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the ultimate point upon which ineffable husbands communication breaks down is that they each believe they're only lovable in spite of who and what they are rather than because of who and what they are btw
#good omens#ineffable husbands#aziracrow#no one understands my emotions about them#they both think that their unconditional love is obvious but they are both wrong!#bc they fundamentally do not believe that they are worth loving! they just don't see it!#i have more thoughts but im not coherent about them atm
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its just that aziraphale would look anyone dead in the eyes and say that heaven loves him and he'd mean it when he said it. you know. i think about that a lot.
its just reality for him. heaven loves him. and god loves him. and love is just Like That. it always has been.
#good omens#aziraphale#he would be out there like of course they love me. none of us have a choice in the matter.#its the big cult energy its the lifetime of conditioning#its the way that like. heaven also thinks love is just Like That.#like they think theyre doing right by their angels even though theyre terrible its so. idk.#meanwhile for all their many ups and downs and struggles crowley is so fuckin. good to him and for him.#like that they manage to be as genuinely unconditional and healthy loving each other as they can... chefs kiss
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[anthony crowley voice] i'm back
#good omens#aziraphale#idk what to tell you guys i love a bitch with rice paper self esteem whos been mistreated for thousands of years#thats the good stuff... so much nuance in one character#like when he genuinely feels happy he lights UPPPP and it hardly even takes anything most times please#a transformation only outdone by the ninth doctor thank u
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good omens is about duality i think
#good omens#ineffable husbands#aziraphale#anthony j crowley#aziracrow#text post meme#sort of#as ever click for better resolutionn im doing my best out here man
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anyway this is where i'm at at this point i think
#good omens#ineffable wives#aziraphale#nsft text#anyway crowley probably ghostwrote this meme bc he too has impeccable taste
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honestly it's just funny to me when people are like "aziraphale had to be talked into even trying to save the earth blah blah blah" trying to make him out to be a Bad Person. meanwhile in canon it took like, 1.5 conversations and less than a day because he DID want to do it and jumped on the first feasible idea.
and then they conveniently ignore that he spends the rest of season one actively continuing to do everything in his power that he can think of to save the earth, despite every obstacle and despite CROWLEY actively saying they should give up on that and run away together instead
(which all these same people conveniently... never seem to mention or frame as crowley being a Bad Person. the same way they never seem to try to frame him calling aziraphale stupid or his little "i'm leaving forever and when i'm gone i'll never even THINK ABOUT YOU AGAIN" moment as him being a bad person, instead suddenly being much more willing to sympathize and give him the benefit of the doubt. hmm go figure).
like he literally tries to talk to GOD up close and personal to change her mind. he throws down his uniform, refuses the war, and goes AWOL back to earth determined to save it, even knowing that he's pretty much signing up to lose EVERYTHING that he's built on earth for himself, even thinking he possibly lost crowley already by pushing him away, like.
when satan is en route to the airbase, wouldn't you know, crowley is the one who says it's over we're fucked there's nothing we can do and aziraphale is the one who says no, we can't give up now after everything, and gives crowley the push he needs to buy them some time.
i'll never say he's a perfect uwu bean or that he always goes about things the right way but like, this weird thing (especially post s2) where people try to project some different character onto him just never goes over. he's not self-absorbed or callous or power-hungry or stupid or too naive or completely selfish. fundamentally.
also he wouldn't take angel crowley over modern crowley. he loves crowley in every capacity and every form and through every change and tbh like. he understands that those aren't actually two completely separate entities, and crowley is one person who's been through so much and had to change so much, and he loves all of him.
their relationship is not toxic or abusive. they understand each other in ways nobody else ever will. they push each other to be better and appreciate each other for everything that they are, that they have been, that they could be, and they continually choose to come back to each other no matter what fight they have or challenge they face.
every day i gotta get out here like you know you can just like the character crowley better... and relate to him more... without having to twist around to justify it as some moral superiority thing. like that's fine and normal, to just like a character better than a different character and focus on them more.
#good omens#aziraphale#ineffable husbands#long post#im simply tired of the takes i think like no sorry guys crowley doesnt ~deserve better~#no aziraphale doesnt need to suffer to ~deserve him~ and sob and beg and go through hell while crowley slams the door in his face#they broke up like TWICE in s1 after having big arguments and saying hurtful things to each other and crowley still like.#immediately went to try to save aziraphale when he thought he was in danger. they both love each other they both want each other safe#despite their differences in how to approach that and what it means (which will always come to a head a bit tbh)#(bc they are each others biggest priority and not themselves)#if there's anything to forgive about the final 15 crowley has done it already. it's past. he never wants az to suffer.#idk the end iguess
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some days it's just like yeah if the good omens fandom is gonna do one thing, it's watching aziraphale make choices that he clearly feels he has to make, despite whatever he personally wants or what would personally make him happy, because he wants to protect crowley or earth and humanity or whatever
and immediately making him out to be selfish/manipulative/cruel/abusive/too naive/a bigot/etc, solely bc of the fact that crowley is sad in the aftermath...
#good omens#aziraphale#i just think about it sometimes. the double standard of it all.#ill step away from the final 15 in the understanding that there was no most right or most wrong or most hurt#that fundamentally just like in s1 aziraphale CAN'T allow himself to run and crowley CAN'T stay#their trauma informs these things about them and it comes to a head regularly#whether there's multiple other layers to the situation or it's fairly straightforward like. that's the crux of it.#the maggie and nina parallel etc etc#and i straight up block accounts who go in on this stuff esp people who claim aziraphale chose heaven/angel crowley OVER crowley#like nah sorry objectively wrong#it's so....#more than anything aziraphale wants crowley safe.#and he wants forever with crowley; not what they can steal away#and he wants. CROWLEY.#he loves crowley as is he loves every part and piece of crowley throughout ALL of their shared history which INCLUDES angel crowley#he loves every person crowley is or has been or will be#and he doesn't need to do anything to earn crowley's love back or deserve it; he has it already. he deserves it already by being himself#these characters are just doing what they can
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#good omens#ineffable husbands#aziraphale#anthony j crowley#look..... if i put a video game quote on images bc it communicates EXACTLY the right vibe for this scene's subtext.#thats my business#aziracrow
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aziraphale was so excited to show crowley his magic tricks... to get to share that interest w him... ough.. i get so hung up on that about it he was so full of joy and excitement and MOTION he was so HAPPY and goofy.. it's such a rare mode to see from him 🥺
like idk it's one of those things where you don't think about just how many walls a character has up and how much they repress until you see them let the walls down a little bit. i care him
#good omens#aziraphale#ineffable husbands#i just......#he's so repressed and restrained and anxious so much of the time!!!!! even in his gestures!#he curtails so much of himself as a survival mechanism!#he goes to heaven and keeps his hands behind his back he talks to other angels and they belittle his earthly interests do u see#he's so GUARDED#and crowley is the person who gets to see him at his most unguarded and every time he does he proves why he deserves it#he's so gentle and encouraging he wants so bad for aziraphale to see aziraphale the way he sees aziraphale#and like that goes both ways obv. they both think the world of each other but this is abt the dumb little magic tricks
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aziraphale lied to god about the sword bc he didn't want to get in trouble for it AND because if heaven knew he'd given adam and eve the sword they would have taken it back send tweet
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no take colder than any along the lines of "aziraphale needs to learn his lesson about going along with heaven and stand up to them" tbh
like even putting aside the gross shit that implies someone thinks about people stuck in toxic relationship dynamics (whether romantic, platonic, or familial) and the unfortunate cycles that can include, even putting aside the potential that his hand was possibly forced in some way in the final 15, it's so.
like where was your attention when he spent so much of s1 actively trying to stop heaven's plans through every possible avenue even when pursuing that got him threatened, seemingly cost him his friendship, and did temporarily cost him his physical body/earthly home/future??? when he literally stood in heaven and said he refused to take part in any war, went back down to earth, and headed for tadfield? rules lawyered directly to an archangel's face about the great plan vs ineffable plan??????
even when crowley was saying this is a lost cause and we should run away together? when satan was incoming and aziraphale stood there and said firm as anything we can't give up now? aziraphale who lied to save job's children even when he actively thought that doing so would make him Fall???? that aziraphale needs to learn a lesson???
nah
#good omens#aziraphale#ngl sometimes it feels like people just projecting themselves onto crowley and someone who Hurt Them onto aziraphale or st#it gets out of hand#why do we strip this character of his nuance and trauma and actual canon flaws and say he needs to suffer and repent#like. this is what he does this is what they do crowley can't stay and aziraphale can't run it's part of what makes them fascinating#neither of them is fully right! neither of them is fully wrong! it's very complicated and turbulent!
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stands on my "aziraphale does not owe crowley anything in return for things he's done/said/provided/etc in the same way that crowley doesn't owe aziraphale anything for things done/said/provided/etc" box proudly
maybe they feel differently from their character perspective or fear that the other one feels differently, maybe they have their hangups about obligation and their own insecurities but like objectively
they really truly sincerely don't owe each other anything at the end of the day
#good omens#aziraphale#anthony j crowley#ineffable husbands#they choose each other....... all the pretenses are just that. pretenses. to see each other
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i dont care to make an image edit for it so im just pointing at aziraphale and chanting "birds born in a cage think flying is an illness" over and over and over again
#good omens#aziraphale#there u have it your honor we're breaking the character down to his basic components#(quote by alejandro jodorowsky ftr)
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im still thinking about this im so like what is the appeal of making it into the seeming full growth point of the character rather than a step on the road (and i do think there's space for that, there's a difference). why this idea that aziraphale being pushed to cold more traditionally masculine violence is a grand step that he must take. what do we serve if the endpoint is "he becomes what heaven has always told him he needs to be, he reshapes into something that he's never truly fit before". why do people think that he needs to do that and he'll be like, somehow better for doing it.
i've read fics and all where i've felt it's done nicely and with the right kind of nuance, and i think a lot of the selling point on that is simply that it's not treated as the be all end all climax this character's always built to. it's a last resort. it's something he doesn't want. he's soft with a steel core. there's a difference between him throwing his halo down as an absolute last resort to protect a couple of humans/jimbriel and him like... going all incredible hulk mowing down enemies left and right with a flaming sword that definitively has not belonged to him since eden.
like idk for me it wouldn't make his character better! it wouldn't make him somehow more worthy of crowley's love and attention and affection and forgiveness or balance the scales or whatever (he's already worthy of those things, crowley gives him those things freely, he loves crowley just as much as crowley loves him and he DOES contribute to that relationship equally and he HAS saved crowley too, in different ways! it's not needed! that's a separate post i've made before i bet)
im not gonna put it in any fandom tags bc im not looking to harsh anyones vibes but like
kinda don't get why fandom is so super into giving aziraphale back the flaming sword and calling it HIS sword and having him do a lot of traditional combat badassery stuff... tbh
i like a little competent badass aziraphale as a treat i love unsettling eldritch vibe aziraphale putting people off etc etc yeah just. idk treating it like an endpoint of his development feels antithetical of the character that he is and how he chooses to be if that makes sense
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im not gonna put it in any fandom tags bc im not looking to harsh anyones vibes but like
kinda don't get why fandom is so super into giving aziraphale back the flaming sword and calling it HIS sword and having him do a lot of traditional combat badassery stuff... tbh
i like a little competent badass aziraphale as a treat i love unsettling eldritch vibe aziraphale putting people off etc etc yeah just. idk treating it like an endpoint of his development feels antithetical of the character that he is and how he chooses to be if that makes sense
#he gave the sword away twice is the thing...#like it hasnt been HIS sword anymore since eden except on paper due to not telling anyone he GAVE it away?#he goes out of his way to pursue every non violent avenue possible to avert armageddon and staunchly refuses to take part in a war#openly#like idk violence is not something he wants or is secretly waiting to revert back into he really does not want that..#he pulled up to tadfield ready to try to shoot adam only bc there seemed to be ZERO other options and even then he hesitated before trying#(not to erase that he did try lol thats a whole other thing)#anyway yeah idk
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the job flashback makes all the times aziraphale is like "oh so this is YOUR DARK WORK YOU FIEND" 100x funnier ftr
like he's really just doing it so he can hear crowley sound offended and go "NO it's not MY WORK humans just did that shit themselves!!!" huh... amazing
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