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strong “we saw you across the bar and really dig your vibe” energy

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Real classical literature bitches know that Achilles was in fact just a whiny twink who wanted to live on a farm with his bf and Patroclus was in fact terrifying and incredibly brave. Sick seeing the mischaracterization of these two.

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please stop making patroclus normal, he's as weird as achilles and maybe a little more. they match each other freaks in the worse way and i think it's beautiful.

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achilles killing hector as a metaphor for suicide

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:(

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achilles’ breaks are a serious matter. bitch. | in which patroclus is rather protective of achilles’ break time and continues his crass manner with zagreus and also calls him a bitch because he can

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By the way. absolutely no pressure or rush on Jorge or anything, this is just a thought, but he did mention before that after working on other smaller projects, he does think he might write a full-length musical for the iliad

And I'm just thinking, because I literally cannot listen to Would You Fall In Love With Me Again without tearing up

If this is the power Jorge has in writing a song about Odysseus and Penelope reuniting, about love returning-

I am so damn curious and so excited to hear/see what he will do with Achilles at Patroclus' death, love being lost.

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Hector knew it was Patroclus he was killing. I don’t know where the idea that he didn’t started (and, just to be clear, if you want to write him like he didn’t, that’s perfectly okay) but in the original Iliad, he damn well knew the man he was skewering, not in the least because said man SPOKE to him before going down

Patroclus, the second-best warrior the Greeks had, almost as good as the half-god Achilles

Patroclus, who was trying to breach the walls of Troy, to get to Andromache, to little Astyanax, to his aging father Priam. To kill them

Patroclus, who had just slain the god-son Sarpedon unaided

Patroclus, who, blinded, without armor, without weapons, thrown from the towering walls TWICE with all the force of a God, still stood upright, still challenged him

Hector was noble. Hector was not foolish. I wouldn’t want that man alive either, if I was on the opposing team

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I am never not thinking about Achilles screaming Hector’s name across the battlefield. Because Paris loved Helen enough to start a war in her name, and Hector loved Paris enough to be the face of that war in his place, and Patroclus loved Achilles enough to die for him, and Achilles loved Patroclus enough to kill a man that he knew would bring his own death. It was a culmination of love and all of it ended in blood.

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Such an underrated Achilles moment is him cutting off his hair to place in Patroclus' hands before lighting his funeral pyre. Like, listen listen listen, the main reason our boy grew his hair long at all is because his father promised it to the river-god Spercheus upon his safe return home. Please. Peleus promised to sacrifice his son's beautiful hair in exchange for his beautiful son's homecoming. And Achilles, fucking Achilles (beloved/beloathed), cuts it all off to give to Patroclus on his final journey, because he knows, he knows, the river-god won't fulfill his father's request. Because Achilles won't let him. Because in that moment, Achilles already knows he won't be coming home.

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Churchill: I hope I can be like napoleon

Napoleon: I hope I can be like caesar

Caesar: I hope I can be like alexander the great

Alexander the great: I hope I can be like achilles

Achilles: I hope patroclus fucks me today

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My favorite part of the Song of Achilles:

Achilles: How could Heracles not recognize his wife?

Chiron: That is the nature of madness.

Patroclus’ inner monologue: Sounds like a skill issue. Couldn’t be me. Truly pathetic to be honest. Personally, I would recognize Achilles in the dark, or in disguise. I would know him even in madness. But that’s just me I guess.

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LOSING IT 😭😭

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Sorry, but the whole “Hector is wearing Achilles’ own armor, taken from my corpse. It looks, almost, as if Achilles is chasing himself.” part just has me thinking… Who is Achilles truly hunting down on that battlefield? The man who killed Patroclus, or the man who let Patroclus walk into his demise? Who is Achilles trying to punish? Who is he truly trying to kill? Hector or himself?

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Something I find makes the life and death of Achilles far more tragic is the fact that all he is is the Trojan War. His parents’ wedding begins the conflict, and he dies before the end of the war. His entire life was spent in something he had no control over. Did he know Helen? Paris? Hektor? The Trojans became his enemies only when he reached the beaches of Troy.

Hell, if we go by the Achilleid, Achilles didn’t even know what the war was about until he was sailing to Troy. A young boy whose birth produced an unjust prophecy that dictated the rest of his life: Live long and die in obscurity, or die in war and live in the minds of the people forever. No greek man of his time could bear to die in obscurity, but it was especially impossible for Achilles to do so. His father Peleus, a legendary Argonaut whose adventures would be remembered for millenia, his mother Thetis, a towering goddess raised by the queen of the gods herself.

Their child had to be known.

At Aulis the greeks call for Achilles, a legend before he even steps into the battlefield, and he is forced to go to war. And he fights, he kills, he ravages the city of Troy. A boy who has never even seen a battle in his life, living in peaceful Pthia and later protected by mighty Chiron in Thessally, becomes a machine specifically created for one purpose: To destroy Troy.

This is the reason why Achilles refuses to fight after the taking of Briseis. Unlike Agamemnon, who lived before the Trojan War, who had a wife and family before the Trojan War, who will leave Troy. Or Odysseus who will tell his tales to his son and wife after 20 years away. Or Menelaus who after years regains his family and rules Sparta in peace. Achilles has no life, no future, he IS Troy, more than even Hektor, Paris, and Priam are. Thus, when his honor is threatened, everything he has ever lived for has been taken away from him. Realize that before the taking of Briseis, Agamemnon mentioned takingthe “bride prizes” from the other greek kings and despite this not going anywhere none of them attempted to argue. Would Odysseus attempt to kill Agamemnon if his bride prize were taken? Would Diomedes or Greater Ajax?

And yet, after Achilles lives his entire life for war. After he struggles and suffers so much at the face of adversity. At the loss of his everything, Patroklos. At the slight to his honor. He spends the rest of eternity regretting everything he had ever done. Perhaps it is a mercy to Achilles that shades forget their life on earth

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Had a dream that Epic had an unfinished song called Love Remains in which the ghost of Achilles tells Odysseus that over the years he has been dead, all the desire for honour and glory he once held close had faded away, and the only thing that remained was the love of Patroclus, and I kind of wish I was a better songwriter because damn

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I heard someone say this, so we’re sharing.

Rick Riordan loves his long standing romances to mirror Grecian romance myths.

Percy and Annabeth mirror Odysseus and Penelope, how they love each other and Percy was thrown onto the island of Ogyia with Calypso. Even through the wars, he fought for her. He fought Polyphemus. He could never forget Annabeth regardless of what was thrown at him.

Nico and Will mirror Orpheus and Eurydice. They both went to the underworld. Will could never leave without his Eurydice, Nico. He traveled the Underworld and turned around on the stairs to see Nico. He used song to open the stairs of Orpheus. He proved multiple times that he would not let himself live without Nico there. He was weaker than Nico, but he would fight for him. Their love had the approval of the Gods and Hades, in specific.

Honorable mention: Silena Beauregard and Clarisse La Rue. You CANNOT tell me they weren’t in love with each other in the good luck, babe/casual/I wish you were a boy sense. anyways. Achilles and Patroclus. Clarisse who despised most except Silena. Silena who was kind-natured and sweet but still could be strong. Clarisse who was relentless, cruel, strong, and a valiant fighter. Clarisse who boycott the war. Silena who wore Clarisse’s uniform to break the boycott. Clarisse who brutally k*lled others because the one she held most close to her heart died. Clarisse who loved her best friend, Silena.