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this post is kind of bs im sorry😭 like how do u want steve to be involved in a story that he has almost no part in? It doesn’t mean he serves no purpose, he is Soda’s best friend and Pony and his relationship is just that. His older brothers best friend, not every character has to serve a purpose and it wouldn’t make sense if in his book, about his two friends dying, Steve(who has nothing to do with whats going on), has an entire character arc on the side. He doesnt play a big part, obviously we aren’t going to see a lot of his character especially from the person he has a distant relationship with, his only personality is not ‘bullying Pony’, he doesn’t hate Pony and isn’t relentlessly mean to him in every time he comes into the book. Not every character needs to serve a purpose, there are many other characters in the book who don’t exactly serve a purpose either, just characters. And pony is the narrator, so of course, it’s going to show his interactions with Pony and even then he isn’t exactly bullying him, it’s teasing, which is a lot different. Also idk how ur going to do a character study then say he lacks ambition/passion when he clearly has that. Most of his character that is mentioned is talking about his ambitions, he loves cars and wants to be a mechanic he has a clear passion and thats literally mentioned abt his character so idk how ur gonna say he doesn’t have a ambition because his ambition is literally one of the first things mentioned about him. It’s like Tim Shepard, Curly and Angela too, they are all ‘useless’ to the book and could’ve been written off yet it doesn’t make them ‘bad characters.’ Steve’s character is made clear, and he gives some grasps to give your own take on the specifics. Not arguing or anything, but?

Why do you hate Steve so much?

Not trying to be mean at all

Just generally curious to what he did to make you despise him?

He’s fugly <3

Jk, but in The Outsiders, he’s never given a proper part. Of course we can see that he’s snarky and all of that. But- that isn’t character. No, that’s just him being a dick.

And I hate how he’s characterized (in fandom) as sweet and all of that when he acts so uniquely with Ponyboy. While I don’t mind much about him, there’s just a certain distaste I get for Steve.

His whole character is just bullying Ponyboy >:( And honestly, while it can be funny- he doesn’t offer anything. We know that him and Soda are best friends and that he might have a heart. (When Dallas was shot and he cried, also when Two-Bit tried pretending to be sad over a switchblade in which Steve gets angry) But that doesn’t define him.

Ive done a character study on him and have come to the fact that he doesn’t have ambitions. He isn’t shown to have goals or basically a reason for being in the book. I don’t hate Steve, but rather the lack of “Steve”

With Ponyboy and Johnny you get character, you understand their goals and reasons. You’re actually able to connects it’s something that’s there. But, Steve’s only ambition is to bully Ponyboy (which in my case doesn’t help because i love Ponyboy. I hate you Steve… 😒)

I feel like I can go on for days about how much I hate Steve. While it’ll feel like I’m going in circles for disliking Steve, it’s because THERES NOTHING ELSE TO HIM! He’s just a random greaser with daddy issues. Like cmon, EVERY GREASER HAS DADDY ISSUES.

S.E Hinton made practically a character that serves no purpose other than to show Ponyboys character development. And I hate how much potential he had. But hates kinda a strong word, THAT FITS STEVE DUDE. He probably doesn’t even know how to spell it man.

Someone put him through character development and I’ll change my opinions. But for now, just understand that I cannot enjoy something that is nothing. And- to be rude- Steve is nothing. Nothing maleable to give a sense to actually like him.

You don’t like Steve. You like what Steve could’ve been. And that’s what pisses me the most off about Steve.

Rant over, what if I said everything above was a joke? ;3

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Rip Ponyboy Curtis you would have loved the hamiltion musicial, and vapes(he has his chocolate cigarette now he just had to wait for 80 years), also would’ve loved shows like bjhm and documentaries, the interesting ones and you would’ve loved the eclipse today

Rip Bob Sheldon you wouldve loved uber eats so bad

Rip Cherry Vallence you wouldve loved the heathers musical

Rip Twobit you wouldve loved family guy and trolling fast food employees

Rip Steve you would’ve loved getting a school chromebooks and wouldve HATED goguardian, number 1 opp, he would’ve been so techy and would’ve made money off it, think lip gallgher from shameless type, hes so lip gallagher trust 🙏 SO smart but just too stupid to do anything anything about it

Rip Johnny Cade you wouldve loved not being present in this world because music is blasting in your ears

Rip Darry you would’ve loved sports today and HATED going to walmart(would have to go to walmart every single time because hes broke) would have loved self-checkout

Rip Sodapop you would’ve loved chat-gpt and photomath

hopefully these make sense dally doesnt get one because i dont feel like it! Everypony, please, tell me if these are horrible because i honestly dont know also please talk to me about them in the comments because 🙏 also i wanna write something the outsiders but idk know what, might try writing something modern times but if anypony has a suggestion u should msg me

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Songs that fit the outsiders characters

They would NOT listen to most of them, ever but I think they fit them so just stick w me) also please talk to me about others or call me out if they are wrong please, going to add as I go along, also if you want my reason for any lmk, some of these for the less important characters r just in my head, more will be added over time these r mostly just for fun but if you think any r like horribly off lmk

Sylvia

Teenage Whore-Hole

Miss World-Hole

Call Me-Blondie(in the bride of chucky way)

Steve Randle

Man of War-Radiohead(soda being in the war, “would keep fighting and hating”)

Trees- McCafferty (just reminded me of him)

Dally

You Know You’re Right-Nirvana

Come As You Are-Nirvana(did indeed have a gun)

Please Please Let Me Get What I Want-Deftones

Crack Baby-Mitski

Im Your Man-Mitski(literally him and johnny lyric by lyric)

Bob Sheldon

Thursday Girl-Mitski

A Mistake-Fiona Apple

Johnny

Twin Sized Mattress-the front bottoms

I Bet On Losing Dogs-Mitski

Grace-Jeff Buckley

Cherry

I want you to love me- Fiona Apple

Sullen Girl-Fiona Apple

Ponyboy Curtis

Tradesman-Zach Bryan

I was all over her-Salvia Path(just the song in general)

Beware-Deftones

Hold Till May-Pierce the Veil(Johnny being the other half)

Change(In the house of flies)-Deftones

Randy Adderson

-Texas Reznikoff

Sodapop Curtis

Stick Season-Noah Kahan

I don’t Smoke-Mitski

I will-Mitski

Because Dreaming Costs Money, My Dear-Mitski(First strand of lyrics is Pony, rest is him)

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people who hate the socs just for being socs do not get them like i do you can hate BOB, sure, but look into his character bcs its so interesting 🙏people who hate randy and cherry for their involvement (or think there bad people) need to think about it, socs are just as bad as greasers and that was A MAIN point in the book, Bob is a bad person of course, but you can’t say you hate bob or cherry and then love Dally who was the same, if not worse as bob i could go on and on about any of those socs, also people that hate cherry and think she’s responsible for everything also do not get the book😭 cherry villianizeres i hate you also bob is such an interesting character and hes complex!! okay!! hes a complex character like Dally, also the soda-steve randy-bob comparison in the book is so overlooked also did you know randy became a hippie after the events of the book this post probably doesnt make a lot of sense but here

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