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Ernest Bieler (Swiss, 1863-1948)
Jeune fille aux cheveux noirs (Young Girl with Black Hair) - tempera and pencil on paper on cardboard - original frame - Art Nouveau
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The traitor (I love him)
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Alternatively Iríssë's mother-name is something else and she instead picked "Aredhel" in honor of the recently deceased Arakáno.
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Random guy (?) from the Duomo Museum in Milan found on my phone while looking for a picture. He's giving me Eöl/vampire. I love him.


@peasant-player. don't remember if I sent you these before ?
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part 2 of my copper-haired Maedhros au (with even more oxidation thanks to hanging on a cliff for 30 years 😬)
… and some much later aftermath with Curufin and Celebrimbor




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Ar-pharazon literally went and gave Sauron the position his uncle had because it had fallen out of fashion or sth
#your daily reminder the kings of númenor were the high priests up untill they stopped being interested I guess#this is part of why it's such a big deal that gondor doesn't have a king btw...#ar-pharazon#númenor#sauron#silmarillion#edennil posts
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#* an obligatory pause to make myself sad by adding “and without his idiot brother" #** I am pretty sure that whatever melkor knew his reaction to it was… intense. in a bad way. #*** I'm not saying “námo the vala of autism” it's too much of an an oversimplification. But also. Not entirely wrong.
re: parallels, I have no idea whatsoever about the source (if I was to jump out on a limb I'd pick one of the two greats, but like, solely on probability and it doesn't feel that much like them); it seems to be... fairly common fanon feels like the right thing to call it, oddly.
I suppose if one has to bother about something so removed from experience it's neat to be able make it about you anyway? if it makes you feel better and all. idk, the point is I like the... fanon, I think it fits and to use a personal metaphor, ties a nice knot but I also always thought the discussion was a decidedly curious use of time lol
I tbh thought you didn't exactly go for these kinds of parallels ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
re the post: anyway I'm fascinated that you took the idea in the same direction I was thinking of going in the replies? what with the idea that all the valar possibly have their own 'secrets'... tbh the silm only seems to imply that sometimes they 'take counsel together' in connection to the particular things Eru told each? but then it would be a little odd if only manwë and namo had mysteries in their keeping? I don't exactly have an opinion.
I wonder tbh if it's 'may not tell' or 'can't tell' by the way... the fate of men isn't particularly 'difficult' I guess...(says the girl who famously has seen and heard everything there is to know about the fate of men xd...) but you'd expect mysteries of the sort to be less-than-easily unveiled? in the conditions in which they are known as mysteries at least.
@edennill that conversation in the comments made me thinking:
The Valar and ✨facts✨ they know (or not)
Warning (there is a longer post about this warning, but I put it in my queue somewhere) some of how I see the Valar is very influenced by another book (yea it's "till we have faces") and so there may be non-canon assumptions and I may not even notice some of them.
I'm almost certain that Manwë knows that the elves will be at the Second Singing.
Why? I don't know why. Personality I suppose… He would ask himself this question. And with his personality (huge amounts of hope, depending on source maybe most of all the Valar + I think he prefers simple answers) it would be obvious to him that the answer is "Yes." Because how could they not? Obviously they must be.
I'm describing that as if it was a logical reasoning, but I think the line between reasoning and revelation is blurry or nonexistent here. He just knows.
Ouch. I just realized that this means Manwë appreciated even better how terrible (if it was valid but anyway... the very idea they had) was the Oath of Feanor, I mean the Everlasting Darkness clause.
And Varda does not, she wouldn't ask herself this. It's not that he doesn't love Elves. It's just… She much better understands that things are more complex (not the best word but I lack a better one) than the Valar understand and to many things the answer is "secret third option" and also I think she would, at least in this case, be more able to function without having an answer.
But on the other hand Manwë assumes that the Second Music would be just like the First Music but with Men and Elves* and more beautiful.
Varda knows it'll be different, different in ways she can't comprehend. She knows, or at least has the intuition, that the Valar would change at some point too (yes, now we're getting areas heavily impacted by the vibe of TWHF, even extrapolated from it– this is another discussion. Not here, not now.) That the whole thing would be… things are not in their final shapes yet, and this includes the Valar. (Yes, this is a very debatable HC and I can imagine Tolkien and CSL arguing heavily with me and/or each other, but it makes sense to me more than vanilla Silm)
She probably understands most of this than any other Vala. Well, more than any other Vala can and is willing to understand at least. Well. And she doesn't throw a tantrum about it.** I love her.
There are very likely things, smaller things that… Each Vala has some things that he or she knows and the others don't. (Open question: what about Melkor? IDK, I'll probably think about it at some point, but thare's a risk that it may result in some early-TWHF-level creepy stuff which I'll love but probably better not share)
I imagine that for some of them (especially Tulkas and Nessa) those would be much smaller and less awesome things. Just little things, but still cool.
And yes, Námo knows most of what will happen. and yet, "what will happen" isn't all that matters. And TBH Námo is demonstrably bad at knowing what people feel ("Not the first one" is… a particular*** thing to say in that moment.) So even disregarding the things that happen after Námo's horizon (as those discussed above), there is a lot of space.
PS: Not phone, but late evening, there may be typos. Or confusing wording. Sorry.
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Maglor, after Smetham's The Mandolin Player
#do *not* ask me what that instrument is supposed to be exactly it's smetham's fault#...I was going to save a second version to compare but krita booted me out and I lost it permanently:(#silmarillion#silm#maglor#tolkien#silm art#edennil draws#edennil posts
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I've wanted to make a pin design for so long and I think I have enough to make my dream come true! Starting with something somewhat simple for my first one - I've been thinking of a Feanorian Star with a loop so a silmaril-like crystal can dangle.
My idea was to give the impression that the light of the star, their family legacy, is draining into the silmaril!
Not sure how hard I want to show that idea so feel free to sound off in replies or tags if you have a fav :]
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Menelluin
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the sun first pass lake Mithrim
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Fate is—hmm. I do think it's used in far too many interrelated senses in the musical, but yes, the one reading I can think of that works in this instance is the Doom. Or potentially, "Truth can bring about an unlooked-for eucatastrophe"? Idk.
"Across the stony ridge" sounds like something inserted for rhyme or rhythm, but... the Pelori maybe? He's saying that he found Truth in Middle-Earth? And since the Helcaraxe is mentioned a lot all over, I assume it's what snow refers to in this passage...
"A servant..."—to me it implies that it's there waiting to be discovered by anyone who wants to know it? That it's humble? Or potentially to underscore that it's shamefully ignored ("abandoned") by most?
But yes, I agree with you, the most notable thing here is that Finrod is definitely not addressing the Valar. All the vagueness notwithstanding.
I am once again not normal about Finrod in Istynia
#what was the state of religious philosophy among the general populace in russia c. 2000 anyway?#presumably less clear than in poland anyway? given *gestures vaguely at the 20th century*#I'm not sure if I would have trusted the average person here to be entirely well read in this regard even then but.#the kind of Tolkien fans that write whole musicals on the subject are not representative samples of the populace by any measure#edennil comments#finrod rock opera#eri-pl
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I am once again not normal about Finrod in Istynia
#like. the implications of the whole premise#i mean. this is a prayer. does the writer realise that? because it is quite explicitly *some sort of prayer*#also. the very first lines call back to fingon on thangorodrim? and what fingon very notably did on thangorodrim?#edennil posts#silmarillion#finrod rock opera#finrod
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Yes, it does just about double Sauron's general failure to protect his master's interests in the Leithain, doesn't it?
Meanwhile, the dungeon scene itself in this telling has the curious benefit of involving:
Finrod: full panic mode
Beren: resigned panic mode
Sauron: outwardly-composed panic mode
I won't laugh because it's all quite terrible, but still.
I'm thinking about the Lay of Leithain again and... it never really made sense to me that after learning their identities Sauron would plan to keep Finrod for 'interrogation', and yet immediately have Beren put to death; not after all those years he spent futilely chasing Morgoth's #1 Most Wanted, you know? I always consigned this part to the stack of alternate versions of canon that don't fit anywhere in particular tbh.
...Except: (1) Sauron was sent out with an army to chase him out. (2) Beren subsequently just... disappeared for a while. I have to wonder now, what are the odds that Sauron already cashed in on whatever favour from Morgoth success would have gotten him and had a nasty shock that had him trying to cover up for his prior presumption before anyone could know better?
#Sauron really is hilariously incompetent in the Leithain tbh#Hilariously incompetent in the face of fate really! But I don't think Morgoth accepts a good excuse.#sauron#edennil comments#eri-pl
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I'm thinking about the Lay of Leithain again and... it never really made sense to me that after learning their identities Sauron would plan to keep Finrod for 'interrogation', and yet immediately have Beren put to death; not after all those years he spent futilely chasing Morgoth's #1 Most Wanted, you know? I've always consigned this part to the stack of alternate versions of canon that don't fit anywhere in particular tbh.
...Except: (1) Sauron was sent out with an army to chase him out. (2) Beren subsequently just... disappeared for a while. I have to wonder now, what are the odds that Sauron already cashed in on whatever favour from Morgoth success would have gotten him and had a nasty shock that had him trying to cover up for his prior presumption before anyone could know better?
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at least the intonation was the right one xd
Artanis: Why did you ask Finrod, of all people, to help with the repairs?
Caranthir: To be honest, I was curious to hear him swear for once in our life.
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