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Keeping Up With The Todorokis: Season 3 featuring less flirting and more familial antagonism

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My addition to the current discourse.

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“Hawks/Dabi did everything right.”

[Or: Dabi and Hawks are ideological masterpieces and picking a side explains your kind of moral-justice.]

Let’s take off our fandom-glasses for a moment and look at the gorgeous canon conflict between Dabi and Hawks and “the injustice of morality”.

Now, the goal is to destroy an ‘unjust’ society. Which will inevitably kill many innocent people. Though: Some of the leagues members are genuinely good people (Twice) or just got abused by the system (Dabi) and see no other choice. Dabi sees his action as “justice”, since he longs for revenge against the man/system who did him wrong. [- But this brings him in conflict with his understanding of moral-pain, as he knows the people he kills have family. - To the point where he cried blood.]

His moral ideology is the extreme opposite of Hawks’.

When Hawks joined the league, he acknowledged the problem of “injustice”. He saw the flaws of the system and felt genuine sympathy for Twice. But he is unwilling to risk a single civilian life for changing it.

The bloody fun starts when Hawks is gets confronted with the “Trolley-Problem”.

This is a version of an ethical dilemma from 1967, surrounding the question: Do I stick to the “moral code” by not hurting a criminal or do I choose the “best” outcome, by causing a criminal’s death?

In a survey around 90% of the respondents said: “It’s okay to let one person die, to save the larger number of people.” This is the natural human ideology of “Utilitarism” and also occurs in social animal-species behavior.

BUT If you make it more “personal”, let’s say: You like the person and you have to kill them yourself – And Hawks liked Twice. - Even if it still saves a thousand lives, the reaction is completely different now: Only 10% of the respondents would still do it. Because now it “feels” wrong.

Even if “not killing this person, because you don’t want to feel wrong” would lead to “letting thousand people die, but feeling right”.

Well, Hawks does not feel “heroic” - Even before he killed Twice, he had huge doubts about his own dignity.

[He jokes he doesn’t want to be No. 2. He thinks his back isn’t broad enough. He jokes he isn’t “Top-hero”-material. (ref: ch. 188; ch.185)]

Hawks is one of the most intelligent characters within the MHA Universe, and his way of approaching problems is not influenced by “situational factors” but by “logical weight.”

Hawks took the harder choice and forced himself to suppress his own moral instincts for this. [Remember, he saved Twice’s life risking his own out of pure reflex. Hawks is a selfless hero, to a point where Dabi relied on it:]

[In fact, Hawks is so selfless, that he sacrifices his own “wish to feel like a good person” so save the larger number of people. ]

“Ah. Cool motive, still murder.” Does the end really justify the means?

Let’s say (solely hypothetical) Hawks killed Twice – but Toga copies Twice’ quirk, and over hundred million civilians of Japan die nonetheless. Hawks has now killed a good man, without direct logical weight behind it.

Someone could (or will, because I’m fucking going to) conclude that the righteousness of Hawks action might solely depend on its success. ( – At least till we include numbers in Hawk’s imaginary litigation. Because Twices quirk included “exponential growth of fighting power”, the heroes’ chances of winning would run asymptotic to zero, which would result in the death of over a hundred-million people. Not taking the “risk” of beeing injustice would therefore have been illogical from Hawks’ perspective.)

So was Hawks ‘injustice’?

From Dabis point of view: “Well- Yes of fucking course.”

Because Dabi’s character personifies the exact opposite ideology: “deontological theory”, which focuses not on the product of his acts, but the intrinsic value of the act in and of itself. Dabi approaches problems complete and utterly “selfish”.  - No, this does not mean that he can’t do things for others out of sympathy- It means that he acts bird-free after his own instinctive moral-code and makes his decisions because he feels like they are the right thing to do. - Like a normal human - just a little more extreme. 

[See, Dabi recruited Hawks into the inner circle of the League, without trusting him - because he doesn’t trust the League either. (He said this and acted like this several times.) Just like Hawks, Dabi is a lonely and paranoid man. But other than Hawks, he is driven by the injustice he experienced. He uses on his own pain as fuel to fight for the things he right now sees as “good”.)

- Dabi got exploited and abused by the hero-system? -> He will destroy said hero-system as revenge, to create momentary “justice” for himself.

- Dabi gets the chance to benefit from a hero? -> He will recruit him without much caring for long-term consequences.

- Dabi loses a valuable ally/partner trough a hero? -> He will kill/torture said hero as revenge.  

Dabi is more “justice“ fixated than Hawks.

Dabi would never kill a man he likes for the “greater good”. (He also does not care about the “liberation”-ideology, or anything regarding the “freedom” of regular civilians. Which is shown in his fight against Geten and again in his monologue in chapter 267.) He only cares about the ‘injustice’ of the hero-system. Dabi clings to his “humanity” more than Hawks does and he reacts to his own pain with highly emotion-driven actions. He clearly does not care about the long-term effects his actions have on him- or everyone else. 

[Neither Hawks nor Dabi expect a long life, but both deal with it very differently.]

From Dabi’s point of view, Hawks is injustice, because he killed a good man, right here and now and the consequences – good or bad – do not matter. (“The action in itself was amoral.”)

[It is very interesting to see the reactions within the fandom, paralleling Dabi’s exact ideology to the point where some wanted Dabi to punish Hawks in the name of justice. Dabi’s moral-code is to lesser extents portrayed in many shonen-protagonists (e.g. Gon from HxH) – and sometimes criticized as immature.]

Actually, both sides can be reduced to:

Dabi’s: “Think for yourself and do whatever the hell you recognize as righteous right now.” and Hawks’: “Think for the others and do whatever the hell is necessary to bring the maximum good to society.”

…And I also think thats pretty fucking cool.

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Keep shaking it like a magic 8 ball!!!

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Innocent Todorokis 

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Class 1-A Gals

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The Todoroki family in Ep. 88

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“Don’t just say whatever you want! What are you looking at to come up with that, TV?! Look at that! The flames are still burning, see? You can see that, can’t you? Endeavor’s still alive and fighting! Stop letting something that isn’t there get you down!”

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僕のヒーローアカデミア

麗日お茶子

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BOKU NO HERO ACADEMIA/MY HERO ACADEMIA SEASON FOUR!

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NATSUO AND FUYUMI!

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Rei, Fuyumi & Natsuo Todoroki in episode 88.

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I really wish the story will be like this... it's too unbearable now seeing Tanjirou suffering from being a demon. He fought so hard. It shouldn't ended that way. He MUST survive. As always, fuck Muzan.

Read from left to right. Takes place just after chapter 201. 15 pages in less than a week, I’m quite proud of myself ! Looking forward for chapter 202, I’m afraid of what could happen in it but I can’t wait to read it !

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➵ Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no yaiba

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This week’s manga chapter and anime episode had a bad effect on me

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