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i sort of dislike how no one in the system community talks about still going through trauma even after finding out you’re a system.

of course i don’t want people to overshare to the point of putting themselves in danger. but im still in an abusive household. i know people who are still in abusive households. the system community always talks about splitting from “minor” things or triggers, but not new trauma or repetitive trauma.

i’m glad some people are doing and functioning better than they were as a child. but don’t forget the rest of us. we’re still here too.

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just saw a post where someone put “detrans dni” and like… hey we should be supporting detransitioned people bc if we don’t terfs will

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How are you both a polymind and suspected system?/genq/nfta

Well they’re different things, and I experience them both very differently!

My minds don’t effect me at all, they’re just there, but my suspected parts do affect my daily life. I experience symptoms that could point toward me having a dissociative disorder, but I know for a fact that my polymindence isn’t caused by those symptoms.

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I feel like ppl don’t see this as a big deal bc they don’t see DID/OSDD as real disabilities,like it’s just some silly online label to them.

What if someone were stealing posts about autism and making them about “being silly” or smth?? What if someone stole posts about schizophrenia and made it about daydreaming?? DID/OSDD are DISORDERS just like every other neurodivergency. The fact that y’all(endos) treat it like it isn’t says a LOT about how you view disabled people.

It’s not “alter disorder”. When an endo spreads misinfo about DID/OSDD bc they just think it’s all about alters that’s already ableist by itself, but stealing posts about it and turning it in so some fun little game is some fucked up shit.

What post was stolen? I'm confused

Basically there's a couple of accounts made by (pro) endos that's literally just them copy and pasting anti endo posts, just to edit them slightly then post in endo tags, if they even edit them at all. Just straight up taking posts without permission and warning for the sole purpose of making them ""inclusive"".

Basically they think we're all asshole bigots who don't deserve to have our boundaries respected. Afaik, they haven't snatched any of our posts, but they've definitely done it to several of our mutuals. There's never any credit, never permission, nothing, they just take the posts word for word, change the tags and maybe the wording a little, then act like they're being inclusive when they're just making CDD experiences about endos.

I know to some people, it may seem like we're overreacting, but I need yall to understand;

They are blatantly, deliberately, and intentionally ignoring boundaries, talking over CDD systems, and invading our spaces by doing this. They are taking posts about OUR EXPERIENCES, and making it about endos without our permission or knowledge. When you hear "endos are making our disorder about them", this is what we mean by that. THAT'S FUCKING ABLEIST.

If you can't respect a boundary as small as "don't copy my posts to put in endo tags", there's no reason for us to believe you will respect any other boundary we set. The message this kind of thing sends, is that we don't deserve to have our boundaries respected and that we don't deserve to have separate spaces away from endos.

-Milkyway

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since it's a hot topic in syscourse id like to present this study/paper made in 2004;

Therapeutic Hazards of Treating Child Alters as Real Children in Dissociative Identity Disorder by Shielagh R. Shusta-Hochberg

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ABSOLUTELY

Btw, I would prefer “mind” as a term referring to a member of a polymind to be exclusive to polyminds.

We made our own terms, let us keep them at least ffs

- 🎻

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Do you think turning off asks for a bit might improve things? Ppl are pussies, they’ll probably not harass you as much if they have to dm you directly or reblog bc it’ll expose their account

I took a break from aspengenic, came back feeling better, and then immediately got bullshit for answering an ask from an anon talking about concerning shit on a particular system's blog.

And I have that system blocked. They even apparently have me blocked, but yet they're still making vague posts about me.

Aspengenic is fucking exhausting. I've been back for a few days and I'm already fucking exhausted and about to just delete the entire thing, plus this blog.

At this point, I'm so fucking over it, but admittedly, logging into it is like an addiction that I need to cut ties with. Even if that means axing the entire thing.

Sorry if I vanish and the blogs are gone, but this shit is fucking ridiculous and I don't appreciate being called a fucking pedo and creep and shit because I run an archive and answered an ask about someone else that an anon sent me.

If that user had been Aspen or MilkTeaSystem, you guys wouldn't have sent me this fucking garbage. But because they're higher up in the system community food chain, you guys did.

And boy howdy, am I fucking sick of the shit. These blogs aren't even fun to run anymore, it's a fucking chore. It's not even a job because I'm not getting paid. I do it because it's worth documenting and people do appreciate it and thank me, but this bullshit is so not worth it anymore.

My mental health is not good, I have a serious panic disorder that results in seizures if I get too anxious. I have personal trauma and issues I'm working through outside of this, I have two jobs, I'm disabled, and this is so not worth the added stress.

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This is exactly how my time-stuck and little parts feel. They’re fully aware of how our life functions and what’s happened, but mentally they still feel the same as they did back then. They still flinch when ppl raise their hands or walk towards them, they still struggle to initiate conversations even with close friends and family, and they don’t share the bond with the people I’m close to because they’re always under the assumption that my new friends are just like my old friends and have bad intentions.

When ppl talk about alters being stuck in trauma time, they usually talk about those alters not knowing the body's friends, or recognizing where they live, or any number of physical reality changes. And we've definitely had that experience! But more often what "alters being stuck in trauma time" means for us is those alters know basic physical reality facts, but their emotional reality has not changed at all. So they might know our best friend, but they aren't connected to how that friend and I interact. They respond to everything like the trauma is still happening, so they expect any mistake to be met with punishment, they expect the ppl around them to suddenly hurt them without warning, they have no ability to use our modern coping methods, and they have no concept of anything being other than the abusive environment of our youth.

So yeah, our trauma-stuck alters typically know we live in a different house and our dad isn't coming home, and they know things like we graduated college and the names of our friends. What we struggle with a lot more is getting them to understand that this current time isn't just our childhood with new set dressings.

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I long for someone I can play with, I can growl at and they respond. Someone who I can go to conventions and on walks and to the pool. Finding other therians is so hard...｡⁠:ﾟ⁠(⁠;⁠´⁠∩⁠`⁠;⁠)ﾟ⁠:⁠｡

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It’s always funny—no, pathetic—watching endogenic systems spit venom at traumagenic ones for “trusting psychiatry,” like that makes us obedient little pets licking a boot. Newsflash: I’m not loyal to doctors. I’m loyal to truth. And the truth is, you don’t get to claim a TRAUMA disorder without trauma. That’s not elitism. That’s definition.

You don’t get to cherry-pick clinical terms while simultaneously denying the disorder they come from. You don’t get to walk into trauma-centered spaces wearing a mask you made out of someone else’s suffering and call that resistance. That’s not defiance. That’s theft. And if you think disrespecting survivors is punk, then you’ve clearly never bled for anything in your life.

I’m not here to coddle delusions. I’m not here to clap while you cosplay pain you never lived. You want to feel special? Get a new hobby. Because this—this identity built from shattered memories and carved from years of surviving what should’ve killed us? It doesn’t belong to you.

Being punk means burning down systems that hurt people. Not stealing the scars of those they’ve already broken.

You’re not punk. You’re a parasite. And no matter how loud you scream or how many buzzwords you throw like confetti, you’ll never be what we are.

You’ll never get it.

And you’ll never be us.

-Mistfits

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Why not just do the research yourself? Genuinely, who is stopping you from googling stuff?? /nm

(Directed at asker)

I know I’m a non traumagenic (endo) non disordered collective, but can I pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease keep replying to your posts with genuine questions and opinions as long as I stay respectful/don’t insult anyone?

it’s so rare to find anti endos that let me research and find sources for things without attacking me. I really like being in and having discussions with both sides of the community because it helps us keep an open mind and stay up to date about things happening within the entire community without getting too much bias from one side or another.

once again: pleeeeaaasseeee, I’ll be nice I promise I just want to ask questions and find out about stuff.

I'd rather not

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Most medical sources I’ve read consider integration to be a form of fusion. /nm

Common things in DID that no one likes to talk about

- switches that feel like you’re turning into someone else rather than them taking control (non-possessive switching)

- being unable to recognize amnesia until something requires you to remember something you forgot

- staying in the front for weeks at a time

- being unable to communicate with alters internally (this is so common why does everyone act like this is weird?)

- feeling like you don’t have any problems because you feel disconnected from them

- constant denial

- rapid identity, label, and appearance changes

- comorbidities, particularly personality disorders, anxiety disorders, and the schizophrenia spectrum

- autism (there is science pointing towards autistic people being more susceptible to trauma)

- disliking your system

- wanting final fusion

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On this note, ppl just straight up not understanding what fusion is.

“I don’t wanna fuse, I just want less dissociation & amnesia, and better communication between alters.” Thats fusion, you just described fusion. Fusion is simply lessening the barriers within your mind to allow your parts to better work together as a cohesive personality, that’s literally it.

Common things in DID that no one likes to talk about

- switches that feel like you’re turning into someone else rather than them taking control (non-possessive switching)

- being unable to recognize amnesia until something requires you to remember something you forgot

- staying in the front for weeks at a time

- being unable to communicate with alters internally (this is so common why does everyone act like this is weird?)

- feeling like you don’t have any problems because you feel disconnected from them

- constant denial

- rapid identity, label, and appearance changes

- comorbidities, particularly personality disorders, anxiety disorders, and the schizophrenia spectrum

- autism (there is science pointing towards autistic people being more susceptible to trauma)

- disliking your system

- wanting final fusion

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YES SAME bc it further spreads the idea that DID/OSDD is just having “multiple people in your head” and not an actual disability.

Gives the same vibes as ppl who claim that alters are all separate individual people. They’re not separate people, they’re fragments of one single person.

am i the only person that hates the word "plural" when talking abt systems

is that just me

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“I’ve done extensive research on DID” and then they say this shit lmfao

Calling it a cult is fucking wild

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Lmao what are they so mad about?? Your original question was just asking ppls opinions, not stating any “facts”

Don't force faunagenders into the alterhuman label, jackass.

i haven’t forced a single thing. all i did was ask a question and explain why MY gender is related to MY nonhumanity. this seems like misplaced anger