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As long as Star doesn’t fumble him, I think Splashtail is now my second favourite warriors villain

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Is it weird I don’t actually agree with everything Sunnyfall said in her Gender in Warrior Cats video? I mean I definitely agree with some points but not all

No it’s not weird at all, just because you think someone makes good points on a topic it doesn’t necessarily mean you agree with everything they say about it

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It’s that time of year again for the dirtynoodles plushes

This time it’s Shadow, Alder, Brair, and Jay

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not sure if anybody has asked you this before 🥲 but who do you think will be the protags of arc 9, and what are you looking forward for the plot to be about?

I don’t believe anyone has!

I have some theories

After Wind I suspect we will see Leafkit of WindClan as a protagonist. We are long overdue a WindClan protagonist now so it would be very surprising to me if we didn’t get one. I say Leafkit because she got focus in the last book but failing her, any of the kits honestly. I feel like it would be beneficial to have WindClan reintroduced to us through young eyes since we haven’t had a POV in there chronologically since Crowfeather’s Trial I believe. And we know it won’t be Whistlepaw thanks to that recent article on the official site.

As for the others (assuming there will be three) I suspect the clans they will be from will be RiverClan and ThunderClan. At this point ThunderClan is a required tradition, and I think it would be beneficial to have eyes inside RiverClan to see the aftermath of ASC.

So for ThunderClan I hope the protagonist would be either a SpotStem kit (which I think is the most likely option) or one of the warriors like Eaglewing or Honeyfur which have just never done anything in their lives so we can get to know them and their generation better.

As for RiverClan, either one of Splashtail’s new baby siblings, having to deal with the awful legacy their older brother is undoubtedly going to leave behind for them. Or a RiverClan warrior struggling to deal with everything they have recently gone through, and perhaps even dissatisfied with the new leadership. Because let’s face it whoever RiverClan is going to have as a leader is going to have a drawback. Frostpaw? Young as hell. Icewing? Stood by Tigerstar when almost none of RiverClan did, and because of her history in ShadowClan as an exile there could be doubts as to whether she would ever actually oppose ShadowClan if needed. Mothwing? Former atheist. Duskfur? Quite old, which is something Icewing and Mothwing also has going against them, would RiverClan cats want another cat on the edge of retirement given nine lives like Mistystar was? Bee? He’s an outsider.

I think either route with RiverClan could be very interesting. Or even both at once if the Splashtail sibling is as politically minded as their brother lol

In terms of what I’m looking forward to about the plot? I am praying for Brightheart relevancy, even if it means her imminent demise. I feel that she may be the most likely candidate to be that old friend from the first arc the website teased, she has gotten a whole bunch of merch lately, I don’t see why they wouldn’t capitalise on her more in the books before her death.

Also I always love meeting the new protagonists, I get very excited about that. I also would love to see how our asc protagonists are getting on after the dust hopefully settles.

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I'm assuming you're not on Twitter (lucky) but there's a lot of Thistleclaw discourse going on rn and I need to return to tumblr to feel sane

I am unfortunately on Twitter a little bit nowadays lol. But I am glad to say I have missed this particular discourse and hope to continue so.

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A PLAGUE WOULD BE SO COOL

I’m glad you agree lol

My main concern would be if it would be enough to fill a substantial part of an arc? But I hope so, especially if it’s something that herbs cannot cure. I think as well as cutting down population a plague could be a good way to really put all this recent unity and clan swapping to the test, because obviously mixing cats from different clans together is just going to increase the spread. You know how Berryheart and co blamed Fringewhisker for bringing in the greencough that killed Rowankit? Just imagine that view seeded into every single clan, and perhaps there being a case where this does actually happen (someone switching clans and spreading the illness with them) and it just propels the anti clan swapping views around the lake.

Also I think it could be really interesting to see if the leaders cancelled gatherings because of this and seeing each clan deal with basically being cut off from the others, with maybe each clan only having one or two messengers who have to end up living slightly separately to ensure they don’t cause even further spread. Would clans separate into healthy and unhealthy like TC did in po3? Would certain cats turn towards religion to an extreme degree, and would others turn their back on it entirely? Blaming StarClan for this suffering?

What if one of our protagonists is in love with a cat in another clan and does selfishly risk meeting with their beloved, perhaps they could even end up being the one to introduce the illness to their clan due to this.

And then throw in some troublemakers on top of that (eg Sleekwhisker or Sol), and I hope enough content could be there to fill the basis of a full arc.

I feel though a lot of this could be reminiscent of Covid so I don’t know how well it would be received because of that, they might not want to risk an illness plot involving social distancing so soon after the pandemic.

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No worries the fault is mine I think I understand fully now thanks!

Yep I agree with that. I really hope StarClan gets criticism at the end for kind of causing this whole mess through their initial silence. But I fear the message will be “wow StarClan is so great we should never question them ever because that would be totally morally bad”. I personally don’t think they’re being misused per say but I feel the conversation that cats should have at the end about StarClan isn’t what’s going to happen.

Splashtail sucks so bad as a villain. The way the Erins make their first villains who haven’t been evil outsiders into godless heathens who force their clanmates to fight and cackle when lying about getting starclan’s nine lives removes any excitement I might have had about him and Curlfeather.

I personally love Splashtail sorry! I think he’s great. And Curlfeather too. (Edit: this kind of turned into a little bit me gushing about them so if you don’t want to see that skip to the last paragraph)

I love how Curlfeather tried to manipulate an apprentice into being her follower but instead she ended up making a monster. I think Curlfeather only killed as she saw absolutely necessary for her plan and probably would have stopped with just Reedwhisker and maybe anyone who found out the truth later down the line.

And then Splashtail is young, inexperienced, naive, but also has been radicalised by Curlfeather and become more extreme than she ever was. He’s running mostly on luck and that soon will run out for him I think now he’s acting more arrogant and more extreme in front of his clanmates. I saw a post a week or two ago saying about how Splashtail is trying to emulate being Curlfeather and her plan but lacking her experience, her bonds etc and so now he’s flailing, just doing what he thinks she would do but with little understanding of, well everything that she had going for her.

He’s a really young warrior. I’m pretty sure he and Swiftpaw (at time of death) are about the same age. He’s in way over his head but doesn’t realise it, and is giddy with arrogance and ambition as a result. He cackles in the face of StarClan because he thinks he’s won and he’s on top of the world and he has fooled everyone that matters, he makes his clanmates fight because now he has the means to take revenge on a wrong without fully thinking out the consequences of logistics of such a move.

That’s just my opinion, I love him, but I do also get why you don’t, I can definitely see how this approach doesn’t work for other people, particularly with the motivations of the two making it look like this arc is going to give us the message of “StarClan is perfect”, and with just how young Splashtail is as well as how he acts, I feel that kind of thing either works for you or doesn’t.

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Splashtail sucks so bad as a villain. The way the Erins make their first villains who haven’t been evil outsiders into godless heathens who force their clanmates to fight and cackle when lying about getting starclan’s nine lives removes any excitement I might have had about him and Curlfeather.

I personally love Splashtail sorry! I think he’s great. And Curlfeather too. (Edit: this kind of turned into a little bit me gushing about them so if you don’t want to see that skip to the last paragraph)

I love how Curlfeather tried to manipulate an apprentice into being her follower but instead she ended up making a monster. I think Curlfeather only killed as she saw absolutely necessary for her plan and probably would have stopped with just Reedwhisker and maybe anyone who found out the truth later down the line.

And then Splashtail is young, inexperienced, naive, but also has been radicalised by Curlfeather and become more extreme than she ever was. He’s running mostly on luck and that soon will run out for him I think now he’s acting more arrogant and more extreme in front of his clanmates. I saw a post a week or two ago saying about how Splashtail is trying to emulate being Curlfeather and her plan but lacking her experience, her bonds etc and so now he’s flailing, just doing what he thinks she would do but with little understanding of, well everything that she had going for her.

He’s a really young warrior. I’m pretty sure he and Swiftpaw (at time of death) are about the same age. He’s in way over his head but doesn’t realise it, and is giddy with arrogance and ambition as a result. He cackles in the face of StarClan because he thinks he’s won and he’s on top of the world and he has fooled everyone that matters, he makes his clanmates fight because now he has the means to take revenge on a wrong without fully thinking out the consequences of logistics of such a move.

That’s just my opinion, I love him, but I do also get why you don’t, I can definitely see how this approach doesn’t work for other people, particularly with the motivations of the two making it look like this arc is going to give us the message of “StarClan is perfect”, and with just how young Splashtail is as well as how he acts, I feel that kind of thing either works for you or doesn’t.

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we’ve just been getting more and more themed litters. While I admit there’s a good chance hat it’s just because of the Erin’s creativeness running dry regarding naming the new kittens, I like to think it’s just because cats keep thinking it’s cute and so themed litters is becoming more and more popular.

Yeah same.

Before the themed litters we were getting names like Flipkit, Thriftkit, Flutterkit, Snapkkt etc, cute but the well of names was definitely running dry I think lol

I think they just tried too hard to make them unique, and we ended up with a lot of more unconventional names all at once rather than more naturally spaced out

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Very interesting to me that all the kits introduced in this book have strong group themes. Grass, leaf, and branch, and float, rapid, and trout. I get the riverclan one because they're probably ina bit of a patriotic mindset, but the windclan one is just cute. It's my favourite when they do names like this, like with beepaw and beetlepaw who arr the kits of nectarsong and dewspring at that).

Yeah I’m really liking this trend, it’s interesting to see that within universe the naming culture is now shifting from unique names to themed ones. It’s very cute. And now that the code is changing it could even become symbolic of how even though littermates can choose to live apart they will always be linked by their names as well as blood.

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I hope that the fact that we got to name both Rootspring and Wafflepaw with a poll on the website is nice. I hope that it continues. Give us a cat each arc to name with a poll. It’s fun and interactive.

Same, I really love that kind of engagement with the fandom, and it’s nice to feel involved, and cool to know that such a permanent choice in the books is in place thanks to fan opinion.

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did you see they used frostwhistle fanart in the article? ik that doesnt necessarily mean theyre gonna feed into that, but i feel like combined with them mentioning frostwhistle in a previous article this could mean something!

If Frostwhistle doesn’t happen I would feel any anger at the website for queerbaiting would be entirely justified at this point.

It’s not even like those fanarts are subtle lol. And yeah they’ve mentioned Frostwhistle as a possibility in two articles at this point.

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after re reading dotc, how do you feel about grey wing? i feel like his sexism and shitty treatment of jagegd peak is overlooked... he was never really wise in my eyes

Honestly, I still really like him, but for reasons different than I used to.

He is extremely flawed, in the first half of the arc in particular he treats those around him poorly, and rarely apologies when he snaps at someone despite feeling bad about it (about 80% of the time at least), he does try to defend his brother a lot of the time.

But him having flaws is what I like about him. He feels a lot more like a real person than a lot of warrior cat POVs because of these flaws. I will say at least he does apologise to Turtle Tail for driving her away and he does realise that he held Jagged Peak back and treated him poorly (thank you Holly for kicking that nugget of sense into him).

And as for his brother, I have no doubt his defence of Clear Sky is an intentional writing choice, mainly because of the stark contrast of how he and Thunder view Clear Sky. Gray Wing knows the love and loyalty his brother is capable of and so hangs onto that and hopes that person is still there. While Thunder has only ever known cruelty and negligence from his father, and so always assumes the worst of him after he leaves his group until the last book of the arc. And across the arc both Thunder and Gray Wing are proven both right and wrong in their assumptions about Clear Sky due to their perceptions and attitudes of him. And I get that with both of them. I get why Gray Wing wants to cling on so badly to that the brother he grew up with is still in there, and I genuinely think Gray Wing’s approach to this situation of a sibling going bad is a realistic one. And they do physically fight when Clear Sky crosses lines even Gray Wing can’t excuse.

So I’ll cap it there before I turn this into an essay but I just find Gray Wing reallt intriguing and genuinely one of the most realistic protagonists warriors has spat out because he is a flawed individual. And I think his and Thunder’s dynamics with Clear Sky are really fascinating.

But yeah he was only particularly wise for like the last day of his life they really shouldn’t have named him “the wise” lol, no wonder they kind of dropped calling him that after dotc was released.

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Tallstar whenever someone asks why he doesn't have kits yet: "his bloodline dies with me"

"who?"

"Sandgorse"

I can just imagine someone being like “wow I understand not liking your father, but Talltail, are you sure you really want to sacrifice settling down with a nice she-cat and having kits with her?”

Talltail: *starts thinking about toms* yup pretty sure

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Funny/cute idea for the reincarnated!Spottedleaf Au: Freckle, Apple and Raven trying to come up with a nickname for Spotted as a kid. They try different ones (with Freckle and Apple arguing over theirs being better), but at the end they all settle for Spotty or smth.

I like the image of them just fiercely debating for hours and hours only to land on “Spotty” bonus points if “Spotty” is literally the first thing suggested but they just kind of put a pin in it and explore other options

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leafkit would make a cool protagonist but i kind of doubt they would that for pure logistics sake, unless something weird happens regarding her name, because we already have books with leafpaw (leafpool) as a pov character on top of having leafstar still a player on the board. obviously that shouldn't be confusing for anyone in the fandom, but i can't imagine publishers signing off on a book for kids with a totally new pov character with temporarily the same name lol. though i guess tigerheartstar is right there

Very true, but the first pov Leafpaw was almost 20 years ago now, so maybe they think it’s ok to move on and have another? If this is indeed the plan. If they have destined her to be a pov I wonder why they didn’t make her Grasskit instead. Maybe they didn’t want people making weed jokes, and Branchkit is too reminiscent of Twigbranch I feel for them to consider them as a protagonist. ASC has featured povs all with reused prefixes, so maybe this was them testing the waters with reusing prefixes with POVs? Because I imagine it must be quite tiring for them trying to think of unique prefixes all the time lol, they’ve got to be running out of words to use.

But yeah Leafkit might not be a POV at all, it’s just a theory. Either way unless she dies as a kit or has a name change we will be getting another Leafpaw regardless.

Also another weird detail is that there already is a Leaftail currently alive in WindClan, who was actually Leafkit’s fathers mentor, so is she named after him? If so there’s probably a cool story there. But I guess Leafshade was also in ThunderClan while Leafpool was alive. Hell maybe she was named after Leafpool who knows. A lot of Leaf- names currently lol.