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writing twp aus are so frustrating because girlie tell me why dru has no actual plot relevance. i want to include her in the important stuff here why is everything about her always about her insecurities, being a lonely kid who wants her older siblings to see her as reliable/an adult/equal to them, and about her romances. where’s the actual overall plot relevance. please cc give her relevance beyond her romances & personal insecurities.
#trying to write an au rn and it’s so frustrating bc why. does she work better as a side character.#LET ME MAKE HER A MAIN SOMEHOW CMONNNN#twp#dru blackthorn#if more dru brained ppl have thoughts i will take them bc im gonna have to find a way to include her somehow#like ty & kit & livvy have necromancy. kit & ash & jaime have the fae stuff. and dru’s just kinda along for the ride?#like she doesn’t have personal investment in the big bads in the way the others do. yknow.#like idk ty shouldn’t be learning magic that should be dru make her important outside of romance#and this is for a non tsc world au too so i want her to have relevance beyond being support 😭#like idk make her get really into the technicalities of magic (spiral labyrinth goth style) and be the one to unspool ash’s curse idk#like give her a niche the others don’t have. cmon.#like i’ll figure it out im just frustrated rn bc like. cmon. what is cc gonna do w her. i don’t care abt plots like that
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funny thing about stranger things is that people say it’s against conformity but at the same time have the strongest urge to pair the spares. not everyone needs to be in a romantic relationship. some of yall are anti conformity til it comes to amanormativity and then conformity’s fine actually
#stranger things#like the est. couples beyond mike & el r all going against norms#but by god we don’t need the show to end w everyone paired up. jesus christ#byler#<- bc that is the only tag i go in
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i’d also think that, in order for the party to work as in canon, lucas and dustin would also have to be girls in a lesbyler universe. max at the very least would have to be a boy, and el could go either way. i’d keep the older/younger kids the same because they don’t affect the party’s dynamics as much.
name suggestions for the others:
- lucas could be a nicole, danielle, ashley?
- dustin could be a gretchen, abigail, julia?
i’d think whatever name dustin & lucas have wouldn’t have a nickname, though.
- max could be a casey, madison, addison, some name that we read as more feminine sounding/a more masculine sounding name that has a feminine sounding nickname. my automatic thought comparison is ivan -> vanya, but obviously that’s russian, so. like. maybe jesse, nicholas -> nicky/nickie, stephen -> steph, something like that.
- el could remain as she is, but if she was a boy i’d probably just change jane -> jack or john.
honestly i don’t think they’d drastically change from canon, for the most part. it’d just be taking a look at a different side of things, ie would lucas/nicole want to join basketball or cheerleading (could lead to interesting chrissy dynamics)? how would dustin/gretchen’s nerdiness be taken by the rest of the community especially when her mom is a single mom? how would them playing dnd be viewed by the rest of the community, and the hellfire club? the party as girls would be more accepted as being emotionally close and touchy longer, so would it be how mina & lizzie interacted with each other differently than they do with nicole & gretchen that’d make people side eye them?
max/steph’s plot would still be around the party growing up, him being a strange ‘other’ because he’s the only boy in the group, lizzie not wanting him to be their friend, etc. mina’s kidnapping would have different but also similar connotations to will’s, without explicitly spelling anything out. mina & lizzie’s friendship would be seen more as girls being friends until they don’t show any interest in guys like gretchen & nicole do. el would either be a fun boy who lizzie projects mina onto, or she’d be an acceptable outlet for lizzie to get close to while mina is gone.
okay i have no real stake in lesbyler and i know willow & michelle sound similar to will & mike but like. that’s mina (wilhelmina) and liz (lizzie when young/ elizabeth) to me. what do you mean willow and michelle. where’re the nicknames.
#somethinggg like that. like it’s v important to me that ppl can recognize nuance in how young queer kids r treated but also-#not gender bioessentializing this.#will’s always been known to be slightly diff than the others. so mina would too. etc etc etc#they don’t change who they are as ppl bc we’re exploring an au where they’re a diff gender in some way#for me it’s looking at how being born as that diff gender would change or not change their viewpoints/ppl’s view of them.#lesbyler#for someone who doesn’t really interact w lesbyler i really have opinions abt it.#all my most thought out ideas come from me going ‘well everyone else is clearly writing this wrong’ 😭#like. back when we both thought we were girls i had a really close relationship w a classmate#who we have later both confirmed if one had asked the other out at that time we would’ve said yes.#& everyone else side eyed us but didn’t question it bc we were girls.#so i think abt this kinda thing sometimes. w the diff how boys&girls are raised. & how girls can be emotionally close but boys can’t.#esp now w byler vs lesbyler i guess.
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okay i have no real stake in lesbyler and i know willow & michelle sound similar to will & mike but like. that’s mina (wilhelmina) and liz (lizzie when young/ elizabeth) to me. what do you mean willow and michelle. where’re the nicknames.
#some names have equivalents and michael & elizabeth are to me.#wilhelmina is just bc the dracula parallels r really funny to me#lesbyler#byler#will / mina here would have gone by mina since an incredibly young age bc learning how to spell wilhelmina in kindergarten was horrific#i’m a huge ‘equivalency purist’ alas i need the themes to remain the same regardless for it to work for me#which is why both mina & liz would be butch lesbians as adults.#mina would be wildly bullied for always wearing jonathan’s hand me downs#and tbh it also leads to a v interesting look at gender & queerness. to me.#my mom is a yr younger than the party is in canon & she was bullied out of her freshman yr in hs bc ppl thought she was a lesbian.#god now i’m actually thinking abt this pls 😭
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@cherry-140 and i were discussing who is gonna be more focused on in twp. conclusion is that cc kinda has to do what the fans want so my question is
#gonna be real. i’d KILL for dru & jaime / kit & ash / anush & ty / kit & dru to develop as friends outside the romances.#like throw them in a diff dimension PLSSS focus on something beyond romance for once in ur life.#but yeah kitty should be the focus they’re more plot relevant going by couples#dru & kit & ty but mainly kitty have the necromancy. all r fae connected but specifically jaime kit ash.#kit also has mother hawthorn & ash as the seelie queen and both r janus connected via jace.#the question is who gets lucifer lmaoooooo.#but yeah my largest fears r a) the characters’ friendships r sidelined in favor of focusing solely on romances#and b) that ty and ash aren’t developed as much as dru & kit. (i would also kill for jaime to be main team.)#bc ty & dru r v ‘inciting incident’ and ash & kit r v ‘who the plots actually abt’ but#ty & kit have the extra added emotional connection that we haven’t seen developed in ash yet#& that dru has purposefully been kept out of by ty (bc of. necromancy. yknow.) so far#if cc manages to find a plot point that’d work well to make ash & dru like. center important than cool#but as is from what we know id wager a lot of the heavy plot will be kitty’s#which like lmao i’d guess cc puts dru and ash front & center regardless bc this is ya#but from a narrative pov it makes more sense for kit & ty to be ‘the mains’
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i become re-obsessed with the concept of khun being trans and being raised to be a princess of zahard every time i think about tower of god. just… yeah, he’s always had a rebellious spirit. but how complicated would it get to realize you’re a boy in a scenario where everyone is telling you that it’s better to be a girl and placing your whole value in being a girl?
like, a khun who realizes something’s up but isn’t quite certain if it’s because of how his family operates or if he’s uncomfortable with his gender. he’d be the runner-up if his sister failed, so he’d be expected to compete with her to be the best in eventuality to compete to be a princess. when he wins (because he was trying to make maria win, but she’s killed because of his request to have her be the princess, and his older sister still kills herself because of the shame), his mother wouldn’t have been an outcast, but his family still would’ve been ripped apart.
it’d also be so interesting after he starts climbing as khun, hiding being a princess & portraying himself as a failed khun son. he’d be the one with the knowledge that he can’t get close to people unless he’s willing to risk their lives. he’d know to put himself into a coma so zahard can’t control him. he’d have a lot more connections and doors opened if he publicly operated as a princess of zahard, but is he willing to do that?
#kinda obsessed w khun & baam’s separation happening & then baam is jue viole grace & khun is the princess of zahard aa#like not a lot would change but also like. a lot would. simultaneously#tower of god#khunbam#khun aguero agnis#i also give aa adori as a mentor of sorts as parallel to jinsung w baam lmao#and it’d be an extra layer onto why he can’t risk the appearance of being in a relationship w baam#like. he’s been a rebel since he was a kid but how much of this personality came about bc of how he was treated as a khun son?#esp when he’s young he strikes me strongly as a ‘knows something is wrong but doesn’t quite get what is wrong at 1st bc of his inexperience’#id also think he has the added goal of killing zahard as well here. not just his dad.#i’ve seen ppl make always a girl!khuns & trans khuns who come out prior to the tournament but like. this concept is so interesting to me.
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anyways. lesbyler would both be butch. will would be the girl who’s a tad too tomboy for people’s comfort, and mike would be the girl who starts out dressing however her mom wanted her too (stereotypically feminine) who eventually becomes more comfortable with dressing more masc.
#can understand why ppl like to make them butch/femme dichotomy but like… oh my god. that’s not them. those r ur ocs#stranger things#byler#mike wheeler#will byers#lesbyler#i don’t have a real bone in this game but by god. seeing femme will makes me feel satan possessing me more & more every time.#when the butch/femme dichotomy possesses u & u lose the plot abt why the ‘bullied for not conforming kid’ was bullied for not conforming </3
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what do you mean ‘bi mike would be important because it’d be saying he has the option to conform but chooses to go against the grain’. why are you essentially saying ‘bi people are only queer so long as they’re in a relationship with someone of the same gender’.
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crying again thinking about how kit is repeatedly surprised by his own feelings of love or protectiveness or desire to care for people
#kit thinking he doesnt feel like he's good at comforting people and is not worthy of being loved..... i need to walk into the ocean#its the way he never got to figure out who he is in relation to other people and the only person who actually knew him didn't love him...#kit saying that he kind of gets what ty did now a bit more bc of mina... god...#he has such a loving heart and feels so deeply for others i want to die thinking about how he thinks he isnt good enough#<- PREV YES. EXACTLY.#him thinking abt mina & the part abt how dru makes him wish he had a little sister constantly r in my brain#he wants interpersonal connections!!!!! johnny purposely kept him from being able to make them!!!
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arguments about what label mike would use/whether he’s bi or gay are always interesting but in an exhausting way. like. post s2 bi mike was the default for bylers because m/levens would crucify them for ‘disrespecting mike’s canon sexuality’ and it’s only seemingly recently (around s4 or so?) that people are more comfortable saying that mike was never romantically interested in el
#i’m a ‘he could be either but either way he was never romantically interested in el’#i think he wanted to be her friend & bc she was a girl & bc of the other comments he slid this into ‘romantic interest’#stranger things#byler#mike wheeler#like i’m aroace & have kissed friends before. man was comphetting ‘never close to girls beyond my family’ HARD#and also she looked like will <3#& then u had the ppl who were like eww why r u shipping kids while actively shipping m/leven & lum/x
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the tragic thing about kit is that. to me. he desperately wants to be someone’s first choice.
#twp#kit herondale#the wicked powers#ty chose livvy. johnny chose rosemary. jem & tessa chose mina. yknow#everyone has someone they care abt ‘more’ than kit#it’s not like. logical. bc like obv ty is gonna care abt his twin. of course jessa will look after their toddler above a ~15 yr old#but it does make sense why a horrifically neglected would want to be someone’s first choice#which is why i enjoy making kit & ash parabatai so much. or chosen sibs when that’s not possible#bc ash’s brand of like obsessive love/care would work so well with kit.
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something i will never tolerate in this fandom is people thinking that kit is just a dumdum like it's really not appreciated enough how smart this boy is! like honestly, i think this is proven in the mere fact that ty is in love with him like tiberius blackthorn is attracted to intelligence, people!!! and kit is a wise wise guy despite being a little silly at times!!! i need to scream this to the world!!!
#yeahhh kitty is negatively affected by the fandoms ‘smart x dumb ship’ insistence#esp bc kit is smart. even if it manifests differently than tys intelligence#🫵 fandom has fallen for the ‘lone cold genius’ trope that’s inaccurate and should be dismantled
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GUYSSS THIS IS SUPER IMPORTANT
I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING MIND BLOWING.
YOU KNOW HOW WE KEEP TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO THE TITLES OF THE WICKED POWER BOOKS ARE REFERRING TO.
HOW PEOPLE ARE UNCONSCIOUSLY ASSUMING THAT KIT MAY BE THE LAST KING OF FAERIE AND ASH THE LAST PRINCE OF HELL.
LISTEN UP! I THINK YOU MAY BE WRONG.
For those of you who have read the lost hours series know that James Herondale was the only person able to use the Herondale gun made by Christopher Lightwood. Now, I do not think that he was able to use the gun because he was Herondale. It was mentioned that he LOST THE ABILITY TO USE THE GUN AFTER HIS GRANDFATHER, BELIAL ( A PRINCE OF HELL!) DIED!
HE WAS BLE TO USE THE GUN BECAUSE HE WAS RELATED TO A PRINCE OF HELL.
With this we can assume that people who have a connection to the princes of hell can use the gun. It is the only firearm that can be used against a demon. The Princes of Hell are the ones controlling the demons. This is probably why someone with a connection or affiliation with them may be the only ones able to hone a weapon like the gun.
who else can use the gun?
KIT HERONDALE.
Guess what the name of the second book is
THE LAST PRINCE OF HELL.
IT ISN'T THE HERONDALE GUN! IT IS THE PRINCE OF HELL GUN (that sounds awful). Kit and James being Herondales is probably just a coincidence.
Now, when you think of Ash being the last prince of hell think again. Because all evidence points to Kit.
Let me know if you guys want a separate post on all the evidences that prove Kit is the last prince of hell or may be symbolic of it. You can ask me personally for it or in the comments. I just need some time to arrange the information.
#nah fr the real question is why can kit use that gun when what we know abt it is that u need a hell prince patron for it essentially#hence my lucifer johnny theory. bc like. how the fuck can kit use it.#the other argument i’ve seen is that it’s connected to his status as (desc of) the first heir#‘last king of faerie’ is interesting bc tech it could apply to ash kit or kieran#however i’d guess more likely whoever is gonna be slotted into the arthur role#OR it’s kit. bc unless the fae realms combine ash is solely heir to seelie & kieran is solely king of unseelie.#kits the only one we know who’s connected to both thrones.#but yeah. kit is either got powers due to the first heir ‘blessings’ or he’s related/patronized by a prince of hell. w/o being aware of it.#& this is esp sus bc most theory ive seen indicate lucifer as a big bad for twp.
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tbh i don’t even necessarily think will is gonna be possessed in s5. i think it’s gonna be like how dracula began the process to turn mina into a vampire; henry is going to try to make will like him.
(and mina resists this as much as possible and is the key role in killing dracula by spying on him to figure out where he is, and after she and van helsing go to take out the vampire women, jonathan and quincey strike the final blows to dracula. are you picking up what i’m picking up.)
#stranger things#will byers#hence the possessed looks and all.#stranger things season 5#anyways. i’m amazed more ppl don’t look at parallels between dracula and stranger things.#like i know the inspo reccs r all movie focused. but like. jesus. its so similar to me.#mina’s maiden name is murray and jonathan’s boss (who leaves everything to him & mina when he dies)’ name is hawkins.#mina & draculas relationship is intensely similar to will & henrys. or perhaps dracula & jonathan’s considering jon’s the ‘first victim’.#jon gives mina a gun & plans to kill the others if they try to kill vampire!mina & plans to turn into a vamp w mina if that’s what happens.#u picking up what im picking up. hey mike wheeler
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huh let’s talk abt how hawkins may be derived from dracula, actually. has there been any talk into how the duffers decided on hawkins as a name or not
#stranger things#byler#< target audience#there’s so many parallels. to me. as someone who enjoys dracula.#however how much of this is my personal insanity and how much is real.#i see a lot of discussion abt hawkins as a place but i haven’t seen any abt the name itself????
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ty’s new obsession officially unlocking as soon as kit enters the institute will never not be funny like kit is ty’s fav puzzle <3

(ty is just like me - he lets his hobbies consume his entire soul oh how i love him)
#kit ‘trust issues’ herondale vs ty ‘i want to study u in ur natural habitat’ blackthorn. who will win.#emma is so funny for that ‘unusual and interesting’ tho.
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something particularly funny about ty loving animals and especially wild ones considering kit acts like a feral animal half of the time. after they get together ty talks a lot about kit to a friend and when the friend and kit are introduced to each other the friend is genuinely surprised that kit is a human and not like irene
#ty pspspsps-ing outside kits door when he’s staying in the la institute to try to get kit to get near#just as fascinated & willing to study kit as w his favorite animals#kit herondale#twp#the wicked powers#ty blackthorn#also thinking abt fae connections w both of them w animals & the wild & names & lying
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