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I just did a search relating to EthiX and I did not expect it to actually 8e such a hit... I honestly thought it was gonna go unnoticed and/or fade into o8scurity but I see a lot of archives of it and terms made rel8ing to it, which m8kes me really happy.

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Alterpathy: The practice of identifying, categorizing, and identifying with fictional and imagined illnesses due to a disconnect between your external and internal understanding of yourself - while also not intending to appropriate, romanticize, or cause harm to a minority group.

identifying, categorizing, and identifying with: making flags, coining terms, and posting about your experience. alterpathic conditions can also be divided into a couple of categories, which are detailed later in the post.

disconnect between your external and internal understanding of yourself: for some reason, even though you're aware that this isn't how conditions that affect the body work, you experience a reoccurring condition that is serious to you. this can be because of atypical dysphoria, delusions, alternate beliefs, delusions, or anything else similar.

appropriation, romanticism, causing harm: this doesn't mean that actions you take are automatically excused of harm, but it's a silent agreement and nodding between yourself and others that you're not trying to come from a place of ableism/bigotry.

ignoring/excusing bigotry: examples of ignoring/excusing bigotry would be implying that someone can "coin" a real mental illness/other condition in the same way you can coin a gender, implying you can "transition" into a congenital condition with subliminal videos or otherwise, and anything else that goes against science's understanding of illness and neurodivergence. there's nuance to this, of course, because the psychology field isn't an absolutely perfect field that can do no wrong. it's up to the person coining/the person identifying to look at the situation and act accordingly. this part is like a sort of disclaimer. someone using alterpathic terms is nodding and saying "yes, i know, i know, just let me talk about my experiences and have a space to feel accepted."

examples of situations that might bring you to identify this way:

being a fictive/kin/introject/etc of a character who had a disease or type of injury that was invented for their media, like zombie diseases, cyberbrain sclerosis, the cutie pox, hanahaki disease, etc, and feeling affected by it in any way

experiencing something in your system's headspace that's like a reoccurring illness

feeling like you are afflicted with a condition that's not known to affect human bodies, only animal ones, due to atypical dysphoria, delusions, alterhumanity, or any other situation

having limbs like wings, tails, horns, etc in your headspace with some kind of damage to them that causes you phantom discomfort

feeling anxiety/frustration because you're experiencing something on a metaphysical level which you know your physical body isn't experiencing, but it's still very serious to you and possibly even hurting your quality of life

grammar:

alterpathy: 1) the practice of naming/making flags/categorizing these, "here's my mogai blog and here's my alterpathy blog"; 2) this kind of condition. "my depression and my alterpathy make it hard for me," "i might have an alterpathy but i'm not sure"

alterpathic: descriptor that describes these conditions. "it's alterpathic," "how to cope with alterpathic..."

inspiration and some context on why we're coining this

this was largely inspired by the r*dqueer term of x*nomalady, because after the system looked into it, we did see a lot of cases of people who were genuinely experiencing something serious, but didn't seem to think that there was any space other than the rqc that would be accepting of someone identifying with a disease that technically didn't exist. these cases were mixed in with genuinely ableist people who displayed the behaviors i listed above in "ignoring/excusing bigotry," which feels wrong to me, and i think that people who aren't intending to harm anyone deserve their own terminology and space.

crossover

there is some crossover with dissodic, desirdae, intusui, ethix +etc good faith terms related to feeling like you have, internally have, desire, or identify with something you technically don't, and i think that's fine. you can identify with an alterpathic term and the equivalent of it in another term umbrella (that is not r*dqueer, MUD, or x*nomalady), that's fine. do whatever fits best to describe your experiences. just please respect that this was not conceptualized as falling under MUD and you're all good.

so, is this just x*nomalady but Good?

not exactly, i don't want this to be thought of as a 1-to-1 anti rq equivalent, because again, some x*nomalady people are just coining """disorders""" for fun because they think you can do that in the same way you would a gender. this is both an identity/experience, and a silent agreement to be critical of what you're putting out into the world. this is also not focused on "coining" new conditions unless that's really necessary. (not necessary = making up a new illness for funsies. necessary = putting a name to a reoccuring condition you've been experiencing in headspace, etc.)

in the same way that terms like dissomei and intusui aren't 1-to-1 r*dqueer terms but Good and are separate term umbrellas that have their own nuances and notes, this is a good-faith alternative for people genuinely experiencing this kind of thing.

can i coin my own?

yes, this is open to everyone to coin! here's the svg and here's a psd.

TDLR: considering yourself to have a condition that's not possible in reality because of some internal identity, but not in a fashion where you ignore/excuse bigotry.

can i post this term on…

wiki/term definition sites: yes, and you don't have to ask, but i would like to be informed. here's the hd flag

pinterest/other social medias: i previously said no but i guess it's ok if you link directly to the coining post. showing a clear link is the part that really matters to me so please do that.

since i have to add this apparently: no, you may not categorize this under xenomalady or MUD, do not put this on any archives for either of those. respect this boundary.

subtypes:

when a different self began working on this, he set out two subtypes of alterpathic condition. unlike something like the age ratings in nichelink, these are absolutely optional, and you don't have to include these in your term definition if you don't want to/don't find it useful. but i think that if you're like me and like lots of details, these could be appealing, so i will include what he wrote:

Fiction-based. This is aimed at conditions that are established some way in a work of fiction/media, such as:Hanahaki Disease Slender Sickness Radiation Sickness (as seen in the Fallout series, not the IRL version) Environment-Based. Specific conditions that you can recognize are happening because of things already in your environment, like trauma, alterhuman labels, existing neurodivergent symptoms and so on. As an example, I'll mention the specific thing one of the alters in my system has that inspired me to make this subtype. He is a fictive of an angel character, but from my perspective it is vary obvious that his wings don't work and cause him muscle cramps in our headspace as a metaphor for an injury we had when were a child that gave us severe muscle cramps and required extremely painful and traumatizing physical therapy. That's something that was in our environment, so I'd call it environment-based. Subtypes are an optional category though, and you might not be able to decide/understand if yours fits into one or both, and that's fine. Also, I acknowledge that just two subtypes might not be enough to cover all the bases, and also there are probably tons of conditions that fall into both or inbetween, and that's fine. I want to "cross that bridge as we come to it", and let people who identify with this tell me their thoughts about what other words need to be coined.

flag inspiration rambles

this flag went through a lot of design phases. it was originally much more inspired by the general disability flag, because we imagined that most of the appeal would be to people who are actually disabled (mentally ill people, etc). the final flag became more inspired by existing terms for people who experience a disconnect between themself and their conditions. i saw many examples of shades of purple and pink, scalloped stripes/rounded shapes, and specifically these flags were the biggest inspirations:

dissocogni and dissophysi by @/acetrappolaswife (deactivated)

desirsick/desirill by @shrubmogai

other stuff

this is not a recoin, but an update to the original coining to specify further that real life conditions that affect animals but not human bodies are covered under this term.

tags: @antiradqueerguy | @radiomogai | @archive-of-form | @everythingarchive | @medicalmogai-archive | @plurality-faq | @anti-rq-gumi | @doomsd8ydevice | @naizouarimasuka | @melodicarias | @identity-system-archive | @disabilitypride // ask to be untagged

"would (thing) fit this?" ask, there's tons of room for discussion and nuance.

we really liked the idea of this term creating a community of beings who can come together to discuss what ails them and figure out how to relieve it. i welcome discord servers/communities and stuff like that.

this post was written mostly by nichie.

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Arruugh the fact that Mindfang wears mostly black made this very difficult… but I love Mindfang anyway so I can’t stay mad haha

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...Thank you????????

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(And speaking of said Microsoft account it was to check the price of 8uying Minecraft... who wants to 8uy me Minecraft for my h8rd work 8ecause I am NOT paying ~32 dollars!)

I'm 8ack may8e! I was checking my email while trying to get into my Microsoft account and I found Tum8lr emails, then decided to check on this 8log. May8e I'll do some flag requests if anyone has any........

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I'm 8ack may8e! I was checking my email while trying to get into my Microsoft account and I found Tum8lr emails, then decided to check on this 8log. May8e I'll do some flag requests if anyone has any........

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Genderethic

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Genderethic, a gender influenced by ones EthiX(link) terms or that one’s gender is their EthiX terms.

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1. r u okay with doubles (i can dni with you if youre not, dw!)

2. i hope you have a great day :D

Yes!

Sidenote, sorry for the inactivity. I haven't had much motiv8ion l8ly.

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hello! if you don't mind, may i ask if you post your terms somewhere else?

No, I only post them on Tum8lr. I MIGHT try Pinterest? I rarely post anything on Pinterest though so I dou8t they'll get any attention there.

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I should pro8a8ly get to coining more EthiX terms. Eventually. May8e.

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You are a minor d8ing a 20 year old. Please get out of this community 8efore you end up like me.

antiz are so fucking funny oh my lord their logic iz just

consensual non-consent: okay! even though the very name is more obviously contradictory than conabuse

rapeplay: okay! even though it literally has rape in the name

conabuse: BAD because ABUSE CAN'T BE CONSENTED TO also i'm going to ignore the fact that the other two had names even more contradictory than this one purely because i associate conabuse with radqueers who are BAD and EVIL (i evidently don't know what nuance is)

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8DSM is not as widely used to commit actual a8use. Cona8use is. The issue is with the kink as a whole 8ecause if it was esta8lished from the 8eginning that cona8use needed real consent, safewords and also actual aftercare instead of just constantly a8using your partner and didn't have this weird flexi8le 'uwu each couple gets to decide whether they need consent or not' thing going on this would have never happened. Long ass sentence 8ut you get what I mean. I'm not doing this argument anymore get a jo8 and stop approving of a8use! Thaaaaaaaanks <3

antiz are so fucking funny oh my lord their logic iz just

consensual non-consent: okay! even though the very name is more obviously contradictory than conabuse

rapeplay: okay! even though it literally has rape in the name

conabuse: BAD because ABUSE CAN'T BE CONSENTED TO also i'm going to ignore the fact that the other two had names even more contradictory than this one purely because i associate conabuse with radqueers who are BAD and EVIL (i evidently don't know what nuance is)

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CNC and rapeplay are okay 8ecause they have safewords, dum8ass. 8ecause they have things like that put in place to make sure 8oth parties are okay and the scene can 8e stopped whenever. 8ecause, like actual healthy kink, there is consent.

We would all 8e okay with cona8use if it was like that. 8ut it isn't. There are no safewords, no stopping the scene if one party feels uncomforta8le or triggered 8y it, no consent. Cona8use is 8uilt off of nonconsensually a8using other people.

Please take your head out from your ass and stop vagueposting a8out people just 8ecause you're throwing a hissy fit a8out them not thinking a8use is okay. <33333333

antiz are so fucking funny oh my lord their logic iz just

consensual non-consent: okay! even though the very name is more obviously contradictory than conabuse

rapeplay: okay! even though it literally has rape in the name

conabuse: BAD because ABUSE CAN'T BE CONSENTED TO also i'm going to ignore the fact that the other two had names even more contradictory than this one purely because i associate conabuse with radqueers who are BAD and EVIL (i evidently don't know what nuance is)

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Hi! Coiner here. EthiX only supports transa8led for physical/sensory disa8ilities, which is what 8IID encompasses. I worded it the way I did (a condition like 8IID) 8ecause I'm not an expert and if I say just 8IID I may 8e leaving out other similar conditions that you mentioned.

Again, I only support transition if it is

Done 8y an adult.

Done 8y one who knows the consequences of their actions and how this will affect their life going forward.

The actual procedure is done 8y professionals to make sure the recipient doesn't have any more harm done than required for the procedure.

I actually agree with this whole post. You can't transition into a chronic illness or form of neurodivergency, especially not the latter 8ecause it involves how your 8rain is formed and there is no safe procedure to transition to that. It'd 8e like a modern day lo8otomy. 8rain Sta8. I do remem8er specifically mentioning that EthiA8led is only for physical/sensory disa8ilities in it's specific coining post, 8ut I don't 8lame you if you missed that.

EthiX is a TransID alternative. Ethi- comes from ethical, 8ut the way I got there was through the Greek word epithymia, which transl8s to wish. EthiX can also be spelled EthyX so EthyID would look 8etter, either works.

I assume you’re referring to this coining post.

I agree ethiX resolves a lot of the problems transX has. There’s really only one aspect of the definition that I feel needs some elaboration.

EthiX supports transition for -abled terms under certain conditions. While the conditions are fine, and reasonable, it wholeheartedly supports transition when those conditions are met.

…And this is fine for people with BIID who desire to amputate a limb. But a problem arises when considering the entire scope of transabled.

Transabled includes transautistic, which cannot be transitioned to as autism is a developmental brain difference from birth. It includes trans- chronic illnesses, in which the only way to physically transition would be causing excessive pain. It even includes mental disorders such as eating disorders that can be considered disabilities as well. Being disabled is a wide spectrum, so being transabled must be. Missing a limb isn’t the only type of disability there is.

(The definition mentions having a condition “like” BIID makes using ethiX okay, but there are plenty of conditions out there that might influence whether a person wants to be disabled. This ties into how wide the scope of disability is.)

I can’t ethically condone transition for some ethiX labels as a result. Perhaps these scenarios were just an oversight on the coiner’s part, and I hope they were. At any rate ethiX is a good concept. I’d love to be able to fully support it.

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It would usually 8e EthiCat8oy, 8ut Ethix Cat8oy also works!

EthiX CatBoy

EthiX Catboy is a EthiSpecies label for those who identify as being a catboy or wishes they were a catboy.

This label is for any and all genders.

radqueers dni

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I hope all my followers know I'm LITERALLY a pir8. Sailing the seven seas as we speak.

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