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Misconstruing my words is insane btw. I said there’s a lack of understanding about aromanticism in relation to people not understanding how sn0w writes 049 or 6118. I never said that about any alleged ‘sharing of nsfw’??

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? What, it is true that AHT is incompetent. They usually do jackshit. I never specified whether that’s good or bad. It’s literally a neutral statement. Dont put words in my mouth, yeah?

This is vile. Wow.

I love to see how its all support victimes untill your friend is the abuser....wow.

Don't attack this kid even if what they said is... i don't have the words...

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Anyway, with how incompetent the AHT team is, I doubt anything will happen. Peace out, Im returning to main

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Snow liked those posts because they contained detransitioning material/experiences that she personally related to as a detransitioner, not because of any transphobic sentiment. Ive brought this up to her and she agrees the wording and tags used in this post [terms like ‘transgender ideology’] are distasteful.

Calling her transphobic is a reach imo, because she clearly states in her intro post that she doesn’t tolerate discrimination of any kind (see screenshot), but also— im a close friend of hers and im a trans person. She wouldn’t be friends with me if she was transphobic, and quite frankly, as a trans person, I dont think shes transphobic.

This post is gonna have a cut because the subject material could be upsetting.

This morning, I received a DM containing links to and screenshots of Snow liking anti transgender posts.

The screenshots of her liking the posts:

And the links to the posts themselves:

https://www.tumblr.com/eternal-echoes/770071484288892928/dr-robert-garofalo-who-prescribes-such-drugs-to?source=share

https://www.tumblr.com/eternal-echoes/769977044019920896/one-large-follow-up-study-of-post-operative?source=share

https://www.tumblr.com/eternal-echoes/769875357055746048/according-to-the-public-health-division-of-the?source=share

https://www.tumblr.com/eternal-echoes/769603374266056704/just-as-peoples-motives-vary-as-to-why-they?source=share

https://www.tumblr.com/eternal-echoes/769516555201658880/sometimes-the-more-lasting-obstacle-to?source=share

https://www.tumblr.com/eternal-echoes/769444735021629440/dr-lisa-littman-conducted-a-survey-that-revealed?source=share

https://www.tumblr.com/eternal-echoes/769429906648137728/in-response-to-the-high-rate-of-suicidality-among?source=share

https://www.tumblr.com/eternal-echoes/769422201240829952/in-her-research-of-young-people-dr-lisa?source=share

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Kinda crazy to me that people who dont have the disorders they’re talking about accuse Snow of stereotyping or fetishizing them, as if she doesn’t work closely with people who have those disorders to represent them properly.

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all this talk about snow "harassing people" and being oh so awful, but all i see are discord arguments, really Old discord arguments, i wonder if these two are actually angry about snow's writing and art, or are they just salty because snow was mean to them 2 years ago when she was a teenager

(Yes her art was icky 2 years ago, but she's been working on a full rewrite and has admitted she did gross art sometimes and wishes she'd never made it, why are we still hang up on this? what are we looking for, an apology, for her to delete her account?)

these are my exact thoughts thank u anon

I’ve met snow and she’s the sweetest person ever and even complimented my art. I enjoy her content and so do my friends :) i’m definitely going to make fanart soon when i revamp this account

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Anyway this whole thing about sn0w allegedly doing shotabait or whatever is so stupid. I know what shota presents itself as due to early internet access as a kid and this is not it.

Shota is a media form/genre, not an art style.

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First of all, she is not ‘sending’ me or anyone. I OFFERED to defend her. Im defending her on my own accord because I wanted to. All Snow did was say, “You can do whatever you want, I will not stop you. I just ask you talk it [in reference to the contents of my pinned post] through with me beforehand”. I CHOSE to defend to her, dont be putting words in Snows mouth. She doesnt even want to be involved with this situation. but I DO. If I didn’t want to defend her, I wouldn’t do it cause no one is forcing me to. I know how to set boundaries. Thank you.

Second of all, it is really audacious to assume my age and act like you know and make conclusions from there lmao. You dont know me.

Third of all, Snow has been the best thing to happen to my mental health in a really long while. You dont know me, you dont know Snow, you dont know anything about my friendship with her. I know my close friend better than you. I am tumblr user firewall000, you dont fucking know me lmao

You know who does know me, though? My friends. You know who else knows Snow? My friends. And those friends include trusted adults. Im not oblivious to toxicity in friendships and neither are my friends. I talk about my friends to my friends. If something was off, they would tell me.

What, so everyone who defends Snow is a ‘kid who’s getting manipulated’? What kind of cartoon villain are you making Snow out to be?

I would have no qualms with going on main, I only dont because I have better things to do than subject my mutuals, friends and followers to me arguing with people.

I am not even offended, I just think its crazy you’re essentially making headcanons.

Can I just say… it’s crazy that Snow is sending a presumed minor to defend her instead of ACTUALLY ADDRESSING the things being says about her?

I’m not even mad at the person trying to defend her (I’m not gonna name names because I genuinely don’t want them to be harassed), I actually feel sorry for them. They’re most likely in a toxic friendship and haven’t realized it yet. I went through that shit as a teen and it fucked me up BAD.

I hope they get away from Snow, for the benefit of their mental health.

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If you are going to lie and leave out context when posting about sn0w, at least be slick about it.

Censored name is SC.

Here is the full conversation. As you can see, SC was involved in the writing process and greenlit how their character was characterized.

They were asked. It is not ‘bullying’ or ‘dogpiling’ or ‘mean-spirited’. SC was enthusiastic in the writing process.

Snow enabling and making excuses for a mean spirited writing of Strawberry Cookie’s OC

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I asked Snow about this and she told me she isn’t friends with this Rowan person. In order to be friends with someone, one would have to consistently talk with them, which she doesn’t do. They aren’t even mutuals. She doesn’t associate with this person anymore.

Ngl I was skeptical about the whole snow stuff at first until you posted the discord server thing…

Believe me, I was shocked when Strawberry Cookie told me and showed me the screenshots.

It’s also been brought to my attention that Snow is friends with @wulveractors, who was messaging minors in inappropriate ways.

For all the information on Wulver, my buddy @starynightandblackskys has a LOT.

Stay safe out there, everybody.

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That is true, your first point. That is my mistake because I didnt look at the tags in the screenshots properly enough. Still, when you look up a definition for guro, you get several - some say its just grotesque or mutilation, others include an erotic aspect. Snow specified how she uses the term. I looked at the guro tag myself and it didnt seem overly erotic to me. Especially when you take into account that the guro community doesn’t exclusively make erotic art. The tag is still there for a reason. Shrug.

About your second point… that is so audacious to say LMAOOOOOOO. You don’t know me. I don’t know you. Don’t assume like you know. I am not even offended, I just think it is audacious to say

I don't mind gore, espetialy if it part of a story, and i wouldn't mind this drawings of sn0w if they didn't taged it as guro, now some people might not know whatit means so i'll leave an example of the word used in the context sn0w is using

Sure google isnt always right but I don't see what other context this might have....

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I haven’t been responding to any reblogs or anything of that sort because I have been busy.

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About the thing you mentioned in your edit, sn0w explained it in a reblog at one point. I am not agreeing nor disagreeing since I am also not Black and hence dont have an opinion on this.

Overall, id agree with your reblog. I myself joined the SCP community a little more than a year ago, so I have to admit that I lack some context because I literally wasn’t there at the point in which it happened, so I would agree with your point about her expressing accountability publicly.

About the whole tiredsn0w situation…

I have recently been made aware of this whole situation in which tiredsn0ws essentially getting harassed. As a close friends of hers, I feel obligated to say something, however  I won't reveal my identity for my own sanity.

Most of the matter I will be commenting on stems from @sneakysnekbetch ‘s blog.

CW for mentions/discussions of bullying, fetishisation, sexualisation, racism, pedophilia etc.

I didn’t scroll as far on the blog, so the screenshot order will be what is newest.

First of all, sn0w has acknowledged that the drawing may come off as sexual but is not drawn to be. I can see how it’s uncomfortable but at the end of the day, the artist didn’t intend for it to be weird. You can find it weird, but wouldn’t you say the person who made the work knows more about it than you? Rhetorical. 

Second of all, to address the third and fourth image added in the first screenshot: it is so incredibly important to note that SCP-049 has BPD in this canon. He is heavily inspired by someone with BPD who Snow knows herself. The fixation/dependency/obsession that comes with having an FP is not weird just because it is platonic or familial-adjacent. Same for the last image. One of the tags was quite literally, ‘don’t tag as ship’, meaning it isn’t romantic:

Saying you ‘need someone’ is not an inherently sexual thing.

(Referring to third image, as its been cut off)

The problem with all your claims is that you leave out a shit ton of context and exaggerate what you do present.

What is depicted in the screenshot is not a tantrum, but a personal opinion that was phrased in a rather long way. Someone being non-sharing or not wanting to interact with ships is perfectly fine. I myself block SCP-049 x OC/SCP-035 shippers because it makes me uncomfortable. Likewise, this is just someone stating a boundary. Oh no! This person doesn’t like to see ships! Because of personal discomfort! 

Not to mention that Sn0ws discomfort with SCP-049 x SCP-035 stems from the fact it creates personal distress with her and, in canon, is considered abusive (See: That’s not love, Isabel.)

This isn’t bullying. Unless you provide contextually relevant details, it won’t be bullying.

Obviously, even if it isn’t bullying, it is still perfectly valid to feel upset from getting comments that aren’t 100% supportive of something you create. I’ve been there myself, but to call it bullying is wrong.  

Instead, that entire response just seems constructive.

Again, this doesn’t seem butthurt, rather just clarifying? You just love to blow things out of proportion, Snek.

Also, it is SO ironic how you talk about ‘’Multiple canons’, yet you’re the person who complains about SCP-049 acting a certain way in one canon?

We also see SCP-049 being extremely paranoid and obsessive with his ideals in the article. you  know what else? We also only see a bit of his character in the article. There are many ways to flesh out SCP-049s character and lore. Not everything has to be article-accurate. Especially because the entire deal with the SCP: Foundation is that there is no true canon. Go figure.

Overall, I agree with anon.

I agree that the first and latter image are odd, but those are incredibly old and also have been deleted for a good reason. The BBC one… yeah, extremely uncomfortable and weird. Again, deleted for a good fucking reason. Do I think an apology would have done better? Yeah. But still, deleted for good reason.

The second drawing, however… is just not sexual at all? Seriously, so many of your arguments boil down to, “I THINK IT IS SEXUAL EVEN THOUGH IT ISN’T!” and it is so embarrassing. So much of SCP-6118s character revolves around mental illness (that the author also has), so why are you so upset that mental illness is depicted realistically and, by proxy, uncomfortably? Get over it.

I will reiterate my point— the artist knows their own work better than yourself. But you don’t seem to understand that concept, as shown here:

(full art for context)

Again, that art is not sexual at all. It is someone in restraints. A soldier, no less. Restraints are so commonly used in non-sexual ways in literally so much media. You’d know if you stepped outside of spaces that portray such things as sexual.. Same with objectification. It is almost like soldiers are seen as living weapons rather than humans. You know, almost like they are being objectified. 

It is almost like Sn0ws writing is literal psychological horror and focuses on the consequences of abuse, mental illness and the like. 

Seriously, this one in particular is a you problem. It is no one’s fault but your own if the first thing you think of is sexual stuff. Actually embarrassing. 

You can so absolutely find a song choice weird, but again, Sn0w said she explained her intent with the drawing SEVERAL times. Not to mention that it is so incredibly common to interpret songs that are romantic or sexual in a completely different/platonic way. Trying to explain to someone what THEY meant when THEY made THEIR work is so cringe. 

For context, this is the drawing:

Stressing on the phrasing of ‘lyric(s)’. A lyric. Some lines. Not the entire song.

’Most of the work form her friends is just smut’, yeah, here is tiredsn0ws opinion on said work:

It is almost like a ton changes in a whole year and that there is a reason Sn0w distances herself from her old work and chose to rewrite it. Not to mention that sn0w has said the opposite about infantilisation of SCP-6118: 

She has expressed cringe and discomfort for most of her old works.

Key word: teenage. One makes and does things that are incredibly weird and uncomfortable and regrets them later on during teenhood. Sn0w has drastically changed since her old works. Here is a full overview of her thoughts regarding her old works:

Also, pointer: SCP-6118 is asexual and aromantic, not gay. Tiredsn0ws version of SCP-049 is asexual and aromantic. Tiredsn0w herself is asexual and aromantic. Aromanticism is very present in her new work. To add onto my point about SCP-6118 being SCP-049s FP (taken from rev. 10 from the scp sandbox) and their relationship being not-romantic:

Actually, none of her characters dynamics are written to be romantic:

I just had to save this one for last. Do you know how absolutely fucked up it is to compare someone to a literal fucking pedophile? A groomer? Snek, you literally forced Sn0w to reveal extremely personal and traumatic details just for her to prove she isn’t, but you don’t care about that and instead keep persisting, and for what? I will not share screenshots out of respect for sn0w, but you know very well. You should be ashamed of yourself.

In conclusion, most of this boils down to people not understanding aromanticism and personality disorders in writing and making up their own interpretations of what someone meant with their work while also invading their privacy.  There is a severe lack in understanding of actual story and thought process. Her work is not intended for a general audience and instead for  people with mental illness and those willing to sympathize with the grimmer aspects of it.  

And also, to Snek:  your arguments are not constructive, they are contextually spotty and so chronically online it makes my head hurt. Your weird usage of condescending titles (i.e. babygirl, bro, etc) aren’t cool or a good ‘got-cha’, it is incredibly uncomfortable and cringe to see. Do some internal insight on why you perceive so many things as fetishistic or sexual, because at this point, it is literally just a you problem.  Do better.

Also, a note about something tiredsn0w (and I, minimally) have noticed:

Micro aggressions are not okay, Snek. And neither are ignorance and performative actions. 

And lastly— leave tiredsn0w alone. I block people who I think are weird also. The block button is right there, it’s free and it is available for a reason. If I can do it, so can you. 

As per my personal opinion, I think that if someone has expressed distaste for their old work and wishes to disconnect themselves from it, then that is okay and should not be held over their head. The artist knows their work better than others. Even when intent is explained, it goes in on one ear and out on the other. 

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If I had to make a guess, it’s to cover a broader spectrum of gore. I.e. when people tag things, they may be using a synonym or a word that entails a similar thing so it doesn’t accidentally wash up on peoples dashes, if that makes sense. Similar to how people will use ‘tw’ and ‘cw’ variations of a term.

I don't mind gore, espetialy if it part of a story, and i wouldn't mind this drawings of sn0w if they didn't taged it as guro, now some people might not know whatit means so i'll leave an example of the word used in the context sn0w is using

Sure google isnt always right but I don't see what other context this might have....

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I had to scroll roughly a minute to find posts from that timeframe where the art style roughly matched up, plus if I guess correctly, 60 sett means 60 weeks, in other words 14 months. More than a whole year ago.

That post is ancient and has since been taken down from what I see.

Also, seriously? A diddy joke? So much for moral compass. Actually disrespectful.

Snow says she doesn't ship 049 x 6118 yet this post is still up on her instagram, I don't care if their relationship as change in snow canon because this post was made with the intention of shiping and it still reads as that. She can say all she wants that 049 and 6118 is platonic but what she draws, how she makes this character interact and her action speak louder and tell a very diffent story....

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Ok

I don't mind gore, espetialy if it part of a story, and i wouldn't mind this drawings of sn0w if they didn't taged it as guro, now some people might not know whatit means so i'll leave an example of the word used in the context sn0w is using

Sure google isnt always right but I don't see what other context this might have....

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About the whole tiredsn0w situation…

I have recently been made aware of this whole situation in which tiredsn0ws essentially getting harassed. As a close friends of hers, I feel obligated to say something, however  I won't reveal my identity for my own sanity.

Most of the matter I will be commenting on stems from @sneakysnekbetch ‘s blog.

CW for mentions/discussions of bullying, fetishisation, sexualisation, racism, pedophilia etc.

I didn’t scroll as far on the blog, so the screenshot order will be what is newest.

First of all, sn0w has acknowledged that the drawing may come off as sexual but is not drawn to be. I can see how it’s uncomfortable but at the end of the day, the artist didn’t intend for it to be weird. You can find it weird, but wouldn’t you say the person who made the work knows more about it than you? Rhetorical. 

Second of all, to address the third and fourth image added in the first screenshot: it is so incredibly important to note that SCP-049 has BPD in this canon. He is heavily inspired by someone with BPD who Snow knows herself. The fixation/dependency/obsession that comes with having an FP is not weird just because it is platonic or familial-adjacent. Same for the last image. One of the tags was quite literally, ‘don’t tag as ship’, meaning it isn’t romantic:

Saying you ‘need someone’ is not an inherently sexual thing.

(Referring to third image, as its been cut off)

The problem with all your claims is that you leave out a shit ton of context and exaggerate what you do present.

What is depicted in the screenshot is not a tantrum, but a personal opinion that was phrased in a rather long way. Someone being non-sharing or not wanting to interact with ships is perfectly fine. I myself block SCP-049 x OC/SCP-035 shippers because it makes me uncomfortable. Likewise, this is just someone stating a boundary. Oh no! This person doesn’t like to see ships! Because of personal discomfort! 

Not to mention that Sn0ws discomfort with SCP-049 x SCP-035 stems from the fact it creates personal distress with her and, in canon, is considered abusive (See: That’s not love, Isabel.)

This isn’t bullying. Unless you provide contextually relevant details, it won’t be bullying.

Obviously, even if it isn’t bullying, it is still perfectly valid to feel upset from getting comments that aren’t 100% supportive of something you create. I’ve been there myself, but to call it bullying is wrong.  

Instead, that entire response just seems constructive.

Again, this doesn’t seem butthurt, rather just clarifying? You just love to blow things out of proportion, Snek.

Also, it is SO ironic how you talk about ‘’Multiple canons’, yet you’re the person who complains about SCP-049 acting a certain way in one canon?

We also see SCP-049 being extremely paranoid and obsessive with his ideals in the article. you  know what else? We also only see a bit of his character in the article. There are many ways to flesh out SCP-049s character and lore. Not everything has to be article-accurate. Especially because the entire deal with the SCP: Foundation is that there is no true canon. Go figure.

Overall, I agree with anon.

I agree that the first and latter image are odd, but those are incredibly old and also have been deleted for a good reason. The BBC one… yeah, extremely uncomfortable and weird. Again, deleted for a good fucking reason. Do I think an apology would have done better? Yeah. But still, deleted for good reason.

The second drawing, however… is just not sexual at all? Seriously, so many of your arguments boil down to, “I THINK IT IS SEXUAL EVEN THOUGH IT ISN’T!” and it is so embarrassing. So much of SCP-6118s character revolves around mental illness (that the author also has), so why are you so upset that mental illness is depicted realistically and, by proxy, uncomfortably? Get over it.

I will reiterate my point— the artist knows their own work better than yourself. But you don’t seem to understand that concept, as shown here:

(full art for context)

Again, that art is not sexual at all. It is someone in restraints. A soldier, no less. Restraints are so commonly used in non-sexual ways in literally so much media. You’d know if you stepped outside of spaces that portray such things as sexual.. Same with objectification. It is almost like soldiers are seen as living weapons rather than humans. You know, almost like they are being objectified. 

It is almost like Sn0ws writing is literal psychological horror and focuses on the consequences of abuse, mental illness and the like. 

Seriously, this one in particular is a you problem. It is no one’s fault but your own if the first thing you think of is sexual stuff. Actually embarrassing. 

You can so absolutely find a song choice weird, but again, Sn0w said she explained her intent with the drawing SEVERAL times. Not to mention that it is so incredibly common to interpret songs that are romantic or sexual in a completely different/platonic way. Trying to explain to someone what THEY meant when THEY made THEIR work is so cringe. 

For context, this is the drawing:

Stressing on the phrasing of ‘lyric(s)’. A lyric. Some lines. Not the entire song.

’Most of the work form her friends is just smut’, yeah, here is tiredsn0ws opinion on said work:

It is almost like a ton changes in a whole year and that there is a reason Sn0w distances herself from her old work and chose to rewrite it. Not to mention that sn0w has said the opposite about infantilisation of SCP-6118: 

She has expressed cringe and discomfort for most of her old works.

Key word: teenage. One makes and does things that are incredibly weird and uncomfortable and regrets them later on during teenhood. Sn0w has drastically changed since her old works. Here is a full overview of her thoughts regarding her old works:

Also, pointer: SCP-6118 is asexual and aromantic, not gay. Tiredsn0ws version of SCP-049 is asexual and aromantic. Tiredsn0w herself is asexual and aromantic. Aromanticism is very present in her new work. To add onto my point about SCP-6118 being SCP-049s FP (taken from rev. 10 from the scp sandbox) and their relationship being not-romantic:

Actually, none of her characters dynamics are written to be romantic:

I just had to save this one for last. Do you know how absolutely fucked up it is to compare someone to a literal fucking pedophile? A groomer? Snek, you literally forced Sn0w to reveal extremely personal and traumatic details just for her to prove she isn’t, but you don’t care about that and instead keep persisting, and for what? I will not share screenshots out of respect for sn0w, but you know very well. You should be ashamed of yourself.

In conclusion, most of this boils down to people not understanding aromanticism and personality disorders in writing and making up their own interpretations of what someone meant with their work while also invading their privacy.  There is a severe lack in understanding of actual story and thought process. Her work is not intended for a general audience and instead for  people with mental illness and those willing to sympathize with the grimmer aspects of it.  

And also, to Snek:  your arguments are not constructive, they are contextually spotty and so chronically online it makes my head hurt. Your weird usage of condescending titles (i.e. babygirl, bro, etc) aren’t cool or a good ‘got-cha’, it is incredibly uncomfortable and cringe to see. Do some internal insight on why you perceive so many things as fetishistic or sexual, because at this point, it is literally just a you problem.  Do better.

Also, a note about something tiredsn0w (and I, minimally) have noticed:

Micro aggressions are not okay, Snek. And neither are ignorance and performative actions. 

And lastly— leave tiredsn0w alone. I block people who I think are weird also. The block button is right there, it’s free and it is available for a reason. If I can do it, so can you. 

As per my personal opinion, I think that if someone has expressed distaste for their old work and wishes to disconnect themselves from it, then that is okay and should not be held over their head. The artist knows their work better than others. Even when intent is explained, it goes in on one ear and out on the other.