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I rewatched the movies with my boyfriend recently (and we’re partway through race to the edge now too) and I completely agree

Birds will regurgitate food to feed their young so assuming night furies work in any similar way, this tells me two things: that male night furies are active help in raising their young (which is corroborated by the little guys in the third movie), and trying to feed someone who is decidedly not your hatchling means that night furies have the inclination to maintain not only their families but unrelated companions as well, meaning, social creatures.

Toothless is also the only dragon who doesn’t stay overnight in the stables, opting to spend the nights with Hiccup in his house where all the other dragons are regularly seen sleeping in their pens in the stables.

Rewatching httyd and I think I’m realizing something about Nightfuries.

So, Toothless spits up half the fish that Hiccup gave him. A kind of act of goodwill to reciprocate Hiccup’s. He does it again later after Test Drive.

It’s not something other dragons do when say, feeding the queen, because a Gronkle does the same and gets eaten. Sure, it could just be that it wasn’t enough for the queen, but we also know something about Nightfuries.

They don’t take food. It’s in the opening dialogue about them.

If a Nightfury took nothing back to the queen, I’m sure they’d be eaten too. But Toothless shows up, somewhat late, with the first pack of dragons that attack the village.

I think he followed the dragons because they were flying somewhere together, not because he was under orders from the queen.

So I think Nightfuries are meant to be pack hunters. They work together and feed each other.

He bonds to Hiccup very fast, and even when he could kill Hiccup, he doesn’t. Like when Hiccup lets him go. Like the very first flight when Hiccup attaches just the tail fin.

And sure, we know that dragons can tell when you mean harm and have weapons, but the Monstrous Nightmare still almost killed Hiccup in the beginning despite being unarmed.

Anyways, based on this evidence, I think Nightfuries are meant to be pack hunters, and the fact they are solitary is a tragedy. They’ve been wiped out that it changes their entire ability to exist with other dragons.

(And for the little dragons that come and steal his food, they’re not part of his pack. That’s why he defends his food. It’s like a lion protecting food from hyenas.)

Edit: OH, AND it’s a great reason why he’s so adept at enforcing boundaries and keeping the peace between pack members. It’s innate. Like wolves, they have to manage everyone’s emotions and actively try to avoid fights and de-escalate.

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I have finished the first chapter! Have mercy on any mistakes, this is my 2nd fic I’ve written EVER and the first was when i was basically a baby ok… anyways here ya go

Gutterball AU: A dpxdc Fic

Chapter 1: All the King's Horses and All the King's Men…

*****

Danny drummed his fingers nervously on the long meeting table, bouncing his leg with impatience. Frostbite gave him a pitying look from the seat to his right.

“Do not worry Great One, the meeting will begin soon enough and you shall be free to do as you please afterwards, no training or duties for today. The preparations for your crowning are almost complete and the time is drawing near to us. Are you nervous about this? Or is it something else that ails you?”

Danny looked over at him with a quiet sigh upon his lips.

“No Frostbite, it’s fine, I’m just worried about tomorrow. 18th birthdays are a big deal to the living, and I haven’t heard what my parents are planning, only that it’s some “big secret surprise”. You know how they are with surprises, I just hope this one doesn’t come to life and eat me, or have some ghost-proof element to it. Whatever it is, it can’t possibly be worse than last year I guess.”

He remembered his 17th birthday party with a shudder. The “Fenton Anti-Ecto Birthday Candles” had filled the room with an awful smell, almost like a dead skunk with a dash of nauseatingly sweet vanilla. Not to mention his gift, the “Fenton Ghost-Proof Bean Brewer”, which was a coffee maker with a filter infused with… something… that didn’t actually harm ghosts but did make the coffee have a bizarre aftertaste and a strange glow that was certainly off-putting enough to keep a ghost (or anyone sane) from wanting a second sip.

He looked around the room as the Ghost Council filed in and took their places around the table. Danny was seated at the head of the table, his back to one of the two grand doors, this one guarded by Fright Knight and his trusty steed. To his right sits Frostbite, Dorathea, and Nocturn. To his left sits Wulf, Clockwork, Pandora, and Undergrowth. At the opposite head of the table sit 3 of the Observants, whispering between each other, huddled over their notes. Next to the second grand door, near the Observants, was a small black table covered in boxes wrapped with glowing ribbons. Danny wondered for a moment what that was about when a gavel bang rang out from across the room.

“Greetings ghosts and ghouls of the court! I am the Grand Observer, as you should all well know by now, and these two are my Great Secretaries.”

Danny withheld an eye-roll. The two Great Secretaries bowed slightly beside the Grand Observer, then had a seat.

“As was stated in our last meeting, the focus of this meeting will be to go over the list of kingly milestones and to vote on whether or not our young king is ready to take the throne. Any other festivity related conversation shall take place afterwards. If the king is ready, let us begin.”

All eyes in the room shifted to Danny, and he felt a nervous churn in his stomach.

“I guess I’m as ready as I’ll ever be, let’s proceed.”

The standing Observant gave a nod, then pulled out a long glowing scroll wrapped in red ribbon. This was the same scroll the council had made together with Danny years ago, after the defeat of Pariah Dark. Danny had not been ready for kingly duties yet, and overwhelmed with responsibilities that he didn’t even know he was getting, he had set off for the already established council for assistance. They worked to set a list of goals for Danny, things that he needed to achieve before he would take up the crown. Danny had been training hard, and the last goal in sight was his 18th birthday. One could hardly be a good ruler if they weren’t even an adult, could they?

“The first on our list of goals is independent portal opening. Wulf, can you confirm this to be a goal well achieved?”

Wulf stood from his place next to Danny, puffing his chest out proudly.

“Danny atingis la celon fiksitan fare de la konsilio. Liaj portaloj funkcias perfekte!” [Esperanto: Danny achieved the goal set by the council. His portals work perfectly!]

Wulf sat back down after a nod from the Observant.

“May the council see a demonstration from his highness? For confirmation?”

Danny let his eyes roll this time. He stood quietly and faced the grand door behind him. Reaching out, he did just as Wulf had taught him, focusing on where he wanted the portal to lead and carving through the air with a glowing hand. The space around the line he cut sagged, like a curtain splitting apart in the wind. Behind the wispy cloth-like folds in reality that he held apart, a green portal swirled vibrantly.

The members of the council clapped lightly, like he had shown them a magic trick. Dispelling the portal, Danny sat down.

“What next on the list? Let’s hurry this along, I’ve got ghosts to catch and birthday plans to make.”

The Grand Observer pulled out a very goofy looking pen, with a small pink eye on the end and glittery strings dangling off of it. He drew a huge check next to the goal on his list.

“The next goal set by the council was to learn to properly wield the Ring of Rage. Pandora, what say you on the completion of this goal?”

Pandora stood from her seat.

“I have worked hard to train our young king to control the rage brought on by the ring. He has made lovely progress towards this goal, and I deem him fit to wield the power of the ring. I have no doubt he will wield it far better than our past king.”

With that she sat down, smiling towards Danny warmly. The Grand Observer checked the box and moved on.

“Our third goal here is to establish a higher level of ghostly knowledge, so that our king may understand those he rules with confidence. Frostbite, your comments on this goal?”

Frostbite stood, his chair squeaking loudly behind him as it was pushed back.

“Our weekly lessons have gone lovely, and I can assure you I have done my best to teach The Great One as much as our time would allow. He has passed our little exams with flying colors. I deem this goal achieved.”

Frostbite patted Danny’s arm as he sat back down. The Observer marked the goal achieved just like before.

“Last, but certainly not least, is the goal of adulthood. Today marks the last day this goal shall remain unachieved, and tomorrow our young king celebrates his 18th year. Given that all goals will be reached by then, the council wishes to hold the crowning ceremony as soon as possible, one day after the birthday of our highness. To any that would object, speak now or forever hold your peace.”

The room is silent for a few moments before the Grand Observer continues again.

“With that being said, let us move on to more festive conversations. Your Highness, it has come to my attention that many members of the council wish to impart with you gifts and well wishes. Please observe the table by the door and see these gifts.”

Danny perked up at that, standing and floating towards the table with a surprised smile on his face and a light blush of green dusting his cheeks and ears.

“Aww you guys got me birthday presents? You didn’t have to, that’s so sweet of you!”

He looked at the one closest to him on the table. It was wrapped neatly, with a tag that said ‘To: The Great One, From: Frostbite, Do not lift’ in very neat handwriting. Danny pulled the ribbon off and carefully unwrapped the box without lifting it. Inside was a cake box with a clear top, a bright green cake with the Phantom logo in black surrounded by pretty white and black piping shown through the film.

“Frostbite! You made me a cake?!? Wh- thank you…”

Danny’s voice softened and he looked touched. Frostbite simply smiled back at him.

“Of course, what is a birthday without cake? Since we cannot be with you on your actual birthday, why not make one for us to share today? It’s my own recipe, complete with ecto-cream frosting! Open the others and we can all dig in and have a slice.”

Not needing to be asked twice, Danny excitedly eyed a smaller present. This one was from Clockwork. Unwrapping and opening the little box, he found a watch. The band was plain black leather, the dials and numbers glowed like uranium, but the watch face was the real surprise. An image of the night sky swam across it, almost like it was reflecting from above him in a pool of water. He could see every star brightly, as if on a cloudless night. He looked up at Clockwork, shock and awe painting his expression.

“It is a reflection of the night sky, as it would have looked on the day you were born. I hope it serves you well, it should help you keep track of time even in the Zone where time can be a little… odd.”

Danny smiled warmly as he put the watch on his wrist. His core buzzed with happiness, a quiet rumble settling in his chest.

“Thank you, this is one of the coolest gifts anyone has ever given me! How did you even manage to do this?!”

Clockwork just smiled back at him, shrugging his shoulders.

“I have my ways.”

Danny laughed at that and moved to the next box. This box was fairly large, and wider than the cake box. The box was from Dorathea, Undergrowth, and Wulf. The tag read ‘Dora taught us a new skill while we waited for meetings to begin the past few months. I hope these are to your liking - Undergrowth’.

After opening the box the first item was a scarf. It was a medium green, with little forest green spikes knitted into it. He could tell the knitter was inexperienced, with some of the stitches being uneven, but a very solid attempt overall. This one was clearly Undergrowth's work.

Under the scarf was a pair of socks, black with a little white ghost knitted into the sides. The knitting was much messier on these but it was obvious that the one making it did so with much care. Looking up, Danny could see Wulf blush and turn his head, tail swishing behind him.

The last item in the box was a light green, almost white sweater. In the center it had the Phantom logo knitted in black, and the sweater had a slight glow to it, almost like the glow in the dark stars on the ceiling in his room. Speaking of stars, a few tiny black stars were stitched on it, seemingly randomly. Dora spoke up as Danny looked over to her.

“I learned to knit things with a special ectoplasmic yarn, if you get a tear in it it should heal back together itself. I tried to mimic a constellation with the stars but I’m not sure it comes across well… I hope you like it nonetheless.”

She smiled sheepishly at him. Danny put the sweater on immediately. It was a little loose on him, but it was a pleasant amount of oversized.

“I’ll cherish it Dora, and thank you two as well. Y’all are really trying to butter me up today, huh?”

Danny looked at the last present as the others giggled behind him. Picking it up, he could see it was from Pandora. He turned to her with a mischievous grin.

“It’s certainly not everyday I get to open Pandora’s box, is it?”

Pandora just scoffed fondly at him as he opened it. Inside was a silver chain, long and thin.

“Once you become our king, you will carry the Ring of Rage around with you wherever you go. I made this chain so that you could hold it safely and securely around your neck without needing to feel the rings rage all the time. I hope it is handy to you, let me know if you need more links added or removed.”

Danny could feel his core thrum happily from all the attention and gifts. He wasn’t expecting so much from the council, much less a whole table of gifts. His ears felt warm and his face hurt from smiling. He could see the Observants looking tired and uninterested in the corner however.

“Thank all of you so much, I won’t hold you here if you have something else to be doing, but if you’d like, stick around and let’s cut into this cake shall we? This meeting is adjourned.”

A gavel rang out from seemingly nowhere at this proclamation. The Observants eagerly rushed out the door, with Nocturn, Undergrowth and Pandora following behind a bit slower, polite goodbyes on their lips as they excused themselves to get back to work. The others gathered around the small table, lining up to take a slice of Frostbites homemade birthday cake. Cutting himself a big slice, Danny sat back down at the table. The others joined him, pulling their chairs closer than they were during the meeting.

Frostbite hummed happily at them, clearly pleased that others were enjoying his cake. Danny took a bite, the icing tasted like ectoplasm with a pleasant hint of coffee. It was a chocolate coffee cake, his favorite flavors combined to make the ultimate dish.

“How did you know what flavor of cake I like? I don’t remember telling you, but this is definitely my favorite.”

“Miss Sam, the living girl, told me once when we were discussing her unique food preferences. She had mentioned your fondness for chocolate, and that she presumed you got it from your father, perhaps like a milder form of his great love of fudge.”

Danny blushed in embarrassment at the thought.

“I don’t think anyone could like chocolate or fudge as much as dad does. It’s like a personality trait and not a preference at that point.”

Frostbite nodded in agreement, finishing up his own slice of cake.

“I appreciate all you’ve done for me, not just today but the last few years. Thank you for mentoring me in all things ghostly, dunno what I would do without my walking breathing copy of a dummies guide to the afterlife.”

Danny winked and chuckled at his own joke. Frostbite just rolled his eyes fondly. They finished up with their plates, returning them to the table with the others. Danny pulled Frostbite off to the side for a private word as the others filed out and slowly said their goodbyes.

“Was there something you needed from me, Great One?”

“I’ve done some thinking and talking with my friends and Jazz, and I wanted to let you know that since I’ll be a legal adult tomorrow, I plan on telling my parents soon… about the whole “I died but not really and you’ve been hunting me like an animal for years” thing. Now that I’m (almost) 18 I don’t have to worry about being stuck under their roof if they reject me, but I worry what their reaction will be. I’m telling you just in case, if I don’t make it to meetings in the near future you may need to send in the cavalry haha…hah.”

Frostbite looked at him with alarm. He took on a serious tone and put his hand protectively on Danny’s shoulder.

“Great One, I should hope their reaction will be a positive one, but have you somewhere to go in the living realm if not? What if they are… less than peaceful about it? What will you do?”

“I’ll do what I’ve been doing all along, I’ll run. What else is there to do? I can’t hurt them in retaliation, even if they are idiots, they are my parents. Besides, I can room with Jazz for a bit if I need to. She’s gone off to Gotham University to get her psychology degree and she’s staying in the dorms there. Surely she wouldn’t mind for a bit? She knows about my plans and I’ve had a go bag ready for the past 4 years, just in case. I’m tired of running, and if this means I can have a break from being hunted I’ll take that chance.”

Frostbite just sighed and nodded. He knew very well the stress Danny’s secret half put him under. Time after time, he would find Danny crawling through a portal to his realm, seeking treatment for wounds inflicted by his own unknowing parents. He could see the toll it took on him with every cut and bruise, every bullet wound and burn mark.

“I will check in with you frequently this week then. Do not hesitate to come to Far Frozen if you have need of my assistance, or even just to talk. I support your decision, and I hope for your safety. Please do be careful. I must be heading back now, I have some patients to attend to.”

Danny nodded, and said goodbye with a tight hug. Frostbite left out the grand door behind them and then it was just him in the meeting room. He gathered his new gifts and opened a portal to the area behind the Nasty Burger, closing it behind him. His phone buzzed in his pocket, having reconnected to its signal now that he was out of the zone.

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TuckAndFoldy: hey dude, did you ever figure out what your parents were planning for your bday? I know they invited me to the party but it makes me a biiiiit nervous not knowing what to expect about this “surprise” of theirs yknow

GothicGhostieGal: i haven’t heard anything new either, just the invite

HalfaMyHeart: nope, just got done with the council meeting. they gave me birthday gifts!!!

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TuckAndFoldy: WHOA the watch!! are the stars moving?!?!

HalfaMyHeart: sorta, it’s the sky from the day I was born, isn’t it neat?

GothicGhostieGal: is that sweater glowing? SWEET i need me one of those, but maybe with more black

GothicGhostieGal: how did the meeting go otherwise? Did the Observants give you trouble again this time?

HalfaMyHeart: nah, it went pretty smoothly actually. I told Frostbite about telling mom and dad afterwards tho. I think he took it well

TuckAndFoldy: that’s good. wanna come over and spend your last day as a “kid” playing some Immoral Combat? sounds like you’re gonna be a busy adult pretty soon lol, might be the last chance we get for a while. Sam too?

GothicGhostieGal: I’ll kick your asses in IC any day of the week, adult or not >:)

HalfaMyHeart: oh you’re ON

~~~

Danny put his phone away, transforming out of his ghost form and tucking his new belongings into his backpack. He headed off to Tucker’s house, excitement in his steps. One more day, and then things would be so much different.

*****

Commissioner Gordon rubbed at his temples as he watched the firemen put out the fire in the practically melting dumpster behind the Astral Lanes building. He turned to the officer to his right.

“Hold down the fort here for me. I need to make a call.”

He only hoped the Bat could figure this mess out before every dumpster in this hell hole of a city was in blazes.

:)

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Hood assistant

Contrary to popular belief, Red Hood wasn't actually a bad boss, Danny could attest to that. After all, thanks to a guy named Bill, he had gotten a job with the Crime Lord, and although he initially feared being assigned to kill or do "shady" activities, his boss actually reassigned him to his assistant.

So yes, Danny now worked directly under Hood's personal assistant, a very attractive man by the name of Jason, but the other goons warned him that it was very likely that he was dating Hood, with the amount of time they spent together so he didn't have to much hope with his crush.

In summary: Danny fell in love with Jason, but he thinks that Jason is dating Red Hood because of comments from the goons and he doesn't want to be "the third wheel" or for Jason to cheat on the crime lord with him, on the other hand Red Hood started flirting with him too and it's getting incredibly frustrating how unfaithful this couple is.

Meanwhile, Jason just wishes the guy would understand his signals, maybe the flowers aren't enough, he doesn't realize he's sending signals like Red Hood too.

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So, I used to be apart of the Maribat/ Mlb x DC crossover fandom years back. And now I'm in the DC x DP fandom.

And let me tell you, my experiences between the two crossover fandoms could not have been any more different. These fandoms are literally on the opposite ends of the spectrum of DC crossover fics.

Here are my observations:

DC x DP (Danny Phantom)

Very Sweet. There's not a lot of hate for any of the characters most of the time.

Less romance, more found family + growing friendships

A whole lot less flanderisation of certain characters' personalities (in a way that's not overwhelming)

MLB (Miraculous Ladybug) x DC

Salt. Salt EVERYWHERE. There's so much salt it's dehydrating to read especially if you're a fan of certain characters. If you're an Adrien or an Alya fan, proceed with some caution, some fics don't tag who they're bashing/salting on. You could be reading a fic that you assume has Adrien & Marinette being wholesome friends but then get slapped with Adrien being an ooc spineless jerk/pervert to Marinette.

More romance oriented. Not to say there isn't found family because there certainly is but maribat definitely leans more into romance.

In certain salt fics, the characters are seriously flanderised to the point they're not even recognisable anymore. Adrien is the main victim of this along with Alya. Like some of y'all did Alya DIRTY. Adrien still got the worst of it though. And on the DC side of things, Damian is a little too sweet.

They do have one thing for certain in common when it comes to fics and that is that the Justice League had no clue that these teen superheroes are literally carrying a world-sized burden on their shoulders with no to very little adult guidance in their lives and honestly: my fave trope EVER! Mlb x DC fandom, continue to beat up Green Lantern for ignoring LB's calls for help. That shit is delicious.

I got a lot of criticisms for Maribat fics, especially on AO3. Authors please, for the love of all things Fandom, TAG WHO YOU'RE BASHING.

I used to like Adrien/Alya bashing fics back then but I've given them a lot of thought, especially since I began thinking about Adrien/Alya's characterisation and personalities and how some of these fics really butcher the characters. Which then just made me fall out of love with Maribat. The Fandom is too salty for me. Its unhealthy to have that much salt content in your system guys.

Anyway, just some observations and some criticisms I wanted to talk about regarding these two very different yet quite similar DC crossover fandoms.

To the Danny Phantom guys, keep doing what you're doing, you guys are amazing <3

To the Miraculous Ladybug guys, TAG YOUR SHIT

- From your resident AdriDamiNette shipper and Ghost King Danny Phantom, adopted son of Jason Todd or Lex Luthor enthusiast

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An Elle, because I was d e e p in art block and she was the only thing I could think of to draw

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Danny decided to investigate the flash

So danny was doing the usual, helping clockwork maintain thw time stream and collecting nick nacks for jazz, sam and tucker

He was about to go back to his time when he saw it

It was another creature travelling through the tume stream

It was moving fast, and before danny could stop them they spead off to their time, which according to danny estimates was 300-400 years in the future

Danny mentions this to clockwork and gets the green light to investigate the being in the timestream...and mess with him a little

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Meanwhile 300-400 years in the future flash was desperately calling a JL meeting to tell them about the terrifying and ominous being he saw in the time stream

Was it a bad omes of things to come

Was it another time travelling threat

Or was it just barry pranking them again

Needless to say when 2 weeks later everyone in the JLD and john Constantine called a meeting to discuss the terrifying and ancient being that just entered their universe some apologies were owes to the flash

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DPxDC cheat sheet

So. I'm not a nitpicking person. I understand that mistakes can be made and typos are a thing and sometimes we are just not the kind of person that can make words work for a variety of reasons (dyslexia, for example).

This is not for that people. This is not an attack.

This is for everyone who stumbled into this fandom by mistake and had learned things via osmosis and don't have the energy/time to check the source material for the "correct" thing.

Y'all are valid.

This is a cheat sheet of correct terms and fandom things that are not correct that I've seen in fics.

Disclaimer: while experimenting with canon is fun, this is just to lay down the rules of what's what so it can be the springboard of y'all's beautiful creations.

[Will add more when I think more/have suggestions]

DP SIDE

Sam is Jewish

It's "Jasmine" not "Jazmine".

It's "Amity Park" not "Amity Ville".

Wes is fanon, same as Kyle. Info on Wes here

It's "Casper High", not "Caspar High".

Mr. Lancer doesn't have a canon name. Common fanon ones are William or Edward.

Ghost obsessions are fanon.

Same with ghost cores, which are fanon-ish (there is a mention that Danny's ice powers come from his "core" and is never addressed again, of course) (Episode is "Urban Jungle").

Danny beats the Ghost King Pariah Dark in combat, but faints and that fight is never addressed in the series again. Ghost King!Danny is fanon-ish so go ham with interpreting that. (Episode is "Reign Storm")

DC SIDE

Damian (not Damien or Demian) is never confirmed his religion. Fanon has accepted he is Muslim.

Bruce is from a Jewish family (Martha Wayne was Jewish), but he considers himself an atheist. Same with Kate Kane (Batwoman).

It's "Selina" Kyle, not "Selena" or "Salina".

It's "Talia" Al Ghul, not "Thalia".

It's "Jason", not "Jayson".

Damian is vegetarian, not vegan. It means he doesn't eat meat, but eats animal produces like eggs, milk, etc. He went vegetarian after rescuing Batcow from a slaughterhouse.

Duke is NOT adopted. Bruce is fostering him temporarily and is more of a mentor to him than a father. Duke considers the others his siblings, though.

Dick was not adopted as a kid. Bruce was his foster parent. Adoption happened later in Dick's adulthood.

It's Gotham, not "Gothem".

Cassandra IS adopted. Legally.

Cassandra's nickname is "Cass", not "Cassie". Cassie is the nickname of another character also named Cassandra (Cassandra Sandsmark, Wondergirl)

"Little Wing" is a canon nickname for Jason from Dick.

"Baby bird" or "Baby bat" are completely fanon. But people like to use them to refer to Tim and Damian, respectively.

Stephanie Brown was the 4th Robin. She is not adopted, and was part of the batfamily because she was dating Tim. She is still considered batfamily even if they are not dating anymore.

In Hush, when Jason comes back to Gotham, Jason puts a knife on Tim's throat, but barely leaves a cut. Tim's throat wasn't injured during the Titans Tower attack.

Cass is selectively mute because she wasn't taught any language beyond what she needed to predict people's movements. She doesn't know sign language. She doesn't know how to read and write. But she could learn, with difficulty.

Jason's "Pit Madness" is fanon. Canon offers Ra's saying "the Pit alters the mind - could happen for a few days or for years, you never now" or something like that, and that's it. There is reason to believe that the Lazarus Pit can cloud judgement for a while but there is no voice in the back of the head or the Pit taking over.

Interesting links:

How to pronounce Ra's Al Ghul

What's fanon in DP

BatPham ship names (updated regularly).

What are the canon ages of the Batfam?

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Suggestions are welcome! Please be kind with each other and remember to have fun with this fandom!

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Alright I think I’ve seen a couple smaller versions of this in bits and pieces so if you have them please share, but I figured that as someone familiar with neither show initially I’m in a good position to do a DPxDC onboarding post!

Since neither source material is particularly helpful in understanding the madness we have created, here is what I consider important to know for each (please add in with anything I miss!)

Danny Phantom (DP)

Main Characters

Danny Fenton - is a Phantom. Died as a teenager by accidentally activating his parents’ portal to the Ghost Zone/Infinite Realms but was also revived, becoming a half ghost half human (halfa)

Is the only superhero in Amity Park, fighting ghosts and sometimes ghost hunters to keep humans safe from ghosts and ghosts safe from humans

Has beaten the Ghost King in single combat, and is therefore sometimes considered to be the new Ghost King

Jazz (Jasmine) Fenton - Danny’s older sister, basically his parent, very into psychology and very against the influence their actual parents have had on Danny due to their obsession with ghosts

May/may not know about Phantom, usually considered the Mom Friend of Team Phantom whether she knows or not

Jack Fenton - Danny’s dad, 6’9 koolaid man, loves ham and fudge and breaking through walls instead of the door beside him. A very bad shot but extremely enthusiastic in that 90s dad cartoon way

Prone to believe absolutely anybody but Danny is a ghost, especially when Danny does ghost things in proximity

Extremely intent on the destruction of all ghosts, convinced they do not have actual feelings and should be destroyed pre Phantom reveal. Afterwards, can be either accepting or homicidal towards Danny

Maddie Fenton - Danny’s mom, ridiculous kung fu warrior and engineer, madly in love with Jack and they are sickeningly cute all times except Christmas

Sometimes notices they have kids that need caring for, sometimes curbs Jack’s wilder impulses, she’s the brains of the team

Same ghost views as Jack, but she’s more perceptive and intelligent, which can be used for good or evil

Tucker Foley - Danny’s best friend, likes meat and technology and arguing with Sam

A Black young man with a signature red beret and PDA in the OG show, usually acknowledged to be on par with the bats’ technical skills as he’s an incredible hacker

Danny’s Guy In The Chair, but he will get out of his chair and throw down as needed

Sam Manson - Danny’s Obligatory 90s Cartoon Love Interest, goth and ultra-recyclo-vegetarian child of millionaires who will not be stopped in her crusade for justice

She’s the one who dared Danny to go into the portal that killed him, the guilt she carries for this varies

She is in combat as much as her humanity allows, but also in a support role most of the time

Dash Baxter - Danny’s Obligatory 90s Cartoon Bully, the usual blond beefy jock. Can be surprisingly sensitive and intelligent, probably from being tutored by Jazz

Wes Weston - Does Not Exist In Canon. We made him up because Danny had a bracelet that was supposed to say Sam but was shown backwards all episodes so it just says Wes

Knows that Danny is Phantom, INTENT on telling absolutely everyone, and is never believed

Vlad Masters/Plasmius - the only older halfa in the show, and one of Danny’s main villains. A billionaire who went to college with the Fenton parents and was slowly killed after exposure to the first trial portal

Blames Jack for his exposure and is obsessed with stealing Maddie from him and marrying her himself as he believes should have always happened

Her opinion does not factor into this, and she largely treats him with disdain but tempered for her husband, who adores Vlad unequivocally

Dani/Ellie Masters - a girl clone of Danny made by Vlad, the only clone who survived melting into goo. Vlad raised her to try and kill Danny so he could perfect a different boy clone, and kept her isolated

Now that she’s met Danny and been stabilised by him, they are siblings/cousins/besties but she can’t stay in one place, because she wants to experience the whole world

Frostbite - King of the Far Frozen, which is part of the Ghost Zone full of ice. He’s a yeti, and has the zone’s only functional medical facility

Reveres Danny as the Great One, Saviour of the Ghost Zone, and taught him how to use his ice powers

Clockwork - Master of Time, tends to show up in a purple hooded robe with a clock around his neck and rapidly cycle through ages and speak in riddles

Sometimes communicates by leaving green stick notes on things, but never with a direct answer. Considered Danny’s mentor and sends Danny on adventures through time to preserve the time stream

Notably involved in the whole Dan Phantom fiasco

Dan Phantom - an older version of Danny from the future where Danny’s ghost half was removed from his human half, stole Vlad’s ghost half, and destroyed the world because Danny’s whole family and friends were killed in front of him

They were all together to be killed as part of an intervention when Danny was caught cheating on a test. This gives Danny understandable issues about how easily he could go bad and destroy the world

Skulker - an early recurring baddie who is a Kraven the Hunter knockoff, considers himself the Ghost Zone’s best hunter and wants Danny’s pelt for his wall

Actually a tiny little guy inside the helmet of a big mechanised suit, rarely a serious threat

Ember - a young ghost musician who can hypnotise people with her music, craves an audience and another early recurring villain

Dates Skulker I guess

Johnny 13 and Shadow - ghost biker boy and his sentient shadow familiar, dated Danny at some point, but in a permanent ongoing relationship with Kitty

They usually only cause trouble when they fight, break up, wreak havoc, and then eventually get back together

Kitty - once Overshadowed Paulina the generic Pretty Girl to date Danny to get back at Johnny for their break up

She wanted to be a lawyer before she and Johnny were killed in a wreck, sometimes implied to have been caused on purpose by her father

She and Johnny are often Danny’s allies, against other ghosts if necessary

Important Terms

Core - a small glowing orb that houses all a ghost’s memories, thoughts, emotions, and vital organs. Can correspond to an element, granting elemental powers after some intense ghost puberty

Requires ectoplasm to form and be maintained

Obsession - ghosts are powered by their emotions at death and an Obsession, usually what makes them become a ghost instead of passing on in the first place

Danny’s Obsession is usually Protection, Space, or both

Vlad’s Obsession is Maddie, and acquiring Danny as a son once he learns Danny is a halfa too

Dani’s Obsession is Travel

Halfa - half a ghost, half a human, with the ability to transform between human and ghost forms (usually characterised as a colour inversion of hair and clothes)

Powers are basically Everything That Would Be Funny, because it’s a Saturday morning cartoon

Vlad’s specifically include electrocution, duplicating up to thousands of himself, invisibility, intangibility, hand lasers, super strength, healing, and mind control

Danny’s include ice, strength, bendy noodle body, put self in video game, hand lasers, heat vision, ghostly wail (big ol sonic scream, bad for the throat), duplication, teleportation, and literally anything else that was fun for the episode in question

All ghosts seem to get invisibility, intangibility, flight, telekinesis, and ectobeams (lasers from various body parts)

Overshadowing - similar to possession, when a ghost takes over someone else’s body, gaining access to core memories if they look

Sometimes different from possession specifically and considered less invasive, but still invasive. Danny does not like doing this

DC (Disregard Canon apparently)

Main Characters

Listen I’m not doing all of them so HOEDOWN STYLE I GUESS

Alfred Pennyworth - best Batman character, super butler, makes the best cookies

Bruce Wayne - Batman, may/may not be good batdad

Dick Grayson - Robin 1, responsible for pantsless Robin and excessive flips, grows up to be Nightwing

Jason Todd - fandom woobie, Robin 2, tried to steal the tires off the Batmobile and hit Bruce with a tire iron, killed by Joker, came back evil and thicc as Red Hood and nearly killed Robin 3

Has the Bad Juice in him cuz of being brought back from the dead so he has Pit Rage, which most people apparently only get for a little bit and then either die or go permanently insane

Tim Drake - Robin 3, abandoned rich kid who blackmailed Bruce into letting him be Robin after Jason died, because Jason was his hero and Tim thinks Batman needs a Robin to stay sane. He’s right, but was Robin-fired basically as soon as Damian showed up, is Red Robin now

Never sleeps, overcaffeinated at all times, a better detective than Bruce and a supervillain in basically every AU

Used to be bi but is legally gay now apparently

Stephanie Brown - girl Robin, far superior as Spoiler and Bat Girl, sassy bitch who tells Bruce to fuck off the most of all the Robins ever and this is an Achievement she must fight for constantly but always wins

Cassandra Cain - assassin baby of Lady Shiva, not taught to talk by her dad cuz he sucks, semi- or nonverbal and deadass supernaturally good at reading people

Decided that killing was bad actually the first time she did it so fuck assassins she’s Black Bat/Batgirl/Orphan now and she does not have mouth holes in her mask

Damian Wayne - Consequences from Bruce’s playboy slut days, he knocked up supervillain Talia Al Ghul and thus this bab was raised by assassins and thinks stabbing siblings is an acceptable greeting

Likes the animals and is secretly soft but will fucking kill you before he admits it

Duke Thomas - Criminally Underused, older than Damian but babiest bat as the Signal, Gotham’s only daytime hero and only meta hero. Second Black hero cuz Lucius Fox exists and so does his son

Never a Bruce-appointed Robin but was trained by 4 previous Robins (no idea where Steph was for this) simultaneously, swears as much as Jason but has living parents sometimes so that’s wild

Kate Kane - Batwoman, definitely fucks

Luke Fox - I think he is Lucius’ son, Lucius made all the bat tech but Luke is going to punch bad guys directly, has a hero name probably that might be fox related

Diana Prince - Wonder Woman, an Amazonian warrior who fucks with Cronos I guess

Donna Troy - I have never fucking seen her in dpxdc but she is Wonder Girl I think and she also fucks

Clark Kent - Superman but also a nerd, treats his clone badly and will never be forgiven

Connor Kent/Kon El - said clone, made by Lex Luthor from Superman’s and Luthor’s DNA because what says hate like making a baby! Mistreating that baby and reminding him he’s meant to be a weapon

Deserves all the love and sometimes his powers don’t work because cloning is hard

Jon Kent - Superman’s son with Lois Lane, got all his dad’s powers but apparently not his mom’s cuz he is still a himbo

Lois Lane - the world’s scariest reporter who will make all corrupt officials quail because you can’t fucking threaten her, she will tell you to go fuck yourself and if you try and shoot her Superman catches the bullet

Barry Allen - the Flash, does not believe in ghosts even though he can run so fast he travels in time so he’s clearly the arbiter of what makes sense

But I guess you can’t catch him to tell him he’s wrong so

Hal Jordan - Green Lantern, Space Ho

Lex Luthor - surprising dad energy for a bald supervillain who hates aliens (blame halfagone)

John Constantine - super thot and mage, will sell his soul to anyone who offers to gain immortality because no one can decide who gets to keep his soul so they just spite reviving him

Has the actual worst luck and finds out just slightly more than he fucks around but he hasn’t died yet so it’s working

Zatanna - magic lady who does spells by saying words backwards, the competent adult

Boston - Deadman, an Actual Fucking Ghost Member Of The Justice League, What The Fuck Flash This Is Workplace Harassment

Cannot be seen or heard without magical assistance, so way less of a problem than Danny Phantom ghosts

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Guys who say tch vs guys who say lol

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One plus one

“This can’t be normal…”

“Jason, you’re a halfa, nothing is normal.”

Jason threw a bird as he continued to study the mirror.

There was a lump on his stomach. It wasn’t there last week.

Call him paranoid but the last time he wasn’t ended with him in a box.

Danny snickered from his perch on Jason’s bed.

“You know if something is really bothering you than we can go visit Frostbite? It’s kind of his whole deal to make sure we don’t croak again.”

Jason grimaced as he pressed the toilet’s flush with his foot.before entering his bedroom and flopping onto the bed.

“Sure, who doesn’t enjoy getting lectures from yetis? It’s probably just a resurgence of the pit. And extra can of liquid lime jello a day and I’ll be good.”

“You say that now, but last time it was you flame core coming in.”

Jason grimaced,

“I’m aware.”

“You burned down a safe house. Jason, you’re no longer human. You need to remember that it’s never nothing wit-“

Danny let out a sharp yelp as he felt a harsh kick send him to the floor. Getting up, he sent a glare at the snickering vigilante before letting out a sigh,

“I’m just saying it’s better to get this checked out before it becomes a problem.”

“If it will calm your nerves than we can visit tomorrow, now get over here. I have patrol in a couple hours and I demand compensation.”

“Compensation?” He snickered as he slid into the older boy’s arms. “Compensation for what?”

“The lectures I’m going to have to deal with tomorrow. Now shut up dumbass.”

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Jason was in shock.

He had to be because there’s no way that Frosty just said-

“-quite remarkable Jason! Usually when it comes to procreation ghosts have challenges to produce one child-“

Triplets.

‘That’s three..’

“Holy shit.”

Like actually how??

Jason couldn’t even remember when the last time he slept with someone let alone bottomed.

Glancing over to Danny he could see that he was trying to do math as well.

“I don’t- how?”

Frostbite gave him a confused look,

“Young Jason? What do you mean?”

“I mean how? I haven’t had sex since I met Danny.”

“Ahh, you are thinking of human procreation. When it comes to ghosts they really only need to have a strong wish for children and have their body and haunt in a proper state to carry. Add the fact that you have been in prolonged contact with the Great One probably caused the quantity.”

Fucking hell Desiree..

“So they’re mine?” Danny asked,

“As far as I’m aware. Congratulations you two on your hauntlings! Now with the sheer number you are a caring Jason I think it it best that we talk about what you should expect-“

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“Jason talk to me babe.”

“Talk? What is there to talk about? I’m fine, you’re fine, the babies are fine. Everything is fine.”

Danny hummed as he floated above the kitchen.

“You say that but you’re stress baking.”

“We were out of snacks.”

“You’re making a cheesecake at five in the morning.”

Jason slammed his rolling pin a bit more aggressively into the gram crackers before turning around.

“Fine! You know what? I’m stressed, I admit it! We’re not in a stable place here! We’re two 23 year olds who live in crime alley! The Anti-Ecto acts just got brought down. You’re going to college and I’m a vigilante crime lord!”

Jason furiously rubbed his palm into his eye before releasing a long breath,

“It’s just- really hitting right now.” He slid down the cabinet to the tile, “Fuck we’re having kids.”

Danny lightly floated to the floor before gently leaning into the taller man.

“Hey, you’re thinking about this like we’re going to do this alone. You’re forgetting that we have support. Tucker and Sam are moving over soon, Jazz is one call away. That doesn’t even count the 20 billion siblings you dad has got.”

The snort Jason let out was counted as a win.

“I mean do you know how many onesies I saw Dick looking up on his phone during those weeks of pranking?Tim was frantically googling what to expect while your expecting.”

“Really?”

Danny nodded solemnly,

“Duke and Damian were figuring out how to set up a nursery. You remember how Bruce reacted the first time. They’ll be excited! And we both know that the girls are going to flip!”

Danny gently nudged him in the side,

“Annnd you’ll have me. I’ll be at your side until you get annoyed by my presence!”

Jason gently unfolded himself and rested his head on Danny’s,

“You know that we’re going to have to come clean about our relationship right?”

With a dramatic sigh Danny got up and pulled Jason along,

“It was fun while it lasted, two and a half years of circumventing Brucie’s attempts of getting me to join the family only to be murdered for that same reason.”

“Nah, Old man isn’t who you should be worried about, Alfred on the other hand…”

As they sat down and turned on the morning news a calm finally fell onto Jason. With a glance down to his stomach he took a deep breath.

‘Yeah we can do this.”

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I was wondering if anyone was gonna bring this up

Listen I don’t know where tf all the jason pregnancy stuff came from but I do think the timing is hilarious considering joker mpreg just became officially canon

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C’MON I KNOW YOU MOTHERFUCKERS CAN DO IT!!! GET DANNY PHANTOM #PHANTOMSWEEP NUMBER ONE TRENDING!!!!!! GET IT ABOVE US POLITICS SO THAT I CAN SAY “AT THIS RATE DANNY PHANTOM WILL BECOME PRESIDENT” AND IT’LL MAKE SENSE!!!!!!!!

I’LL POST A SHITTY AMV IF THAT’S ENOUGH OF AN INCENTIVE!!!!!! C’MON IT’LL BE REALLY FUNNY TO MAKE PEOPLE CONFUSED WHY DANNY PHANTOM IS NUMBER ONE TRENDING NOW INSTEAD OF ON THE ANNIVERSARY

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on no

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Like Beta Fish Do - Part 6

Part 1 and prompt, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5 wc: 2307

Danny’s core hummed happily in the cold of the Far Frozen. He took the time to do some lazy loops through the air simply to enjoy the chilling sensation. He was still concerned about the whole situation with Gotham University, but at least he had a list of things he needed to figure out. Talking to the other halfa was the very last thing on the list. There was no reason to go through that if the other things wouldn’t work out. He wasn’t avoiding it, it was just logical. Eventually, he drifted his way to to actually track down Frostbite. Once he had, they sat down and caught up with each other over some hot chocolate. Danny got to hear how everything was going in the Far Frozen and Frostbite listened to updates about Danny’s friends. Finally, though, there was nothing else to go over. Danny knew he had to deal with why he came. “Can ghosts change their haunts?” he asked into the silence. Okay, so maybe he should have eased into the topic a little by the way that Frostbite turned quickly to look at him.

Keep reading

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I don’t remember posting it either so keep it anyway💚💙

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Like Beta Fish Do - Part 4

Part 1 and prompt, Part 2, Part 3 wc: 1372 “Hey Dora?” Danny asked from where he was sprawled out on the ground, exhausted from the training session with the other ghost. There was no denying that he was learning a lot from his sessions with her, but she did not hold back. His bruises would have bruises if he didn’t heal so fast.

“Yes Danny?”

“So, awhile back in one of my etiquette sessions with Princess Dorothea, we went over something, but I want to get your take on it too.”

“You mean you did not pay attention and now need me to fill in what you missed?” Pandora asked.

Danny was pretty sure she was smirking.

“No! I paid attention. I just— it doesn’t make sense with what I’ve experienced and I don’t want to messed this up.”

The other halfa’s haunt had felt horrible. While in it, Danny couldn’t wait to get out of there and as soon as he was out of the airspace the relief was instant. But the whole flight back to Amity Park that sadness he had felt at the center of the haunt weighed on Danny. It seemed so at odds with everything the haunt felt like.

It made him wonder what the other halfa was really like under that anger.

It made him think that maybe…

“Very well,” Pandora said, interrupting Danny’s thoughts. He was pretty sure her willingness was less that she believed him about paying attention and more that she was humoring him. He’d take what he could get. “What was this lesson about?”

“Entering another ghost’s haunts. Princess said you were supposed to introduce yourself, ask for permission to enter, and present a gift to the other ghost.”

She nodded along. “Yes, that is the polite way to go about it. Not doing so can be seen as a declaration of battle for many ghosts.”

“Right, that’s great,” Danny grumbled. He really, really hoped that the other halfa had liked the bathbombs. “If that’s the case, why does no one treat me that way? Like, none of the other ghosts asked for permission to enter my haunt or gave me gifts. I mean, I guess some of them introduce themselves. You know, ‘Oooooo I am the Box Ghost!’ and all.”

Pandora smiled at him. Yep, she was amused by all this. “Little King, why would they when you invited them?”

“What? No!” Danny sat up with a jolt. Every bit of his non-corporeal self protested the motion, but he was too thrown by the implication to care. “No I fucking did not invite them! Why would I invite them to wreck my home?”

Pandora raised a brow at him. “What do you believe the portal to be? It is a beacon of welcome.”

“I- what. No! I didn’t even— okay, I mean, yes, I was technically the one who turned the portal on, but I didn’t mean to and it’s my p—” Danny fumbled, swallowing back the hurt. “—Jack and Maddie were the ones who made the portal.”

“But you turned it on, as you said,” Pandora said. “Your very essence is linked to it. It resonates with your power.”

Danny groaned and fell forward to bury his face in his hands. His words of despair were muffled as he continued. “Okay, sure. That’s great. So I, what, declared to the whole ghost realm I was open for a war or something?”

Pandora’s laughter rang out at that, making Danny pry his head out of his hands to look at her incredulously. “No little one! Not to war, but to brawl!”

“What.”

“Brawling! A friendly clash of power and obsession and cores!” Pandora said enthusiastically, her hair flaring brighter for a moment in passion. Danny would swear she struck a pose. (Ghosts, they always found a way to be extra dramatic.) “Brawling is how many ghosts bond with each other. It is very invigorating and satisfies many’s cores.”

“So you’re saying,” Danny started, speaking slowly as he tried to gather his thoughts. His words sped up and got louder till he was almost yelling, “that, what, ghosts are just overgrown beta fish or something? That all of those times I’ve been attacked, all those times Amity Park has been attacked, was just another ghost having fun? Even Skulker? He wants to mount my skin to his wall!”

Pandora paused at that, considering it. “Well, perhaps not Skulker. All ghosts are not the same in motivation or kindness. Though now I am sure that he does not wish to truly harm you. If that is not the case than I will be having a talk with him.”

Her one hand tightened around her sword and her eyes flashed dangerously.

For a small, brief— super brief— moment Danny actually felt sorry for Skulker. The mood passed quickly.

“Right, okay,” Danny said, trying to control both his volume and temper. It wasn’t fair to snap at Pandora like that when she was just trying to explain things. “So a few ghosts like Skulker and Specter and the fruit loop aside, the other ghosts are just… play fighting?”

“Yes, for the most part I believe that to be true. Sometimes it is an attempt to fuel their obsession, but to brawl with you directly is an act of bonding. They are your friends, Danny,” Pandora said, her tone softening, “surely you know this?”

“I—”

Danny stopped to really think about that question. Johnny, Kitty, and Ember were like annoying siblings these days. Boxy the weird uncle someone had put up with over the holidays. Even Skulker wasn’t the worst anymore. Fright Knight he was getting along surprisingly well with in a sort of coworker way. And of course he liked all the Ancients.

“I… guess?”

Pandora came and knelt next to him, resting one of her hands on his shoulder. “What makes you doubt that, little king?”

He frowned and looked away from her with a little shrug. “I guess it’s just, you know, you almost get killed— you know, like, fully killed— by someone a few times and it’s a little hard to move them into the friend box.”

“Their drive in the brawls were not to kill you,” Pandora reminded him. She paused before adding, “Except perhaps Skulker. Whom I will be speaking with.”

“Sure, maybe, like, it’s not that I don’t believe you, Pandora, but it does change that they almost did? I…” He pulled his knees up to his chest, resting his head on them. It sucked to have to admit this to someone he really respected like Pandora. She was so strong and he was… “I know I’m the king to be now and I’ve fought a lot of really tough enemies, but when I was first starting out I wasn’t strong like this. I was really hurt in some of those fights. They may have been playing, but I was fighting for my life. Or I thought I was. I was so sure a few times that I might lose. And even if I beat them, I still had to escape being hunted by… anyways. Some battles were really close.”

“Little king, Danny,” Pandora said. She reached out and gently turned Danny’s face to look at her. “I cannot believe that they knew that. You have always fought with such vigor and life in all the fights that I have known you for. Perhaps with your skill and quips it was too easy to forget that you are still a very young ghost with a great deal of growing left to do. I will speak with them.”

Danny scrambled to stand as Pandora did, protesting, “No, I don’t want anyone to feel badly or—”

“Perhaps not, but it is something they deserve to know. And you deserve to have answers about their intentions. So I will speak with them, my King.”

“Not your King yet,” Danny said, grumbling to cover up how overwhelmed he felt by Pandora’s care.

“No, but one day you will be and my loyalty is already yours. Come though, for now we eat and go over our training from today to see how else we can improve.”

“Yes, Dora,” Danny said, letting himself be pulled along and putting the discussion behind him for now.

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AN: Aaaaand the beta fish part comes in! Hopefully this was decently cohesive! The artic front is doing me in and I sometimes lose words with bad headaches. This brings us to the end of chapter 2. I'd like to get at least one more done and everything rewritten before I start putting it up on Ao3. That might take a little because while I know where I want to get to (and have written some of it) I'm not sure the exact steps I want to take to get there. But it will get figured out I'm sure! As always, stay delightful my darlings and if you've been caught up in the artic front, stay warm!

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