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if someone is telling you that you can't be punk for xyz random reason that has nothing to do with you being a cop, fascist, racist, queerphobe, intersexist, ableist, or other oppressor, then what they have to say literally doesn't matter. opposing oppression & fascism are the only requirements. u don't have to listen to punk music. u don't have to go to punk shows. u don't have to dress a certain way.

don't listen to gatekeeping assholes. some punks are just lame as fuck judgmental assholes. be urself. there's no 1 right way to be a punk. anyone who tells u otherwise is the one who isn't acting punk.

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Daily reminder that punk isnt a clothing style its an ideology. As long as your clothing are ethically made and/or diy, if you have the right ideology you are punk.

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Found it! Thank you @syckboi

i listen to a lot of skramz already? Spotify threw Doom and Black Flag into my playlist which I enjoyed. im specifically looking for heavy bands that emphasize the bass. and also love halftime breakdowns maybe. i will look for a starter pack in the meantime

There's a few things to address so I'll try to break it down:

Screamo owes quite a bit to the Emocore bands of the mid-late '80s and early '90s, which is itself an offshoot of hardcore punk. It would start to sound more post-hardcore and more similar to Screamo in the '90s, so maybe check out Moss Icon, Indian Summer, and early Hot Water Music if you haven't already, then work backwards to Dag Nasty, Embrace, and Rites of Spring.

Doom and Black Flag are more straightforward hardcore punk, with Doom being specifically crust punk. Crust tends to have that heavy bass sound you're looking for, so Nausa, Skitsystem, and Confuse for the classics, while modern examples Physique, Black Dog, and uhhhhh Yamcha shoutout @tiredsoundsofagnes. Oh and listen to Discharge.

Halftime breakdowns are more of a beatdown/metalcore staple, but you can also find them in lots of other styles of hardcore too. Youth crew bands like Gorilla Biscuits, Chain of Strength, and Warzone all employ pretty solid halftime breakdowns. Negative Approach had some of the best early breakdowns in hardcore so don't sleep on them. Powerviolence is known to fluctuate between fast-thrashy sections and slower breakdowns but they're a lot more loosey-goosey teehee.

I'll see if I can dig up that starter pack that was posted in the punk sharing space.

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i listen to a lot of skramz already? Spotify threw Doom and Black Flag into my playlist which I enjoyed. im specifically looking for heavy bands that emphasize the bass. and also love halftime breakdowns maybe. i will look for a starter pack in the meantime

There's a few things to address so I'll try to break it down:

Screamo owes quite a bit to the Emocore bands of the mid-late '80s and early '90s, which is itself an offshoot of hardcore punk. It would start to sound more post-hardcore and more similar to Screamo in the '90s, so maybe check out Moss Icon, Indian Summer, and early Hot Water Music if you haven't already, then work backwards to Dag Nasty, Embrace, and Rites of Spring.

Doom and Black Flag are more straightforward hardcore punk, with Doom being specifically crust punk. Crust tends to have that heavy bass sound you're looking for, so Nausa, Skitsystem, and Confuse for the classics, while modern examples Physique, Black Dog, and uhhhhh Yamcha shoutout @tiredsoundsofagnes. Oh and listen to Discharge.

Halftime breakdowns are more of a beatdown/metalcore staple, but you can also find them in lots of other styles of hardcore too. Youth crew bands like Gorilla Biscuits, Chain of Strength, and Warzone all employ pretty solid halftime breakdowns. Negative Approach had some of the best early breakdowns in hardcore so don't sleep on them. Powerviolence is known to fluctuate between fast-thrashy sections and slower breakdowns but they're a lot more loosey-goosey teehee.

I'll see if I can dig up that starter pack that was posted in the punk sharing space.

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can you give some band recommendations ???

That depends on what you already like and what you're looking to explore. There's a pretty good "punk starter pack" floating around the internet somewhere but I'd be happy to zone in on something more adjusted to your tastes

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"Hardcore punk isn’t about being angry, It’s about being honest- Your comfort isn’t my priority."

-Ty

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Punk. Is. Political.

All subtypes of punk are inherently subversive and anti-establishment.

Cyberpunk is entirely directed at large corporations, solarpunk is inherently anticolonialist and anticapitalist, steampunk is another satire of corporate greed, and regular punk is rooted almost ENTIRELY in far-left and anarchist groups!

PUNK IS FUCKING POLITICAL!

PUNK IS INHERENTLY LEFT WING!

If you are a conservative "punk," kindly reconsider your political beliefs

If you think punk is apolitical, just- just shut up lol

the aesthetic is SWEET, but punk is more than an aesthetic lol, dont be fuckin stupid.

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Maybe the local library IS punk....

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Hey, idk who needs to hear this but

AI is not punk.

AI is not goth.

AI is not grunge.

AI is not alternative in any way.

AI art is not alternative in anyway.

It’s theft and a failing capitalist tool that is literally destroying the world and enabling genocide in multiple countries.

If you post AI anything you are not punk, goth, alternative, or cool in anyway - you are a lazy enabler and a capitalist.

Thank you!

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why did ppl decide punk only means things that are good and that i like instead of just treating it as a word for a subculture like why does everything have to be punk for you. well i know why its so they can put this like counterculture and anti establishment flair on every stupid thing they do online instead of going outside n actually doing something to benefit a community. which they would still call punk if they did it

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For some reason riot grrrl is really trendy among baby punkers right now, but nobody attaching themselves to ot really seems to be familiar with what riot grrrl is or the history around it. That being the transphobia commonly flowing through the movement, or the fact that it isn't a genre as much as it was a specific scene in a specific place at a specific time. The funniest expression of this is this nonbinary "riot grrrl band" that I constantly see promoting themselves on the wretched r/punk.

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alan vega started Suicide and called it punk music because he loved public libraries

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is high jump kicking peoples dogs punk

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Burzum or Sleep Token?

if varg wrote an album specifically about killing me and my entire family i’d still prefer that over sleep token

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love that there are so many different ways to be punk. you can be punk by dressing punk. you can be punk by using linux so you don't give microsoft more power. you can be punk by going to protests. you can be punk by refusing to buy new tech. you can be punk by building your own versions of that tech instead. you can be punk by signing petitions. you can be punk by refusing to go on social media. you can be punk by using social media to spread your message. you can be punk by not going to school. you can be punk by going to school only to publicize the textbooks for all. you can be punk by being an artist and drawing about the problems of the world. whatever you enjoy doing, you can find a way to make it so that you're non-comforming and make a difference in the world.

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Is destroy boys a punk band? I think it is, but I would still think Carolyn Carr is punk based on songs of hers I know if it wasn't for everyone saying she's a poser, so I think I have a deeply shitty sense of what punk is and is not.

Destroy Boys seemingly makes punk rock music, so they are a punk band in much the same way that the Sex Pistols are a punk band. I also fucking hate the Sex Pistols and John Lydon, so, yeah.

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"Punk is literally anything socially transgressive or rebellious against oppressive systems" is such a funny take because people have been doing both of those things long before there was a punk subculture.

I think this is part of why these takes are so bad. If you judge punk as this, you get to make it look universally good and like something you should want. So they want to frame their actions as punk in nature.

It's honestly very reductive towards the cultures and concepts it targets as well as towards punk as a movement.

Yes, many people put the cart before the horse and prescribe good/cool things as "punk" because they think punk is good/cool. It's a weird synonym problem and, as you said, very reductive. I think punk is most interesting when understood with the perspective that it has a lot of different, occasionally clashing, ideologies that intersect with the music, rituals, and values therein.