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he's just two apples tall

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do these resonate with any of you

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The vibes we bring to the function :)

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i don’t subscribe to the real ending of rdr2. in my heart, it went like this:

“charles. will you ride with me?”

“always.”

and then they kissed and ran off into the sunset together btw

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Based off that arcane meme (also the charles one is referencing the epilogue but i couldnt find a pic of him in the fighting ring in saint denis so you just get regular epilogue charles 👍)

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I'm bored, my mind is full of thoughts, so here's a timeline I use to base my own headcanons off of, some fun history facts for the 1800s, and some RDR2 fun facts:

TIMELINE OF VDL GANG:

MID 1870s

Hosea and Dutch meet on the road to Chicago

1877

Dutch and Hosea con people in Kettering, Ohio, and escape the jail in March

Arthur is adopted into their group (he would be 14)

1883

The picture of Hosea and Bessie is taken

1885

John joins (he's saved from a hanging, he was 12)

1887

First major bank robbery done by the old guard (Dutch, Hosea, Arthur), they gave the money back to the poor

MID-1890s

Arthur, Javier, and Karen rob a bank in Arizona

1893

Bill joins (he was discharged from the army the year before)

1894

Abigail joins (Uncle brought her into camp, she was 17)

1895

Javier joins (he was stealing chickens and Dutch picked him up)

Jack is born

1898

Charles, Lenny, Micah, Jenny join (unknown order, though it seems Micah and Jenny were around the same time and the latest)

Copper died :(

(^^^^ This is the extent of what we know for sure that's canon as far as dates and when people joined, I use it to form my own headcanons)

Fun facts as far as historical stuff:

The Great Famine in Ireland lasted from 1845-1852

The Civil War in the U.S. ended in 1865 (I've seen this before, so just so everyone knows: Bill was born a year after that)

The Battle of Gettysburg was in 1863 (for anyone who likes that as the battle Dutch's dad died in: Dutch would have been ~8 years old)

Pony Express only existed from 1860-1862

The Gold Rush ended in 1858

Yellowstone National Park existed (it was the first National Park in 1872)

The first rabies vaccine was made in 1885

In 1886 Statue of Liberty was being constructed

The Wounded Knee Massacre happened in 1890 (this marked the "end" of the American Frontier Wars, but the conflicts/wars continued after this into 1924 <- this is what Bill was doing in the military).

X-Rays were identified in 1895

Handwashing was proposed in 1847 as a way to stop the spread of diseases.

1866 was the first documented train robbery!

Charles Darwin's theory of evolution had been written and published (most educated people/scientists were in agreement with this by the 1870s)

THINGS THAT EXISTED: (It is a good idea to look up the cost/look/implementation of these things if you want to use them in a story.)

Typewriters

Sewing machines

Bicycles

Anesthesia and antiseptics

Pasteurization

Telephones

Zippers

Blue jeans

Dishwashers

Soda (Coca-Cola)

Bram Stoker's Dracula (1897)

Jane Eyre (1847), Wuthering Heights (1847), and Agnes Grey (1847)

FUN FACTS FOR THE GANG:

We have no idea when Bessie, Annabelle, and Susan joined the gang (or how they joined for that matter).

We have very vague/little knowledge about how Karen, Charles, Strauss, Uncle, and Swanson came to join the gang.

Most of the men give stories on how they joined or we're told how they joined through other sources (all easy to find on Youtube)

Karen has the least amount of backstory out of the younger girls (Mary-Beth's parents died and she became a pickpocket at some point, Tilly was kidnapped by the Foreman Brothers, Abigail worked in a brothel, Molly came from Ireland and affluence, but we know next to nothing about Karen)

The picture that Pearson has shows: Bill, Arthur, John, Hosea, Pearson, Dutch, Abigail (with baby Jack), and Susan. This is not indicative of who was actually in the gang at that time. Uncle was in the gang then, and he is not pictured.

Molly is from an affluent family, or "claims to be," and she has a camp interaction with Sean where they "argue" about this.

Tilly was 12 when she was kidnapped. The summary for her states that she ran with the Foreman Brothers (she says, "they ran with" her), so we don't know for how long she was kept there. (The age she was when she joined the gang is up for debate, but it likely wasn't 12)

Strauss's sister was sold, he was sent to America, and he was a sickly kid (a "weak heart").

Hosea had siblings!

Uncle was born sometime before 1849.

John's father and Dutch's mother died in the same year (1881)

We only know the canon ages of these characters (in 1899): Hosea (55), Dutch (44), Micah (39), Arthur (36), Bill (33), John (26), Abigail (22), Lenny (19), Jack (4).

Lowkey, the R* timeline is super hard to follow. Some things don't make sense and some things are contradictory. These are the closest things I know to be facts about the gang. If I'm wrong or you know other things that should be on here, feel free to share it in the notes!

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they should give the cowboys youtube

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John: My dreams were shattered years ago.

Jack: How many years ago?

John: ...How old are you?

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In my life I believe there are two perfect characters, just two who are literal perfection and no one would dare say otherwise. These characters are Arthur Morgan and Sunset Shimmer

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Hosea: *hears gunshots and shouting*

Hosea, under his breath: Not my circus, not my monkeys, not my circus, not my monkeys, not my --

Hosea: *realizes it's Arthur and John fighting the law*

Hosea, turning his horse around: My circus, my monkeys! My circus, my monkeys!

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red dead redemption 2.

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I don't read a lot of fanfiction or read a whole lot of headcanons so I don't see a lot of Charles interpreations, but for some time now I have heard some people complain that others are too focused on his native side rather than his African American side, but I think the reason why people do that is because Charles himself does it.

Charles is an active participant in native American traditions and has a far deeper understanding of their culture to that of his African American side. There isn't any doubt that being half African American has likely had some meaning to him, but he doesn't seem to lean as much into it as he does his native side.

Not only did he live several years in a native american tribe, but he also seems to have a preferece to his native american mother rather than his african american father, who was an alcoholic and likely also his only true chance at seeing the african american culture.

Charles never once mentions that culture, but several times talks about the native american culture and its meaning to him. Not only that but the only time Charles even mentions not being fully native american is when he says "my father was a colored man" (his words, not mine) whereas when you go out hunting with Charles in chapter 2 he refers to the tribe as "his people."

I am in no shape, way or form trying to undermine his identity as both an Indigenous and African American man, nor am I saying I think one culture is better than other (or saying Charles thinks so), I am merely trying to point out that he has a closer connection to one culture than another, which is also something I can relate to as a person with parents of different ethnicities, neither of which are maginalised but none the less.

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Arthur: I have the sharpest memory. Name one time I've forgotten something.

Micah: You left me in that jail, like three weeks ago?

Arthur: I did that on purpose, try again.

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I didnt do anything to micah's side of the image he's just so stupid that the image compressed around him booo tomato tomato