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[SPOILERS] I had to come back here after a long break to see the reactions. This is an A+ analysis, absolutely on point. They did not make Joker weak. They did not have Joker suffer an inglorious death on the floor of a filthy asylum. They did not make Harley betray Joker, because Arthur was never the Joker and if that wasn't obvious after watching the first movie, I don't understand what you were watching. My hot take is that a lot of people are mad at this movie precisely because of the point it makes about superfandom. The Harley of this movie is a superfan, the kind of woman who drools over Wade Wilson and thinks she could have fixed Ted Bundy (or been his partner in crime). When she finally obtains her heart's desire, she discovers the prize she has won is a weak, emotionally fragile beta male with no experience with women who has no grand plan and was really just trying to get home from his crappy job without getting his ass kicked yet again. As the movie progresses, Lee does her best to stuff him into the box she's created for him in her fantasies. She tries to keep that image of him going even as she sees the opposite (a particularly telling scene is the one where she insists upon painting his face like the Joker before having sex with him. It's never been Arthur that she wants!) Arthur's not opposed to being the much cooler and sexier Joker, one of life's winners instead of the loser he has always been, in fact he wants it as much as she does, and he tries to put on that confident, no fucks given face -- but ultimately he just can't do it. It's not him. The sight of his former friend who is now on the stand, terrified of him, talking about how the trauma ruined his life, breaks him. When his true self reappears, Lee completely loses interest in the same way that a superfan of any serial killer would the first time he showed weakness, farted in front of her or couldn't get it up. None of this is a message that is going to make any friends among the DC fanboys who imagine that they could transform into the traditional Joker and enjoy a life of violence, cash and Margot Robbie in booty shorts.

I am an old school Harley & Joker fan who has always been able to enjoy them for exactly what they are without ever once, for a millisecond, thinking I might want to hook up with a terrorist in real life. I don't mind this story of Harley and Arthur one bit - I enjoyed it and would even go so far as to say I'd love to see another movie with Lady Gaga's Harley. I like how dark she was. I liked it better than Margot, although I admit I may be biased against Margot at this point for her opposition to any further JxHQ content. I don't know though, it just seemed more real to me - more believable. The true crime superfan who is disappointed in the reality of the man she idolized and goes on to live the fantasy as the protagonist and villain instead of the sidekick. It would be a great story to go on to show how she meets her match in the real Joker. I believe Lady Gaga's Harley could do the things HQ has done - murdering children, torturing people. It was always a little tough to buy coming from Margot who seems a little too cotton candy even when she's technically doing bad things. I'll probably never get to see more of this Harley after these box office numbers, and I'm truly sorry about that.

*joker 2 spoilers below

a good 90% of the negative audience reviews for joker 2 are riddled with the most incredible you wouldnt get it™️ irony on planet earth but seeing folks react badly to folie a deux’s ending has been especially baffling to me considering how perfectly i think it sums up the tragic absurdity of arthur’s character

in joker 2’s final act, arthur realizes that the public’s “love” for joker is not only self-interested and conditional, but also built on the undeserved destruction of the two people in his life (gary and ricky) who actually liked him for him and not for joker. this inspires a final prevailing of conscience within arthur but instead of being rewarded for it in any way, he is then brutally cut down for not being sufficiently “joker” enough - first by lee’s rejection, then by the arkham inmate’s knife, and finally by joker 2’s infuriated mass audience who have now loudly confirmed that they have no interest in seeing arthur fleck’s faggy showtune fantasy world unless it ends with joker blowing somebody’s head off

yet in choosing to end folie a deux as arthur’s story instead of joker’s, todd allows arthur to retain his last shred of humanity as a character - something you would think joker 1 fans would be appreciative of if they were at all invested in arthur’s progression as a tragic anti-hero vs joker’s. but todd seemed to understand better than anyone that that’s never been the case, brilliantly setting up a scene in which arthur’s attorney asks lee a series of questions which fans of joker 1 must answer in order to fully enjoy the sequel: did you actually think arthur was going to face zero repercussions for killing 6 people? did you actually think life in an early 80s mental institution would be filled with anything but abuse and misery? did you actually want to see the complete destruction of a sick man’s soul in exchange for 2 hours of vicarious violence? did you ever actually like arthur fleck at all?

the first joker was such a popular film in part because it allowed its frustrated and disenfranchised audience to experience a cathartic sense of revenge against whatever oppressive political “system” it was that they saw reflected in their own lives. but the reality is that both arthur and joker have always existed outside of these conversations. as joker tells murray before propelling arthur to accidental martydom, he is not a political actor. he has no ideological goal or understanding of class warfare. he is merely a lumpen symptom of late stage capitalism who offers no solutions to its agonies. in arthur’s miserable and troubled mind, his problems are not systemic but deeply personal. he is motivated solely by revenge and humiliation. it was always the audience who projected something more.

because at his core, arthur has never been the super cunning, hyper-masculine, or thoroughly ruthless joker character either gotham or his real life fanbase has imagined him to be. he has always been a pitiful freak stuck in arrested development, a nameless victim of poverty and abuse abandoned by capitalist bureaucracy, a visibly effeminate lover of song and dance tormented by a series of posturing strongmen, a hopeless romantic desperate to be loved by anybody in any way. and yet when arthur was finally presented with the only chance he’d ever have to be “loved” before the world, he chose to do the one thing his own abusers never did: consider the collateral damage of his own actions and take responsibility for them. arthur effectively ends joker 2 with a conscience and, in doing so, loses both his life and his audience. to me that makes folie a deux’s ending the greatest joke of all time.

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Would you ever update your ‘Dancing on the edge’ story on AO3 or have you finished with that one :)

I have a job right now that is kicking my butt. If that ever changes I will definitely get back to writing. But right now I barely have time to sleep and shower!

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Drunk Tank

Mood: (Harley x Ledger!Joker) Harley sees the Joker drunk for the first time. A little window into their relationship after the initial high of getting together has passed, and they’re still settling into living together. This period of time is probably the sweet spot for prompts, btw. 

Rating: Domestic 💯

Prompt: From Anon, Harley & J get drunk together or one of them reacts to the other getting drunk.

Drunk Tank, a Harlequin-Tumblr-Exclusive

It was mid-October, just a week after Harley and the Joker’s tussle with the Odessa gang, which of course, ended with Harley murdering their leader Boris Kosov via a brick to the skull. What was she supposed to do, let him live?

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LOL system error!

This scene.

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No words can describe!! how much I want these full scenes!!!!

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While we’re at it i’d like to talk about Suicide Squad Joker/Harley’s depiction of consent. This is hugely overlooked. Yes, there are some other female characters in the movie who didn’t get the same treatment, but with Joker and Harley there is a running theme of consent from day 1. If it ever wavers, it’s the Joker who is assumed to be willing and Harleen/Harley is the one who pushes for it.

Remember that Harleen started out in a power position over J, but he on the other hand is a master manipulator. They were on equal ground. She could choose to stop treating him or at the very least keep her distance, and he could choose not to let her get closer. You don’t just “happen” to bring a machine gun to a convict murderer. It’s a calculated, ice-cold decision that’s hard to pull off, based on the reward Harleen thinks she’ll get. Because Harleen Quinzel is calculated, ice-cold, head over heels and absolutely going for that reward at all times. Casualties, colleagues, other patients? She doesn’t care!!! Because her character is written as corrupt back from the very first comic she appears in. It’s not a question about the lion and the lamb. She is the predator. The Joker is a predator. They are both on top of the food chain together. 

Why can I make this conclusion, even without all the source material supporting this? Because social psychology tells us that we can only make assumptions about a person’s personality and nature based on the decisions they make from their absolute free will when there are other viable options to choose from. This is the path Harleen chose.

Take the electroshock scene. Harleen smiles and says she can take it, welcoming it and basically encouraging it. She doesn’t show or say anything against it once they’re alone, she only tells Frost to get off her before she realizes what’s happening and who’s behind it.

In the highway scene, Harleen hunts J down and stalks him. He has the choice to kill her in return but doesn’t. I dare say he let her put that gun to his head because honestly, do you think that would have happened with an enemy of his? Could anyone walk up to the joker and do that? No, he had already given her consent to be that close to him.

Take the acid bath scene. Harleen, calm and focused, decides to jump without any physical or mental coercion. There is no threat or bad consequence if she doesn’t. It’s all on her. There’s only a possible reward if she jumps, and she’s motivated by the reward of it.

Hell, even after J picks her up from the acid, you can see he hesitates before leaning down to kiss her a second time, waiting until she wraps her hands around his head and pulls him closer, indicating that she still wants him to touch her. It’s her wordless consent.

Club scene? Harley chooses to dance for people bc she’s enjoying it. She chooses to taunt the other man because she finds it exciting.

She decides to leave the Squad for J, without a second of doubt or hesitation. He constantly offers her a choice and the only reward is his attention/love. That’s enough for her.

If you hate their relationship in this movie you didn’t actually watch it. It cannot be compared to any of the previous versions.

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Can we talk about this?? The piano is outside of J’s circle of knives, you can see it in the far end of the room in the movie. He’s supposed to have written this in his desperate loneliness.

This is a twisted, misspelled and messy retelling of himself, Harley’s rise and her disappearance!!! Referring to himself as the “laff bringer” or laff. This is basically a love confession.

“She was now the queen of the laff bringer, ha ha! Together they were ordained to restore the true order of the wind and water.”

“But the Bat took the queen! Ha ha! And the laff bringer could laff no more! The quest has begun for the queen of laff. She is the one who cannot be remade. Her laff is the only truth.”

This is him saying that he can’t replace Harley with anyone. She is basically his whole world.

Jared said that this Joker is somewhat of a shaman, in touch with the universe and I’ve always been inclined to agree. I now understand why he said that.

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This is the BEST show!

Upload

i’m kind of obsessed with the virtual afterlife idea but it’s so crazy to me. Nathan is dead but he can call, facetime, and go to his own funeral, but everything cost money. When Nathan and Nora went down to the 2Gs so many of them were frozen because they had run out of data and everything from reading to thinking hard costed data and data is money. Upload is amazing and comes so hard at capitalism

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I knew before I looked that this bad review was written by a man. They don't realize how many of us have that guy we would take off for...even 20 or 30 years later. Or maybe they just don't want to know.

Watched this last night.

This is so stupid. So they were highschool sweethearts. And randomly in their 40s while married this man texts her the word "run".

And her crazy behind leaves her husband, job and life to be with this man she was with in highschool.

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Everybody needs to watch this so I'm not talking to myself about it in a void...

RUN 

HBO’s new series

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Run has already killed me

This is the hottest shit I've ever seen

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Run HBO Trailer

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This show is my new obsession!

“I had this moment of of clarity, that there wasn’t a single person I had ever met in my entire life that I ever wanted to see again. And then I thought of you.” - RUN S01E01

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IM SCREAMING

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Oh my God this is adorable.

Oh, thank you.

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Oh my God this is adorable.

Oh, thank you.