hour has come"/"До свиданья, Настя, твой час настал".

He clearly knows that she is not orphan Anya – she is Duchess Anastasia. And that's why he calls her by the most common short form of her real name.

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Jonathan having to talk about college VS. Jonathan talking about Nancy

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Sooo.... LIttle strange thought that came into my mind

If we talk about ST AU-2000s it's interesting to think what characters could listen in this period of time....

So my headcanon is that Will in 2000s is a big t.A.T.u. fan (secretly). He still listening things that Jonathan likes (IMO even in 2000s Jonathan is a big fan of 1970-1980s music as in canon) but t.A.T.u. had a special place in his heart.

I can imagen like in one day he saw their MV for "All the Things She Said " and was shoked in a good way. And bought their album. And watched this MTV Movie Awards performance (and only because of them but told everyone that he wanted to see award).

And every night he listened their album and cried because he can't be honest with person that he loves...

...And every night Jonathan hears that and trying to know how support Will. Because no matter what he loves his little brother

And that was my strange headcanons. See you again