cloudycleric
cloudycleric
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welcome to cloudycleric, i'm oliver hi hello oliver/ollie :) | he/him byler truther since 2019 #1 will byers fan | blond will byers 💕
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cloudycleric · 19 hours ago
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the duffers expecting us to think mike is straight but in the first season when mike is supposedly catching feelings for el troy says “she doesn’t even look like a girl”
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cloudycleric · 21 hours ago
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Day #11 of drawing Byler until the trailer drops
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cloudycleric · 23 hours ago
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The most obvious Byler proof is this Jancy - Byler parallel:
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Nancy not being able to say "I love you" to Steve
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And then going to Johnathan for comfort and advice
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Mike not being able to say "I love you" to El
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And then going to Will for comfort and advice
Not only that, the car scenes are very similar
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- sitting on a car
- soda
- Wheeler on (their) right
- Byers on (their) left
Byler endgame is real guys 😋
There is so much more proof btw and don't come at me with "Oh but Mike is straight!" Just search up "Mike Wheeler queercoding and watch the video by Lesbianmindflayer about it, you might have to pause to read tho, or there's also another video which is longer by someone else but I haven't seen it yet so can't say anything about it. You will see that he is so much more queercoded than Will himself, the canon (confirmed) gay character.
Heartmilheart out
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cloudycleric · 2 days ago
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Insane 😭
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cloudycleric · 2 days ago
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i've been sitting down writing my script on the first shadow for a little over 4 hours at this point & i'm still nowhere near finished. i have 8 pages so far. i am normal
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cloudycleric · 3 days ago
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Us acting surprised when they release Ep2's name as if we didnt know it was Holly Wheeler all along
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cloudycleric · 4 days ago
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just hit 7k words 🙌
i've been sitting down writing my script on the first shadow for a little over 4 hours at this point & i'm still nowhere near finished. i have 8 pages so far. i am normal
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cloudycleric · 4 days ago
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stranger things rewatch with the father begins
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cloudycleric · 4 days ago
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IM NORMAL IM NORMAL (i still have 3 theories to go over & explain & then a whole byler section because im norm
i've been sitting down writing my script on the first shadow for a little over 4 hours at this point & i'm still nowhere near finished. i have 8 pages so far. i am normal
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cloudycleric · 4 days ago
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it got so bad that my mother told me to get off the computer for my own sake & im an adult
i've been sitting down writing my script on the first shadow for a little over 4 hours at this point & i'm still nowhere near finished. i have 8 pages so far. i am normal
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cloudycleric · 4 days ago
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brain is melting out my ears i’m normal i normal im
i've been sitting down writing my script on the first shadow for a little over 4 hours at this point & i'm still nowhere near finished. i have 8 pages so far. i am normal
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cloudycleric · 4 days ago
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i've been sitting down writing my script on the first shadow for a little over 4 hours at this point & i'm still nowhere near finished. i have 8 pages so far. i am normal
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cloudycleric · 4 days ago
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Let's do a quick comparison of El's and Will's first and last scenes...
First shot of season 4:
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(El painting Hopper's figurine for her diorama vs Will making a romantic painting for Mike)
Last one on one scene of season 4:
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What we know of season 5:
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In conclusion, once again, El's personal arc is about family more than romance and her relationship with Hopper seems to be what the writers are focusing on. Will's arc is about romantic love and his feelings for Mike. This kinda spells out how the ending of the love triangle, don't you think? Why would the writers focus on those two pairings in the last season of the show if Mike and El are supposed to be this endgame power couple? Why did Mike promise to be a team and to kill Vecna with his best friend who's secretely in love with him instead of his superhero girlfriend? Where exactly is the supposed "main couple of the show"?
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cloudycleric · 4 days ago
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Something that I truly believe the GA just won't understand is how much Stranger Things can actually teach you.
Like, we have a plethora of diverse characters and no two people are the same.
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Will is a sensitive person, more so than ANY other character in the show. He cries, he likes to paint, and he loves EVERYONE even when they've hurt him. He's one of the characters who bears a lot of trauma, but he doesn't let it shape who he is. Will is DIAGNOSED with PTSD. God forbid he lets himself cry. He never gets angry at people because of what happened to him, and he always dismisses it if he's going through something. And his biggest problem is Mike 'We're friends. We're friends!' Wheeler.
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Joyce is a baddie. She doesn't need no man on her shoulder to be a good mother. When Will went missing, she fought tooth and nail to bring him home even when EVERYONE, even her eldest son, was calling her crazy. She's a leader and she's a character who has so much willpower and doesn't let anything stand in her way.
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At first glance, Jim is a fucking asshole. I didn't like him when the series was just starting out. But that's what makes it so good, because he wasn't an asshole for no reason. He lost his KID. And he was given a second chance with El. He can do it better this time and he's going to be there for her as long as he can help it. In season five, I'll expect them to be a separate team from the others. Which is what she deserves. She doesn't need to be with Mike to be an amazing character.
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Nancy, Joyce, Robin, and Max are all GREAT examples of women who can lead without some MAN telling them what to do. El can be the same. What she needs is the chance to be independent and learn about herself. Mike can't give her that. She needs to figure that out for herself.
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Billy was an asshole. Through and through. There was no excuse for him to be racist towards Lucas, even if he had a bad childhood. Just look at what Will went through, and he's still a fucking angel, so Billy literally has no excuse.
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The amount of feminism that Nancy projects is INSANE. She doesn't listen to anybody and when she has an idea she GOES FOR IT. When something bad happens? SHE GRABS A GUN. When someone says she should do something this specific way, it's BULLSHIT and she does it her own way. When the kids are in danger, she puts herself directly in the path of danger.
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Mike is one of the most complex characters in the show. He's a natural born leader and goes out of his way to save people. When he first met El, he didn't save her out of LOVE. He did it because he's a protector. Originally, he was going to send her back to the asylum and only let her stick around because she knew where WILL was. And that's what was important. Will. He was hellbent on finding him. In season five, I can GUARANTEE he won't be leaving Will's side. And the only time they'll be separated will probably be because Will is off his rocker this season and too busy fighting internal demons and disappearing all the time.
Because he's been reminded of what's important. And it's not El. She can protect herself. But we know Will can be vulnerable. He doesn't believe he's loved, and that's a good opportunity for Vecna to go after him. Only when he truly starts believing that he is loved will he find the courage to come into his own.
We have so many characters all with different backgrounds. We have mental health, domestic abuse, sexual assault, eating disorders, bullying, homophobia, anger issues, neglect, internalized homophobia, racism, and literal DEMONS FROM HELL.
But you're telling me the GA can't grasp something as simple as two boys falling in love? How emotionally dense do you have to be to be so ignorant?
If you're going to DNF the show just because of Byler, then I'm sorry but you smell like hotdog water and you've missed the entire point of the show. This is about not fitting in. Instead of the protagonists being some..chiseled jocks who are heroric and attractive, we instead have four weirdo nerds obsessed with a game. Four people who are smart as fuck and have been cast out from society and bullied for being different. Especially Will.
And the whole show centers around him. BECAUSE he's different. Growing up and feeling like you don't belong is one of the most difficult things I've ever had to go through. And as a fan of the show since the EARLY days of season one, I can't even begin to describe the happiness I feel when I see Will Byers.
He was not made for you. Will Byers belongs to the people who grew up as a misfit. He belongs to us who feel like mistakes in our own bodies and struggle keeping up with social norms.
Will Byers belongs to US. Not you.
If you have a problem with him because of Noah then I assume you're either a 12 year old who has spent too much time on a screen and not enough time touching grass or you're a 47 year old bald man who doesn't know what common courtesy is.
If you hate on Will just because he's gay then I'm sorry but Stranger Things is not the show for you. Try Riverdale instead. We do not want you here.
Stranger Things is not afraid to put homophobes and racists in their place. Troy pissed himself and suffered a broken arm. Steve got his face ruined and got a redemption arc. Billy literally fucking died. And they aren't afraid to put queers on a pedestal either. To make THEM the important characters. Instead of being sidelined, it's often the queers and the nerds and the people who don't fit in who are given the important roles.
And that's what Stranger Things is all about.
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Like it or not, Will is an important character. He deserves this time in the spotlight. When Byler is canon in season five, don't say we didn't warn you. We've been trying to open your eyes since season two.
Byler is the perfect representation of what a HEALTHY and ROMANTIC relationship looks like. Two people are so alike and are quite literally color coded through the whole series and are just so painfully gay for each other it HURTS.
Mil*ven is the perfect representation of what an UNHEALTHY and TOXIC relationship looks like. It's full of arguments, no heart to hearts, NO mutual respect, gaslighting, lying, and literally just zero chemistry.
Over and out.
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cloudycleric · 5 days ago
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If Mike clocked Will in the van scene, then this expression is him being like "but why? why are you making me do this?" :((((((((( okay thx
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cloudycleric · 5 days ago
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i love byler! hope i die
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cloudycleric · 5 days ago
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i love byler! hope i die
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