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heloflor · 6 months ago

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Some more Fop ideas related to my last few worldbuilding posts. This is about the wands of fairies from Jorgen’s time working differently (from the magic explanation post) + the idea of anti-fairies having the same amount of magic as their counterparts but expressing it in opposite ways + some ideas for how Peri feels about his magic and wand since I didn’t expand on it in my Cosmo angst post. (1.6k words below)

Starting with “ancient” fairies’ wands, the way I see it the Big Wand didn’t exist back when fairies were bigger. A fairy was only as strong as their magic allowed it. This also means that their wands were made to not produce magic on its own, instead requiring the fairies’ own “leftover” magic to work.

And when a few mutations caused fairies to evolve into smaller fairies, those new fairies produced less and less of their own magic, making only some few exceptions able to use those wands. Thus the Big Wand was created along with new wands made specifically to “capture” the power the Big Wand creates. And I guess one of the ways the Big Wand would keep running is through what I call Residual Magic?

Also the Big Wand would be made in a way that the magic it creates can be captured by older wands, hence Jorgen also being powerless whenever the Big Wand doesn’t work. He’d still be able to use some of his magic but it’s too weak to really make a difference given the threats causing the Big Wand to stop working.

Also also the Big Wand basically boosting older wands could explain why older fairies used to struggle during battles. They basically weren’t able to “reach their full potential” with the limited magic they had (since they used their “leftover” magic to make those wands work, which most fairies don’t have that much of).

Btw while older wands aren’t fully tied to the Big Wand and could be used without it, they still abide by Da Rules due to the Fairy Council making Da Book in a way that affects all fairies, including their wands.

And thinking of it the more I give headcanons for it the more the way fairies evolved kind of screwed them over, making them weaker, needing to use items for magic, and being dependent of the species on earth to survive. So now, given how I picture them, I can’t help but consider the idea of the Fairy Council being the ones behind the mutation that caused this evolution.

Lastly, in my angst post I mention how Cosmo might be unsatisfied with a wand reducing his magic, partly due to the idea that each fairy needs to use a certain amount of magic per day and the stronger they are the more they need to use. And after thinking of Jorgen’s wand a bit more, I could actually see this type of wand as being a better fit for Cosmo. Due to the fact it requires the fairy’s “leftover” magic to be used, such a wand forces the fairy to use more magic than a regular one, which could better suit Cosmo’s magical needs.

That being said I also see such wands as being able to make more powerful spells as a result of needing fairies’ magic, maybe even spells a regular wand can’t do (thinking of “Cosmo Rules”, the episode telling us him and Jorgen are cousins, and how Jorgen gives his wand to Cosmo in order to watch over Da Rules). So Cosmo having such a wand would allow him to do very dangerous spells, meaning it’s a bit of a risk-reward situation.

(Btw in “Cosmo Rules” we’re told that Jorgen and Cosmo being related is a deep dark family secret. You think it’s because the Von Strangles and Cosmas are related through an affair or other family drama, or is it because they don’t want to associate with Cosmo due to how many disasters he caused?)

Next, for the anti-fairies thing, I mention in my Jorgen post the idea of Anti-Cosmo struggling with his magic due to Cosmo having full mastery of his. And you know what, I like this idea and wants to expand on it.

Basically, each fairy and their anti-fairy counterpart have the same amount of magic. If they get into a fight in which both give their all, it would end in a draw since each shot would be of the same strength. That being said, due to fairies and anti-fairies being opposites, their relationship to their magic is opposite as well.

For Cosmo, he has full mastery of his magic, being able to summon exactly what he wants (the issue with him being that he doesn’t realize the consequences of how he uses his magic, hence why he’s so dangerous). So Anti-Cosmo on the other hand has less control over his magic the more powerful the spell, hence why he never tried taking over Fairy World on his own despite being the third strongest anti-fairy (third strongest in my headcanons). If he tries using powerful spells, he has no idea what the outcome will be, meaning he might hurt himself with it.

For Wanda, she perfectly pictures her spells before using her magic, having a detailed idea of what she wants to summon/what effects her magic will have. The only exception would be when granting wishes with Cosmo and/or Peri in which case she most often than not let them influence the outcome of the wish as well (as mentioned in my magic explanation post there would be times when Cosmo only provide the magic allowing a spell to be cast, giving full control to Wanda for its outcome). Anti-Wanda would as a result put little thought into her spells, probably being pretty careless with it as well. She’d have a general idea of what she wants to summon and roll with whatever her magic creates.

For Peri, he’d be very careful when using his magic, only using it when he needs to or doing small spells there and there to avoid Backup. This is also why while on his “break” from Dev he wasn’t using his magic at all, as far as he was concerned his job was still to grant Dev’s wishes so he wasn’t using his magic for anything else. Also he probably got captured by the anti-fairies before/right as the early symptoms of magical backup showed up. Irep as his opposite would instead use his magic whenever he feels like it, being a lot more careless with it.

Finally, a word about how Peri feels about his magic since I didn’t bring it up in previous posts. I’d say he would have mixed feelings about it.

On one hand, it feels good to use his magic and I could see him use “Emotion Magic” a lot after figuring out it can get past the limitations of his new wand. His parents also encourage him to use it, with Wanda making it obvious she’s fully against the Fairy Council wanting to restrain his magic, on top of making it clear that, even if she can’t relate to the struggles of op magic, she’s there if Peri needs someone to listen to.

As for Cosmo, he’d train Peri on controlling his magic based on what he knows/remembers about his own training and would always be sweet and supportive, notably telling Peri it’s okay and he’s doing his best whenever he makes a mistake that potentially hurt someone. Cosmo would basically treat Peri the way he would have wished someone would have been there for him growing up.

(In general I like to think that the best way for a fairy to learn how to use their magic is to have someone more powerful than them helping, so that if a spell goes wrong that fairy can make a different spell to counter it or “absorb” the magic. Tbh the “absorb” part could be an example of a spell only “ancient” wands can do, absorbing another’s magic before releasing it elsewhere, preferably where no one will get hurt by it. And yes fairies having an easier time when being taught by someone stronger is one big reason why Cosmo had so much trouble growing up. Only two fairies were stronger than him and neither of them work on teaching others, the same way Cosmo is a godparent rather than a magic teacher)

On the other hand, he would hear from many people how dangerous magic can be, including learning about the cause of the baby ban, or in general as he becomes a teen and starts to understand more complicated situations, he’d come to realize the kind of power his father has. There’s also the possibility of people seeing his last name and quickly making the connection with Cosmo, further making Peri realize just how powerful his father is and the potential that might come from it if Peri took after his dad.

As a result, he would sometimes be worried about his magic and be content to use a wand limiting his magic. Though I could see his parents sometimes bring him to the Hocus Pocconos and give him Wanda’s wand so he and Cosmo can let it out for a while, again Cosmo and Wanda trying to support their son the best they can while making sure he knows he’s not a danger for his magic.

So yeah, overall mixed feelings and I like to think that despite Coswan’s best efforts, Peri doesn’t use his magic all that often. He still uses it from time to time and Cosmo in particular makes sure of it to avoid any magical backup, especially since I could see it happen to Peri once in his younger years so Cosmo is keeping an eye on that.

But yeah Peri still doesn’t use his magic all that much and after becoming a godparent basically decided to only grant Dev’s wishes, hence holding off of his magic until he started getting the first symptoms of magical backup. After this incident though, I could see him use his magic a bit more often to keep himself safe, but still to a much lower extent than the regular fairy.

#Fairly Oddparents #Fairly Oddparents a New Wish #Cosmo Fairywinkle Cosma #Wanda Fairywinkle Cosma #Peri Fairywinkle Cosma #fop #Flor talks #something I wrote a while ago but forgot to post since I got busy with the review #this will actually be my last fop post in a while; I recently got back into Mar//io #hope to still have enough interest to write the few fop oneshots ideas I had tho #(it's actually a bit sad to look at the fop tag rn; it has considerably slown down ever since New Wish came out of Netflix 😕)

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heloflor · 8 months ago

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So there was an attempt.

Will post the transcript of it here eventually, for those curious about my thoughts but prefer text over video and/or dislike my voice (can't blame you, especially with the bad audio quality)

#Fairly Oddparents #Fairly Oddparents a New Wish #fop anw #Flor talks #I guess ???#was supposed to post it earlier that week but something unexpected (in a good way) came up irl #on that note I hope it's not too late to promote the show on neflix...#(I say despite having no subscribers meaning I'll be lucky if this vid gets more than 100 views)#(tbh if it gets 1k views in like a month or two I'll consider it a success; even then it feels like way too high an expectation)#I love how I thought this would end up being 30-40 minutes long #why am I surprised at that point I've seen the lenght of my posts #on that note; if you thought I was annoying before this is about to get worse #I have the power of video editing now #granted it needs some work #btw I have NO idea why the background is so low quality #it's the same 'base' pic as my channel header and it looks fine there #maybe it's a size thing ? 🤔

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heloflor · 9 months ago

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All of your frustration and anger is justified, understandable, and fair.

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heloflor · 9 months ago

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Out of curiosity, do you have any headcanons on Cosmo’s father before he died? I think in one of your posts, you said he was kind of an enabler? I haven’t seen that in other people’s works, so I found that interesting

While I do have headcanons about his relationships with his family (so wife and sons) which I’m going to share here, I unfortunately don’t really have any ideas about more personal stuff, as in what kind of person he was, what was his job if he had one etc. Papa Cosma as I call him is a character I simply don’t care enough to put much thoughts on. I’m basically fridging this man.

That being said yeah I do have some ideas for his relationships with his family so here it is! (1.2k words below)

Starting with Mama Cosma, as you say I did mention him being an enabler. Thing is, I see the two of them as remaining married up until Papa Cosma’s death. And given the kind of person Mama Cosma is I don’t see ways for them to be “happily” married unless Papa Cosma tried to justify his wife’s behavior.

Now there could be other ways to look at it but I’m not the biggest fan of those. For example you could say Mama Cosma hid her true nature until his death but given they were possibly together for thousands of years, and since she has no issues showing who she is to everybody else, I don’t see this happening.

Likewise there’s the possibility of him being scared of her and only staying for the kids, with Mama Cosma possibility threatening him due to having the strongest magic and the means to take everything in the divorce, but this idea makes me a bit uncomfortable. Also I don’t really see why he would still accept to sleep with her enough times to have a second child if he hated her/was afraid of her.

So yeah, the way I see it Papa Cosma genuinely loved his wife and as a result had a tendency to excuse her behavior, even if he himself often had to walk on eggshells around her. He would for example say that her angry outbursts aren’t that bad, that maybe Schnozmo should make less noise if he wants to avoid getting yelled at, that she’s a sweetheart when she’s in a good mood. Basically the usual enabler stuff.

Tbh the fact Papa Cosma doesn’t realize just how bad the situation is would very likely be indicative that he didn’t grow up in the healthiest environment, so I guess you could add this to how his personal life was? Maybe he had abusive parents which led him to normalize this kind of behavior, hence why he married someone like Mama Cosma? 🤔

So overall, the relationship between the Cosma parents wasn’t exactly healthy, with Mama Cosma running the show with very limited push-back from her husband. Hell maybe Papa Cosma would draw the line at physical abuse (including using magic for physical abuse), which Mama Cosma barely uses anyways, hence why she could get away with the verbal abuse her husband didn’t call her out for. And if she did physically abuse Schnozmo, she’d do it behind Papa Cosma’s back, and if the kid says something she’d justify/downplay her actions, which her husband would buy.

Now Papa Cosma’s relationship with Schnozmo would be a bit more complicated. Thing is, I see Papa Cosma as the more involved parent and I could definitely see him as a very loving father, but also he lets his wife get the final say in a lot of things including their son being grounded for trivial reasons. The most he could do would maybe be to shorten some of those groundings, or if some of said groundings have to do with Schnozmo being forced to skip a meal, he’d still bring his son some food “in secret” (not sure how secretive it would be, maybe Mama Cosma just wouldn’t care that much about whether or not the kid eats when grounded, just as long as she doesn’t have to see his face at the moment).

So I think their relationship would be a mixed bag. Papa Cosma is the more involved and loving parent so Schnozmo would be closer to him, but at the same time he’d be frustrated by the way his father lets his mom get away with everything. Though at a younger age Schnozmo would probably blame his mom for it, thinking his dad’s just a happy idiot for not noticing anything’s wrong. But had Papa Cosma lived longer, Schnozmo probably would have still ended up acting out for attention as a teen, becoming a con artist and cutting contact with both of his parents. He was definitely more forgiving of his father’s shortcomings as a child due to seeking out any form of affection from a parental figure, but as an adult he wouldn’t let it slide.

Also writing this down is making me realize that I’m basically making Schnozmo be more like his mom, having her wit and manipulation, while Cosmo is more like his dad, having a bigger heart and being naive. Not sure how Cosmo having more in common with his dad would play out in how his mom and brother treat him though. Like this could definitely be one of the reasons why Mama Cosma is like thatTM, but I don’t know how Schnozmo would be influenced by it when interacting with Cosmo. At the very least Schnozmo would have a similar “happy idiot” mentality towards Cosmo growing up, given what we see in his episode.

Speaking of Cosmo, I feel like the main thing Papa Cosma felt about him was concern. He was not expecting an overpowered baby, and being the magically weakest member of this family didn’t help. This man was just not equipped to deal with such a powerful baby, which could explain why the one flashback we have of him in the show features both him and Mama Cosma looking after Cosmo.

On that note, Mama Cosma seems like someone who loves babies so from Cosmo’s birth she likely was the one mainly taking care of him, as in she wanted to take care of him and was being possessive about him so her husband kept his mouth shut and let her have it. That doesn’t mean Papa Cosma didn’t bond with Cosmo, he absolutely did and loved his baby, it’s just that Mama Cosma was spending more time with Cosmo, and the fact she was slightly more able to handle the kid (not by much tough) helped.

Tbh maybe during that short time between Cosmo’s birth and the fly incident, Papa Cosma was spending more time with Schnozmo since Mama Cosma was basically ignoring him to focus on her new baby, both because baby and because op magic. This could be a reason why Papa Cosma’s death impacted Schnozmo, as he felt like he lost the one adult he could rely on just as said adult was being a better parent.

But yeah, in the end Papa Cosma loved Cosmo and spent time with him whenever he could, preferably with his wife around to help with Cosmo’s unstable magic, but his time with his baby was short-lived. Had he been around longer, I feel like Mama Cosma would have been less clingy of Cosmo since she had her husband for that, especially given that Cosmo was able to put some boundaries (ditching her to get married).

I do wonder if maybe Cosmo’s childhood might have been a bit easier, if only because Papa Cosma would be better at comforting him (and meaning it) than his wife. Like Papa Cosma would have wanted to help Cosmo with his magic but unlike his wife wouldn’t see his son as the problem.

On top of that Cosmo probably wouldn’t have cut contact with his mom, if only so he can still interact with his dad. Idk I feel like once married Cosmo might try to hint to his dad that maybe staying with Mama Cosma isn’t the smartest choice. Schnozmo maybe tried to tell him as well but gave up quickly enough. Then again Cosmo can be pretty naive and not realize just how bad his mom is, and who knows maybe Mama Cosma would have been more fine with Cosmo getting married, though she’d probably still make a lot of passive-aggressive comments.

So yeah, that’s all I’ve got for Papa Cosma. Hope it’s enough!

#Fairly Oddparents #fop #Mama Cosma #Papa Cosmo #(apparently that's the tag for him ?)#Schnozmo Cosma #Cosmo Fairywinkle-Cosma #Flor talks #really hope this answer is enough info #like I said I just don't have much thoughts on this man past the implications of his death on the rest of the family #hence calling him a fridged character #at the very least I tried developping more on the enabler part #on that note it's worth noting I don't know anyone in my life who's abusive like Mama Cosma is #all I know on that topic is from reddit of all places #so take the way I describe her with a grain of salt #also from what I've seen on Tumblr the main consensus for their relationship is either divorced or separated #which could explain why the idea of him being an enabler isn't brought up often #(can't speak for fanfics though I have yet to read any fop ones)

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heloflor · 10 months ago

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Aaand after making some random worldbuilding (aka the previous posts) I ended up having a bunch of Jorgen headcanons (1.9k words ahead):

- He’s one of the oldest fairies out there, back from when fairies were warriors, and participated in the battles we see in the flashbacks of that time-period, aka the “Wishology” black hole and “Balance of Flour” anti-fairies things.

And looking at those two flashbacks, if I had to make some sort of timeline of those events:

Fairies were warriors → the black hole of darkness thing happened → fairies slowly started to mellow out and evolved in a way that their bodies were starting to become smaller → they decided to connect themselves to the dominant species on Earth for reasons (probably related to whatever mutation was making their species evolve into smaller fairies) → the fights with the anti-fairies for the right to become godparents happened → Da Book started to get written as godparenting and other Earth-related jobs (like tooth-collecting or whatever Cupid’s job is called for example) were officially created

(Note that in the anti-fairies flashback we see the fairies being much taller than the anti-fairies. I could see this as the fairy military back then still being mainly made of the “oldest” fairies, meanwhile the anti-fairies had pretty much everyone fight, which could also justify the fairies struggling if their numbers were lower)

- Like I mention in my powers explanation post Jorgen is average strength for a fairy of his time, which means he’s much stronger than the average smaller fairy but quite a lot of the above-average smaller fairies are stronger than him.

- Thinking about it more I could also see there being a few differences between “ancient” fairies like him and “newer” fairies. For example his wand being more reliant on a fairy’s own magic rather than on the Big Wand, meaning only fairies with the same amount of magic as “ancient” fairies or higher can use it. Or since “ancient” fairies come from a time before godparenting, it takes much longer for them to get magical backup. Things like that.

- He probably lost his wings in battle, because I’m not a fan of the thought of him straight up cutting them off. Or at least him getting rid of his wings would be something like them getting broken beyond repair in battle, and when given the choice to keep what’s left of them or not he’d ask the doctors to amputate.

That being said I could see him use “I got rid of them for being too girly” as an excuse if someone asks him about it, if only to hide a potential defeat (that is if he lost his wings during a battle that they lost). He technically has a jetpack to replace them but he barely uses it, preferring to teleport around instead.

- In “Wishology” we see the Fairy Council send some fairies to watch over Fairy World. Jorgen wouldn’t be chosen for this and I’m hesitating between him feeling shameful or guilty about it, maybe both. Shameful because he’s not powerful enough to be considered for it, and guilty because he has to watch people he knows give up on their life in Fairy World to spend a literal eternity on guard duty while he gets to stay.

Then again going back to listen to the scene explaining it, Jorgen refers to those fairies as “our ancestors” so it’s very likely he wasn’t born back then meaning there wouldn’t be any shame/guilt. I definitely think he was there for the big war against the anti-fairies tho, hell one of the fairy soldiers in this flashback even looks like him.

- Speaking of the end of the “war times”, Jorgen would struggle a lot with letting go and accepting that fairies don’t need to be constantly on the defensive anymore, especially since they have other fairies watching over them from the stars. Now there is still a fairy military because while not at constant war, danger is still around, and yeah Jorgen would be part of that military, mainly using his experience to help train new recruits.

That refusal to fully drop his guard is also why he keeps working out and for the longest time kept military clothes even after moving to god-parenting. On that note I could see him be a bit more at peace in New Wish, hence the change of clothes into something more comfortable.

- In previous posts I mention how I don’t see the Fairy Council as fairies (yes I know they’re supposed to be but I like the idea that they’re not), they are beings who found Fairy World, were allowed a leadership position and will do anything to preserve it, valuing their own self-preservation above everything else and even feeling threatened seeing how some fairies are stronger than them.

All this to say they would love a fairy like Jorgen. He’s loyal, cares about the rules, intimidates other fairies, and his magic isn’t powerful enough to stand up to them. As a result, even when he was still full-time in the military, the Fairy Council would have him be the one protecting Da Rules (the “original” version of the book) and be the one adding the new rules they decided on.

Note that I wouldn’t say I consider Jorgen a tool of oppression for the Fairy Council. Heck in my obsession with Cosmo being op, I thought at some point of the idea of some underground tournament where the 50 or so strongest fairies would battle it out for fun once a year, and Jorgen would definitely be either the announcer, umpire or commentator. And he wouldn’t tell the Fairy Council about the place because “whatever happens at the arena stays at the arena”. I mean the guy apparently loves violence so of course he’d like to see the strongest fairies beating the shit out of each other.

But yeah all this to say, while Jorgen’s actions definitely benefit the Fairy Council, by the end of the day his loyalty is to his kind. And if there was a war for power at some point, he’d side with the other fairies against the Council.

- Also mentioned in my baby ban post but when being told to add the “no wishing for babies” rules, he was kind of bummed out and put off doing it until he forgot. By that point he’d still be more focused on being ready to fight than have a kid, but just because he never considered it doesn’t mean he might never want one, so having the choice taken out of his hands like that doesn’t feel great.

- He was invited to meet baby Cosmo due to Granny Boom Boom (is that her name?) and Mama Cosma knowing they’re distantly related and being good friends for it. Though they never mention their family link, hence why neither Jorgen nor Cosmo knew.

- Speaking of Cosmo, Jorgen would have very mixed feelings about the guy. On one hand he’s a walking apocalypse that’s causing disasters left and right “instead of using his gift for good like the other op fairies do!”, is the reason why fairies can’t have kids anymore, and his anti-fairy is a huge threat. Jorgen would also find his overall personality annoying and the fact he had to see the guy so often when he was with Timmy doesn’t help.

On the other hand, Cosmo is an incredibly sweet guy trying his best and, during the time he was in military school, Jorgen would see other fairies break down due to the work feeling too intense or missing their families, meanwhile Cosmo would end up in tears over how destructive his magic is and how even such a structured place that’s all about powerful fairies still can’t help him stop hurting people.

So yeah, very conflicted feelings here. Jorgen doesn’t like Cosmo but at the same time would pity the guy. Also the fact that he can tell Cosmo doesn’t mean to hurt anyone but it doesn’t change the fact that he did hurt people and should be held accountable for it.

- Meanwhile Jorgen fucking hates Anti-Cosmo. Dude has been a thorn on his side since he was born and it’s a very good thing AC keeps forgetting he’s op as hell and could take Jorgen in a fight no problem.

On that note, once it became obvious AC was an issue and his strength relied on numbers, the Fairy Council agreed to have all anti-fairies that would trespass be captured and Jorgen was more than happy to help with this, probably celebrating the day he managed to capture AC.

(The way I see it AC went on a bit of a rampage soon after his birth and the at-the-time leader of the anti-fairies saw this op 2 days old baby with desires for world-domination and decided to take him under their wing. AC forcefully took over their throne a few years later, immediately becoming a concern for Fairy World given his power potential, which he keeps forgetting he has.

Or another possibility for his strength, considering I see Cosmo as a prodigy magic-wise who’s in full control when using his magic, maybe AC being his anti-fairy struggles to control his full powers, hence why he prefers to use weaker spells that are less difficult to control. Like he can still use his magic to its full potential but can’t predict what it will create, which still works with the idea of him going on a rampage as a baby.)

- Jorgen officially retired from the military after Cosmo ruined his reputation (the whole “losing his five stars” thing from “This is Your Wish”). And already being the keeper of Da Rules decided to join the god-parenting business.

Now looking at the episode “Wishing Well” which to me has by far the best writing for Jorgen, at least when it comes to understanding why they’d trust him as a social worker, it’s safe to say he went to the fairy academy to learn how to be a godparent. But between his size and general attitude, he was probably deemed too scary for kids.

At the same time, his strictness also intimidates fairies so he was basically immediately promoted to boss, being in charge of assigning godkids to fairies, testing the fairies, checking if their godkid is treating them well enough and making sure kids follow the rules and yelling at them if they don’t.

- Despite now working in god-parenting, he still does some work-out/training in his spare time and as a result is still trusted as a defender of the fairies, for example having to guard the anti-fairies prison as a side-gig or just in general being the first one others turn to when Fairy World is in danger. Also looking at “Abra-catastrophe” he still has some authority over the fairies’ military (note that I have no idea what his rank would have been by the end of his military career, mainly because I don’t know shit about the military).

- Given what I said earlier about him being more focused on training than family, he would meet the Tooth Fairy after retiring from the military. By New Wish the two of them are still married. This could also partly explain him being more at peace in New Wish.

- If I had to give one last headcanon, he probably sees Timmy as both the best and worst godkid Fairy World had ever seen, and has kind of a “begrudging respect” kind of relationship with him. He wouldn’t call the kid a friend but they’ve been through a lot together so this counts as something. Also Timmy isn’t afraid of him and doesn’t hesitate to mess with him, which adds to the “begrudging respect”.

#Fairly Oddparents #Fairly Oddparents a New Wish #fop #fop anw #Jorgen Von Strangle #Flor talks #last fop post ! (for now)#really hope putting all those back to back isn't too spammy #I tried posting it pretty early for that reason #I just don't want to have one post mentioning another post that isn't there yet #especially since like three of those last posts mention each other #now back to the shadow realm of lurking and almost never posting !

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heloflor · 10 months ago

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Some info on how I view Cosmo and Wanda’s family lives, more specifically how they grew up and how the two of them meeting went, because again I’m obsessed with Cosmo being so powerful which brought some ideas for his upbringing and meeting with Wanda, which also brought some ideas for Wanda, and I didn’t want to clutter my baby fairies ban and magic abilities posts with it. So here is it now (6.5k words below):

TRIGGER WARNING: Talks of a character basically having depression for the Cosmo section with one sentence implying suicide idealization.

I’m going to start with Wanda since it’s much shorter.

First off, about her mom’s whereabouts, considering her dad is a mafia boss I’m going to go with her having been killed by one of Big Daddy’s enemies, likely when the girls were teenagers since Wanda complains about how their mom always liked Blonda more in “Blondas Have More Fun!” meaning they grew up with her, but at the same time I like the idea of her dying when her daughters are still pretty young (yeah very happy way to start a post, it gets worse in the Cosmo section).

Speaking of the mom liking Blonda more, I could see a situation of Big Daddy being closer to Wanda while his wife is closer to Blonda, though I don’t know if it’s just a question of the girls being more similar to the respective parent thus causing this closeness or if it’s one parent favoring a twin and the other parent deciding to favor the other one to “compensate”. And if it’s the second case, not sure which parent started it.

On that note I could see Wanda working for her father’s company before deciding to become a godparent, like for a while she didn’t know what to do with her life so she helped her dad. She didn’t do any mafia-related stuff tho, she was more of an employee/manager for his cleaning service. Big Daddy was supportive of her pursuing something she feels fits her more (fairies are immortal so it’s not like he needs to have a successor, granted there’s always the chance of him being assassinated).

Meanwhile Blonda doesn’t feel the same closeness to her father so she’d rather pursue her own goals, which I could see as related to their mom in some way. Like the mom probably wasn’t a star but might have been working within the show-business industry, and Blonda got an interest in acting from her and her career was launched through her mother’s connections. Oh and even if they’re not that close, Big Daddy is also supportive of Blonda’s dreams. Mafia or not, he loves his daughters.

More things that could be said about them, maybe after his wife’s passing Big Daddy became more protective of his daughters, thus leading to have some of his higher employees keep an eye on them during their late teens, which could explain Wanda being familiar with some of them in “Big Wanda”. At the same time though he might not want to involve his girls too much into his business so he might instead ask the guys to keep their distance in order to keep his daughters safe.

And speaking of men protecting women, I could see Big Daddy have a bit of a toxic view of what a man is supposed to be like, view that he gave to his daughters growing up hence why Wanda dated a macho guy like Juandissimo before realizing she just wasn’t as into him as she thought she would be.

Note that I don’t think Juandissimo was a toxic boyfriend or anything like that. Looking back at his episodes, he’s definitely very self-centered and dramatic which is probably why Wanda got tired of him, but he has a genuinely caring side (the whole thing with him going back to Remy in particular). He does need to get the goddamn hint post-breakup though. Just move on and go date Cupid my dude. He can match your dramatics.

Last thing about Juandissimo while I’m at it, in his debut episode he seems low-key scared of Cosmo during their first interaction (at least I don’t think he was acting), so I like to think that sometime after Cosmo and Wanda started dating, Juandissimo heard about it, challenged Cosmo to a duel or something, Cosmo at first didn’t want to bc he didn’t want to go to jail but Juandissimo was able to provoke him into it, Cosmo starts the duel holding back but eventually gets angry enough to let loose. Juandissimo has been afraid of him ever since, now fully aware of the raw power these noodle arms hold.

Giving one last headcanon for Wanda, since both her and Cosmo seem to know how to fight but I don’t particularly like the idea of fairy godparents undergoing military training during their studies; I’m more into Wanda mentioning “four years at the fairy academy” in “Abra-catastrophe”, meaning those are more “regular” studies. It’s especially funny when considering if you start at 18 you become a fully-fledged godparents at 22, which checks out with Peri if he aged at the same speed as humans.

(For those asking “Operation Birthday Takeback” has Cosmo mention Vicky hurting kids “since 2001” while one of the creators confirmed New Wish took place in 2024. Plus in “Abra-catastrophe” it’s been one year since Timmy had his fairies, and “Fairly Oddbaby” takes place three seasons later. So if Timmy got his fairies in 2001, Poof/Peri was born in 2002 meaning he’d be 22 in 2024, which would check out with him going to fairy academy for four years starting at 18, at least if that’s how the academy works. Though there’s also the possibility that 2001 is when Vicky first got hired by the Turners, meaning Timmy got his fairies in 2002 and Peri is actually 21, born in 2003.)

At the same time, we know Cosmo went to military school at some point which justifies his ability to fight. So for Wanda, I’m simply going with the idea of her father giving her some self-defense training, especially given his profession. Wouldn’t want to lose his daughters the same way he did his wife.

Not sure which would be the better fighter between Cosmo and Wanda though, since I could see Big Daddy take it pretty seriously (thinking of “Most Wanted Wish” and how good Wanda is at the competition; also funny to think about how her, Cosmo and Jorgen are the last three standing when again taking the idea of godparents not having mandatory military training, meaning those three were possibly the ones with the best self-defense training). Big Daddy could even teach her some backhanded/dirty tricks that would make her more unpredictable.

Meanwhile Cosmo is Cosmo and we know he struggles to focus sometimes, but at the same time he’d have gone through a lot more training in an environment made for it. Plus he’s op as hell. So I guess which one is stronger depends on the type of fight, more specifically on whether it relies on magic or wits.

Now moving onto the Cosmo stuff, and long story short since his birth things were a mess. From his destructive nature from birth, his terrible two, Anti-Cosmo’s birth and quick rise to power, all of which led to the baby ban. On top of that, as mentioned in my baby ban post I see Cosmo as the first op fairy in a very long time, meaning his strength was a complete surprise to everyone. And with how destructive his magic is, it wasn’t a good one.

All of this would be the main reason why Mama Cosma is so protective and overbearing. Between the destruction and the baby ban, she would constantly be criticized for giving birth to Cosmo (huge fan of T4T Coswan, which means the whole “male fairies carry the baby” isn’t actually true). Hell maybe the Fairy Council tried to take him away like Jorgen does to Poof in “Fairly Oddbaby”, which would make her even more protective.

The loss of her husband wouldn’t help either. Like I could definitely see their relationship as not being exactly healthy given the kind of person Mama Cosma is (imagine Papa Cosma as one of those parents who know their spouse is a piece of shit but they try to excuse this behavior, thus enabling it), but losing him would still be a shock, especially with two kids to raise, one of which is a walking apocalypse.

On that note the way I see it, when Papa Cosma was turned into a fly, his wife ended up more focused on getting the wand back than she was in making sure her husband was still in her sights. So by the time she got Cosmo under control, she had no idea where he was. And while there would definitely be a search party, and I’m not even sure if he’ll ever be considered dead or “just” missing, ultimately the man was never seen again.

But yeah all of this led Mama Cosma to become overprotective of Cosmo, which in turn led her to neglect Schnozmo who started acting out for attention, quickly becoming a thief. And since he still wasn’t getting anything from his mom, he kept doing it until it eventually led him onto the path to become a con artist.

Now I was wondering a bit about the age difference between the two brothers as I want them to grow under the same roof for the above-mentioned headcanon of Schnozmo being neglected, but also looking at the show Schnozmo doesn’t really have anything against Cosmo, so I could see him be mature enough to realize his mom’s the problem (granted the show takes place thousands of years later so they had more than enough time to talk things out). Also with fairies being immortal, who knows what the “usual” age difference between siblings is.

So ultimately I’m going with them being about 12-13 years apart, on top of adult fairies usually staying quite a while at their parents’ home since again they’re immortal. Like at minimum a fairy would spend the first 50 years of their life living with their parents, probably longer. Peri in New Wish is an exception due to growing up as the only child in a society of adults and feeling babied by everyone (Jorgen, who is literally his boss, calls him “Peri-Weri” in “Lost in Fairy World”, like his fucking boss is babying him). So he encouraged his parents to take their vacation soon after he became an adult and quickly got his own place as well, both in an attempt to prove himself as a responsible adult.

Going back on topic, the way I see it Cosmo and Schnozmo started off very shaky. First off due to their father’s death which I’m sure Schnozmo did not take well, and it probably took a long time for him to forgive his brother for it, that is if he ever forgave him (I could see him still hold that resentment, he just doesn’t voice it).

Then you have the usual “siblings mess with each other” shenanigans which he can’t really do since his brother doesn’t even need a wand to use his magic due to how powerful he is, so good luck messing with him. I could actually see some scenarios of older teen Schnozmo allowing Cosmo to come with him meet his friends (or Mama Cosma is like “take your brother with you I need a break!”) but only if he does cool stuff with his magic for them. It would probably usually not end well, tho not in an “almost destroyed Fairy World” kind of way thankfully.

Oh and it goes without saying that whenever the two of them argue or mess with each other, Mama Cosma sides with Cosmo, which would only make Schnozmo angry and resentful. In general Schnozmo and Mama Cosma would have a very bad relationship. Given how Mama Cosma is, Schnozmo was likely already closer to his dad, but once Cosmo got in the picture and Papa Cosma was gone, it became a mess. Like I could definitely see instances of Mama Cosma being tired and stressed from watching over a baby Cosmo and taking it out on her older son, constantly ignoring his problems and needs because “can’t you see how exhausted I am having to deal with your dysfunctional brother?!”

And who knows maybe she would have considered kicking him out at some point but decided against it to hide the fact her family’s been breaking apart (keeping up appearances in front of other fairies). On that note I do think Schnozmo would go no-contact with his mom once he moves out, only popping back up in her life if he needs something. Not sure how often she’d accept though.

Going back to the brothers, I think what would change Schnozmo's view would be Cosmo’s teenage years in which his struggles with his magic would become much more obvious, making Schnozmo realize how much of a mess his brother actually is and how much he cares for Cosmo deep down, not wanting to lose him. Now ultimately a lot of their adult relationship have to do with Schnozmo using Cosmo’s kindness and naivete against him, but even then I think he’ll come through if Cosmo needs him.

And speaking of Cosmo’s teen years, Cosmo did not have a good time at school, in any grade. The adults in his life (both in and out of school) either hate him for the destruction he causes + the baby ban or fear him for his powers. His classmates wouldn’t be better, mainly being cautious about him even if he didn’t do anything (their parents would warn them to be careful around him) or some fairies would bully him until he strikes back and then play the victim, getting Cosmo in trouble since “you’re the strongest here you need to be careful!”

His intelligence would also be something he’d get picked on for, with some adults really not helping by calling him a waste of potential, talking about how powerful he is and “how much of a shame it is that so much power was given to someone so stupid who can’t use it properly”.

On that note, I honestly think Cosmo has some sort of learning disability. I mean, in his own words in “Apartnership!” the first Mama Cosma episode, “I’m not smart. Big words confuse me. I have the attention span of a rodent.” and we do see him struggle on several occasions with not understanding words in the og show. Also in “Lost and Founder’s Day” from New Wish he struggles with the spelling of a word, and in “Operation Birthday Takeback” isn’t explicitly told what Dale is doing and figures it out like 30 seconds after Wanda and Peri, with Wanda even making a comment about it (while swooning which is very cute!).

So yeah, while I see him as a prodigy when it comes to using magic (in “This is Your Wish” we see him be able to do incredible things as a kid and he’s clearly doing them on purpose without breaking a sweat), he definitely has a learning disability when it comes to academic stuff, especially when it comes to words from the looks of it.

Tbh you could make a very strong case for Cosmo being neurodivergent, especially adding in the several instances of characters telling him to focus in the og show or just the fact his main issue with magic is the way he understand wishes or the things that come through his brain. Again, in “This is Your Wish” he knows exactly what he’s doing, his train of thought is just different than what’s expected on top of him not realizing the danger of the things he creates.

Also I can’t remember the episode but I saw a scene with him and Wanda talking followed by Wanda and Timmy, and while these two talk Cosmo is just staring off into the distance, completely immobile except for the usual “fairy hovering”, seemingly zoned out. And unlike other instances of him doing that I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a joke in that scene.

So yeah, this man’s probably neurodivergent hence him using his magic in an “unconventional” way, on top of having a learning disability that causes him to struggle with words and be slow to process some information if it’s not explicitly said to him. And when you have those struggles paired with the ability to bend reality to your will by accident, it’s hard.

Another thing about school which would be eerie for him is the fact that he’d start first grade in a school full of fairies, and by the end of middle-school there’s only a single grade left since he’s the last fairy born. So the last year of school he would walk through empty halls and classrooms, meeting teachers who constantly worry about finding new jobs what with the school clearly about to close. This would probably be something that he wouldn’t be picked up for but is still a constant reminder that he’s the reason fairies can’t have kids anymore.

By the way small word about ages but the way I see it the second youngest fairy before Cosmo would be between a week and a few months older (depend if the Fairy World population is in the thousands or the millions), so there are fairies around Cosmo’s age.

And since I’m at it I’ve seen screenshots from an episode showing him and Cupid being in high school together, and I also headcanon him and Wanda as having a bit of an age gap, for example Cosmo being 93 and Wanda 132 years old when they met, something along those lines. So in my headcanon Cosmo and Wanda didn’t go to school together but Cosmo and Cupid did. Also Wanda and Juandissimo were high-school sweethearts, meaning they’re around the same age (tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if the episode showing Cosmo and Cupid also had Wanda at their school but even if that’s the case I’m choosing to ignore it here).

Getting into Cosmo’s teen years, it was though. The bullying and feelings of inadequacy were starting to pile up, along with him fully realizing what “you accidentally killed your father, destroyed Fairy World and probably killed a few fairies doing so, and even though you were a baby at that time who had no idea what he was doing we still think it’s your fault we can’t have babies anymore” truly means. Like the sheer weight of such information must be devastating. Add to it the mess that are teenage hormones and you get someone in a very bad mental space.

Now to give some explanation about my headcanons for magical backup since I’m about to mention it a few times, in “Fairy For a Day” from New Wish, the music fairy makes a comment saying “keep granting each other wishes”, something like that.

So my idea is that magical backup is something every single fairy can suffer from if they don’t use magic to help others for an extended period of time. I would say “if they don’t use magic period other than stuff like teleportation, floating and shape-shifting (aka anything they can do without wands)” but in that case I feel like magical backup wouldn’t be an issue in the slightest. So yeah instead we’re going with them having to help others, especially since in “OddPirates” Wanda wishes to Poof at some point to help him learn, showing fairies can wish to other fairies.

All this to say fairies help each other out in small ways, and if they don’t they fucking die. And considering Cosmo and Wanda seem almost unable to refuse granting their godchildren wishes (at least in the og show, in New Wish you almost never have the “wand deflating” thing because they know beforehand they can’t grant those wishes), on top of scenes like the one in “Apartnership!” when Timmy says “I wish” and dozens of fairies show up, I could see it as fairies being able to refuse wishing for another fairy but being completely unable to do so when a miserable human child does, for reasons I’m too lazy to figure out (probably something about their society needing humans to function to some extent thus having fairies evolve in a way that they need to help humans).

Also I have no idea if magical backup would spread quicker if a fairy has more magic. I guess it’s worth pointing out that for both instances of Cosmo and Wanda getting it, Cosmo was first and it evolved quicker, but then again Wanda wasn’t too far behind. So idk, maybe it does?

Going back to Cosmo, during his teenage years and early adulthood, he would very often suffer the early symptoms of magical backup (confetti + vomiting the way I see it), sometimes worse, due to him refusing to use his magic in fear of hurting other people. In some instances he might even make comments about how Fairy World would be better off without him. Btw this is basically when I see Schnozmo realize just how terrible his brother feels and start being nicer to him. But yeah, Cosmo was in a very bad place as a teen, which continued in early adulthood.

(Side note but him having magical backup so many times could explain him not taking it too seriously at first in the og show, with him pretending to have it for a few seconds to mess with Wanda.)

And throughout all of this Mama Cosma was supportive, telling him there was nothing wrong with him and the others were messing with him and that he should use his magic in small ways if only to keep himself safe...until she didn’t and sent him to boot camp as soon as he was of age.

I like to think that this is when Cosmo started detaching himself from his mom. Just seeing her go overnight from “I love you just the way you are” to “everybody else was right and I’ve been thinking of you as a problem since your birth, I just didn’t want to deal with making you sad” would be a massive betrayal in his eyes.

Note that I believe Mama Cosma sending him to military training is actually a good thing, and pretty much the one good thing that woman did in the show. Given how much destruction we see Cosmo cause, and since as far as we know there aren’t exactly places that could provide the help he needs, a place with strict rules and monitored by potentially very powerful fairies could be the second-best thing to teach him what not to use his magic for.

Btw if you’re wondering I think the best thing for Cosmo would be to have a place where he can use his magic in whatever way he wants without putting anyone or anything at risk. More on that later actually. Second best would be to give him a wand restricting his magic but also I don’t think it would feel good to have something blocking what is supposed to feel natural for you, so it might not be a good solution actually…

In any case, having Mama Cosma reveal she’s been unhappy with her son’s powers this whole time, meaning she’s been lying to him this whole time, would hurt a lot, causing Cosmo to start drawing away from her. On top of that he was now almost an adult so it was also natural for him to seek some independence, even while still living under her roof.

Now onto Cosmo and Wanda’s early relationship (no idea how to make a transition here).

First off, I’m going with the backstory in which the two of them met at a diner, except neither of them were teenagers in my version. As mentioned before Cosmo would be in his late 90s and Wanda around early 130s.

And since I don’t think I mention it anywhere else in this post, I’m going with the headcanon of Cosmo being 10 000 years old during the og show, with him and Wanda being married for 9 895 years as of “Apartnership!” (that’s the number, right?). Which is also why Cosmo is in his late 90s when meeting Wanda, since it means he’d be 105 when they get married (or around that age if you consider that Cosmo is probably not exactly 10 000 years old in the show, rather something like 10 014 for example).

Cosmo would land himself a job as a waiter since he doesn’t need to use magic for it. He’d even let his wand home to further reassure his boss that he’s not doing any magic. He and Wanda meet when Wanda and Blonda come to the place to hang out. Wanda realizes he’s cute and finds herself surprised by it since as mentioned before she was raised with a toxic view of what a man is supposed to be like.

(More specifically I could see Blonda as being the one pointing him out and he accidentally spills a drink on her or something, causing Wanda to be like “oh you’re right sis I like him”.)

Wanda would convince him to go out with her, intrigued by that shy boyfailure trying his best, and during that hangout Cosmo would be pretty closed off, not using any magic partly because he didn’t bring his wand, offhandedly mentioning he got magical backup dozens of times, and by the end of it he’d be like “you’re very smart and pretty and spending time with you was very fun but it’s probably best if we don’t see each other again”.

After the “date” Wanda would talk about it to Blonda who’d probably mock her sister for scaring the guy away. Big Daddy would overhear some of the conversation and recognize Cosmo’s name as the infamous last fairy born whose terrible two almost caused the apocalypse. Wanda and Blonda would be flabbergasted because “dad that guy’s a complete wimp, what do you mean he’s one of the strongest fairies?!” and Wanda would quickly catch onto the fact that this sweet guy is considered a menace, goes around without a wand and has magical backup on the regular, all of which are not good signs.

She’d manage to convince Cosmo to meet her to talk and would just ask him if he’s okay, if he needs someone to talk to. And I could see Cosmo being very taken aback by it, like when he shows up Wanda says she knows about him being the last baby born so he’d immediately assume she’s here to tell him to stay away from her. But no she’s just worried for him and wants to offer some comfort. And with Cosmo at that point having lost trust in his mom, the only person he thought was in his corner, he’d open up to Wanda.

So the two of them would start spending time together, as friends since Cosmo clearly isn’t in the proper state to think about dating right now, though I like to think Wanda was pursuing him a little, if only making him know she’d be interested. But anyways Wanda would quickly catch onto the fact Cosmo never has his wand when they’re together and whenever she suggests he uses hers because it worries her to see him never do magic, he’d refuse, saying it’s safer that way.

Then one day while hanging out Cosmo gets the early signs of magical backup and Wanda doesn’t know what worries her most, seeing him have it or how calm he is about it, which shows how used to it he is. Doesn’t help that he’d insist she brings him home rather than have him use her wand to get rid of it immediately before it gets worse.

That would be the last straw for Wanda who would go to the people her dad works with (her “uncles”) to ask if they know any place where one could use their magic in possibly destructive ways without consequences. And one of them would tell her about the Hocus Poconos, a place where goes all the un-granted wishes from human children. As a result the place is pretty chaotic to begin with and nobody cares what happens to those wishes so it’s fully unsupervised.

So Wanda would waste no time telling Cosmo about that place, convincing him to bring his wand this time around, and after a lot of hesitation and some small wishes he’d start getting more comfortable and unleash his powers, growing visibly more confident. And dumb small note but seeing Cosmo in his element and visibly confident in himself is when Wanda sees him go from cute to hot.

In any case Cosmo would be incredibly grateful and start coming to the Hocus Poconos regularly on his own, feeling a sense of freedom in being able to unleash as much magic as he can while also finding himself loving kids’ imagination, which eventually leads him onto the path to become a godparent.

For Wanda, it’s after seeing Cosmo get better that she realizes how much she enjoys helping others and offer companionship and could see it become her profession. Also maybe the fact the Fairy Council wouldn’t be too keen on letting Cosmo on earth without supervision could influence it as well (meanwhile everyone would think they’re allowed to work together due to being a couple), but then again I don’t want it to be a “she chose this work solely for Cosmo” type of situation.

Same with her helping him with his confidence btw, hence me saying he’d go back to Hocus Poconos on his own. While Cosmo would definitely gush about Wanda saving his life, she didn’t “fix” him or anything like that. She was someone he could talk about his problems to and offered suggestions for things she thought could help him, but he still was the one who had to follow through on his own. And whenever Wanda had issues of her own, he’d return the favor, being there to comfort and help her.

And about him saying Wanda saved his life, after a while of using his magic more and more often, he’d think about how, if he hadn’t met someone like her to encourage him to use his magic without being afraid, he’d probably have either died of magical backup or from its side effects from having it too often. At the same time I’m not going to say “him thinking this is why he fell in love with Wanda” because again I don’t want to fall into the trap of a character “fixing” another or putting them on a pedestal.

Back on topic, having a place to spend his magic would do wonders for Cosmo’s self-esteem, giving him space to try new things, make mistakes or even just create a black hole or two if he feels like it. That doesn’t mean he’d suddenly be completely fine, he’d still feel self-conscious about people hating him for his magic (and tbh just looking at the og show Cosmo comes off as deeply insecure at times, so yeah he’s not suddenly all happy), but it would definitely put him into a better mental state.

Also, feeling more confident he’d start to reciprocate Wanda’s flirting, pursuing her back. And yeah as a result it would be one of those relationships where you significant other is also your best friend.

As for the “speed” of their relationship, I could see the transition from friends to lovers as being a bit slow due to them wanting to make sure this is truly what they both want and not just Cosmo lashing onto the first person he trusts, plus Wanda’s family life is dangerous so she wants Cosmo to make sure he knows what he’s getting himself into. But once their relationship gets serious there’s no stopping it.

And speaking of stopping it, Mama Cosma would notice that her son isn’t having magical backup anymore, causing him to tell her it’s thanks to a girl he’s into, even invite Wanda to dinner so she can meet his mom. Mama Cosma would not be happy about it and would be incredibly passive-aggressive during their meeting, with Wanda keeping the visit short as a result and Cosmo being pretty unhappy seeing how insistent his mom is that he shouldn’t date anyone.

On that note Mama Cosma could be another reason why they took it slow at first, Wanda made it clear she wasn’t having any “mamma’s boy” bullshit. It’s a bit more complicated during the events of the og show since it’s been a long time since Cosmo saw his mom and he believes (and promises to Wanda it’s the case) that his mom’s just being a bit protective due to how long it’s been. Then one day it turns out she was being verbally abusive when babysitting Peri and Cosmo cut contact again and profusely apologized to Wanda for letting his mom talk so much shit about her.

But yeah Cosmo would probably have many fights with his mom about it, Mama Cosma claiming it’s only a matter of time before Cosmo does something to scare Wanda away with his magic and how she’s the only one who can watch over him, while Cosmo is throwing in her face the fact she sent him to military school while Wanda loves him the way he is and is trying to help him in a much more constructive way.

I could actually see those arguments as a bit of a surprise to Mama Cosma because not only does Cosmo find his mom intimidating meaning he usually doesn’t speak out against her, but in general Mama Cosma would be used to getting her way, especially with him. The fact Cosmo is much more powerful than her would also bother her because she can’t just force him to go to his room or anything else. And if he does something to leave the conversation, she can’t stop him. So yeah those arguments wouldn’t be pretty.

And eventually, when Cosmo has to make the choice, he decides to chose Wanda, eloping in secret and never having any contact with his mom, at least until the events of the og show. There would likely be times when he deeply misses her but he remembers why he left home and that’s enough to keep him away.

For Wanda, she never straight up told her father that her and Cosmo were dating, she made it sound like they were nothing more than friends and if anything she works with Cosmo to “supervise” him (in Big Daddy’s first appearance we learn Wanda writes him letters so the two are still in touch). Big Daddy still wouldn’t be too happy about it tho, especially later on during the og show when he learns that they are a couple.

His issues with it are that 1. Cosmo isn’t exactly the height of masculinity so Big Daddy can’t help but look down on him for not being manly enough (I actually like to think this is why he believed Wanda’s lie that they weren’t a couple; he couldn’t conceive the possibility of Wanda dating such a guy) and 2. He remembers Cosmo’s Terrible Two very well and is worried about him hurting Wanda with his magic. Especially since him being a mafia boss means his daughter already got a target on her back, he doesn’t want her to be in even more risk.

(Note that Wanda was already a late teen/adult when Cosmo’s terrible two happened, so she at least heard of it and saw some of the consequences, but she likely didn’t see the worst of it; like maybe Big Daddy lives pretty far from the city center of Fairy World and had his daughters stay home during Cosmo’s terrible two while he was forced to continue working, hence seeing more than his girls)

(And if it needs to be said Big Daddy’s issues with Cosmo not being masculine enough have nothing to do with transphobia. Big Daddy would be fully accepting of Wanda and possibly Blonda (if they’re identical twins) being trans women and couldn’t care less about what Cosmo has in his pants. His problem is that Cosmo isn’t muscular, cries easily, is a bit of a cowards, and likes to wear stereotypically feminine clothing sometimes, none of which is related to Cosmo being trans.)

Ultimately he’s not as openly hostile as Mama Cosma but he definitely acts like Cosmo isn’t here when seeing him. And whenever Wanda comes to visit her dad, he doesn’t mention Wanda’s love life in any way and brushes it off quickly if Wanda does, or he shifts the conversation towards his grandson instead once Peri’s born. Note that I see Wanda as visiting her father without Cosmo, mainly for Cosmo’s safety because mafia.

Oh and Cosmo never met the guy before the og show but he did know who he was from hearing about him from Wanda + possibly knowing his company’s name. Wanda would have also warned him about the mafia part hence why Cosmo is so nervous and visibly scared of the guy in the show. He might not be the brightest bulb but he understands the danger this man brings with him.

Finishing this post with a few words about Poof/Peri, when Cosmo was pregnant he would have had some worries over how powerful the kid would end up being, wishing to protect his baby from the emotional mess he went through. And while the kid is more powerful than average, Cosmo was infinitely relieved to see Peri remains much weaker than him.

That’s not to say it’s all sunshine and rainbows, again I go further into it in the baby ban post but the short version is that the Fairy Council is keeping an eye on Peri on account of being Cosmo’s son, including giving him a wand that reduces his magic despite him technically not needing it.

Cosmo isn’t the biggest fan of that wand but he’d rather have this than Peri going through hell for being too powerful. Meanwhile Wanda’s getting tired of Fairy World punching down on her boys. On that note once fairies realized the baby ban wasn’t going away anytime soon and started to hate on the Fairywinkle-Cosmas, Coswan quickly decided they’d move out of Fairy World once Peri’s old enough to take care of himself, hence the 10 000 years vacation followed by them “moving” to the human world.

(Note that they would invite Peri to their vacation + send him postcards + look for him after coming back, it’s just that Peri refused to go so he could have some time for himself + turned off the wand location thing, probably also left a message at home saying he found a job and is doing fine, hence why they weren’t too worried for him)

That being said (the wand restriction thing) I could definitely see Peri at some point hurting someone at spellementary school (which would be before he got his wand change) and deciding not to use his magic anymore, leading to him and Cosmo having a heart-to-heart about their magics.

Tbh this could also be a reason why Peri seems closer to Cosmo, maybe they bonded over being deemed too powerful. That being said Cosmo wouldn’t tell his son the extent of his situation, not wanting to worry him. Especially since he’d be doing much better now and is genuinely happy so there’s no point dwelling on the bad parts of his past.

#Fairly Oddparents #fop #Cosmo Fairywinkle-Cosma #Wanda Fairywinkle-Cosma #Peri Fairywinkle-Cosma #Mama Cosma #Big Daddy Fairywinkle #Flor talks #long post #*slapping Cosmo's head* this bad boy can hold so much trauma in him #very amused by how this wasn't supposed to be its own post but instead a bunch of thoughts sprinkled through the other ones #but then it got ridiculously long so here we are #also it was supposed to be all about Cosmo hence why his part is much longer #but since I got a few ideas for Wanda I put them in; girl deserves some love too #the 'Cosmo and Wanda relationship' part is an example of something I COULD turn into a fic #but don't have enough ideas for what to put in-between the 'important' scenes I have in mind to make the story work #also I'm very bad at fluff

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