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I'm probably just too much of an anxious person....

But....

I feel relieved when they've been spotted. Just a little message after they've left the area of "I saw them in person. They're happy" is really just enough for me. I am getting more worried with all the crash outs happening that they could be put in danger while doing all this traveling.

I know it’s a nuanced topic, but I wish people would at least wait until they’re known to be out of the country (like already spotted back in Korea) before even hinting about them being Somewhere or posting proof. I don’t even have Twitter, but insta feeds a lot of these recent pics and videos to me because the members are tagged and I look at stuff related to them and it’s really concerning how many accounts spread them and how they’re still in these countries while all this is being spread.

I just feel like it’s a fan culture thing we need to work on to be more respectful of their safety and not posting their every movement. If they are filming something, I’m sure they’d also want it to be a surprise where they travel for their show. This just feels like a continuation of a certain culture that we saw at their discharge with the amount of people who showed up despite being asked not to. I know they’re public figures and fans will get excited and people will take photos, but some of what’s going on is not great and I worry for their safety. As long as I’ve been in the fandom, I don’t think I’ve seen members ever tracked this heavily. And I just don’t want our jikooker spaces to perpetuate this culture, I know we’re all excited but just want everyone to remember that we aren’t entitled to know where they are or if they’re together or whatever until they let us know (like jimins insta).

Are people seriously tagging the members on Instagram? That is absolutely wild. It’s honestly unbelievable how some people still don’t understand basic boundaries. There has to be a line, and this clearly crosses it.

I completely agree with you. If fans happen to see them in public, the respectful thing to do is wait until they’ve already left the country before saying anything like, “Oh, I saw this idol,” or “They were here.” Announcing their presence while they’re still in the area puts them at risk. Right now, it feels like some people are borderline tracking their movements, and that is not only inappropriate, but it is also incredibly unsafe for them.

With this latest destination, it really feels like things are starting to spiral a bit. The level of obsession is becoming harder to ignore. And even though some Jikookers might not want to admit it, there is this growing desperation to know where they are at all times. For many, it is not just curiosity. There is a deeper need for confirmation and reassurance that they are together. Some people still feel insecure, or they are too easily influenced by whatever chaos the Vecinas stir up, and that creates this constant pressure to prove something.

I think that is where the real problem lies. It is not just about wanting content or updates. It has turned into a need for control and validation. And when that happens, people start justifying behaviour that really should not be normalised.

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There's a reason we don't talk about it on timelines. 🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫

😮‍💨 but I've seen it more often and it's used to prove a point in Twitter battles rather than staying in dms where it should remain so that people unfamiliar or too curious don't start snooping.

Hi Rosie!

I was wondering if you know about that rumour about the leaked list of couples from Dispatch. I think it was between 2017 to 2018, iirc. I wasn't there when it happened, but I've been going through content and posts about Jikook and came across that.

Apparently, all couples from the list were confirmed to be official in the several months after it leaked, except for Jikook. Have you heard about it? I just found it interesting that something like that (potentially) happened. Thank you.

Hi Anon, yes, I’m aware of that rumour and I’ve seen the supposed list. To this day, I have no idea where that list was first published, but it’s something known among Jikookers, though interestingly, it’s not mentioned that often. Yeah, supposedly, the other couples on that list were eventually confirmed, but I don’t know. I don’t think there was ever a clear context for it. Nowadays, it feels more like an urban myth than anything else.

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I think it's shock at how quickly they jumped back in together.

For some of us it sets our minds shifting - changing expectations and filing the information away and also wondering what else this will affect and how else it will look moving forward.

I do Wonder why everyone is so shocked they want to spend time together

Like if we think they are together as in boyfriends/partners, it’s normal?

Like I live with my partner, have been for 5 years, do I want a break from them, no? Do we live together and travel together, yes.

Even though they’ve spent 18 months side by side they were really just doing what most working people do, working in the day and coming home at night kinda vibes, yes in harder circumstances but the essence is the same.

I’m baffled by this shock

Unless most jikookers didn’t really believe they were actually together, then that would explain it

We’ve had so many people even in here try and insist they have a situationship or have broken up before or all sorts of nonsense that justifies their own thoughts and bias, not Jikooks reality of course…

Because their reality is theirs alone, but from what we see, I’ve always known they were partners. That they present as such, so I’m not at all shocked they are doing this, travelling right now after their experience, but maybe if you are to ought to question you bias and maybe even your internalised homophobia ?

I think for a lot of people, it’s not really a shock in the sense of “I can’t believe they spend so much time together,” but more like a quiet sort of surprise, like “Wow, they really do spend a lot of time together.” It’s the kind of realisation that makes you pause for a second and think, they never seem to get tired of each other. That’s not something you see very often. In most relationships, whether it’s a close friendship or something romantic, there usually comes a point where you just need a bit of space. Not because anything is wrong, but simply because people need time on their own sometimes. Of course, that might not apply to everyone, but I do think it’s what many of us assume when it comes to Jimin and Jungkook. The fact that they seem so comfortable constantly being around each other is a bit unexpected, in the best way.

At the same time, I think we’re also just naturally dramatic about all of it. We overanalyse, we spiral, and we create these little emotional narratives because it’s fun. It adds an extra layer to the whole experience of being a fan. There’s something entertaining about getting carried away with it all, even if we know deep down that we might be reading too much into things. It’s harmless, and weirdly, it brings people together.

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They're proving how incapable they are of handling a parasocial relationship and how psycho their thinking is. Family members and coworkers should be concerned that they're showing these traits over complete strangers and wondering how that affects other areas of their lives.

This is random but I wonder if solos will ever realize JK and JM are not gonna separate from one another. Despite how they scream from the rooftops they secretly hate each other or they have secret partners, it doesn't change what we've seen on screen or even just what the members have said. Whether dating or friends (I believe the former personally but for arguments sake), those two are glued at the f*cking hip. Not even just glued, they are welded together. They've been this way for so long and I can't fathom seeing it as a bad thing. Whatever relationship it is, it's so beautiful to see such a deep bond that is so kind and loving. How could anyone see that as bad? Truly baffling to me. Hope they get well soon or just get out.

I honestly think that’s where the real problem lies, mainly when it comes to Jungkook’s solos. Although, to be fair, I think it applies to some of Jimin’s solos as well. The difference is that with them, it hadn’t been as obvious until recently. It’s starting to show more now.

What seems to really get under their skin is the fact that their precious little doll is not behaving the way they expect him to. They had this idea in their heads that he would act a certain way or follow a certain narrative, and now they are realising he does not. He is not under their control, and it is driving them mad. They are learning the hard way that he genuinely does what he wants, when he wants, and he does not feel the need to ask anyone’s permission. In that sense, they are actually very similar to The Vecinas. There is a sense of entitlement there, this idea that they get to dictate someone else’s choices, and when reality doesn’t match up to their fantasy, they lash out.

Jimin and Jungkook have made it incredibly clear, time and time again, that they are not interested in pleasing the louder parts of the fandom. It really does not matter how big or small that group is. They were not concerned about it back in 2019. They were not bothered in 2023. And judging by everything that’s been going on lately, they are even less concerned now. If anything, they seem even more set on doing their own thing, no matter who gets upset about it.

All these threats and tantrums we have seen over the last few days from people who call themselves fans are, quite frankly, ridiculous. They are completely empty. Empty because they will not lead to anything. Or at least, not to anything meaningful. The only thing they achieve is exposing themselves. Not just as haters of Jimin or Jungkook, depending on which side they are on, but as people who are willing to turn against their own favourite just because things did not go the way they imagined in their heads. It is embarrassing, really. They are not proving anything, except how delusional and petty they can be when reality does not cater to their fantasy.

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Is it just me, or am I seeing a lot more accounts from pjms, jjks, tkkrs who are crashing out on rumours about what Jimin and Jungkook are doing/working on? We don't even know what it is and where they are, and these people are losing it and posting about how they're dropping the artist they supposedly love?

Everyone and their mothers are going through jikook spaces to lash out, but not other BTS duos. It doesn't take a genius to understand why Jkkrs are being targeted. They're just proving that Jikook bothers them so much and makes them uncomfortable. Imagine how this got out of hand without any confirmation on what they're actually doing right now? Tell me your stanning for your ego and pride instead of the artist you said you "love" and "support".

“Tell me your stanning for your ego and pride instead of the artist you said you "love" and "support".”

THIS! I’ve been saying this for so long, and these past few days have only confirmed it again. I’ve seen solos say they’ll stop supporting Jimin or Jungkook if they work with each other, and honestly, I have no words. What kind of fan says that? I understand if you don’t like a show or a song. That’s totally fine. You’re not required to watch or listen to everything. Being a fan isn’t some contract. It’s not an obligation.

But the truth is, we don’t actually know what they’re doing. Everyone’s guessing they’re filming the second season of their show, but maybe they’re not. Some people think they’re working on a music video or recording something, but again, nobody knows. They could just be travelling. Maybe they’re not. The point is, why are people acting like they’ve got the full picture when they clearly don’t? The way some of them are reacting is just ridiculous. It’s pathetic. And it’s honestly kind of sad. Because it shows, once again, that they’re not here for the actual artist. They’re here for the fantasy. For how it makes them feel.

And that’s not only hypocritical, it’s unfair. It’s wrong. It’s wrong to behave like that and it’s wrong to have zero respect for the decisions made by the very people they claim to love and support. It’s obvious Jimin and Jungkook enjoy being together. That’s not something anyone’s going to change. If it hasn’t changed after all this time, it’s not going to change now. So you either deal with it, or you deal with it.

But the way they’re spiralling is just absurd. Honestly, I hope they leave the fandom and stop talking about them altogether. Jimin and Jungkook don’t deserve to be dragged down by people with that kind of mindset. They don’t deserve that energy.

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JK to taekookers and JK solos

I just have to ask them, since that cult won't stay out of Jikook spaces or off Jikook's back. Why do you want Tae to date Jk, who you claim does fanservice & hurts him? Why do you want Tae to date Jk, who prioritizes another man over him? Why do you want Tae to date JK, who spends couple days with another man and not him? Why do you want Tae to date JK, who enlisted with another man over him? Why do you want Tae to date JK, who told 20 million people he showers with another man? Why do you want Tae to date JK, who went on vacations with another man & created a show together, said he wanted to do the show for 50 years with him, where Tae had no clue & found out through group chat and had to insist on coming himself? Why do you want Tae to date Jk, when he was clearly happy with someone else?

These are valid questions. Nothing here would be considered healthy or romantic. So what do you get out of it then, if TK is real? Wanting to see them date cause they're hot? Popular? or cause you're scared to see your bias with someone else so you say its cosplayers & use JK to feel better? Clearly its not because you think they're in love, because you don't love someone & do 'fanservice' with someone else, shower with someone else & tell the world while throwing it in your partners face or leave someone you love to enlist with someone else, when you had a chance to be together. They can't answer it cause its never been about TK, its about them wanting it for them no matter how toxic it is. What does that cult think is gonna happen? Jk is gonna get out of the shower with Jimin and go get in Tae's shower? What do PJM's think is gonna happen. Jimin is gonna leave Jk's side after 18 months and never speak to him again? What do JJK's think is gonna happen. Jk is gonna drop Jimin and marry them or some woman to fulfill their fantasies? All this crashing out over Jikook since enlistment & discharge & traveling together from all sides, is pure insanity. All while JIkook are living their best lives without a care in the world about your negativity or your tears. This fandom needs a real reality check.

You know what’s funny, anon? Taekookers are losing their minds over Jungkook traveling with Jimin to multiple countries right after his military discharge even though, on the day Jungkook was discharged ,Tae was off hanging out with his Wooga friends. You never see them upset at Tae for not being there with Jungkook, even though you’d think that’s when a boyfriend would be expected to show up. But God forbid Jungkook decides to spend time traveling with someone he’s just spent 18 months with in the military.

The reason Taekookers are so quick to strip Jungkook of his autonomy and paint him as some kind of puppet is because deep down, they know that if Taekook were truly in a relationship, then it’s clearly not an ideal one. So to cope, they convince themselves that everything Jungkook does for, to, or with Jimin is either forced or tied to some contractual obligation. That way, Jungkook isn’t a “bad boyfriend” he’s just doing what he has to do. He’s not choosing to be with Jimin, he’s simply following orders.

They’ll say anything to avoid admitting that Jungkook does these things with Jimin because he wants to. But of course, it wouldn’t make sense to them that Jungkook would rather travel the world with Jimin than spend quality time with a “boyfriend” he barely saw for 18 months so instead, they twist the narrative to fit their fantasy.

Truth is, they want Taekook to be in a romantic relationship so badly that they’ll accept any theory no matter how far-fetched as long as it protects that illusion.

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i just want to say, as a vminie, i really appreciate your account. thank you for actually trying to understand their relationship. jm and th are indeed fundamentally very different people who want different things out of life (and it makes them bump heads sometimes lol) but that doesn’t mean their relationship is any less close or meaningful to them. i often see jikookers dismiss the “soulmate” label or claim jm and th aren’t as close as they claim to be. for me, the appeal of vmin’s relationship is that they love each other to the extent that they can overlook their differences and put the effort in to understand each other. they have ups and downs but always fall back on each other

vminies understand that they aren’t model best friends. they are soulmates because they complete each other, not because they are the same person. certain jikookers have become so dismissive of vmin’s bond because they didn’t enlist in the buddy system. but that’s not a fair judgement. being very different people, they had different desires for their military service. friends shouldn’t have to hold each other back or constantly be attached to prove their closeness.

sorry for ranting in your ask box haha. thanks for being a rational person. vminkook 4 life

Hi anon,

There’s no need to apologize for sending in a “rant” like this because you’re right. I especially loved when you wrote, “for me, the appeal of vmin’s relationship is that they love each other to the extent that they can overlook their differences and put the effort in to understand each other.” That perfectly captures how I see them, too.

I get the sense that some Jikookers harbor a dislike for Taehyung or for the idea of him being close to Jimin or Jungkook largely because of the cult (Tkkrs). It’s no secret that the cult has been relentlessly cruel to Jimin and disrespectful towards Jikook’s bond for years, and as a result, some Jikookers feel justified in mirroring that energy. But in doing so, their judgment becomes clouded, and they miss what’s plainly evident: Jimin and Taehyung genuinely love each other. Of course, some people may truly not see it, simply because they choose to fixate on the moments when they clash, while conveniently ignoring all the times they don’t.

I’ve always tried to observe and interpret the members’ relationships from a place of neutrality… one that isn’t shaped by propaganda or baseless narratives. I make a conscious effort not to project my own assumptions onto them, and I definitely don’t allow other people’s opinions to influence how I truly feel about any of the members.

None of them are “model best friends” … not even Jimin and Jungkook. And that’s entirely natural. They’ve lived together for years, endured countless highs and lows side by side, and inevitably, that kind of closeness will come with moments of friction. It’s human.

What makes Jimin and Taehyung’s bond so meaningful to me isn’t the absence of conflict ….it’s the fact that they do argue, often even, but they always come out of those disagreements with more love and understanding for each other. Their connection is intentional. It may not have always been easy to maintain, but they’ve chosen to nurture it anyway, because they see one another as important. And that, to me, is what makes their bond so incredibly beautiful.

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NGL saw "we love you Taehyung" starting to trend on Twitter and wondered what happened.

But nothing happened. Taekookers are spiraling. Tae solos just happen to also be elevating the trend above "we love you Jungkook" and "we love you taekook"

the elephant in the room here is that everyone expected jikook to go quiet after discharge, maybe do a few lives and post some photos to ig with the underlying assumption here is that they will have plenty of private time with family, friends and also to date or spend time with their presumed significant other.

instead at the first opportunity they went off to travel together for what is now quite a long time.

that’s what tkkers, solos and even some army (the kind that believed jimin is in london) can’t comprehend.

now i’m not saying that going travelling together 5 days after discharge of their joint enlistment means that they’re dating each other or that they’re not dating other people but on some level it is WILD and the scrambling is because once again people’s expectations and fantasies are not being met.

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He's been a little quiet 🤨

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MBC FM4U’s ‘Bae Chul-soo’s Music Camp’

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I wonder if they talked about Namjoon briefly....? Hopefully they discussed a collaboration 🙏

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Fashion needs to come back around to skinny jeans

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Totally husband/father/daddy material

“my mom saw me on TV and told me I looked like a boiled dumpling”

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I'm super okay 🧍‍♀️ *chewing on bricks*

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I'm down bad 😔

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