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OK I THINK YOU’RE RIGHT BECAUSE:

Empire just posted on their insta and it was a vid asking Kirsten and Adam who their favorite unsubs are:

And Kirsten says “obviously the one we have now” and then lists some other big bads INCLUDING voi.

And it just makes me think it’s someone we know and since it’s a favorite of hers, it makes me think it’s going to be a plot twist - like Ty Ty being the disciple. And she already said Voit so it can’t be Elias

just so you know, your tyler theory is famous in my house. i offhandedly mentioned the tyler-as-disciple theory to my bf after you posted it and he was so intrigued, and wanted to know all about it. i had to pull up your post and read it to him. he similarly found it very compelling and we have discussed it every day since.

That's so sweet, thank you friend!!! I am rarely right about these things, but I'm having so much fun, I don't care lol.

Or at least I was having fun until I saw this still this morning.

He's in her office by himself, touching her things while seemingly everyone else is at the hospital. Tyler you are not helping yourself!

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Here only to add to the party - I’m also super locked in!

just so you know, your tyler theory is famous in my house. i offhandedly mentioned the tyler-as-disciple theory to my bf after you posted it and he was so intrigued, and wanted to know all about it. i had to pull up your post and read it to him. he similarly found it very compelling and we have discussed it every day since.

That's so sweet, thank you friend!!! I am rarely right about these things, but I'm having so much fun, I don't care lol.

Or at least I was having fun until I saw this still this morning.

He's in her office by himself, touching her things while seemingly everyone else is at the hospital. Tyler you are not helping yourself!

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🥺😭

Take me to Thursday. Now. Please.

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The contrast between the "Luke finds Penelope crying in her office" scenes in 12x17 vs 18x7 is so stark and so beautiful.

In 12x17 In The Dark, she tries to get rid of him, denies that she's even crying, tells him he's not the one she wants to talk to, and barely even let's him hold her hand.

But in 18x7 All the Devils are Here? No words. He just shows up for her and she just falls into his arms and cries like it's the most natural thing in the world for them both.

They've grown so much individually and grown so close together and I love their relationship so much!

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Urgh I wish 😭

I think it’s more “I know, come here. I know”

which is still 🥰🥰🥰

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12x17 // 16x10 // 18x07

@onehundredthousandflies made a post about it and I had to.

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We got the Garvez moment.

The one we’ve been waiting for.

The tears. The silence. The weight of it all.

The way he holds her like she’s both breakable and beloved.

But the price?

The price was her light.

The part of her that believed she could do this job and still come out the other side clean.

That she could help without being marked by it.

That she could stay soft while the rest of them hardened.

She hit Enter.

And someone died.

She’s always known how close this world lives to the edge. But this?

This was different.

This was her decision. Her hands. Her consequence.

And the moment it happens—the very moment—he’s already on his way to her.

Because he knew.

He always knows with her.

He felt it. Saw it. Knew what it would do to her.

And before she could even take a breath, he was already moving.

Not to stop it.

Not to undo it.

But to be there.

She doesn’t speak.

She doesn’t need to.

He puts his hand on her back, and she leans in like it’s the only thing holding her upright.

She cries.

Not a little. Not quiet.

She sobbed into him like she was unraveling from the inside out.

And he doesn’t flinch.

He doesn’t let go.

He just holds her.

Like he always would. Like he always will.

Not to fix it.

Not to change it.

Just to be the place she lands when the world stops making sense.

Because that’s what he is to her.

And that’s what they are.

Not dramatic. Not loud. Not showy.

Just real.

Just there.

Every time it counts.

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An Awesome GarVez moment from Season 18, Episode 7

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oh. my. goodness.

bought in.

ty-ty, why did you make me love you?

(a lot of that is RJ, but still hehe)

Could Tyler be The Disciple?

A follow-up to this post

I'm going to preface this by saying that none of the evidence I have is concrete. A lot of it is just me trying to look at the show's narrative from a different perspective. I was also coming up with new thoughts as I was writing, so this won't be super organized (and barely proofread). I'm just having some fun, and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong! No harm done.

Okay, let's get started

(This is kind of a long one, so feel free to jump around to the points that interest you the most)

Suspects

Season 18, Episode 7 started raising several alarm bells for me. I think we can officially say that the show is building up to a reveal with the Disciple, and if we're leading to a reveal, it can't just be some random guy. We need suspects. Emily, Rossi, Penelope, Luke, Tara, and JJ are off the table. They are our protagonists and the characters we are supposed to trust. We have to instead look at our main recurring cast. Rebecca, Ochoa, and Evan. We can rule out Rebecca because she's been way more vital to Tara's personal life than the Sicarius case (despite her role as prosecutor).

So here are the remaining suspects:

Evan. He is suspicious, but also likely dead, lol. Evan joined very late into the season, and most mysteries introduce all of their suspects in Act 1 (or in this case, by episode 3). Could he be the Disciple? Yes. But he's the least interesting choice in my opinion, especially if it ends up being a "Surprise, bitch. I bet you thought you'd seen the last of me." kind of reveal (which would feel very lazy).

2. Ochoa. She is my top suspect whom we've already discussed at length. She's extremely suspicious. She did weird things with the brain scanners, she pushed religion on JJ, and she could have messed with Voit's medication. The only thing we don't have for Ochoa is a motive.

3. Tyler. One might think we should cross out Tyler's name because he's been on the show for two years and he's now a part of the BAU. But then that only leaves one major suspect and one minor suspect. That's not much of a mystery. It just makes it obvious that Ochoa is involved. There is a possibility that Ochoa and Evan could be distractions. After all, who would suspect a member of the BAU?

"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."- Sherlock Holmes

Like Ochoa, a lot of Tyler's behavior can be perceived in two ways. He's a new agent with impostor syndrome, or he has a more nefarious plan hiding below the surface. Tyler could very well be genuine in wanting to be apart of the BAU, but we must consider that he might not be.

Let's break down Rossi's and Emily's profile of The Desciple:

"His disciple has incredible influence over the remaining members of Voit's network." We know Tyler can be manipulative and influence people. He admitted to Penelope that he used her empathy against her to help find Sicarius back in season 16. "If I told her that people would die if she didn't help, she'd give me whatever I want."

"Except, unlike Voit, he's asking for them to take actions that are contrary to their natural psychopathy." What did Tyler do after Penelope tried to cut things off with him? He used her empathy against her again. "When I first reached out to you, I had this hate in my heart. I just wanted to find who did this to my sister. And then I was gonna end it. But, I don't feel that way anymore, and the only thing that changed is that I met you."

Penelope was responsible for her own actions. She never should have slept with a witness. But Tyler said all of the right things to pull at her heartstrings. She knew what she was doing was wrong, but she did it anyway, which appeared contrary to her typical behavior.

That doesn't prove Tyler has done anything with the network, but it does tell us what he is capable of.

"Not only is this Disciple as good on computers as Garcia..." This is the clearest piece of evidence that it could be Tyler. Ochoa is very smart, and she could make for a good hacker. But Tyler is the only character (other than Voit himself) who we know has similar talents to Garcia.

"The unsub must know that we would be tracking his signal." Ochoa was not in this episode, so it's unlikely she knew. Evan could've known, but it's hard to say where he would have gotten that information from. Tyler definitely knew.

"He had to have lured [Orlov] into a false sense of security." Maybe Tyler lured the BAU into a false sense of security as well. The show has been really hammering home the "You belong here," "You've earned your spot" thing with Tyler more than we've seen with any other new member. This could just be due to Tyler's impostor syndrome. They want to reassure him. It could also be the writer's way of setting up a betrayal that the entire time will feel the impact of.

Some other things of note:

Tyler pushes Voit a lot harder in 18x07 than he did in the episode prior. He gets very forceful when Voit doesn't agree. Maybe he needs Voit to cooperate in order to set up the conversation with Deepfake Cyras later.

As @mortalscience mentioned, the show goes out of its way to tell us that Voit has groomed a killer before. Is that foreshadowing?

And as @impossiblepearl pointed out, Voit lets Tyler into his inner circle. He saw something in him. This may have only been brought up to establish that Tyler is trying to escape that darkness, but it could also be a big clue about his true nature.

And then there is the six-month time jump. None of the main cast was all that affected by the jump, which made me question why it existed in the first place. I initially thought that it would be used to cover Tyler's time away at training. Except it was actually the opposite. Tyler was training with the BAU the whole time, and when we came back, he was set to leave. So why not show us his training? Why start the season six months later? Overall, the "I'm leaving- No, I'm actually staying" in episodes one and two is needless unless it's supposed to be recontextualized later.

So, let's alter the perception. The first case we picked back up with was the first time the network had shown its face since Voit got arrested. The Network reactivated before Voit woke up from his coma. They went active the same week Tyler was set to get his new assignment. Suddenly, the Sicarious Network is back, and it looks like the BAU is going to need Tyler's expertise. What a coincidence!

A six-month time jump would give Tyler time to plan and integrate himself into the team's lives, gaining their trust, which he does successfully.

You might be wondering how Tyler could possibly be the unsub when we've seen RJ in a ton of behind-the-scenes photos with the BAU for season 19. What if the Disciple is only revealed to the audience (and possibly Voit) at the end of season 18? Maybe we are setting up a transition from one Big Bad to another?

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I also want to hear your evidence! 👋

.....Why does Tyler lowkey match Emily and Rossi's profile of the Disciple?

I know, I know, I know this is a wild theory. And it seems very unlikely because he was there when Voit started talking to the deepfake... but with all of those followers... could this be a Ghostface situation?

To be clear, I'm not posing this question because I want it to happen (Penelope Garcia has been through enough!), but it makes me want to go back and watch the episodes for this season and see if it has any legs.

I have quite a bit of potential evidence that I'd be happy to share, but I need to know if anyone has caught anything that would fully rule him out before I go and write a lengthy post. I would love for someone to shut me down lol.

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I can't decide if it's adorable or creepy how Voit looks like a completely different person wearing this smile. By no means do I think these two have romantic chemistry, but they have chemistry. I've enjoyed their scenes so much, and for all my conflicted feelings about Voit and his place on the show in the long run, I hope we are treated to more before the end of episode 10. Penelope asks, in so many words, if he's more Elias Voit or Lee Duvall. I feel like when he's in her company, he's a new, third person. Her presence gives him an opportunity to show a side we don't see with anyone else. And who would have ever imagined Elias or Lee smelling aromatherapy to cleanse out the negativity? Not to mention enjoying it.

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The way that hug was the culmination of their entire arc.

Because he found her crying again. And she didn't push him away.

She didn't go to him when she was crying because she didn't have to. He went to her bc he knew she would be.

And then they leaned on each other. Because they both needed it. Because they were both sad. And the only way they'll get through it is together.

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I didn’t think about it this way initially, but yes that’s what I’m going to think going forward. 😂☺️

thanks for the new wonderful hc, friend

do u think jj doesn't come to penny's side as much anymore when something happens to her bc she knows luke's already there & she knows he'd never let her deal with it alone ....

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bonus:

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more actually—

i think she’s comforting for him in a way that we maybe don’t talk about a lot. he sees a lot of darkness in his job and she is his light. being around her brings the levity back to his day to day - think about how many times the camera pans to adam and he has that goofy grin on his face. she brings him joy and peace and healing and i just really love that.

so in this moment, when he’s been through something really intense, there is only one person he can go to to make it feel a little lighter.

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side note: i think that’s what they’re trying to do with elias and penelope. they are such moral and ethical foils of each other and I think there’s going to be moments coming soon where he is influenced by the way she views things and how “good” she is. even if he does become evil elias again.

Okay. Okay. Okay, okay, okay. My brain is broken.

Criminal Minds: Evolution S18.7 thoughts under the cut...

Truly cannot form many coherent thoughts right now

This is maybe the first time I've watched an episode without having spoiled a lot of it for myself by scrolling social media first. I'm so glad I did not know that Garvez hug was coming because that was the greatest surprise in television history.

Of course, I love that Luke KNEW she would be devastated, and he sought her out. I also love that she was about to light more sage, but when she knew he was there, she didn't need it.

THE HUG WAS EVERYTHING

I mean, it's a work of art. Thank you to everyone involved in making it happen.

What else even happened? hahahaha

I knew what was coming with Tara, but it was still a shocking moment. I also can't wait to find out if Evan is dead or was (purposely?) wounded in a way that would never be fatal. My money is still on Ochoa, but I wouldn't put it past the show to red herring the hell out of both her and Evan until the very end.

I think this season has the most instances of people referring to JJ as Jennifer?

The moment Penelope disabled the signal (or whatever the right term is) but realized it harmed the hostage... ugh. I was gutted for her. And I love that she went to see Voit. She feels responsible for someone's death but knows, in her heart of hearts, that she's a good person.

My fanfic-y post-episode need is that Penelope gets home to find Luke there waiting for her. He's a bit bothered to know she was with Voit. They talk and hug some more. Have a moment of almost kissing when they get interrupted by the notification that Tara has been shot.

There were a lot of other notable things in this episode, but my brain is all Garvez right now.

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y’all are saying everything I was thinking when watching the episode

i feel like they are so very healing for each other and comforting. he knew that she needed this..

but i’d also like to say, that he went to her because he needed it to. i think he needed a hug from her, and if in the meantime, she is healed from a hug from him too? bonus.

i love these two and i love adam and kirsten for knowing and understanding what garvez means to us.

wishing, hoping, praying for more garvez in s18

Okay. Okay. Okay, okay, okay. My brain is broken.

Criminal Minds: Evolution S18.7 thoughts under the cut...

Truly cannot form many coherent thoughts right now

This is maybe the first time I've watched an episode without having spoiled a lot of it for myself by scrolling social media first. I'm so glad I did not know that Garvez hug was coming because that was the greatest surprise in television history.

Of course, I love that Luke KNEW she would be devastated, and he sought her out. I also love that she was about to light more sage, but when she knew he was there, she didn't need it.

THE HUG WAS EVERYTHING

I mean, it's a work of art. Thank you to everyone involved in making it happen.

What else even happened? hahahaha

I knew what was coming with Tara, but it was still a shocking moment. I also can't wait to find out if Evan is dead or was (purposely?) wounded in a way that would never be fatal. My money is still on Ochoa, but I wouldn't put it past the show to red herring the hell out of both her and Evan until the very end.

I think this season has the most instances of people referring to JJ as Jennifer?

The moment Penelope disabled the signal (or whatever the right term is) but realized it harmed the hostage... ugh. I was gutted for her. And I love that she went to see Voit. She feels responsible for someone's death but knows, in her heart of hearts, that she's a good person.

My fanfic-y post-episode need is that Penelope gets home to find Luke there waiting for her. He's a bit bothered to know she was with Voit. They talk and hug some more. Have a moment of almost kissing when they get interrupted by the notification that Tara has been shot.

There were a lot of other notable things in this episode, but my brain is all Garvez right now.