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JK's Weverse live 2 Feb 2023

OMG OMG OMG.

JK man, what did you do to us?

4 hours of JK. 4 friggin' hours.

Before I dive into the abyss I will say that this post is based on multiple trustworthy translation accounts, seeing there is no official translation nor will there be for quite some time now (4 hr. live, lol). I will update if any changes need to be made (after the official translation comes out).

Also, This is a long ass post, so breach yourselves, get yourselves your favourite snacks sit down and enjoy the ride. So so much to come.

Starting with his:

Knock knock, cheeky JK.

Let's sum up the 4 hours of the live shall we:

JK did the live in Brunnan.

JK's hair is long.

JK loves Bammi.

JK talked about his tattoos.

JK drank more beer than I could ever in one seating. Or maybe even 2 or 3 or 4...(I am a lightweight though).

JK was tired and still continued the live.

JK isn't working on his album at the moment, he's at home not doing much, well not working in any case.

RM commented a lot.

Tae commented a lot and got JK to do a live on IG that turned out to be pretty short, just surpassing his 7 min. live a few days back.

JK sang. A LOT.

JK sang Vibe. Twice. After calling JM cool, then adding Taeyang is cool too. He also gave us a little dance move.

Ooh, and we got JK singing Sam Smith's Unholy.

That's 4 hours in a nut shell I guess.

End of post.

Nah, gotcha.

We have tons to cover, so let's get it:

JK starts the live telling us he's not really supposed to be doing a live, I told you, cheeky boy.

Lol.

JK moves on to tell us he's not working on his album at the moment, and actually not doing much of anything at the moment.

I'm all for it. After 10 years of working practically non stop, throughout his youth, he deserves this time off.

JK does say he's spending time alone, at times hasn't left the house for 6 days in a row.

And as the introvert that he is, and as the introvert that I am, I get him. Totally. I could stay at home for days and feel totally content.

Doesn't mean he's not doing anything though. He's doing what he wants to do as opposed as living by a schedule. Taking the time to watch shows, videos, clips he wants to watch is one of those things he told us he does. I just do hope he's in a good mind space. The past couple of years were not easy. The not knowing not easy. Knowing MS is around the corner not easy. Jikook having to adjust to the new reality not easy. He needs this rest and I'm happy he's getting it.

Makes me think though about those stories told of him going out on the town like going skiing or snowboarding or spending time with Tae all the time (I literally have an ask in my inbox telling me just that). Dunno, perhaps it's time for many to finally start questioning these unsubstantiated stories?

Now don't come at me. Not saying JK and Tae aren't close friends. They might be both meeting up occasionally and/or playing online games together all day everyday. What I'm saying is that I'm sick of unsubstantiated stories someone sprouts on Twitter turned into facts without any actual proof.

And it's always the TKK side of things - believing until proven wrong. Because when the shoe is on the other foot, aka JKK, the knee jerk reaction is to not believe until proven true.

Just a thought...

After JK talks about how long his hair has grown, and damn, it has grown so long, Bam makes an appearance. Bammi. How we missed him so.

I truly think Bam deserves a whole post of his own, and I will give you one. I promise. Cause so many cute Bamkook moments, including a lethal Bam kiss.

JK's asked about Jin and says he thinks he's doing well and that he's in touch with them occasionally in their group chat. That same group chat many fans forget they actually have to communicate amongst themselves and not via their public IG accounts. That is when they don't communicate personally with each other privately.

JK brings up not seeing "Yoongi marry me".

Vibe.

Next JK started with the karaoke. We got to enjoy JK's flawless voice throughout his live. But he started us off with Vibe.

JK singing and dancing vibe on his live - all I've been living for the past couple of weeks, lol - singing it TWICE.

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This too deserves a whole separate post, and it probably will get one.

Saying that, JK with singing Vibe (do I have to remind he did it twice?) has now performed 7 of JM's songs while live or recording content.

JK continues to sing several songs by TXT, New Jeans, Seventeen, RM, etc. Like I said, karaoke night full blow (filling up the 4 hour live).

A list of his songs throughout the live can be found here:

JK was asked if he has a tattoo on his back, to which he said he doesn't, only on his right arm.

We had a little JK-Army flirtation going on, as per usual, lol.

Mr. Jeon Jungkook also thinks maybe he's the next to get appendicitis. I sure hope he's wrong.

And that at 25 yo he's getting old.- everything hurts. Why am I not surprised (man cannot do anything half way).

RM popped in to visit JK's live, a little drunk perhaps, lol.

And JK...

Next comes the thing everyone has been literally waiting for...

The tattoos.

I know this will be twisted and turned and I feel sorry for the accounts with their anons open, cause this, not surprisingly, is turning into to a shit storm...

There are a few translations out there, most not full ones, and others pretty unreliable.

So, I'm still on the lookout for a reliable full translation for these. I've found a couple that feel like they have an agenda.

I did find this one, a full translation that seems to be more or less on the up and up - lines up with all the bits and pieces I've found in the accounts I do trust.

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One specific tattoo JK neglects to talk about is the eclipse tattoo. Unintentional you think? I think not.

So, let's get down to what we really came for, eh? His hand tattoo. The talk of the town.

I know JK said the J is for JK. JK and Army.

Loud and clear, right?

But is it?

Is JK sharing the whole story with us?

Why then on the ring finger?

Why over the M?

Why not allow anything come between the two?

Also funny, as @jaksal pointed out, how for JM's birthday in 2021 for some reason the J and M were kept apart, distanced, quite like the J and M on JK's finger. Apart but not parted (mostly).

Another question I can't help but ask is since when does J stand for JK? Really. Please tell me when was the first or last time JK ever referred to himself as J.

Jungkook calls himself JK. He is referred to by others as JK. When he writes his name in Roman letters he writes JK. Never J.

On top of that, why not put the J over the A? Would make more sense, J + Army from the start...

And if he decided to put the crown over the A, which he did, then why not put the J over any other finger other than the actual ring finger that happened to make a lovely clear and constantly touched up and darkened JM?

Could JK share the whole story with us even if he really wanted to?

JK in essence debunked the story that Army were living for since 2019 - that Army with the J stood for all the 7 members of BTS. The A inverted standing for V.

Yes, he said the J is for JK, but could he say he added the J on his ring finger over the M to make JM? The only one out of all of the members he decided to tattoo onto his skin, have on his hand for all to see?

Telling us J over the M on his ring finger stood for JM would be literally outing the two as a queer couple. No ifs ands or buts.

And you can't say the same about him telling us army is army. Because admitting army was for all the members wouldn't put him in a queer relationship with one of the members, all while having JM on his ring finger would seal the deal on that.

So what did JK do talking about his tattoos? He omitted the JM, and the eclipse - the two specific known tattoos that can link him directly to JM (and if the eclipse had nothing to do with JM why not talk about it too?).

Oh, and I know what comes next -

Being asked "are you calling him a liar?"

Heck no.

But telling a necessary untruth, or embellishing the truth, or omitting some facts, or perhaps the right way of seeing it is giving us the acceptable excuse.

Nope. Not lying. But all the above... yeah, that.

Seriously, take a second to think clearly. What was he supposed to do? Really? Admit that the J and M are connected and mean JM?

I've been seeing people talking about how JK didn't realise what he was doing. That he didn't see the placement came out like JM. Please give me a break. Do they really have such low regard for JK?

The man that came up with this:

Wouldn't realise the J placed over the M makes JM - Jimin. Ha-ha-ha.

With or without the next paragraph, JK knew what he was doing.

But if we do trust this specific translation, JK points out that he placed the crown over the A. Thoughtfully. Intentionally. Do we really think he wouldn't have had the same thought process with the J?

Please don't insult JK's intelligence.

And if you wonder what K-JKKs are thinking:

And being harassed and bullied and bad mouthed for speaking their minds. How familiar...

Oh, and just in case we forgot, during the live JK made sure we'll remember how he refers to Jimin... starting to actually say the actual name and then intentionally changing it up to JM. See for yourselves.

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And if you are even interested to know what my 21 yo army non Jikooker daughter's reaction was to the whole Army and J tattoo explanation (you're getting either way)...same daughter that told me the army stood for all members and we argued about it many a times.

You know what she said to me?

"Well, what do you expect him to say? That it's JM? Of course he can't say that".

EXACTLY!!

He can't say it.

So, if I haven't made myself clear by now I'll say it once more with feeling:

The combination of the J and the M on JK's ring finger stands for JM.

Again, I don't think JK is lying. But he's omitting.

The J could definitley be there to not only mean JM but him as well, which would make it even more romantic, if you will. The J and the M, JK and JM marked on his ring finger. If that's not commitment idk what is.

Then Tae joined the fun.

So, JK started the live.

Full untranslated live here (couldn't find a reliable translated one on YT just yet):

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JK getting up mid live, to get something?

comes back and still talk for a few minutes, to each other (?) and that's it.

Not much was going on there.

Not gonna say the D (disconnected) word, cause y'all gonna come down my throat.

What was kind of obvious is that no, they no bumping knees. Two mates talking. To each other, next to each other, sometimes the first, sometimes the other.

When you are asking to have a live but then reduced to play with the filters cause the convo, it just ain't flowing, all to end the live after around 10 minutes (I think only around half of that was them talking to each other)...

I'd say reach your own conclusions.

The apartment

Before moving on let's talk a little about the apartment shall we?

We know who is on the lease of Brunnan.

We know it's furnished with some of the dorm's furniture (I'm not 100% sure, but that lounge sure looked like the dorm lounge).

Walls bare.

Clothes rack empty.

What looked like his coat maybe lying on the lounge next to him.

This time he was prepared with a chilled beer glass (after the tea cup wine drinking debacle, lol).

Let's get real here.

Could he be living there? Sure he could. Spending days on end in a bare, cold, lifeless apartment with zero character.

Could he be living elsewhere, let's say somewhere where we aren't even shown anything other than the tv screen? Sure he could. But not on paper. Not officially.

Could two grown men that literally aren't allowed to be in a queer relationship starting the second they enlist need to have official/public known separate addresses, and perhaps there is another place, kept secret, where they can spend most of their time together their privacy guaranteed? Knowing there are still queer couples in SK that live that way, my answer to that will be yes.

Do we know for sure? Heck no. And that, my friends, is the whole idea. We're not supposed to know, as much as our curiosity kills us.

Just a couple of more things and we're done. Phew...

We had this:

JK likes cute

Just in case we weren't aware of it, once again JK confirms that his type is cute. Since forever.

Cute has JK giggling.

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Cute has JK drooling.

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Another one that deserves it's very own post. So much to do...

Note to self: you asked for Jikook content, don't complain now that you got some.

Sam Smith's Unholy

I'm going to end this long ass post with some JK singing and dancing to Sam Smith's Unholy.

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Because how better to end this with a diva JK?

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Of course he'll know the choreo.

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chicklovesbunny · 3 years ago

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【CéCi October Issue 20th Anniversary Limited Edition】BTS’ Interview Trans.

“Nothing’s really changed baby, it’s my second year of kpop I’m still 181 baby, only my heart grew taller I’m the first in my class baby, I even got the rookie award” – 2nd Grade

Ceci: Last year, BTS swept all of the rookie awards. In articles, you guys were praised as “선방” (lit.: put up a good defense). You guys seem to be a group with a lot of confidence.

Rapmon: We had the luck. And because Bangtan clearly stated what we want to achieve, we want to be a little bit more appealing to the public.

Ceci: What are you most confident of (in the team)?

Rapmon: Of course it’s rapping.

Suga: Composing.

V: Photo shooting.

Jin: I’m hard-working, so I’m always the first one to get up with Jimin and then wake up the rest of the members. I don’t have a good memory, but sometimes it’s a good thing. Because when I read harsh comments online, I will forget it the next day.

Jimin: Passion? (Laughs)

Ceci: Debuting 2 years, what do you guys think has improved (within the group)?

V: Team work.

Jungkook: Now when I stand on the stage, I can see the red light on the cameras. (Laughs)

Suga: When I compose songs, I break the thought of “this is the answer.”

Ceci: When do you get the feeling that you guys are popular?

V: When my aunties asks for autographs (laughs).

Jungkook: I can feel our popularity when there are a lot of fans in the airport. We went to Thailand recently, and I was so surprised to see thousands of fans greeting us at the airport.

Jimin: I feel touched when our foreign fans sing along to our songs in Korean.

Ceci: What kind of things would change being in 3rd year of kpop?

Rapmon: It feels like we’re in between of looking back and looking forward. Whether it’s our group’s identity or our individual’s role, it’s a lot clearer.

“Who are we? Who? The rise of Bangtan” – The Rise of Bangtan

Ceci: What are you in charge of in the group?

Rapmon: clothing and sense of taste. Because I’m making music with the base of hip hop so our appearance is important (how we look in public is important). Before leaving our dormitory, I would give advice to the members about their styles.

Jin: Food. I like to eat, and I like to cook. Recently it was Jungkook’s birthday and I cooked seaweed soup for him. I make rice cake soup on Korean New Year’s day (Seolnal) and also on our first anniversary; we made delicious food together. I’m teaching myself to cook so I add in the ingredients that I want to put in.

Jimin: He puts in ingredients that I’ve never thought it would tastes good together. For example, he adds milk into kimchi fried rice. I was surprised that it tastes so good.

Jin: Ah, that was actually a mistake. (Laughs)

J-Hope: I’m the link (that holds the group together). Since I’m right in the middle (in order of age) so my role is a bridge between hyungs and dongsaengs.

V: Sociability. I can even bond with strangers really quickly. And Bangtan’s future (Laughs). I want to work in various areas/ fields in the future. Such as acting or entertaining (variety shows).

Ceci: What’s the advantage of men living together?

V: We are like blood brothers.

Rapmon: We can borrow and wear each others’ clothes.

Jimin: We are guys so we do things really quickly, whether it’s packing luggage or cleaning.

Rapmon: Because J-Hope hyung and Jin hyung are neat so they’re in charge of cleaning.

Ceci: It must be fun being together.

Jimin: Maknae Jungkook is so funny in the dorm. (He lightens up the dorm)

Jungkook: I’m very active when I’m with people that I’m close to but I’m shy in front of people that I just met.

Jin: When we go to practice and then come back to the dorm, all 6 members will be lying on the floor, but there’s Jungkook, doing the laundry by himself. (Laughs)

Jimin: His physical strength is incredible.

Ceci: Is Bangtan a ‘democratic’ group? For example, when it comes to deciding what to eat or who sits on which seat in the car.

Suga: Mostly it’s decided by majority votes. I can’t decide what to eat so someone else can decide.

Jimin: Only leader sits in the passenger seat and the rest is first come first served basis.

Jin: We don’t like sitting in the middle, so we glances at each other (trying to read other’s thoughts). It’s really uncomfortable sitting there. But I always end up sitting in the middle. It’s unfair for me. I asked them my shoulders are broad, it’s so inconvenient, why am I sitting in the middle, (laughs) so why not offer your seats to me!

Jimin: He has a bad personality. Typical Gyeonggi-do man.

Jin: Hey, Gyeonggi-do guys are famous for their good personality.

Ceci: Do you guys bet on foods?

Jimin: When we practice dance and we get hungry so we talk about food, and then including our dance teacher, we play the ladder climbing game/ ghost leg to decide who will buy the pig’s feet.

Suga: We also have bets on ice-cream.

Jin: When we finish eating, we play rock, paper and scissors to decide which two members cleans up. The chosen members hates it so then they decide which one will clean. (Laughs) As a result, that one member will be complaining while cleaning up.

Jimin: Recently, J-Hope hyung has been cleaning up by himself.

“From Seoul to Gangwon, Kyeongsangdo, Chungcheong to Jeolla

Tell them that we have come

We are real hot stuff” – Satoori Rap

Ceci: What was most difficult when you came up Seoul?

J-Hope: The subway route is too complicated. Our dorm is at Sinsa station, and the express bus terminal station and Sinsa station are both on line 3, but I was wandering around for an hour.

Jimin: Me too! When I first came up to Seoul, I was asking the people around me “how do you use the subway?” I didn’t even know if I need to touch the ticket machine or not.

Rapmon: People probably thought you came from Andromeda.

Jimin: There are only 5 subway lines in Busan.

J-Hope: Wow, Gwangju has only 1 line. (Laughs)

Ceci: The intense trainee life was also difficult, right? What was your driving force to endure it?

Rapmon: The eager desire to debut. The dreams of receiving rookie award and achieving no.1 in music shows, being no.1 on melon chart kept me going.

J-Hope: My friends’ support.

Jungkook: When I’m having a hard time, Jimin hyung comforted me. He also listens to my worries.

Ceci: Shall we boast about our hometown one by one?

J-Hope: There’s a very tasty Korean food restaurant at the bottom of Mudeung Mountain.

Jin: When we go to these provinces for fansigns, each of us recommends good places to eat. There is Suga when we go to Daegu. There is J-Hope when we go to Gwangju.

V: Geochang, firstly, there’s only me as a celebrity. (Laughs) Also, the apples are very delicious, and there is even catfish if you go to the rural parts.

Jin: We all have so much pride in our hometowns, so we fight like kids whenever we talk about our hometowns. In Gyeonggi-do, Gwacheon, all the residents are friendly with each other. It’s to the extent that we know everybody, and also there is Seoul Grand Park. It takes 5 minutes to walk there.

Jimin: You haven’t been to the market in Busan, right? It’s more fun than the amusement park.

Jin: Have you been on the Elephant Train? It circulates through the Seoul Grand Park.

Rapmon: Of course Everland is the best when it comes to amusement park.

Jimin: I’ve told you to go see the market!

Rapmon: If Jungkook got involved, there will be a fight. (Laughs)

“I didn’t think much of writing or poems

But it came to me suddenly like Shim Chung

U used to be a fight less bird but it opened my eyes” – Hip Hop Lover

Ceci: How did you first encounter Hip Hop music?

Jimin: At first I was interested in dancing. Even when I came up to Seoul, I didn’t know much about hip hop but the hyungs helped me a lot. Rapmon hyung even gave me a list of artists and songs. I dreamed of adding my vocals into the songs while seeing the hyungs composing music.

V: The hip hop music that I used to like are all well known songs and Rapmon hyung told me about traditional hip hop music. And since then I have fallen for it.

Jimin: You have to immerse yourself into hip hop and you can’t force yourself to like hip hop, thanks to the hyungs that I’ve naturally developed an interest in hip hop music. During the trainee days, there was a room called ‘Bangtan room’, I go there to listen to music, and have rap battles among us, and we dances, it was so fun.

Suga: I encountered music while I was 5th grade in elementary school. I started writing lyrics since 6th grade. I just thought that I have to make music.

“I was like an old lady

I had so much to say that is wasn’t enough with what other people told me.” – Hop Hop Lover

Ceci: I have read all the lyrics on this full album. I think it’s very novel-like.

Rapmon: It’s an occupation illness. I’m always trying to come up with interesting phrases. For example, there is a phrase “가지가지 한다 (doing various things) ” then I associates it with tress “가지가지 하다가 나무 되겠어 (I’m doing so many things, I’ve become a tree)” .

Suga: These wordplays are called punch line. Finding these elements here and there in the album is also fun to do.

Ceci: Rapmon and Suga are the key roles in making Bangtan’s music. The two of you are probably rivals with good intentions.

Suga: As I look at Rapmon, I realize a lot of things. It helped me to develop.

Rapmon: In hyung’s music, it shows a lot of his own tendency. He has a lot of freshness. As for me, my style is more detailed like the feeling of putting the puzzles together. We have our own styles so there’s a lot to learn from each other.

Ceci: Is there a song that is dedicated to the fans?

Rapmon: Officially there isn’t a fan song but we releases songs (that was written during the period) on anniversaries such as our 100th day and 1st anniversary.

Suga: Personally, I wrote “Miss Right” while thinking about our fans. For example, lyrics such as “whether you’re young or old”, “in between our couple shoes are a pair of baby sneakers”. Since I’m not good at expressing affections on a daily basis, so I write lyrics while thinking of the fans.

“I pulled all-nighters at practice rooms instead of school, dancing and singing

When you guys partied, I gave up sleep for my dreams

I spent all night holding a pen” – We Are Bulletproof Pt.2

Ceci: I’m curious of Bangtan’s school days.

Rapmon: I had many friends. I was active and I liked to be eye-catching (the centre of attention) and I was the class president.

Jin: People say that I was frivolous. And my appearance has changed a lot since then. I was a short, undersized kid. I started to grow taller in 2nd grade of secondary school.

Jimin: I was the same as Rapmon hyung. I like to receive attention, and I danced on the stage during the school’s festivals. I received quite a lot of attention during secondary school. It felt amazing. (Laughs)

V: I rampaged through the corridors. I felt lonely so there were always people around me.

Suga: I was a quiet student but I really liked basketball. And whenever I played basketball, a lot of (girls) juniors would come and watch.

Jungkook: I was playful and I didn’t study. I was an active kid that loved computer games. (Laughs)

Ceci: How does it feel to accomplish your dream at such a young age?

Rapmon: I’m the type that is not easily satisfied, I feel that “I have come so far, now I need to go on a bit further.” I’m giving myself a hard time, but this is my personality, so I would rather live intensely like this. (Ceci: so you’re a perfectionist.) If I was a perfectionist, I should be good at dancing too but I’m not. (Laughs)

J-Hope: When I say I’m tired, my friends who either attends university or are dancers asks me “but aren’t you doing something that you enjoy?” When I hear that, I feel grateful for what I have right now, at this position.

V: I always think that I need to work harder for members who are going through the hardship together.

“You always give short answers like yes, I’m sleeping, no

Your messages don’t exceed 10 bytes” – Intro: What Am I To You

Ceci: What is Bangtan’s Kakao chat room like?

Jimin: We upload many bizarre photos.

Jungkook: We also bet on who takes the funniest photos.

Jin: Usually, the three maknaes are always talking in there. It’s a maknae chatting room.

V: When a member is getting his hair dyed, I secretly take photos of him while he’s sleeping. I’m Bangtan’s Dispatch. Sometimes they even have funny expressions so please treat me well. (Laughs)

Suga: We also talk about important matters or things that we need to be beware of.

Ceci: Who is the noisiest member?

Jin: It always comes up Kim Tae Hyung, Kim Tae Hyung, Kim Tae Hyung.

Jungkook: Even if no one replies, he will still send it. (Laughs)

V: Me? I think it’s J-Hope hyung.

Rapmon: You two are the same.

Ceci: So who gives slow replies?

Jin: I have never seen Suga’s name coming up in the group chat.

Jimin: He will never reply when you say a joke. (Laughs)

Suga: Because I’m a bit blunt.

Ceci: If you look at the profile photo or status message, I think you will know who is who.

Suga: I don’t have a profile photo or status message.