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Life was peaceful when we had that decade free of hunger games movies. I didn’t have to be reminded how much I disliked the movies every 5 minutes.

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maysilee donner

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The Victors of District 12

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maysilee and haymitch’s reaping outfits

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Some tributes and their tokens

rest in peace kids of the quarter quell you would have loved summer camp :(

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reread reared reread 🫶

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The Reluctant Victor, inspired by The Reluctant Bride by Auguste Toulmouche - I just thought that this painting was SO perfect for Katniss and I had to draw it!

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Haymitch Abernathy..my shayla..weeps

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Giles & Joyce in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, S3E6 "Band Candy"

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coming back after 3yrs just as this site is shutting down to post jayviks and name drop my other socials - find me on twt @OmenBairn

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The entire existence of SOTR makes Snow look non-threatening and kind of incompetent in the main trilogy like you mean to tell me that you had an open attempt at an uprising like 20 years ago and you just let everyone involved come back again and again to basically keep planning right under your nose?

I think i renders him a less effective villain in the main trilogy, because in Catching Fire the story we’re giving is that he severely punished Haymitch for exploiting a small loop in the system, it serves to both paint him as overtly cruel and paranoid and it gives us insight into why Haymitch is the way that he is. But by completely switching the narrative in the name of “propaganda” we’re left with frankly an incompetent villain who couldn’t even squash a rebellion when they tried to execute the exact same plan twice.

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Mel and Nora fanart doesn't exist guys istg😕

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the covey being implicitly romani and then not a single romani person cast for the movies...

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I’ve got another hot take about Sunrise on the Reaping.

Lenore Dove is not only a redundant character that strips Haymitch of his own personality and development, but she’s also extremely stupid. Her death is what supposedly drives Haymitch to alcoholism from the way that sotr is written, instead of his memories of the arena, the deaths of his actual family, or being forced to mentor 46 kids to their deaths. His only reason for joining the revolution and trying to take down the capital is because of her, and not his own experiences with the capital and how they’ve drained and broken him, just some promise he never actually made to a dying girl.

Her death itself is what actually makes the least amount of sense and proves that she lacked critical thinking skills. Lenore (presumably since she acts extremely shocked to see Haymitch in the meadow) didn’t know he’d survived or gotten home from the Capital because she spent the entire hunger games in jail, and the peacekeepers probably didn’t let her watch tv. So knowing that the bag of candy she received from Haymitch was at her home, she didn’t even question why there was another random bag of candy on the ground in the forest?

She found the gumdrops before she knew Haymitch was even alive, so there is no was she could assume he’d left them for her when he wasn’t physically there. So why does she not question a random bag in the middle of the woods and instantly picks it up to eat them???

It’s also the worse way Snow could have chosen to kill her. What’s stopping Haymitch from Romeo and Julieting the situation and taking a few gumdrops himself? In fact if we’re to believe that Haymitch is so in love with this girl that he’s obsessed with her 25+ years after her death, you really expect me to believe he wouldn’t kill himself on the spot to be with her?

This entire problem could have been remedied if Snow just had Haymitch’s mom, Sid, and Lenore executed in the town square for as soon as Haymitch gets off the train. Why wouldn’t he send a message to the entire district? Don’t fuck with the games or we will kill your whole family? That’s a missed opportunity to keep everyone in line since everyone saw how Haymitch won the games.

Edit to add: Snow had no way of knowing if Lenore would even find/get the gumdrops. Unless he magically figured out her exact favourite spot in the woods without her being there (again she was locked up for the entire game, even if he was spying on her she’d been in custody), any random person in the district could have picked those gumdrops up and eaten them. We know Burdock goes into the woods, what are the odds that he wouldn’t find them first and eat them?

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you weren't "tricked by the Capitol's propaganda" for believing Haymitch's games went the way they did for so many years. the author just rewrote the story she had presented initially in a very weak attempt to portray an example of propaganda, but she sure as hell wasn't thinking about it when she first wrote about Haymitch's games in Catching Fire.

that was the original story. you weren't tricked by any propaganda for believing it. that's the original story the author wrote. what she's doing now is a retcon. which is okay, happens all the time in other franchises. but the way y'all are making it look like it was intentional, like it was a stroke of brilliance from her part is not it. it's just a retcon. a bad one at that, that undermines a lot of the themes and characters and dynamics from the original trilogy, but a retcon all the same.

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i told myself i was done griping about sotr, but making burdock be haymitch’s best friend and confirmed covey relation just cheapened so much of haymitch and katniss’s relationship from the hunger games. katniss isn’t some random spirited kid from the seam that haymitch sees himself in. she’s not a girl that he takes one look at and, after decades of losing kids says “maybe this one could be a winner.” he doesn’t call her sweetheart to irritate her, knock her down a bit, because he was once a cocky kid who thought he knew the extent of the capitol’s cruelties, and he needs her to listen to him. he doesn’t try harder to be sober because of these two random kids that come into his life, shake it up and remind him what it is to love.

nope. instead the narrative gives him no choice but to love her. how could he not? she wore pigtails like louella, she knows lenore dove’s songs, she’s got burdock’s blood and maysilee’s pin. he feels guilty for how he handled his friendships after the quell, and now he’s given this perfect moment to atone for it. and imagine you’re a parent, you knew haymitch when he was younger, saw him running around with burdock everdeen. he’s been considered the joke of the district, a horrible mentor, and yet, you see him stepping up as a proper mentor for katniss, his childhood best friend’s kid. it honestly makes him seem like he’s just a shitty person who can’t be bothered to see past his own grief for the sake of saving others some, except for when it comes to the people he used to be friends with. and, as if haymitch’s ability to do anything of his own volition wasn’t taken from him in the entirety of this book, suzanne somehow manages to strip him of his choices in the og trilogy too, and he can no longer choose to love katniss of his own accord.