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So this just happened to a friend of the blog. My friend retweeted one of Inna’s tweets stating “what a dumb post” and was promptly blocked from Inna’s twitter.
Let’s break this down. First, both Inna and Juliet need to get a real job. Obviously they have nothing else to do with their time but troll social media to see who is talking about them. If you want to be famous, and insist upon being in the spotlight, then you have to be willing to take the bad with the good.That’s just the way fame works. Can’t handle the criticism, then go get a real job. And grow up while you’re at it. You are not teenagers any more. Getting into internet fights with other teenagers was fine - when you were one. Now that you are both grown and married, it’s really, really unattractive.
Second, does anyone else see the irony if the name used on Inna’s banner? Inna Corn? Is she trying that hard to be like Momma Corns? And does she realize people did not give Juju that nickname out of love and devotion?
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Um, yeah they for real got married back in 2011. I have the marriage license to prove it.
Just going to leave this here for anyone who still believes Juliet is a good person: https://www.instagram.com/p/BkD1-wPDkGi/ Those screen caps are old, but it still shows you what kind of person Juliet truly is. She would have been over the age of 21 when she made all those comments and should have known better, especially her using the “r” slur when trashing Kesha.  PS, pay attention to picture #5: “Andy and I are committed for life”. Even more proof that she and Andy did, indeed, get married in Vegas back in 2011?. 
Submission: She’s so shitty 
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I think far too many girls read 50 Shades of Shit and thought BDSM was going to be all about private jets, champagne, and mind-blowing sex. Getting out of a hard core BDSM relationship is about as easy as quitting prostitution - no is rarely a viable answer to the one holding the whip.
I almost always believe folks who come out about abusers, and I do believe William Control made some bad decisions, but something about this whole thing seems really off to me somehow. I don't trust Wil but I'm not 100% ready to condemn him either. This situation feels to me like people consented to something they didn't understand and while William should've been more cognizant of that, technically they did consent. The underage girl's a whole other story tho, Idk what to think about that part
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Scientology & Then Some
A friend of mine came across this old article about Cat White & scientology, aptly titled “Meet the Young Hollywood Types who Introduced Cathriona White to Scientology.” This is some scary shit right here. And now, for whatever reason, the dumbasses at the local cable and satellite providers have decided carrying a TV station all about that fucked up cult was a good idea. WTF is wrong with people?!
Anyway, here’s a link to the article. It’s lengthy but still an interesting read.
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bvbdiscussions-blog · 6 years
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All of this. Beautifully put.
Though it has been said time and time again I’d just really like to reiterate it. It’s something that seriously can’t be stressed enough how truly, incredibly concerning it is that there are still people out there who are able to easily and completely excuse or disregard the clearly toxic tendencies shown by Ms. Simms in the past- especially the plane incident. Yes, while it did happen way back in late 2016, that doesn’t matter- abuse is still abuse and its timestamp is irrelevant to its validity.
Whenever this example in particular of her highly questionable ways is brought back to light, there’s always that one fan– or rather, group of fans– that’ll brush it off via any excuses they can think of off the top of their head(s), “But that happened so long ago! It’s time we forgive and forget!”, “You guys are seriously still on that? Move on from it already! They both did and they’re much happier!!”, “But she was drunk! And he’s a very well built man! He handled it no problem!”, “But she lost a baby! It was a bad time for her! That means it’s okay!”. I’m sorry to inform, but alcohol and/or personal losses do NOT excuse putting your hands on your partner in a way you KNOW would hurt them. You should still be held accountable for your actions (on top of that, there’s still no definitive way to know if she was really even pregnant to begin with or if she was just trying to garner sympathy). Also, Mr. Biersack has almost always been a relatively lanky man; in other words, he’s not a big pile of beefcake muscle. But even if he were ‘ripped like the bros down at the community gym’, that doesn’t mean there wouldn’t be any psychological aftermath for him to deal with.
For that one incident alone, Ms. Simms had:
-accused her husband of breaking her ribs
-smacked/punched him multiple times
-stated arrogantly that she was being treated the way she was because she was ‘the only celebrity on the flight’ and then bragged about having a large following to try and back it up
-made various other negative (to say the very least) comments while on the plane
-needed to be separated from Mr. Biersack and seated next to a retired air marshal
-needed to be handcuffed
-beat herself in the face with the aforementioned pair of (metal rod) handcuffs in an attempt to make it seem like her husband had hurt her first
-ultimately needed to be detained by the FBI.
After the incident had been exposed to the public, Ms. Simms had also:
-made an 'apology’ post with her husband afterwards, the majority of which was really the both of them trying to shift the blame towards alcohol, her saying she cannot handle the substance, and him seemingly apologizing to the fans for having heard what had happened
-soon turned back around and claimed that she could never be capable of such things physically or mentally
-tried to use Mr. Biersack’s size as reasoning for her lack of capability
-also tried to invalidate a bystander’s testimony on the basis of the person having a career as an adult actress, then accused them of merely looking for attention
-attempted to minimize the severity of the situation herself before brushing it under the rug altogether and acting as though nothing even happened
-claimed earlier on this year that she was nearing two years sober almost nine months before the plane incident (then soon deleted that comment)
-deleted her original post earlier on this year too (Mr. Biersack deleted his post as well).
If all that alone isn’t enough to suspect something’s up– especially if you’ve seen the video and zeroed in on his reaction towards being in that situation– I sincerely don’t know what to tell you. But no matter the time and no matter the people involved, abuse should not be taken lightly under any circumstance. I’m sure a lot of us are very much aware that if the roles were reversed his reputation would be tarnished beyond repair and almost everybody would stop supporting him as soon as word got out.
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Then there’s also other various reasons as to why people dislike, despise, or are simply annoyed by Ms. Simms. The most infamous reasons being reported past infidelity, her and her family’s tight involvement with a highly dangerous, manipulative cult (and by very high chance by now, Mr. Biersack’s involvement), the constant doting statements of her relationship- paired with frequent lovey-dovey posts on her and her husband’s social medias. In addition to that, major over hype for age old projects that often fall behind expectations, the NTIO jewelry line in itself, the items she lists off on her depop and the prices that go with them (not to mention that bodily fluid situation, yikes), her frequent need to use her husband for positive relevancy and/or promotion, and how she and Mr. Biersack often seem unable to keep their stories straight, to name a few.
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Before I move on to the last section, I’d like to briefly reiterate as well that no, liking particular people involved with a band or their personal lives/supporting everything they do is NOT a requirement for being considered a 'true’ fan, a 'good’ fan, or a fan at all. You are allowed to have your heart set on their content whilst also expressing disapproval of occasionally nonsensical or shoddy actions. Both. Both? Both. Both is good.
Note: please don’t go tossing around threats/wishing irrationally vile things on anyone, though. That’s just… unnecessary.
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-To A, if he happens to 'stumble’ upon your blog again and decides to read this-
It’s official that the two of you occasionally (at least) creep about Ms. Stogner’s blog to see what people have to say about you. I’m certain that at one point or another you’ve both been one to preach about not letting 'haters’– often, people calling you out when it’s due– drag you down and that you choose not to focus on 'those types’ of people, yet that’s exactly what you’ve done before. “Oh, I don’t care about that! It’s not even worth my time! My amazing wife and I are not bothered at all by what these guys are talking about! Pshh, no way. My incredibly talented wife and I ONLY have time for the positives!!!” you exclaim as both you and your wife sign in to your phones and immediately start scrolling through everything that’s recently been said about you here.
While I can understand that it can be frustrating when misinformation is circulating about you or someone close to you, you’re an adult. You have been considered a role model to thousands, if not millions of people for years. When you’re in the limelight, something you’re expected to do is act and handle the topics you choose to address with maturity in an effort to set a good example for your fans- specifically, your younger audience.
No, people are not pointing out what’s wrong with your relationship in efforts to spite you. No, people are not doing it because they’re jealous and feel as though if they can’t have something, they don’t want you or your wife having it, either. People are doing it because when you’re in the public eye, everything you allow people to see is going to be talked about at some point or another. Even if it’s by the means of it falling through the cracks somehow and a leak surfacing later on (sometimes shit’s just out of your control; not much can be done about that). If your audience notices that something’s off, there’s an even better chance of it being brought up quickly and left open for discussion until everything that needs to be said has been said.
Furthermore, these people were pointing out– and are continuing to point out– red flags they notice because they’re still concerned for your well-being. It may not seem like it to you, but it’s true. You were hurt. That much was clear. And even if it’s not something you’d care to admit, it’s obvious. What was said and done broke the hearts of a lot of your fans and made them fear for your safety for a long time afterwards. And you know what? A lot of them still do. They care about you and they don’t want any pain you’ve undergone to be continuously brushed under the rug just so you can keep perpetuating the idea of a falsely immaculate fairy tail marriage.
It is not your 'duty’ to ensure everyone knows just how much you love your wife; your 'duty’ should be ensuring your safety and your sincere happiness. And your fans are not sociopaths– hope you’ve brushed up on your definitions since last time, by the way– for expressing their concern for you and their disapproval of Ms. Simm’s actions against you and the fans.
Of course, you are quite evidently no saint yourself, Mr. Biersack, but by no means does that deem you deserving of being abused.
Submission: Thank you for such a thought submission. 
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Wait, wait. I just remembered that prevalent religion full of people who believe the earth flooded, is only a few thousand years old, that the dinosaurs never existed, and that there's nothing in our solar system but our lonely little planet. But hey, at least they never promoted the bible as a great fictional story before going "psych! All this is actually real, now give me money to teach you about it."
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I legit do not understand how any rational human can join a "religion" that is literally teaching from books that were being marketed and sold as science FICTION. How delusional do you have to be actually think that's a good idea?!
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I totally called that shit from the start.
Does anyone remember that weird honeymoon phase everyone had when Inna first showed up? People screaming "Inna so pureeee
We weren’t even in the same fucking country. 
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Does anyone else think it’s weird Andy starred in a movie about the lead singer of a rock band who sold his soul to the devil in exchange for money & fame - all while being married to a woman whose entire family is heavily into a made-up religion based off of the crazy rantings of a failed sci-fi writer who promise their members money & fame?
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Seriously though if juju wanted to make some cold hard cash all she needs to do is invest in a Clone-a-Willy kit and mass produce a replica of Andy's junk to sell to all the horny 13 yos who can pretend they are the daughter from that scene in American Satan. I probably shouldn't give her any ideas. Between that and a sex tape she'd be all set :/
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Why does everyone involved in BVB just come off as immature, egotistical assholes who can't seem to handle their jobs? Seriously, can none of them get their shit together?
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This ^^^^
ANONYMOUS SUBMISSION
“Unless it’s a verified profile with a blue check mark, myself and the other dudes in my band are not talking to anyone. We don’t give our phone numbers out, and we don’t talk to fans secretly or anonymously. That’s the whole reason we have verified profiles so people can’t impersonate us. Anyone claiming to be us, and it’s from a phone, or a profile that’s not with a blue verification badge, IT IS NOT REAL!! Stop being so naive and gullible believing every damn thing. If someone says they know us and talk to us on the phone it’s 100% not true. If it comes from a verified source meaning a verified profile then and only then is it legit.  Thanks…PS, use some common sense.”
Oh Jake. So close. That was almost a professional, yet firm message to fans. Until you insulted them and scolded them. Do you know the age demographic for your band at all? Your band’s age demographic is roughly 13 to early 20’s. According to Ofcom, a fifth of children aged 12-15 will believe things they find online with unquestioning faith. They’re often unable to tell what is a legit piece of research or factual information and what’s a scam, lie or something created for money or personal gains when compared with reliable sources. This means a lot of teens are quite naive when it comes to the online world and when it comes to taking things at face value. Ofcom made a report in 2015 called ’ Children and parents: Media and Attitudes’ and in it, reported that children between 8-15 believe information on social media websites like Twitter, Facebook and YouTube is ‘all true’. Ofcom’s findings challenge widespread assumptions that the generations who have grown up with the internet – so-called ‘digital natives’ – are automatically savvier about the online world.
The prefrontal cortex is associated with judgment, decision making, and mental flexibility—or with the ability to change plans when faced with an obstacle is undergoing a lot of changes in a teenager, it’s developing as they grow and as such, the teenage brain is much more vulnerable and it means they can be more naive and easily taken advantage of.
There is direct evidence to show that teenagers can be naive when it comes to things online. You don’t need to be a scientist to know this or have a general understanding that teenagers are quite gullible. It’s ‘common sense’. The thing Jake is telling teenagers to have when it comes to online gossip coming from non verified sources. So is it any wonder when teenagers take gossip at face value? Add in that many teens like drama and gossip.
Secondly, Inna threatening lawyers. The First Amendment allows for a lot of free speech, and secondly, unless Inna can prove that the gossip online has directly affected her career in a negative way and it’s directly hindered her on a personal level, she’s got no case to sue a bunch of young people online gossiping. The law only protects your reputation. It does not protect you from personal insults or from hurt feelings. So, if a person publicly calls you an asshole or immature, then you will probably have to suck it up and get over it.But if someone says something like the below then there’s potential for a lawsuit:
1: Accuses you of a crime.
2: Accuses you of having a serious contagious disease like HIV or AIDS.
3: Makes negative comments about your business which impact said business.
4: Accuses you of cheating or adultery.
Then potentially you could sue them over it. But lets face it, what lawyer is going to take that case? ‘Oh um could you sue these young kids online who are gossiping about me please?’ She’d probably end up having to pay the legal fees for both parties and if she’s looking for financial compensation, what’s she going to get out of a bunch of young people? Candy? Makeup? $20? Also know that these types of comments/remarks must be made to someone else (and not just to the person that the statement is about). Otherwise, there is no lawsuit.
Lawsuits are expensive,especially defamation lawsuits. They must be commenced in supreme court and not in a small claims court. So it’s not cheap to take someone to court over mean things they say online. And ultimately, Inna would put herself into substantial debt, just to sue some people online and get nothing out of it.
Similarly, you can’t sue someone if they say your music is bad, your dress sense is bad, they don’t like your makeup, they think you’re ugly, etc. Most opinions don’t count as defamation because they can’t be proved to be objectively false. Inna can’t, for example say 'Someone said my music sucks, I want to sue them’ because a court can’t go 'Well…we think it’s great so yeah, sure.’ because it’s subjective. The whole point of defamation law is to take care of injuries to reputation. If you want to sue for defamation you need to prove that what was said/written has damaged your reputation or career or personal relationships with family/friends etc. Someone saying 'I think she smells’ or whatever is not defamation. But someone saying 'Inna did [insert crime here]’ would be classed as defamation.
So simply cutting and pasting the definition of defamation isn’t going to cut it. People are entitled to talk and gossip as they see fit so long as it’s not false shit. Also the law treats private citizens and public figures differently. The standard for libel against a public figure is higher. You have to prove not only that the information is false but that the tabloid intended “actual malice” and that is very hard to prove. Specifically, for the public figure you have to demonstrate malice, whereas the falseness of the statement is what matters for the little people. Inna and Jake are public figures, so the law changes when it comes to defamation.
But malice doesn’t mean “because you disliked the person” in a legal context, but rather “did you know it was false, or were you at least reckless with regards to determining whether it was false?”
In regards to this whole 'Stop bullying us thing’. I’m assuming Jake and Inna read this blog. You’re a popular Tumblr, Ren, and I’ve no doubt that some people have screen capped a few anonymous posts and sent them to Inna and Jake.
Jake, Inna, you need to grow thicker skin. That’s the whole part and partial. You need thicker skin. You are both public figures, you’re in the public eye to a point, you’re in careers where you are letting people see you, you post a lot on social media, you are quite open about certain aspects of your personal lives. As such, you need to be prepared for people to comment, criticise and generally be douche bags.
Thin-skinned people often care more about avoiding disapproval than with getting approval. The touchiness, irritability, and defensiveness of people who are thin-skinned often result in silent disapproval by others. Sometimes the disapproval is not silent. Thin-skinned people can become very upset and preoccupied with internal focusing on slights from others. This interferes with their ability to experience the approval and support of significant others. When the Dalai Lama was asked “After the massive destruction the Chinese communist government has wreaked on your country and people, why aren’t you angry?” He replied, “If I got angry, then I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night or eat my meals peacefully. I’d get ulcers, and my health would deteriorate. My anger couldn’t change the past or improve the future, so what use would it be?” (T. Chödrön, 2001).
Have a better sense of who you are and not how you think others think you are. Learn to be more comfortable with yourself and you will slowly be more desensitized by other’s judgments. “Thick skin” = Unapologetic. You may say things like 'I’m who I am, sorry haters’ but you obviously aren’t too comfortable, because of this insane need to react to 'haters’. They are young kids, young adults. They probably have nothing better to do than discuss gossip about band members. They probably enjoy it. At the end of the day, as adults beyond 20, you should be the mature ones and learn to let it go over your heads and stop reacting to it. You cause yourselves more stress when you start yelling and being passive aggressive to a bunch of kids online. If you put yourself out there and aren’t a pissy hard-headed little shit, you’ll attract people like yourself and can enjoy that. If you look you can find people for whoever you are, so why not be what feels best (assuming what feels best isn’t being off putting)? Derive your sense of self worth from how well you’re living your life for you, not from what others say. Realize you have control over yourself and your own thoughts and feelings. Upon realizing these things, you have much better control on how they affect you emotionally. You can then make the choice to subject to those emotions or let them go.
I have a personal rule when it comes to people making fun of me, insulting me and so on online: If I’m not mad enough to physically fight someone, I’m not mad at all.
You choose to let things said online bother you, you choose to go on these huge blocking sprees and witch hunts. You essentially hurt yourselves by doing so. Stop getting people to send in screenshots, stop going on witch hunts for young adolescents and grow thicker skin, and act more professional. You can be intimate with fans in the sense of sharing photos and vlogs, but you can also show them where the limit is, without lowering yourself to a gossipers level and insulting fans. BVB, with the exception of Jinxx and Cc, are all guilty of encouraging drama, by being secretive and letting little bits of info slip to fans. This whole business with Ashley supposedly leaving the band, that fact that Jake has said Ashley doesn’t do bass and that he himself tracks the bass, things like that cause drama. If you don’t want drama, don’t toss titbits of gossip to fans like you toss scraps to starving dogs.
You can either be 'best friends’ with your fans, or treat them as fans and keep them at a distance. If you want to be buddy buddy with your fans, then keep going as you are, and you’ll get a buddy buddy situation where half of them love you, half of them gossip about you, like you get in all friend situations. Or you can keep them as fans and control the info they get by keeping your mouth shut in public circles where fans can readily get the info (This is honestly not hard, lots of bands do this.). In which case. BVB and Jake and Inna need to stop using fans like minions and using them for personal gain and witch hunts. Because when you start giving fans liberties, they start to take advantage and start to treat you like they might treat their own friends. In which case the thin line between fan and 'idol’ is gone and you have the situation BVB and Jake and Inna have on their hands right now. Which is unruly fans who gossip and suck up to them, like you get in all clique friend circles.
Also, a lot of this boils down to a loss of respect from both parties. BVB, Jake and Inna all have an issue in that they have lost respect for fans and in turn, fans have lost respect for them. When you insult, scold and belittle your fans, they are going to be offended. When you do what Andy did and dismiss your fans and insult them, they’re going to be hurt and angry. When you constantly do what Jake and Inna do with fans, they’re going to be offended and treat you like a joke.
Mutual respect on both sides needs to be key in fan and band interaction, and BVB and Jake and Inna just do not have that anymore. They’ve lost the respect of their fans and they have lost respect for their fans.
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Really Inna?
What are you, in middle school? Can you please just fucking stop already? It’s nothing but whine, bitch, moan, and groan from a grown-ass woman. You should be thankful you are even a damn blip on the radar. “Oh, I’m married to a famous rocker and people are mean to me, boo hoo!” Fucking get OVER it already. 
Obviously you’d rather have the attention and the limelight or else you would have stayed off social media and not subjected your delicate sensibilities to such comments. Yes, you are a person, but you married a FAMOUS person. If people don’t want to give up their privacy and have random strangers sticking their noses into literally every corner of their lives, then you don’t try to get famous. 
It’s quite simple. Fame=no privacy. You always have the option of just staying off social media, or better yet, stop reminding every damn body that you are married to Jake and get your own life and your own social circle. 
The fans can make or break him, you, your band, and BVB, and the sooner you come to terms with this the better off you will be. Without the fans, you are back to flipping burgers at McD’s or flashing your tits on a stripper pole. Can’t handle the heat, then honey you better move over because there are literally millions of others who are younger and hungrier for fame than you and Jake are.
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The Death of Warped
On the topic of Warped Tour closing out - honestly, I’m surprised it managed to stay around as long as it did. I wasn’t following it until the last few years, but during that time they never had any large headliner-type bands. In all honesty, if it hasn’t been for Warped Tour I would never have heard of PVRIS, Falling In Reverse, and so many other bands that have populated WT over the past few years.
These aren’t headliners. They are small bands with a small fanbase who are still playing in nightclubs and arenas that hold 2K people max. It’s not like they are out there selling out arenas that hold 65K+ fans. WT is more of a ‘starter’ tour than anything to me. They aren’t Ozzfest and they certainly aren’t booking the big-name bands like Ozzfest. It honestly makes me wonder if WT are incapable of getting larger named bands. If they aren’t, and they are forced to contend with the bands that are still trying to make a name for themselves, then is it any wonder they aren’t attracting the crowds? If no one knows who the bands are, then you can’t expect people to come out in the middle of summer for an all-day event to listen to a bunch of garage bands. And if they can’t attract any big-name headliners, then WT definitely has more problems than just ticket sales.
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American Satan
So all these big name people like Rob Zombie etc had a hand in American Satan yet it isn't opening nation wide. Hmmm, anyone else find that odd?
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Admins?
Anyone want to help run this page? It was supposed to have been a silly BVB conspiracy theory page & analytics of celebrity behavior, but I kinda got sidetracked. If interested message me.
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I don’t know whether to laugh or cringe ...
Wait, do you think she would actually do that?
Naw, she’s more of an “accidently releases sex tape and gets rich off it” kinda gal.
"Wow! Juliet and Andy sleep in the same bed! Oh wonder! What is she going to post next? Doing a livestream on IG while having sex?" Yes, please. I would honestly pay to see that! 1. So I can fan girl over Andy having an orgasm and 2. So I can later act disgusted that Juliet would do something so trashy.
That’s disgusting. -N
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