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[dearweirdme]

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[dearweirdme]

I watched AYS and to me it just made feel awkward watching so many times 🫠 and also irritated. JK was often visibly down or stressed or sick. Jimin tried to “save” it by overcompensating but JK wasn’t really playing along, JK was on his phone A LOT (mind you we saw the edited version soooo it must have been even more), the way it was cut and edited was clearly to feed some delusions - and how manipulated and scripted all of it together felt. Did not feel genuine or spontaneous whereas many of the ITS, BV etc formats didn’t despite also being content. I don’t think BTS as a duo works as well though - no one to cover or bounce off of…I thought they would have realized it with season 1 but okay I guess not! And the treatment of Tae and how it again played into the cards of those hating Tae or him destroying a honeymoon or him throwing himself at JK who was “annoyed” etc. it all just felt heavy and calculated and lazy. Cause these two just aren’t that entertaining to watch together I am afraid. Maybe it’s different now but I can’t see how on earth both have reached the mental capacity, relaxation and peace of mind just a week after their discharge to make it look and feel differently 😅

Hi anon!

I agree on the BTS as a duo not working that well. At least not in this format. For smaller things it could work just fine probably, but a whole series just needs more energy. I think that’s why Jeju was a better watch (aside from the tkk of it all) because Tae’s energy helped a lot.

I have to say, I am curious about the content. I am curious to hear what they talk about and their experiences in the military.

[dearweirdme]

Rain you need to find all the blog posts from 2023 about AYS since I'm sure we're bringing up the same exact discourse two years later 😭😭

Hi anon!

Lmao.. that’s probably true 😂. My tag system is failing miserably I’m afraid.

[dearweirdme]

https://www.tumblr.com/dearweirdme/787259516236529664/i-know-that-as-a-taekooker-we-myself-included

the members themselves are always going to see fanservice differently than fans do. i think it's clear they all know how to turn it on and will be more playful and interactive, like during concerts when they're putting on a performance. but i think they see it in "im gonna have fun with friends and i know fans will enjoy it" kinda way, not "im going to purposefully make fans think im in a relationship with my bandmate". they just know fans want to see them interact and they can provide that.

jungkook always gets the short end of the stick because he's accused of fanservice from both sides. and again, yes they all do forms of fanservice. but i really think more often than not they just see it as interacting with each other for the benefit of fans, nothing deeper. because really, imagine you're jungkook: what's the harm in doing a show with your bandmate you know most of your fans will enjoy? especially since you were about to enlist/were just discharged and obviously couldn't provide much content then

Hi anon!

I think it’s important to understand that members have literally grown up watching fanservice take place in other groups. When they themselves got thrown into the music business they were taught to do fanservice. So they see it as something that’s part of their job and not as trying to make people believe they’re actually a couple.

That doesn’t mean they’re never affected or against it. We can clearly see Tae have issues with some moments. But at the same time we can also see plenty of moments where he isn’t bothered. Tae understands fanservice just as well as the others do, but him and Jk being together probably adds a level of difficulty for both of them.

[dearweirdme]

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i kind of feel the same way lol. im so fed up w/jk rn, the first thing he did after ms aside from the live is posting jkk pic on wv, then travel and be cozy with jm for what? 2 weeks now?

im kind of glad tae didn't post or mentioned him at all, and hopefully never again

When I imagine Jk reading a comment like this, I think it would make him so sad. Because our guy is just out there trying to get back into things, excited to make stuff for army, probably a bit insecure… and then people go and shit on him for it.

I understand having feelings about the jkk of it all. But imo Jk and Jm do not intent for this to be a jkk push in the way Jkkrs think it is.

Also flipping weird to want Tae to act a certain way because of this.

[dearweirdme]

“ Jm and Jk are good friends, who also work together and get paired up for content a lot!

“Okay but genuinely WHY? They don’t even seem to be the closest let alone most interesting duo of this band? And it’s almost EXCLUSIVELY them being paired up. Like anon said, it’s so much it’s low-key ridiculous now. It’s overkill.

Why not pair Mingyu and JK? Two fandoms, boom. But no, I really do not get it 😭

Hi anon!

They don’t need to be the closest to be paired up together. No matter what, Jk and Jm are popular together and they do pull views. And we see other member pairings as well, though the most prominent one is Jm and Jk yeah.

[dearweirdme]

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they are friends, but u cannot deny the way so many tk things have been copied for others/the group. i don’t think it’s unrealistic to assume otherwise

Hi anon!

I personally don’t connect the two instances. I think members just do dance challenges and right now this one happened.

Doesn’t mean some tkk things don’t get copied (i think i can get behind that), just that I feel this one isn’t.

[dearweirdme]

https://www.tumblr.com/dearweirdme/787256070360973312/i-really-really-need-tkkrs-to-stop-being-so

Yeah all the Jikooker discourse was annoying, but they're always like that too so. I think people are forgetting that at the end of the day it's just work lol. That doesn't mean either JK or Jimin dislike what they're doing, but the context is different and that matters. It's a job, it's for fans. Jikookers can convince themselves it's more than that but we know that's not the case 🤷🏻‍♀️

Hi anon!

Agree!

[dearweirdme]

https://www.tumblr.com/dearweirdme/787255130492928000/low-key-shocked-that-this-is-the-first-thing-jk

Since it was so soon, I'd guess that this was planned for a while, maybe even since the last season and a part of their original show concept or whatever. I don't think they came out of the military and spontaneously decided to do it

Hi anon!

That does sound likely to me yeah.

[dearweirdme]

https://www.tumblr.com/dearweirdme/787255680693354496/honestly-just-give-us-ays-2-and-lets-be-done-with

last season gave us jikook admitting they barley hung out throughout solo era and probably wouldn't have if not for the show and jimin comparing jungkook to his younger sibling. can't wait to see what comes next tbh

Hi anon!

This 😂!

[dearweirdme]

the only thing that annoys me and I know it’s irrational and irrelevant but still jejejd that everyone who doesn’t look deeper thinks Jungkook and Jimin are the closest of them all, the best friends, or a couple. Cause from AYS, Jimin always mentioning JK in his social media activity during military service, them enlisting together and out of the military immediately allegedly back to traveling and filming. And now that KIG video etc. from the outside it looks like they are the closest duo and always hang out. And we know it’s just not true at all. And that is just frustrating idk 🤷🏽‍♀️

Hi anon!

Yes, I have to admit this bugs me too at times (not Jm mentioning him btw, I’m fine with that). I’m always glad with our space around here where we understand Tae and Jk’s closeness. Tae and Jk’s closeness has been topic of such hateful conversations that this has become a tender spot for me.

[dearweirdme]

I do feel like there's a change in tk and jkk dynamics. i'm not saying jkk are together but i do think they're a lot more closer now after ms maybe due to trauma bonding? tk are still close, we've seen proof of that on hobi's concert but it feels like there's a strain in their relationship.

Oh anon… you’re not able to tell that right now. You’ve only seen Tae and Jk together during Hobi’s show and they actually seemed very fine then.

Likewise you can’t say much on Jk and Jm as well. Sure they experienced something together, but you don’t know if a change can be noticed. Maybe it’s a good change even.

The way I see it for now. I was pretty convinced Jk and Tae were together before enlisting. We’ve had clues and evidence of them meeting during enlistment (going to a restaurant, going to a gym, them joking in Jin’s live was also fun). And we’ve seen them be close and happy during Hobi’s show. So.. I’m not really worried. There have been no negative signs imo.

[dearweirdme]

Welp I just saw the ducks pic… Anyways, what this means for me is that the members jumped straight into work. And for these 2 I guess it’s their trip show instead of their other projects but that’s their decision so I’ll respect that. Any jkkr trying to turn this into a romantic venture is delusional. Now it’s more clear than even that they both want to give content for the fans as part of their work which very much goes in tune with what BTS has done for so many years.

Hi anon!

Are the duck pics those blurry ones? Were there actually ducks? 😂

But yep, straight into work it seems to be.

[dearweirdme]

I'll preface this by saying that I am not, have never been, a jikooker, coz I don't want anyone to go all rambo on my ass...sigh...here it goes... I HATE this. I so wish I had never come across this coz I really, truly hate this. Idgaf that jk isn't dating jm coz atp they are more stuck together than any other ship in whole k-pop world rn. They did a show exclusive for them before enlistment, enlisted together, came back and went straight ahead into another thing together (whatsoever it is). No other bts duo has had as much exclusive screen time as them. And not just screen time, time outside of work as well. I had hoped for atleast a miniscule taekook update, now that they are back, but all I can see literally anywhere, all anyone is talking about is jikk. Tae has stopped talking about jk, jk is giggling in jm's tiktok when everyone of us here was thinking that they aren't even in the same country.

Now I know what everyone will say to me, "we can't expect anything from them..yada yada" but I didnt expect this either. I wish I was brain dead enough to be a jikkr. Life would be all sunshine and rainbows rn 😭😭😭😭😭. I don't think I can handle one more episode of that godawful perpetually on honeymoon couple narrative show. No wonder tae has distanced himself from this. Atp it doesn't even feel like he needs to stop himself from talking/posting about jk coz he's not even with jk enough now.

Someone here was talking about taekook moving together. I think at the rate things are going, we'll sooner get the news that jimin has moved in with jk and given his apartment to daeun and her dog.

I remember so many tkkrs saying that post enlistment period will be like solo era 2.0. If it's solo era 2.0, then it's definitely solo era in the upside down.

This is not what I had expected. At all. Atp I am getting more happiness coz of Yoongi than the reason I have stayed with bts for this long. Even if they have tae or every other member with them on the show this time, I won't be watching whatever this is this time. I'd rather go stare at the trees in my yard.

Hi anon!

I’m guessing many feel similar to you. I think it’s important to realize that this is still only a few weeks in. There’s no way of telling what Jk and Tae are gonna be like from now. We haven’t seen them much. For me it’s always been clear what Jkk is. Jm and Jk are good friends, who also work together and get paired up for content a lot! That’s probably not going to change much to be honest. I think we’ll keep seeing them together often because in the end it is profitable. Tae and Jk have always been more private. So we just don’t get these things the way Jkkrs do. Personally, I’d also rather not. I mean.. I loved Tae in AYS, but I’d absolutely rather have them stay private and protect their peace.

Who knows what things will look like a week from now. Jk and Tae could be spotted somewhere together in a day or so and all our thoughts will have changed again.

[dearweirdme]

I know that as a taekooker we (myself included) always try to defend taekook from the company and also the pushed/endorsed jkk ship or other ships. But honestly I think we've just been all more bothered by it than taekook.

They stuck with the company all these years. Keep resigning contracts. Keep participating in the shipping. So in the end, it seems they are doing what they want to do. Regardless of the mistreatment and weird scenarios they've been put into. They weren't forced to re-sign again and again.

I know it's more complicated than that, but also I think we tend to act like they are helpless and can't actually escape. But they aren't. They are all so rich at this point and could easily go off and go solo. Or even sign a different label together. I'm sure there's SO MANY labels that would take them open arms. Hell, they could even just sit on their money for the rest of their lives and just chill. I know creatively they probably wouldn't want to do that though.

But I guess my point is that if they truly were miserable with this company, then I'm confused as to why they'd stick around. So my guess is that they are fine with dealing with the BS, even if it all seems fake and not what they want. And sure it may seem virtuous to stick around to keep BTS together, but at the end of the day, it's their individual happiness that matters. And as for the fans and doing it for them, that also seems like a strange thing to prioritize over your mental health.

So maybe we're just overreacting and they're content? And if JK really wasn't interested in doing AYS last time like a lot of us assumed (based on the weird chemistry in the show), then he could have said no in the first place and also if they're doing it again, said no this time. But maybe he's fine with it idk.

I know it seems like I'm being a hater. But it's more pent up frustration at them doing things that seem to be against what fulfills them. What they've led me to believe fulfills them I guess.. That company is toxic and every time I'd hear they resigned, I'd sigh. Because re-signing with them is not the only option for them to make music. And not re-signing obviously wouldn't ruin them career-wise either.

Hi anon!

I absolutely don’t feel you’re a hater because you think they have power to decide things. I tend to agree with that, but mostly.. it is indeed very complicated.

There are definitely things we can hold against the company and defend them from. The company does screw up and has definitely not treated them right in certain ways. But I don’t think we can see this in black and white, and I think members perspective on this is very different from ours. I believe they have the power to decide certain things, but not others. I also think there’s a lot of push that steers them certain ways. Fandom expectations probably weigh heavily as well. I think HYBE is more to them than just the people on top pulling the strings, but also all the managers, hairdressers, bodyguards, camerapersons.. all the people who’ve become a part of their ‘family’ in a way perhaps. All of those things weigh into their decision to stay or go.

My take is always that their decisions in this are a result of balancing everything. For now the balance always has seemed to tip over towards resigning.

[dearweirdme]

So funny seeing all the OT7 accounts hype this no end. You can hear the collective fandom sigh of relief that all is not lost and they will be fed some BTS group content, albeit not all seven, but its a start......conversely Taehyung at JHopes encore concert trended higher than OT7 reunion articles and Taehyung golfing trended higher than news of the BTS March comeback...

Hi @charjube!

Oof, Tae truly has an unmatched impact. The timing is.. yeah.. at this point any two members together probably make noise.

[dearweirdme]

I do wonder if JK does this freely aka feeding into this ship or if the company holds something over him? This Jimin x Jungkook focus is so blatant at this point - against them not spending time away from content nor having the best friendship / chemistry. Yet it gets pushed so much. I rather would like to see the fan service being shaken up a bit tbh - give me Yoongi and Tae on the hunt for the best restaurant in Seoul or Namjoon and Jungkook reconnecting on a champing trip post military. Or any 7 content? It’s what the fans want the most tbh

Why the constant push of a two pair content that a) many believe they are dating and b) aren’t even the closest out of all the pairs and c) could never match the entertainment, depth or chemistry of 7 nor many other possible BTS duos???

I see so many extreme opinions: JK is forced and unhappy, JK isn’t a good partner to Tae when he plays into it so heavily bla bla it’s very black and white. I need a level headed opinion haha

Hi anon!

Oh, I just think he sees this as work. I don’t even think he has felt similar about each AYS part they did. Ays New York he was sick and very busy and that shone through. During Jeju he seemed in better spirits and I think in Sapporro his mind wasn’t totally at it at times. While working we have days we feel are more fun and days we dislike. It’s all work though and even the parts we don’t enjoy as much have to be taken care of.

What Jk and Jm know is that their names trended because of AYS. I doubt they go very deep into fan discussions and I don’t think they live with shipper discourse in their minds the way we do.

They’re at a vulnerable time right now. Just out of the army, probably nervous about fandom’s reaction to them. AYS is safe, they know it will do well. Perhaps they feel this is a nice way to get back into things.