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mike wheeler having internalized homophobia😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭mike wheeler taking it out on will😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭mike wheeler😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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possessed mike possessed mike possessed mike

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jonathan carrying a will burrito 🌯 om nom nom nom

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Does anyone else find it interesting that in two seasons where Mike clearly struggles with internalised anger (homophobia lets be real), there are two otherwise unnecessary scenes where he watches someone try something new and different (Lucas with new coke in S3 and El with hawaiian pizza in S4) and Mike states his immediate distaste for them -- BEFORE he even tries any of them. He calls them "gross" and "blasphemous".

It happened twice. If this happened once then I would have chalked it up to a funny scene just for humour purposes, but he's the only one being put in these situations. Both times, these scenes don't add anything to the story. (Yes I know that the new coke scene is a product placement, but they made Mike the one to refuse it for a reason.) To me, they've been put there by the writers to show that Mike's the type, in these two seasons, to go along with public opinion even if he's never actually tried them.

In the 80s, obviously, the public opinion is that traditional relationships are good, and queer relationships aren't. He's already seen conforming to society's ideas of a man when he expresses that women act on emotion and not logic. He's being affected by public opinion.

The difference between the two scenes is that in S4, he's made to actually try it by Argyle and El, who use the line "Try before you deny" (obviously fucking queercoded). Then he actually decides he likes it, which is off camera, but you can see it in the subtitles that he says "actually it's pretty good".

These scenes, to me, or nothing but foreshadowing. A little nod to go back on and rewatch post-season 5.

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just remembered this photo exists. GOSH THEY ARE INTERACTING IN S5 IM FUCKING DEAD

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I hate when people assume I dislike El’s character just because I ship Byler.

I don’t hate El.

I actually think she was at her best in Season 3, when she broke up with Mike and focused on herself. I loved her friendship with Max.

Max saw El as a teenage girl.

Mike sees El as a superhero.

I believe El doesn’t need to be in a relationship right now. She needs time to focus on herself. And yes, I strongly believe Mike cares about her — but not as much as he cares about Will.

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The video Noah posted. It looked like it's a studio where you recording voiceovers for tv-shows/movies. That is what I have been wanting for season 5. So this gives me hope that the first episode will start with a Will voice over of what happened during these 18 months we haven't seen. And maybe he will also have one later on too seeing that he is asking this is for episode 1.

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can Dustin and Lucas like, yknow, just be bitching about Mike complaining about Joyce always using the phone while Will is listening and he's like "wait what" to them and it's like the biggest holy shit moment for not just Will and Mike but Lucas and Dustin too

like it's the biggest between Will and Mike but Lucas and Dustin cause it bc they're just talking about it and they go "... oh fuck, look at the time, time to, uh, exit this situation" and they just fucking RUN

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169 days until volume 1!

198 days until volume 2!

204 days until the final episode!

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People say they don't like Mike because he's become inconsistent but I think it's really because he's the MOST consistent.

You don't miss who he used to be, you can't. He is that person now. Gentle, angry, strategic, leading, defensive, kind.

He seems inconsistent in contrast to those around him because he is clinging to that person he was. He misses "season 2 Mike" too, he's just going about it all wrong.

The thing they don't like is the symptoms of the fact that he hasn't changed. And from 12 to 15, a person SHOULD. That's often when people do the MOST and he HASN'T.

THAT'S what's off-putting. The clinging. They want him to go back to how he was but that's actually the problem. He needs to allow himself to grow into what his actual inclinations are instead of holding onto who he was and how he felt about people when he was 12 years old.

His relationships aren't strained because he's changing. They're strained because you're supposed to grow together and only one of them is allowing themselves to grow at all.

He's so terrified of who he wants to become that he's forced himself to stay who he was. You're seeing a failure to be who he was, but the solution to that isn't success at it, it's allowing himself to be who he is now.

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heeheehoohoo

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if she can take a hit from metaphorical colorful napalm, then she's definitely a keeper

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If you ever get byler doubt just listen to this playlist Finn Wolfhard made about Mike Wheeler

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a couple byler doodles bc I miss them

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one of many of my fav byler moments is in season four when will and mike are arguing at the skate rink.

will asks why mike didn't reach out more and says he only called a couple times. mike repsonds with "maybe you should've reached out more".

But then later on we get confirmation from I think dustin when he mentions mike won't stop whining about how the phone is always busy.

so mike did infact reach out. But why not admit that to will? why not tell your bestfriend in a moment where he assumes you don't care about him, that you do care. maybe just maybe because he cares about him in a more than friends way and is scared to admit and accept it.