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You don’t need to worry so much.

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Truth.

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cinematic parallels: the untamed episode 24 | the untamed episode 46 | whose line is it anyway: scenes from a hat

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I DID unfollow a mutual for reblogging without any refutal a post where amongst the usual JC hate they said they fully believe JC will had say yes, even downright pressure wwx to do it, had he know about the core transfer beforehand, which made like *le gasp*, it was just not to be borne with me, was I too hateful?

No that was legit, I’m getting a forehead furrow just via secondhand exposure and skincare is important. Granted, that furrow is in part because I’m deeply confused about the logic chain on that one. Even leaving aside the whole giving himself up to get his core crushed and then be killed thing- wait, no, I will not leave that aside. Jiang Cheng would die a horrible death for Wei Wuxian and you’ve got to take that into account when you’re theorizing about his motives and likely behaviour! But in addition to that, Wei Wuxian thinks that Jiang Cheng will feel like shit about the core transfer and be super upset by it and then Jiang Cheng, in canon, very explicitly, feels like shit about the core transfer and is super upset by it. Granted, Wei Wuxian’s reasoning is that he believes Jiang Cheng will think his accomplishments don’t count as his own and that will trigger his inferiority complex, but assuming he’s right that just means that in addition to being risk averse and loving his brother Jiang Cheng’s not even really able to enjoy having a core if he knows where it’s from. Wanting to succeed on his own merits is a pretty big part of his entire deal! His angels and demons are in accord on this one!

If it wasn’t for the experimental surgery with a 50% chance of failure thing I think Jiang Cheng could maybe be talked into it for the good of the sect, but he would hate it for both good and bad reasons and honestly I have a really hard time seeing him going for it. He was ready to leave Yunmeng Jiang in Wei Wuxian and Yanli’s hands when he turned himself over the the Wen, and I don’t think he’s changed his mind about that!

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JC: "He's adopted."

LZ & LXC: *internally* "No shit."

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How subtext can tell us that Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji had sex after this scene:

First of all, Lan Wangji goes to Wei Wuxian’s rooms with alcohol, a gift that indicates how he is letting go of his strictness in respecting the sect’s rule. This can subtextually be taken to indicate that he has become more open to intimacy. Also to note that the to flasks together can be interpreted as a visual metaphor for a scrotum.

Then we can notice that he has chosen to wear a very comfortable and simple hairstyle, when he usually wears a very elaborate style and a cumbersome headpiece. It might indicate that he has dressed up for particular kind of activity or for sleeping in Wei Wuxian’s room.

To note that he was already wearing the headpiece earlier that night and that he changed his hairstyle when he temporarily left and let Wei Wuxian converse with his brother.

Then Lan Wangji starts playing a slow song (which we can hear for some seconds before their theme starts to play over it). Perhaps it could be intended as a piece to set a sensual mood. Wei Wuxian reacts by getting closer to him.

All the while Wei Wuxian is handling a bottle with a rather phallic shape before his crotch.

Bottles are a recurrent visual metaphor for the phallus in art. Here are some examples I have at hand: From: The Addams Family, S1EP12 - Morticia the Matchmaker (1964) 

From: Rope (1948)

Then the scene fades to black and transitions to a shot focusing on a puff of smoke. 

The presence of fire, smoke or steam is a recurrent visual metaphor for sex in art. Here are some examples: From: Bewitched, S1EP1 I, Darrin, Take This Witch, Samantha (1964)

From: The Addams Family, S1EP07 - Halloween with the Addams Family (1964)

Here’s a more specific example in a Chinese movie in which burning incense has been used for such a kind of visual metaphor: From: Farewell My Concubine (1993)

Finally, the morning after, they made a point to show that Wei Wuxian hasn’t slept much the night before.

A similar post-consummation scene can also be seen in other chinese dramas:

From: The Story of Ming Lan, EP41 (2018)

So that’s why I believe it is hinted in the subtext that they had sex (possibly for the first time) after this scene.

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When was Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji’s first kiss in The Untamed?

To answer this question, I think it’s better to reason backwards, starting from…

THE FIRST TIME THEY HAVE SEX Through a mix of visual metaphors and early morning tiredness, it is hinted that Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji have have sex in episode 43. You can read the full meta here.

But we can also extrapolate how that is the first time they have sex, because it seems that, before that day, Lan Wangji has never seen Wei Wuxian naked enough to see the remaining scar from Mo Xuanyu’s sacrifice. In episode 35, when Lan Wangji enquires about the curse mark on his leg, Wei Wuxian internally thinks about the scar on his arm instead, implying that he is hiding it from Lan Wangji.

Then, in episode 42, there is a reveal about Wei Wuxian being resurrected through a Sacrificing Curse.

Soon after, Wei Wuxian gets injured and faints. He wakes up again the same day as the scene in which subtexts suggests he and Lan Wanji have sex. At this time, Lan Wangji has finally learned of the curse and exposes his scar, indicating that he had not seen Wei Wuxian significantly naked between his resurrection and helping him change after being injured in the abdomen.

Moreover the issue of Lan Wangji’s scars own scars is also resolved indirectly just before that evening, which, although correlated only emotionally and not logistically, could contribute to make it unlikely that, before then, they are intimate enough to already have had sex.

That said, if they have sex when this scene fades to black, their first kiss should be located not later than at this point in time.

Keep reading

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THE UNTAMED episode five | episode thirty-three

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Priorities. ✨

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the untamed + text posts

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the untamed + text posts

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the best part about wei wuxian's resurrection scene is that it happens when the audience doesn't know anything about him yet, so when he goes "i'm going to act like a deranged homosexual lunatic so no one recognizes me" you're like yeah sure that could be a feasible disguise until the flashback happens and you realize it's a terrible idea, because wei wuxian acts like a deranged homosexual lunatic all the time

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Presenting a timeline of mdzs’s complex events with approximate ages for everyone who is given an age (sorry, Song Lan, I think you’re xxc’s age but like that’s not explicitly in the text). 

references are to chapters, author interviews, and a few explanations (like how we know it is closer to 14 than 13 years since Wei Wuxian’s death given Jin Ling’s age).  

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heads- up: someone is taking jc-centric fics and turning them into jc-bashing wangxian fics

I don't usually like to bring twitter drama over to tumblr but since the perpetrator in this case explicitly said they do this ON TUMBLR I felt it was pertinent to do so.

Today user DyuaLan on twitter, aka @jiaoji on tumblr, publically bragged about finding chengxian, xicheng, and zhanzheng fics and changing the names to make them wangxian fics with jiang cheng bashing.

When authors (understandably) reacted to this by blocking them, they boasted about still having 15 stolen fics in their drafts on top of the ones they've already posted.

And that they do all of this stuff on tumblr anyway, not twitter

If you have written any kind of Jiang Cheng ships, or Jiang Cheng-centric fic in general, and are not a fan of your work being stolen, it's in your best interest to block them.

They also said that they block everyone they steal from. Though if you go to the blog now and are blocked, please don't panic, that might just be for fanwar reasons.

Here's proof that DyuaLan is in fact the same person as Jiaoji:

(@jiaoji and @jiaoji2 lead to the same blog, it was probably called this because they at some point lost access/moved from their previous blog @jiao-ji)

And here jiaoji is bragging on their tumblr about feeling too lazy to even rewrite someone else's work

Their ao3 is "Jiao_ji" where they have 16 works total, most of which are in portuguese, making it harder to verify which ones are stolen, as a lot of their "sources" are probably in english. (Most of the fics they have written on tumblr itself are also in english) They also have a wattpad account with the url "Dilf_ji"

As a bonus here they are 2 years ago whining about zhancheng authors blocking them because it means they can no longer steal their fics, this has been going on for a while.

And talking a bit more about stealing from chengxian and zhancheng authors:

While I haven't written any jiang cheng ships, I am a fic writer, and I know the work that goes into it. I can work on a single oneshot for months on end. So this kind of attitude, where if you hate a ship the author's work is just free for the taking, is appaling to me. Inspiration is normal, fandom is inherently transformative. Hell, ao3 has a "works inspired by" function for exactly that. But wholesale lifting someone's else's writing, only changing the ship and adding salt about a character you hate? Yeah, no. "Character bashing" fics aren't my cup of tea in the first place, but if you're going to do it, at least have the decency to write the damn things yourself.

I don't like doing callouts, so while I know that I can't really control anyone else's actions, I want to say for my own peace of mind... please just block this person. I don't wanna cause even more discourse. Remember: you don't feed trolls. I posted this because i think writers deserve to be warned when someone is maliciously stealing and editing their work, not to instigate harassment.

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the yiling patriarch

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The Untamed + text posts [3/?]

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Discord Server Hack - it's gone. For now.

Yes, our Discord server was hacked. The entire server was deleted, channel by channel.

The culprit also spammed an extremely rude image. Apologies for those who saw that travesty.

For now, we do not have a timeline for what will happen next. If there's a way to get a backup, great. If not, we may start a new server. I will continue to report here on what's up.

Edit to add: Please give us some time. Message requests and friend requests on Discord will be ignored (I'm sorry).