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Hello! I’ve seen you give advice to other people on this, and I was hoping you could give me some. I think advice from an older LGBT person would aid me in my predicament :)
I’m fairly certain of myself being a lesbian, and I have been for as long as I can remember (even if I didn’t know the word for it), but relatively recently I’ve thought of myself as being a trans man- I’m attracted to women as a female, but I view my gender as wholly male. It feels wrong to claim myself as one and not the other, but I’ve been told by others that you cannot be both.
Basically… are lesbian trans men a thing? Can I be both?
I am frankly not sure how to really give you a good answer. Only you can know your heart and reasoning for why both lesbian and trans man resonate with you. Loving or being attacted to women as a female sounds pretty lesbian to me. ;)
But it sounds like perhaps it is presentation in public (the idea of gender as a social construct) as a trans man feels comfortable you.
I have had many lesbians friends through the years, particularly women's festival friends who, when in the presence of women/lesbians used lesbian and woman but when in the greater world presented and described themselves as trans men. It didn't really seem incongruent to me. I could understand why being seen as a man, even feeling more attached to being a trans man would be a way to be more safe, less hassled by mixed company in social situations, jobs, etc
When someone sees me as a man, depending on the circumstances I used to definitely let them think what they think becase it was easier for me. Now that I am older and more confident in my voice I correct them gently.
I don’t think your experience is every trans masc/trans man/lesbian experience but certainly you are not alone. The strong push to divide lesbians, particularly butches, and trans men just wasn’t a thing I came out to or was around and I mostly see it on line and not in any real life friend groups.
I do think you will get more push back on line or in echo chambers of thought than you will with real life friends or with in intergenerational lesbians groups. Most lesbians with some life under their belts will not be so hung up on making you define yourself by strict definitions that only serve to ignore what is your reality of being a female attracted to other females but also having your reasons to connect to being a trans man.
Not everyone will be comfortable with that dichotomy but some will and those are the friend groups you want to put energy into.
I don’t want to go into a bunch of “actually... it is like this” or “are you sure you aren’t just this” because I am not a therpist nor do I know anything about your life. Feel free to come into my DM’s if you want to talk things over with someone who will not judge you for needing to talk things through.
If you decide to attend a women’s festival, and I would HIGHLY recommend you do because I think you might meet others who feel exactly as you do, I will but links at the end. Having other people to relate to can be very helpful. You only would have to suck it up for a week and be okay being seen as a lesbian only for a few days. But the connections you would make could travel into your real life and help you to form an understanding friend group.
I suggest the Ohio Lesbian Festival Or perhaps Fern Fest
https://ohiolesbianfestival.org/
https://www.michiganfernfest.com/
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Friendly reminder that there’s lesbian transmascs/transmen out there and they’re 100% valid and anyone who claims otherwise is simply wrong and silly and that’s that.
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“trans men will no longer look like women”
well, that’s why only a minority of lesbians are willing to date trans men. some are though, I’m guessing because they are attracted to sex, not gender. and don’t forget about trans men who don’t pass/barley pass. I bring up straight women because it compares how we are actually more likely to live a normal life among the lesbian community.
Dear new transmasc followers, my gay male boards are for homosexual males (amab4amab) and not straight girls roleplaying. I don't sugarcoat the fact that TM are women and TW are men. Please unfollow me if that makes you uncomfortable!
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Lesbians report being attracted to trans men though. To deny this is saying exactly what I was saying above, that a actually large group of lesbians are actually lying bisexuals.
Dear new transmasc followers, my gay male boards are for homosexual males (amab4amab) and not straight girls roleplaying. I don't sugarcoat the fact that TM are women and TW are men. Please unfollow me if that makes you uncomfortable!
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holy shit, that’s hilarious. you’re actually saying there is THIRTEEN times more lying bisexuals in the study than straight women attracted to trans men?
Dear new transmasc followers, my gay male boards are for homosexual males (amab4amab) and not straight girls roleplaying. I don't sugarcoat the fact that TM are women and TW are men. Please unfollow me if that makes you uncomfortable!
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19.8% of lesbians would date a hypothetical trans man, while only 1.5% of straight women would, so, yes, the truth is a hill im willing to die on.
Dear new transmasc followers, my gay male boards are for homosexual males (amab4amab) and not straight girls roleplaying. I don't sugarcoat the fact that TM are women and TW are men. Please unfollow me if that makes you uncomfortable!
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im not expecting anyone to be attracted to anyone. lesbians are already more attracted to trans men than straight women are.
Dear new transmasc followers, my gay male boards are for homosexual males (amab4amab) and not straight girls roleplaying. I don't sugarcoat the fact that TM are women and TW are men. Please unfollow me if that makes you uncomfortable!
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me before i learn that homosexual women are more likely to be open to dating trans men than heterosexual women, so creating a place for trans men in the lesbian community actually makes trans men more likely to live normal lives
Dear new transmasc followers, my gay male boards are for homosexual males (amab4amab) and not straight girls roleplaying. I don't sugarcoat the fact that TM are women and TW are men. Please unfollow me if that makes you uncomfortable!
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hey dumbass. they only includes asexual people if their lgb AS WELL as asexual. i don’t know how you missed that. it literally says “trans and ace lgb”
to make this easier for a dumbass like you: they do not include asexuals in lgb
Dear new transmasc followers, my gay male boards are for homosexual males (amab4amab) and not straight girls roleplaying. I don't sugarcoat the fact that TM are women and TW are men. Please unfollow me if that makes you uncomfortable!
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you are not evil for wanting to acknowledge both your homosexuality and transsexuality
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Our flags so far
Our beloved lesbian transman flag
Detransitioned lesbian
T4T lesbian transman
Cusper lesbian
The two butch flag we will use
The two fem flags we will use (if they ever get suggested)
Transmasc lesbian
Will be updated with reblogs as needed!
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FAQ!
What is a lesbian transman?
Simply put: a lesbian! Since transmen are biologically female, if a transman is attracted only to other females (including other transmen) that makes him a homosexual female, otherwise known as a lesbian :)
Is this a seriously run blog or is it a joke?
This is a just-for-fun blog for people to give us their various lesbian headcanons, and isn’t meant to be much more than that.
Who can interact?
We prefer no males (cis men, transwomen, etc.) interact with our blog. Other than that there are no bounds! We’ve gotten a few questions on if non-lesbians can send in requests, and you absolutely can!
We will add onto this list as needed!
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