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This popped up on my Twitter timeline and I'm screaming, it's literally Jikook. 1. Jm "stabs" jk with his microphone (almost kiss) 2. satellite jeon 3. Jm flying to jk for his bday 4. I'm you, you're me 5. flying to the moon comment 😭gosh I love them so much twitter. com/kingsbrekker/status/1478509699733626884?t=GdvqL09l3VDyT_SYKsmL9Q&s=19

Mannnnn you did NOT have to do them like that 🤣🤣🤣 I'm DYING 🤣🤣🤣

Sighhhh you know I gotta find yall gifs for this

1. Intimate Stabbing lol or just fighting in general yes?

2. Outright Obsession. Why do their TMIs involve each other so often? Lol

3. Confused Pining. Bro, if that isn't all of 2015 and some of 2016, idk what is

4. "No one knows me like you do." Yeah, this is like their whole thing lol

5. Lifelong promises that feel suspiciously like wedding vows. There are a few I could think of I'm sure, but yeah, the moon promise is the perfect example. Lmfao

Anon, you did not have to call them out like this lmfaooo wonderful tweet. Made my day. Thank you 🤣💜

[busanlove9597]

you're one of them, aren't you?

:)

who's "them"? 😭

[busanlove9597]

Hi! You are probably not doing unpopular opinions anymore (hope this blog is not inactive because of the backlash of something) but I wanted to say I enjoyed reading the ones here,even if I disagree with some of them

oh hi there! i'm sorry i haven't checked my inbox in ages, i've been really busy 😭 thank you for your kind words and obviously, it's your right to have a different opinion 😊

i never expected to receive so many asks, it was a bit overwhelming tbh. but i'll try to get to the ones in my inbox when i have the time and if ppl are interested still.

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me at any given time: can we just buckle down and focus on the task at hand please???

my brain:

my brain: ……….ranibow sprimkle……………

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limp-wristed jeongguk with his big ol’ purse for @lesbianslovebts​ (cr.)

[busanlove9597]

oh jk totally had a crush on gdragon, he was just too young to realize it lolol. but yes I agree with everything you said. jk is really obvious and I also clocked him immediately. jm is much harder to read. so who knows what was going on in his head. in general though I lean towards him struggling quite a bit with his sexuality because we know he's had issues with things like body image/gender expression so one could assume he's struggled with his sexual orientation too (I hope this doesn't sound bad, yes I know they're not necessarily correlated). but who knows really

omg i’ve found another jungdragon truther lol is this a thing? i hope it’s not..let’s not make it one. 

jm is very calculated in his actions and he def only shares what he’s comfortable with sharing which makes it so challenging to read him. i’m curious to know when exactly he came to terms with who he is today 

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i think jimin's relationship with his dad clocks a lot on how comfortable he may be expressing himself. i know a lot of people like to say that jimin may have had a complex about masculinity, but it's probably not from the angle people expect. he came from busan, and was expected to be a manly man but i think that seemed to flourish more when he moved to seoul and had to fit into a box. going into contemp + having a loving relationship with his dad, giving gifts and love freely says a whole lot.

interesting! 

remember when jm reprimanded jk and th, asking them “what the heck is men?” i believe this was in 2016, so roughly two years after their debut. jm was already moving away from his previous hyper-masculine stage persona but i’m not sure how much of it was already there before he came to seoul. and by extension, how much of it we can attribute to the fact that he is from busan. i actually saw a lot more of the busan men mentality in jk (authentic or not) for a little while but maybe that’s just my perception.  

i can imagine that jm was struggling with what was expected of him as an idol and what he expected from himself as a person and then finding himself somewhere along the way if that makes sense. growing up in a loving and accepting environment certainly must have had an impact on shaping his personality. i’d say from what we know about their parents both jk and jm are very lucky in that department.

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see this is why i usually don't encourage ppl to send asks bc i can never convey my thoughts properly 😂 i 100% agree with you @kookminsaranghae i couldn't have said it better! thank you

my unpopular opinion: i don't think the rosebowl moment is as big as people make it seem? people take it as if it is the ultimate "proof" of them being more than friends, but tbh i think that jk is so random sometimes and does a lot of questionable stuff like when he kissed jin's leg or when he put hobi's head under his hoodie (which was weird as hell), and he acts as if the most normal thing in the world. I do think it's kinda odd that jm didn't even flinch, but idk, jk is like that sometimes.

you’re right, jk is super random sometimes. and while i wouldn’t put jk kissing jin’s leg and rose bowl in the same category, it’s totally valid if you choose to do so.   

but i agree that it’s certainly not the ultimate proof of them dating, although i find this one very hard to explain if their relationship is strictly platonic. he was not fooling around or trying to be funny at that moment as opposed to the other instances you’ve mentioned but that’s just my opinion. what’s your stance on km’s relationship?

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i’m the rosebowl anon lol, what i think about km is that there’s something going on there, they have this more than friends vibe that’s hard to ignore but i always wonder if maybe i’m misunderstanding. that's why i don’t take skinship that seriously, BUT there are things that i just can’t find a platonic explanation, like jm coming back from his trip for jk bday. that seemed too much for just a close friend imo.

i think we’ve all been there at some point. it doesn’t matter if you do or don’t believe that they’re in a relationship or if you simply don’t want to put a label on it. the whole purpose of doing these unpopular km opinions was to highlight that it’s healthy to have doubts and that it’s perfectly fine to have a different perception of their relationship than others. within the realms of possibility ofc, like, if anyone thinks they aren’t at least close then i’m sorry but that person’s in denial lol

it’s funny that you’d mention jm’s return trip from paris bc i wrote a whole essay on why i personally don’t see it as proof lmao 

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Like the anon said the rose bowl moment isn’t the ultimate proof but it just proved to me that they are very intimate because to me jk doing that was a very intimate thing to do especially to your romantic partner . It’s not legit proof but it’s something to take into consideration when it comes down to if their relationship is just a friendship one or platonic one whether it be romantic or just something very unique , that you won’t find anywhere else between a dongsaeng and a hyung relationship

yep, i agree with you. let’s be real, regardless of their relationship status, whatever they have is pretty much unprecedented anyway. to my knowledge at least.

can i be very honest? if they’re not in an established relationship then i’m 99% sure that they must have slept or still are sleeping together bc i’ve never seen such a level of physical intimacy without sex being involved. 

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im the same long anon , yeah, being an asian n queer equals hell . ive already said it in tumblr before. here in our country, all most all of bisexuals wont even comeout coz if they can be in a 'normal' relationship assigned by society why should they take risk. we have very few gay people who are actually out of closet. sometimes i think our country is more queerphobic than korea. here being queer = joke, sexual immorality , disorder. at the same time we have more transgender people who are living as prostitues or leading life like in hell. sad but a very clear reality here. coming to km,for me,JK is the very clockable unless u r stereotyping him. i think jk didnt knew at first coz i dont think he took his crushes in 14/15 yrs too serious to be sign of homosexuality. most of the things we do at first comes unconsciously like checking out same sex people etc or having those crushes untill we gradually understands ourself better,most of us even date opposite sex people n reaches a stage like jk was in , where u dont think there is any diff b/w dating or not , not feeling love in a relation , too bored to spend time with that person that u r happily saying u didnt met the person u are dating even its been 200 days ,dont understand the hype for opposite sex(grapes are better than girls lmao),everything we can find in 2013-14 jk. otherwise he knew he likes men , dont want to accept for himself, teasing or pushing away "a person" coz that said person is making u feel someway which u dont want to accept or happen,which all maybe due to internalized homophobia. but in anyway major progressions can be seen in jk in 2015-17, not as km but jk as a person. for jm , i really dont know , he's my bias , major part of me thinks he accepted himself but didnt want others to know ??? i couldnt think of many stances where i think jm was struggling to accept his sexuality. i think he was struggling more with his presentation , to be strong man fearing wt 'others' will think about him . anyway im more than happy for them if they r a couple coz considering their profession n country they live in they could find each other , came out many fears n living their trueself . ys in reality their lives wont be fairytale we like to imagine(to those who think they r 24/7 happy with each other) they both had gone threw hell before reaching here . still they are both working towards their " happily ever after " individually , as a couple or professionally . i just wish them all luck n happiness n strength for their future. OMG unpopular opinion became me making wishes. anyway thankyou

welcome back :) 

before i get into the main part of your ask let me just say that it hurts me to hear that this is the reality for so many ppl in our community, including you. it’s kinda absurd how divided our society is when it comes to basic human rights. and while this is so so cruel it’s important to highlight that being (openly) queer isn’t safe for everybody. i hope it will be one day, though, we still have a long way to go towards acceptance. with that being said, stay safe and take care of yourself ❣ 

btw this blog is a safe space for everyone (unless you’re a shitty person, that’s where i draw the line lol). 

anyway, you actually summarized my thoughts better than i could ever communicate so bless you. i think most queer ppl will agree that figuring out and coming to terms with your sexuality or gender identity doesn’t happen overnight and it was super fascinating to experience jk’s journey throughout the years. did anyone else see a bit of themselves in him? :D 

i actually agree with everything you’ve said about jk and jm so there’s nothing else to add. thanks again for stopping by and sharing your thoughts. you’re ofc welcome to come back any time! 

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my unpopular opinion: i don't think the rosebowl moment is as big as people make it seem? people take it as if it is the ultimate "proof" of them being more than friends, but tbh i think that jk is so random sometimes and does a lot of questionable stuff like when he kissed jin's leg or when he put hobi's head under his hoodie (which was weird as hell), and he acts as if the most normal thing in the world. I do think it's kinda odd that jm didn't even flinch, but idk, jk is like that sometimes.

you’re right, jk is super random sometimes. and while i wouldn’t put jk kissing jin’s leg and rose bowl in the same category, it’s totally valid if you choose to do so.   

but i agree that it’s certainly not the ultimate proof of them dating, although i find this one very hard to explain if their relationship is strictly platonic. he was not fooling around or trying to be funny at that moment as opposed to the other instances you’ve mentioned but that’s just my opinion. what’s your stance on km’s relationship?

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Do you think that Tokyo trip in 2017 was jk's romantic move? I'm not talking about gcf, just the trip itself. Bc I agree with you that km didn't have serious relationship before 2017-2018 and I wonder what you think about their decision to travel together

i wish i could give you a precise answer but there are just too many things to consider...if you had asked me this 3 years ago, though, my answer would have been yes. no doubt about it jk was making a move. 

and don’t get me wrong it could have been a romantic move. i mean, jk did seem to have a more “idealized” view of love and relationships when he was younger so it’s possible that this was his way of confessing to jm or taking it further (whatever you wanna call it), but truthfully? i’m not sure. i actually watched an entire 2017 compilation to ensure i wouldn’t miss anything leading up to and following the trip. for some reason i remembered 2017 km to have acted a lot more couply than they did lol but there was a slight yet noticeable change in their interactions after they came back from tokyo. evidently, and we know this bc to this day they talk about it, this trip meant a lot to them but i just don’t think they were committed at the time. this may sound like a bold statement when we factor in gcf in tokyo but i will get to that in a bit.

looking at it with unbiased eyes there’s nothing inherently romantic about traveling together. i’ve traveled with friends, lovers, family and even strangers so we can’t rule out that they both just wanted to go to tokyo and jk took care of everything. now, how probable is this scenario? his intentions obviously would have greatly depended on the nature of their relationship at the time. i keep repeating that they weren’t serious back then and i genuinely think that but i could be wrong. 

because, of course, there is gcf in tokyo. if they weren’t committed then what’s the meaning of it? i can’t view it as jk’s way of confessing to jm or even announcing their relationship to the world without jm knowing. this assumes that jm was truthful about not knowing that jk would make such a video (that’s another story). i digress, i could go on and on but i will stop myself right here.

so, yea, tokyo trip could have been a romantic getaway that solidified things for them or a casual getaway or something else entirely. i’m sorry if you expected something more definitive but maybe you’d like to add your thoughts 😊

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Hello. I agree with your unpopular opinion (?) that jk came to terms with his sexuality way earlier than jm (remember "wow thighs"? boy knew what he wanted since the start lolol ok maybe not that early but you know what I mean). I think jm had a hard term accepting himself. i never took his early heavy "flirting" with jk as a sign of him being sure of his sexuality. All assumptions of course, we can't know for sure.

a while ago i jokingly said on twt that i suspected jk probably used to have a major crush on gdragon back then but hadn’t come to terms with it yet lol 

jm is such an enigma to me tbh, i find it very difficult to make assumptions about him. on the one hand he seems so in tune with himself but on the other hand i also think that he may have had a hard time accepting himself. i honestly go back and forth. jk is an entirely different story, he’s very easy to read imo. he’s also more “clockable” than jm, at least to me personally which i guess is a more unpopular opinion among kmers too since he is buff and loves to work out which to many ppl = straight 

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in case of unpopular opinion , 1) i dont know how unpopular this is but , i very recently saw one of the big km blogger mentioning the same theory . its about km rings.ys they maybe matching rings but members have lots of matching rings.to say they r promise rings / even engagment rings bought from tokyo etc etc are bullshit. the only fact we know is km does have some pairs of matching rings , even recently they are wearing matching rings for some events but that's it. 2) this is MY opinion, if someone cant accept a reality that there is a chance km may not be real or someone who does believe km is in a relationship but want them to act always like in romantic movies n if not going around crying km broke up can just stop "shipping km " now. its the best for your mental health . coz these r real people possibly in a real relationship they have good days n bad days, their fightings can remain for many days too, they r professional af , just because they r not screaming n fighting on cam doesnt means it doesnt exist , it does n they maintain their distances at those times , from my observation . N in those times u dont need to go to every km blog for reassurance , they also dont know anything more than u . also dont need to go n talk dirty about jk or jm when u think they r fighting , its their relatonship, they still love each other more than they love you even during the times of fights .

3) this is the opinion of a part of jikookers, but i also think km got evolved as "couple" by end of 2017. i know a major part of jikookers believe it happend in 2015. but from my observation n life as a queer person in a homophobic country , u just wont start a relationship or sail smoothly from the begining. u r going against a norm taught to you by society,u wont jump directly to confess even if ur crush for that person is shooting high , u will be confused af for ur sexuality or that person's sexuality, internalized homophobia may still be having its own influence on you that u cant complety accept urself or confess to the person . in some cases even if u will love n take care of that person n u maybe somewhat physically involved still u wont be able to define the relationship especially if its same sex relations in a country i live in. NO its not because ur r with that person to calmdown ur hormones but the hurdles u need to jump which r build inside u n by the society takes time. IT WILL TAKE TIME to be in a commited same sex relationship even if u love someone damn too much. N i think they reached there by end of 2017 or 2018. imo 2015 was the yr JK began to 'accept' this part of himself n start to make moves ( i believe it was jk to make a move first than wt youtube compilations shows us - the bold n flirty jm ??? ) n by end of 2015 both of them knew they like each other. for me 2016 -17 was yr of testing waters, getting to know both mentally or physcially , there were some insecurities or jealousy involved. yet i cant get vibes of a commited relationship there. ofcourse my opinion only , diff jikookers may have diff timelines according to how we see n percieve things. they had fair share of big n small ups n downs throught the yrs .they evolved n matured n we have today's jikook now.

hey, thank you so much!! 

i hope it’s okay to say a few things in response? 

re 1) rings: exactly, going as far as saying that they’re promise or engagement rings is a little...far fetched imo. i have wondered where this narrative is coming from? back then i went through bvlgari’s products to see if i can find those specific rings but i couldn’t. so either they were custom made, from an older collection or from (a) different brand(s). i know there’s this one picture that ppl love to recycle but i very clearly remember this was from a russian (?) website that wasn’t associated with bvlgari at all. and wasn’t there another pic of km shopping at gucci in the airport in japan that had sparked the bvlgari rumors in the first place? anyway. like you said, some members have matching rings/jewelry. it doesn’t mean they’re in a relationship lol 

re 2) “if someone cant accept a reality that there is a chance km may not be real or someone who does believe km is in a relationship but want them to act always like in romantic movies n if not going around crying km broke up can just stop "shipping km " now. its the best for your mental health“ THIS. i’d like to add that if your mood depends on km interactions or the lack thereof, it’s time to distance yourself. also, it’s very normal that couples don’t act couply all the time and most certainly not in professional settings aka at work which is virtually most of the time we see them... 

re 3) i think the end of 2017/2018 sounds reasonable, although i sometimes think that considering how difficult 2018 was for them, that perhaps they didn’t make it official until 2019 or. but that doesn’t align with some of the things that happened in 2018 so like...i have yet to make up my mind. 

it’s interesting that you think jk made the first move. it’s entirely possible tbh. i actually think that he came to terms with his sexuality way before jm did but perhaps that’s more headcanon than reality. 

depending on where you live being in a same-sex relationship can be someone’s death sentence and i don’t think enough ppl are aware of it. being queer on the internet is fun and games but being queer irl is different story. i grew up in a progressive country, i can’t possibly imagine what it’s like to be queer in a society that’s not as accepting as mine (despite that i’m not out to my entire family) but i am deeply sorry if that’s your reality. my childhood best friend is serbian and for as long as he was living with his parents he basically lived a double life. it took him living abroad to finally accept his homosexuality. i often read that if km are dating, they’re so lucky to have fallen in love with each other. are they though? being who they are there’s so much at stake for them and i just can’t see it as this fairytale love story that some like to label it. i realize this pov might be a bit more controversial so don’t come at me lol 

pls feel free to share more thoughts! 

[busanlove9597]

I'd love to have a discussion about so-called unpopular opinions on KM. I keep seeing anons being dismissed on "popular blogs" (I guess they're popular I'm not really spending much time on here anymore) and I'm not a huge fan of this mentality.

If anyone would like to share their "unpopular opinions" I hereby welcome you to do so. It feels silly doing this but I can't stand ppl who don't accept someone else's opinion just bc it's different from their own. Stop acting like you have the facts when we're all simply speculating. Did JK tell you that certain tattoos are intended to represent JM? Did he personally tell you that their Tokyo trip was a birthday present for JM? You can't possibly know any of that so why are you treating it as the truth? I'm very much a fan of speculating, it's fun and it doesn't harm anyone. But as soon as you start to label these things as facts with no room for doubt, it's becoming a problem. Do I believe KM are romantically involved? Yes. But do I run around claiming KM are in fact dating and there's no way I'm wrong? No, bc what do I know? I have no proof of that. So what's up with you guys telling others off for having different opinions? I don't get it.

Might delete parts of this later but this has been bothering me for a while.

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Teasing and roguhhousing with your partner can be healthy and fun. What do these very young people (not all, sorry if it sounds like generalizing) expect a long term relationship to look like?

Also, by implying that Jimin is being hurt or whatever by Jungkook, you anons are feminizing him. That isn't a bad thing per se. But please keep this in mind and question your own perception. Jimin is an accomplished martial artist and not a battered woman. As a domestic abuse survivor myself I find all of this rhetoric horribly misguided and am embarrassed for some of you.

I agree with you anon except for one part. I don't think this is about feminising Jimin. The rates of domestic violence and physical abuse in general is higher against women, unfortunately that is true, but a man can also be a victim of it, men are also victims of domestic violence and/or physical abuse. The rates are lower, yes, but it also happens. In addition, unfortunately many men do not report their aggressors for various reasons.

In this particular case, as I have said before, by saying or implying that Jungkook physically abused Jimin, they are insulting Jimin as well. And it is definitely a horrible rhetoric, and offensive to those of us who have suffered from domestic violence and/or physical abuse. And it bothers me that they don't understand that.