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ROBIN FURUYA as Takashi Iwanaga Love is Better the Second Time Around (2024) │01x04

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Senpai! Please praise me! Hmm?

KOI WO SURU NIDOME GA JOTO (2024) | 1.04

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Love is Better the Second Time Around Episode 4

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Love is Better the Second Time Around Episode 4

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Anyway, there's always room for improvement. Always. And I'm glad the production had blind people as advisors and coaches that helped them and the actors throughout the whole thing.

I am also very glad that now there are way more shows for lgbt+ people that touch on so many different topics, we do deserve this. After all, this is all a precedent for many other things to come, and it's so incredible to know that there are now kids growing up with things like this, and adults that didn't have this back then but can now enjoy it. So glad.

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Okay, now give me a JimmySea show with them playing as parents, please

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One thing I would like to say is that the story could have had a smoother conclusion with a little more time, I feel that one more episode would have been enough and it would have made a big difference.

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i don't want to go into too much detail about my life and how i connected to LT, but just know i am not entirely comfortable with what i am seeing on my dash. a few years ago circumstances lead to me losing my hearing for majority of a year and then became hard hearing for a period of time before i regained my hearing back. its not fully where it used to be but that loss, that hope, and what you take with you on the other side stays with you long after the recovery. i know because i see it every time my mom is in remission.

and then a few months ago, i got a concussion which lead to me being momentarily unable to walk without an caregiver/walker/cane. i worked hard on my PT and now am able to manage on my own two feet again as of three weeks ago.

all i am saying is sure hating on part 4 is your opinion and might not be for you but there are people in your life and maybe on your dash that are reading what you think about people who were disabled at a time of their life, are on their way to recovery now, or got the treatment they've been waiting for. the hardships, the journey, even all the good that happened during allllll that still matters after recovery.

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i think a lot of the conversations around the last twilight finale are lacking important nuance. it's important to recognize the different experiences of disabled people. for disabled people who have no chances of "recovery" or becoming nondisabled, this kind of plotline can be incredibly upsetting, as it frames being cured as the thing that leads to a happy ending. especially after the series focused so much on learning to live a good and happy life while disabled (blind), to have the character suddenly cured of their disability – that hurts. living good, happy and fulfilling lives with lifelong disabilities is possible, and is the reality for so many disabled people.

it's also not the only reality. there are a lot of people who become temporarily disabled, and have to find ways to live well while they are, but then later recover. this kind of plotline reflects their experience, and may be comforting.

but there needs to be nuance and respect in the conversations about it. permanently disabled people are allowed to be upset and hurt by the way the disability plot was handled. it feels like a kick to the gut for a lot of us. but we still need to acknowledge that it does accurately reflect the experience of many people who experience temporary disability. both of these things can be true

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ABOUT 4/4 EP.12

We can all have our own opinions about Day getting a successful eye transplant. We're all allowed to like, dislike, have mixed feelings, whatever about it. But I think some things need to be addressed about the ways we express ourselves and how we interact with other people.

First of all, let it be known: I would 100% prefer Day didn't get his sight back. I think it would be more meaningful to the narrative of growth and learning and would send out a positive message that disabled people aren't missing something, they're just as whole as everyone else. And that happiness is possible in its entirety for us too, regardless.

This being said, what I'm about to say has nothing to do with my personal opinion of the ending but about the way people are handling things here.

1st of all, no one's opinion rules over anyone else's, even when/if that is the opinion of the majority. Fandom doesn't have a hierarchy and it's not a political system either so it doesn't matter if "a lot" or even "most" people think a certain way. They're still not more or less right than anyone else. Period.

Furthermore, an artistic creation belongs to its creator(s) in the sense that they can do whatever they want with it. Can you think it sucks? Yeah, sure. But you can't tell them what they can or can't do.

So, this thing of people acting like Aof should've done X instead because "it's what everyone wanted" is pure bs. Let that be clear.

Then, okay, you just don't like the ending. Should you not say it? No. By all means, do. This is fandom, after all. It thrives on opinions. And points of view. But you have to do so respectfully. "So I can't say it's shit??" Not a all. You can say it's shit. What you can't do is say "and everyone who disagrees is ableist" or say you consider the ending ableist (which, btw, fair, you can definitely see it that way) and then imply that any positive opinion of the ending is likewise ableist. Why? Because this is art and, thus, subjective. And opinions, big shocker I know, tend not to be black or white. Even more so when, as far as I've seen at least, there's a considerable amount of disabled people in the fandom and some of us liked the ending. So what? Are you gonna just assume all of those people are ableists?? Like, sure, just like women can be misogynistic so can disabled people be ableist but that definitely should not be the assumption you make about the group right away. And I don't think it would be a fair thing to say even if the person you're attacking isn't disabled, so... It's just stupid. To not be able to take an opposite opinion to yours or frame your opinion in a way that it makes it seem like everyone with a different one is evil is just fucking stupid. And childish.

So please, if you're mad at the ending, understandable, but take a step back. Breathe. Bite a pillow, punch a bag, call your friends to complain, go on Discord with the besties, idk... But take that step back. And then come back and comment on all the reasons why you don't like it, by all means, we love analysis. But don't be an asshole. Pls don't be an asshole.

Thank you <3

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Okay, I have something to say.

I remember a few weeks ago there was discourse about the topic of Day getting his eyesight back. There were a lot of people against it (me included) and people not against it.

Among all of that, I saw tweets from disabled people but the one that stayed the most with me was one from someone who's blind, and they were mad that people were so against the idea of him getting his eyesight back and I wondered "Why is that?" because I thought it would be better to show Day could be happy without it.

Then I saw that this person said they were mad because if they had the opportunity to get their own sight back they would take it and then I understood. Up until that point, we hadn't really gotten to the episodes where Day was starting to accept and realize he could live a good life even if he was blind.

After seeing those tweets, I started to think "If Day undergoes surgery and if it's successful at the end, I won't be mad as long as they show us that he can be happy and successful while being blind." And they did show us that.

And today, when I started having certain opinions on the ending, I remembered this person and I thought "Day being able to see again doesn't erase all he went through, it doesn't erase the person he became after living with his blindness and it never will." People find hope in different things.

I understood I should not, I should never speak above those who are actually going through this. I don't know how it is like, and I will never understand unless it happens to me. What I think about that doesn't matter.

We can talk about the story, sure. But in this case we can't talk above disabled people, not our place. There will be many different opinions, and we should respect them.

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i have thoughts

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“Please-tame me!' he said.

'I want to, very much,' the little prince replied.

'But I have not much time. I have friends to discover, and a great many things to understand.'

'One only understands the things that one tames,' said the fox. (...)

'What must I do, to tame you?' asked the little prince.

'You must be very patient,' replied the fox.

'First you will sit down at a little distance from me-like that-in the grass.

I shall look at you out of the corner of my eye, and you will say nothing. Words are the source of misunderstandings.

But you will sit a little closer to me, every day…".

The next day the little prince came back.

"It would have been better to come back at the same hour," said the fox. "If, for example, you come at four o'clock in the afternoon, then at three o'clock I shall begin to be happy. I shall feel happier and happier as the hour advances. At four o'clock, I shall already be worrying and jumping about. I shall show you how happy I am! But if you come at just any time, I shall never know at what hour my heart is to be ready to greet you…”

So the little prince tamed the fox. And when the hour of his departure drew near--

Ah," said the fox, "I shall cry."

It is your own fault," said the little prince. "I never wished you any sort of harm; but you wanted me to tame you . . ." "Yes, that is so," said the fox. "But now you are going to cry!" said the little prince. "Yes, that is so," said the fox. "Then it has done you no good at all!"

"It has done me good," said the fox, "because of the color of the wheat fields."

Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, The Little Prince

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Once again I seem to find myself in the minority (which is fine, it’s roomie here) because I really enjoyed Ep. 11 of Last Twilight. I know for the most part there is this predominant idea that tropes are cardinal sins that must be avoided at all costs, and they’re really not. Tropes are tools and a sign of a good storyteller is knowing when to use them, and in that regard Aof puts Bob the Builder to shame. I think one of the greater disservices towards queer media that tends to prevail in fandom spaces is separating the work from its creator, murdering the author again and again and god along with him for good measure, which is a perfectly valid way to enjoy the stories being told, to each their own and what not. But for me, Aof has given me some of the most realistic depictions of queerness (according to my experience) and I think separating his work from his context as an older, thai, out and proud gay man is ignoring a large part of the reason why his work is what it is. As I’ve already mentioned, the way he handles family politics resonates with me big time, despite the cultural difference and distance, but also he is a big proponent of time, the time skips in his work aren’t lazy solutions, they are there to give the characters time (there is only so much that can be done in 12 episodes) to settle into themselves, to enter the relationship in equal footing and to make sure their love will have a chance at surviving and prevailing.

One of the biggest complaints I’ve seen so far is ‘we didn’t see it, she didn’t say it, they didn’t tell us’ whether it be about Mhon’s story (Day’s mom, I saw her name written as Ramon somewhere else, but this makes more sense), about the break-up, or Mork’s grief, and I can’t help but wonder why it needs to be explicitly stated when it’s right there in the story. Yes, we heard Mhon’s story through Day’s dad, but that was the whole reason he was there. Through the whole story, we’ve been shown how little of himself Mork actually shares with Day and here are the consequences of that, it doesn't need to be made explicit, doing so would be redundant.

While I am not a fan of the dreaded ep.11 curse I think Aof’s use of it here is intentional, it is not just to stir up unnecessary drama, like it is in a lot of other BLs. Day’s mom said it best, there is a difference between being a caretaker and being a boyfriend. During that time they spent together at the hotel and despite mom’s blessing (or maybe because of it), Mork doesn’t stop seeing himself as Day’s caretaker, he keeps seeing Day as his responsibility, which he is not and more importantly it is not what Day wants to be.

The time skip after the surgery was absolutely necessary to show Day finally accepting his blindness, accepting his reality, and starting to build a life for himself upon that fact. Why didn’t they just talk it out? Because it would have changed nothing, from day one Day has been vocal about not wanting to feel like a burden, about how he hates being treated as incapable, Mork knows this, Mork fought to give Day back his independence, so him hiding the truth from Day and rejecting the job because of him must have felt like an absolute betrayal of what their relationship had been built on up to that point. To Day it must have felt like the responsibility of him was being passed on from Night and his Mom to Mork and that must have caused him so much pain. They could not enter a relationship this way and have a happy ending, because love can only get you so far, if they kept on like that they could reach a point in which Mork might resent Day, or at least that might be one of Day’s fears, he wasn’t being overdramatic, not when he’d just had one of his worst fears confirmed.

This whole story has been about independence, about autonomy, we’ve been shown people with disabilities getting married, partying, getting drunk, having sex, and running marathons, Day deserves all that, just like he deserves to enter a relationship in his own terms, as an equal partner, and I love that Aof is giving us that.

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possible unpopular opinion? day and mhok needed to break up for a number of reasons.

that was not an equal emotional relationship. everything was focused on how day felt and what day wanted and what day needed and nobody ever really checked in on mhok at all. he even got a job outside of his comfort range, because he wanted to be perceived as someone who could support day. everything is about day!

don’t get me wrong day is in a situation where he needs support, but so is mhok! they should be able to uplift each other. (dont mind the cooking crush reference I couldn’t help myself.) the most care I have seen, day give to mhok is when he thought mhok didn’t get the job. It is important to take into account their dynamic and the fact that mhok does like to be in service. but there should still be a balance.

also once they have been broken up, day will be able to find agency. they went on a vacation and day spent the entire time in a room with bunkbeds. that’s not the life for anybody. this time that they spend separated will allow them to grow as individuals. I read somewhere that we consume a lot of media that treats love as the cure. “ look, day was sad and blind then he fell in love, and now his sight is back and he’s so happy all the time with his boyfriend taking care of him.” that is not the show we’re watching and that’s a great thing! because i think we’re also forgetting. that before day was blind, he was canonically an asshole. he needs this time apart to figure out who he is and how to be better. not to fall in love and have a completely unrealistic character change.

if the two of them stayed together, they would stunt each other. mhok would never grow in terms of his career. and day would still be sitting in a room until mhok decided to take him out for a walk. whatever his intentions may have been I’d like to think that day saw this and acted accordingly.

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