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they need me

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she's a nice woman, kris

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their what do not re-post instagram | twitter | bluesky

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their what do not re-post instagram | twitter | bluesky

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So there's this post with a troubling number of notes going around insisting that "dead dove" is not a genre, it doesn't inherently have anything to do with darkfic, and that the tag could be applied to fics that are "100% fluffy where everyone's having a good time" if they happen to contain some abnormal (though entirely non-problematic) content like an unusual kink. The claim is that "dead dove: do not eat" is simply a "courtesy tag" that means "this is a very specific niche, mind the tags." And that's just... wrong.

I wrote up a whole rebuttal to this post since I can't stand misinformation and frankly OP was being kinda rude and judgey on top of their wrongness. But right after I posted my reply, OP turned off reblogs because, and I quote, “some fuckwad added some dumb shit onto this post and it is no longer educational” (the ���fuckwad” being me and the “dumb shit” being proof that they were wrong). A couple people have asked me to make a rebloggable version of my response, which I've decided to do because this isn't the first time I've heard similar claims and I want to help set the record straight. However, I'm not linking the original post on the off chance this gains traction because OP did the right thing by turning off reblogs, preventing it from circulating further, and I don't want them to get hate for being unfortunately misinformed.

For those who don't know the history, "dead dove: do not eat" was originally proposed as a catchall "hydra trash party" alternative label for any fandom to warn that the content of a fic may be considered problematic or potentially upsetting and to read the tags carefully so you know what you're getting into and won't complain later. Specifically, DD:DNE was intended to convey that the Bad Things in the fic would likely be reveled in and not explicitly condemned by the narrative, which some people tend to get up in arms about, hence the need for the extra warning in addition to the tags. Don't believe me? Here's the original proposal (note DD:DNE can be found on a handful of fics dated before 2015 but this is when it really took off and became a Thing).

There are currently around 50,000 fics tagged as "dead dove: do not eat" on AO3 and close to 50% of those also include the rape/noncon warning (which of course is not the only type of "dead dove" but is one of the most popular and most consistently tagged). The normal percentage of noncon fics in any given fandom? Around 1-3%. That's a HUGE disparity. So don't tell me that dead dove is just a general "courtesy tag" and doesn't or shouldn't have dark connotations. Even the context of the original joke on Arrested Development has a dark undertone. Micheal Bluth casually finds an animal carcass in a bag in his refrigerator with the label "do not eat", as if eating it would be any sane person's first thought. The whole situation is kinda fucked up. And this fucked up vibe very much carries over into fandom usage too, as was intended.

The claim that dead dove has nothing to do with the content's genre and could just as easily be used to describe a 100% fluffy fic in which everyone's having a good time is straight up Wrong, or at the very least, severely warping the original meaning. Also, when someone these days says that they like/dislike "dead dove" most people in fandom automatically understand what that means because of the consistency of its usage over the years and the way language evolves. Whether you like it or not, "dead dove" IS a genre now and the term does carry a specific connotation. I do agree that DD:DNE should definitely still be used in conjunction with other tags, when applicable, to be explicit about the exact type of fucked up content you may find, but to say that the term is meaningless on its own is patently false and I'm tired of people who don't know what they're talking about pushing this narrative and causing even more confusion.

You want a generic term that also means "mind the tags" and doesn't have any inherently dark connotations? Just use good ol' "what it says on the tin" instead of trying to force dead dove to be something it's not.

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Kris and Susie's bromance transcends time

Kris would ask Susie if she remembers when they both fell off their bikes as kids and pretended to be dead, and Susie would say she remembers and that it was epic

No, that didn't happen

Susie wasn't even in Hometown when she was a kid

They became friends, like, three days ago.

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dance if youre a mysterious shadow guy

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S'Mores Pie Recipe

Follow for recipes

Is this how you roll?

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some wips warm-ups ive been teasing twitter with teehee

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❤️　* im nice.....

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That one video of G-Man 's voice for Gaster really got me in the mood for some art of the old weirdo

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Pretty fucked up of how a solid portion of the holiday household are implied to have a absolute VICE GRIP on Kris. Like. At this point they might as well be a Holiday with how entwined this kid is with them, what a crazy family friend conundrum

YEAH. like it makes sense for two families to be really fucking close but like. kris really has sworn a life debt to dess' mom on behalf of dess which is a lot,

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susie and tenna burger enjoyment

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Everytime you die to him, you take less damage the next time around cause he's really excited to show you the next stage of the fight and is getting a lil impatient about reaching it.

gaster fight where he keeps resetting the whole fight back to the beginning because he comes up with more and more creative bullet patterns to impress the player

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Just realised that (assuming Dess Knight) literally everyone Noelle loves or cares about is keeping secrets from her

Carol: Knows Dess is sort of alive, toxic conspiracy with Kris

Rudy: The severity of his illness

December: Is sort of alive, is a nightmarish spectre of the apocalypse, tried to kill her crush and childhood friend

Susie: The Dark Worlds, the Shelter situation

Kris: Knows Dess is sort of alive, toxic conspiracy with Carol, is currently possessed, the Dark Worlds, the Shelter situation

Catti: More speculative, but I can't imagine she's shared her thoughts on Susie

Berdly: Thinks she has a crush on him and is leading her on (Technically he admitted it, but both of them still think that was a dream, so it still counts)

Noelle's grievance list is longer than her face, it's actually so sad you guys