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about the whole thing with snow posting that one art unspoilered in two servers, allegedly:

As far as I’ve been told, she never posted it in her server. (See screenshot, from my and Snows DMs)

if it was tagged correctly on Tumblr, I don’t see why she wouldn’t tag it correctly on Discord. (Nazkars addition sums up my thoughts pretty well)

I have yet to see proof of any sort of witness claims to that one. Unless I’m misremembering, no one who was actually present at the time said anything and instead it’s been a He Said She Said type thing.

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y’all be saying youre done with this drama now that the AHT has taken notice of this and then keep going lmaooo

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”she’s still talking to him” this was one interaction on one post. taking this as proof as ‘her still talking with him’ is kinda lacklustre imo

It’s been brought to my attention that tiredsn0w is STILL interacting with Wulver, someone who has interacted inappropriately with users who are minors.

Link to the post with this exchange:

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You aight?

yea :3 thank you for asking anon! Hope you’re well too

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People on this app will see a thorough explanation addressing every point the other party brought up and call it ‘dismissive’

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People on this app be like, “spreading awareness!” And then its just harassment

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I agree with this reblog. However, while this may be semantics, from what I know/deduced, sn0w didn’t change the characters due to backlash, but rather personal discomfort with previous writing, which gained backlash.

The changes were made regardless of backlash.

But all in all, solid take.

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All right, here I go… The past few most the case of @tiredsn0w @tiredsn0w-extrablu has become popular and not for good reasons, this person has been accused of grooming and pedophilia, I will clarify, I have never heard of this woman before this problem, but is serious, so, I decide to investigate and before trying to send something offensive against her I firstly tried to talk

I take a look around in her profile and something I can indeed say, her art can be misunderstanding  SO easily, she said “I’m not really responsible how others see my art” and in a way, that is true, but THAT is not the main problem here

“And, even if someone younger did find my works - kids get abused, kids are disabled, kids are mentally ill, kids self-harm, kids have thoughts of suicide” with this message you prove me that indeed you don’t care if kids actually watch your art and here come the main problem, you SHOULD CARE IF THEY FIND IT, why? Because, yes, you are right, kids with problems exist, but not all the kids, and definitely this is not the place, nor the way to treat such themes, time have prove me this next point, your art is found to be sexual, or easy to fetishy EVEN IF YOU DON’T WANT TO, and, if adults are getting it wrong, how much kids?

I showed some of her drawings to people not aware of this situation and not giving any contex and in conclusion their comments can resume in, feeling uncomfortable or find it kinky, why for me was important to show them with no context? Easy, MOST of the people trend to just scroll and like when the main thing is art, and just THE INTERESTED people will actually click for the context, out of that, people will NOT CARE for it   For the second and fourth drawing you are literally admitting that the whole intention is to show he is been objectify, and you have to give me a whole context in order to I didn’t get it even more wrong

First you try to justify that your character is small because he has dwarfism, I was like “okay, maybe you don’t know how to draw them and that’s why you made him looks so childlike even when you can easily look when a dwarf is a kid or an adult, so I tried to remark that and just until then you change your argument  explaining me that “no he has a very specific kind of dwarfism of little person”  which first, is not the scientific name of the syndrome, second makes the person who suffers from it LOOKS AS A CHILD So yeah, is a real condition but with this you just recognize your character INTENTIONALY LOOK AS A CHILD

And no, if you are not giving well the context that is not “education” that is morbid, you also said  SCP universe is not mean for kids, so that lead us to the beginning, scp is not meant for kids, NEITHER YOUR ART With all this I’m not asking you to stop drawing or posting your art, but just as SCP literally has it’s own page PRECISELY to avoid kids to reach it so easily, you should post your art in a different place, not in a platform where THERE’S PEOPLE OF 13 YEARS ALLOWED AND EVEN DARED TO PRETEND IS GOOD IF THEY LOOK AT IT Is like put a filter to it, just as SCP, this things aren’t mean for kids, and because of that they have a WARNING, and of course some kids will not care of it and see it anyways, and that is because of a bad care and not because the page is allowing it again, you are free to draw and post whatever you want BUT BE RESPONSIBLE OF THE PLACES YOU DO IT    

For last this are my conclusions:

Just because you “didn’t intend” of your drawings to be sexualized will not take away the fact IT ARE SEXUALICED AND FETISHIED SCP 6118 design IS INTENTIONALLY child looking which make him shota bait, “but that wasn’t my intention” SHUT UP! Hell is full of well-intended people, you didn’t mean BUT IT IS   If at any point you believe is okay to show this to a kid, to justify your actions saying that is “educational” that you are trying to give “visibility” IT IS WRONG  and if you are not capable to accept it and  CHANGE IT, then yes, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM and minimize sexual and suggestive situations to a kid indeed MAKES YOU A GROOMER Also, if anyone is thinking I'm taking out of context the conversation, no, is literally all

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How is literally any of this dismissive? Or bigoted? Snow addressed every point OP brought up with explanations, with acknowledgments for when she misinterpreted something, with statements saying she appreciates OP coming to her with critique. What do you mean, “dismissive”?

I’m gonna be for real here, most of her explanations keep falling on deaf ears. This whole argument of, “Even if she didn’t intend for her art to be sexual/fetishy, she still has to admit it is” is so dumb. She doesn’t have to do anything. Y’all don’t listen lmao.

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All right, here I go… The past few most the case of @tiredsn0w @tiredsn0w-extrablu has become popular and not for good reasons, this person has been accused of grooming and pedophilia, I will clarify, I have never heard of this woman before this problem, but is serious, so, I decide to investigate and before trying to send something offensive against her I firstly tried to talk

I take a look around in her profile and something I can indeed say, her art can be misunderstanding  SO easily, she said “I’m not really responsible how others see my art” and in a way, that is true, but THAT is not the main problem here

“And, even if someone younger did find my works - kids get abused, kids are disabled, kids are mentally ill, kids self-harm, kids have thoughts of suicide” with this message you prove me that indeed you don’t care if kids actually watch your art and here come the main problem, you SHOULD CARE IF THEY FIND IT, why? Because, yes, you are right, kids with problems exist, but not all the kids, and definitely this is not the place, nor the way to treat such themes, time have prove me this next point, your art is found to be sexual, or easy to fetishy EVEN IF YOU DON’T WANT TO, and, if adults are getting it wrong, how much kids?

I showed some of her drawings to people not aware of this situation and not giving any contex and in conclusion their comments can resume in, feeling uncomfortable or find it kinky, why for me was important to show them with no context? Easy, MOST of the people trend to just scroll and like when the main thing is art, and just THE INTERESTED people will actually click for the context, out of that, people will NOT CARE for it   For the second and fourth drawing you are literally admitting that the whole intention is to show he is been objectify, and you have to give me a whole context in order to I didn’t get it even more wrong

First you try to justify that your character is small because he has dwarfism, I was like “okay, maybe you don’t know how to draw them and that’s why you made him looks so childlike even when you can easily look when a dwarf is a kid or an adult, so I tried to remark that and just until then you change your argument  explaining me that “no he has a very specific kind of dwarfism of little person”  which first, is not the scientific name of the syndrome, second makes the person who suffers from it LOOKS AS A CHILD So yeah, is a real condition but with this you just recognize your character INTENTIONALY LOOK AS A CHILD

And no, if you are not giving well the context that is not “education” that is morbid, you also said  SCP universe is not mean for kids, so that lead us to the beginning, scp is not meant for kids, NEITHER YOUR ART With all this I’m not asking you to stop drawing or posting your art, but just as SCP literally has it’s own page PRECISELY to avoid kids to reach it so easily, you should post your art in a different place, not in a platform where THERE’S PEOPLE OF 13 YEARS ALLOWED AND EVEN DARED TO PRETEND IS GOOD IF THEY LOOK AT IT Is like put a filter to it, just as SCP, this things aren’t mean for kids, and because of that they have a WARNING, and of course some kids will not care of it and see it anyways, and that is because of a bad care and not because the page is allowing it again, you are free to draw and post whatever you want BUT BE RESPONSIBLE OF THE PLACES YOU DO IT    

For last this are my conclusions:

Just because you “didn’t intend” of your drawings to be sexualized will not take away the fact IT ARE SEXUALICED AND FETISHIED SCP 6118 design IS INTENTIONALLY child looking which make him shota bait, “but that wasn’t my intention” SHUT UP! Hell is full of well-intended people, you didn’t mean BUT IT IS   If at any point you believe is okay to show this to a kid, to justify your actions saying that is “educational” that you are trying to give “visibility” IT IS WRONG  and if you are not capable to accept it and  CHANGE IT, then yes, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM and minimize sexual and suggestive situations to a kid indeed MAKES YOU A GROOMER Also, if anyone is thinking I'm taking out of context the conversation, no, is literally all

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So much for the AHT being incompetent…

Let’s see what they do, first. With how they handled other situations, I’m not too sure.

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Did the person who snow dedicated the bathtub drawing to reach out to you? I was told in DMs that happened.

Yes. They did.

We haven’t spoken since this conversation, but my DMs are open if they want to talk to me.

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people don’t even send anon hate anymore, they just drop my @ for main in my ask box and think they did something. get creative

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I can’t reblog Nazkars addition to the post Snek made because the latter blocked me, but it’s a very important addition. Here’s the link.

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Another aspect of his dwarfism is that his fingers are shorter than his palms which are longer (as opposed to fingers being roughly the same size as your palm) as well as his arms and legs being slightly shorter than usual. A reference that was sent to me privately included these details.

Basically what Throwaway said.

How can you tell that these people are not disabled enough

Hi, I know the reblog you were referring to and I have since deleted as I released it *may* come off as insensitive. I didn’t think that one through because I impulsively made it. That is my bad and I am sorry for that.

The point I was *actually* trying to make, but didn’t convey well, is that A) it’s a stylised doodle. Using it as “proof” Sn0w is doing shotabait or whatever is silly, especially when you consider how 6118 looks in her more realistic art. I know what shota looks like (cause of early internet access as a kid) and this is not it. And B) I overall think it’s questionable to police a disabled person how they choose to depict *their own* disabilities/adjacent experiences.

(context for those who don’t know what anon is referring to: I reblogged one of starrynights posts where they showed a sketch/doodle done by tiredsn0w, captioned with “definitely not shotabait..sure/sarc. But I guess I’m not ‘disabled’ enough to call this bullshit out”, which I reblogged with “CORRECT✅✅✅” and put in the tags “bro showed a doodle drawn in a stylised art style and thought they did something” or something along those lines.)

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How can you tell that these people are not disabled enough

Hi, I know the reblog you were referring to and I have since deleted as I released it *may* come off as insensitive. I didn’t think that one through because I impulsively made it. That is my bad and I am sorry for that.

The point I was *actually* trying to make, but didn’t convey well, is that A) it’s a stylised doodle. Using it as “proof” Sn0w is doing shotabait or whatever is silly, especially when you consider how 6118 looks in her more realistic art. I know what shota looks like (cause of early internet access as a kid) and this is not it. And B) I overall think it’s questionable to police a disabled person how they choose to depict *their own* disabilities/adjacent experiences.

(context for those who don’t know what anon is referring to: I reblogged one of starrynights posts where they showed a sketch/doodle done by tiredsn0w, captioned with “definitely not shotabait..sure/sarc. But I guess I’m not ‘disabled’ enough to call this bullshit out”, which I reblogged with “CORRECT✅✅✅” and put in the tags “bro showed a doodle drawn in a stylised art style and thought they did something” or something along those lines.)

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Hello i want to apologize for not taking snow’s disabilities into consideration when asking you that question. She can take her time, no rush

it’s no problem :) I’m glad I got the opportunity to explain it since I had neglected that factor in my explanations previously as well.

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It’s so obvious who you are

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