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ifonlyicouldrun · 3 months
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You know that you can talk to someone and resolve misunderstandings/express diverging opinions without being an asshole, right?
look y’all i’m not really in the byler fandom anymore but please for the love of god can everyone please quit using delusional to describe theories and fandom shit. please i am begging you i don’t understand why it’s so prevalent in this space in particular that is not what it means T-T
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ifonlyicouldrun · 3 months
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The aggressiveness of people on this site is very concerning. It is a real shame as it prevents people from listening to arguments that are sometimes important.
look y’all i’m not really in the byler fandom anymore but please for the love of god can everyone please quit using delusional to describe theories and fandom shit. please i am begging you i don’t understand why it’s so prevalent in this space in particular that is not what it means T-T
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ifonlyicouldrun · 3 months
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"Smalltown Boy" was on Mike’s playlist to foreshadow him dreaming of running away from the local village all along
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ifonlyicouldrun · 3 months
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personally i dont believe its a breakup.
1. el’s hair means they wouldn’t havent broken up since the months it took to grow her hair out, which i find super odd if they havent broken up very shortly after the events of the s4 finale. imo its either they’re relationship is done and over already within the first couple of episodes of s5 or milkman is staying together for oddly too fucking long before byler happens…or milkman is endgame. as a byler truther without byler doubt, i cannot wrap my head around that scene being a breakup scene. it makes no sense.
2. i believe its probably after the timejump and them just having a deep conversation about their relationship in general and how they just wants to be friends and be cool with each other because i have a feeling that mike and el will be distant for a majority of s5 and mike is going to be with will for the majority of s5, so they’ve probably never had a chance to really talk to one another and settle things between them.
remember that shows and movies are not filmed in order
:,)
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ifonlyicouldrun · 4 months
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To all the people who refer to Noah as being solely a “white guy”, i feel like something needs to be clarified.
My mom is of the same ethnicity as Noah’s mother. They are both oriental jews. Maybe a lot of people are not aware of this, but a lot of oriental jewish families lived in North Africa for over 2 thousands years. Which means that they spoke Arabic, shared a lot of cultural similarities with north African muslim people, and sometimes even had Arabic first names, if not hebraic.
Those people are not white, they are not europeans.
Just because somebody is light skin, it does not mean that they are fully of European decent. It does not mean that they are not mixed race. It is way more complicated than that. there are nuances.
I just thought that this was worth mentioning.
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ifonlyicouldrun · 4 months
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just watched david tennant play macbeth at the donmar warehouse
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ifonlyicouldrun · 6 months
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if the message behind mike and will's relationship versus mike and el's was that "friendship is more important than romance" aka the ppl who think will is just going to get over his real, romantic feelings for his friend he's known for a decade, to the ppl who think the duffers who have written every other couple in the show 10x better than m1l3v3n simply because "well they already put mike and el through 4 seasons as a couple they won't break them up", to the ppl who can't see that we've been watching mike and will's love story being FULLY played out since s2 (and I argue s1 as well) to the people who can't fucking see what is right in front of them, you are who the duffers are talking about when they say "I think people are going to surprised, like "how did we not see that?'" when byler happens. you don't choose to make will byers, a character who has suffered since the very beginning, to be in love with his best friend who can't even have a fucking stable relationship with his own "girlfriend" without fucking over their friendship in the process, and proceed to make this CANON in the second to last season of the show and not have it resolved. you don't choose to leave the reveal for the last season. you don't choose for someone to be rejected in the last season when they've spent the entire show pining and hurting. that is literally, quite possibly, the worst storytelling for a character that is beloved by its creators and who has done nothing to deserve such an awful conclusion to his struggling sexuality and feelings.
mike and will's friendship IS important and it is more important than mike and el's relationship, but only because that relationship was never built on any real romantic feelings (because true love at 12 is so common???) it's constantly being mocked and shown to be anything but serious, meanwhile mike and will's relationship is being tested all throughout season 3 and 4 and shown that it will always be top priority for them when it comes down to it. it's just funny to throw in the fact that will is in love with mike while mike is clearly shown to have problems being honest in his relationship el and toxicity between them as a couple overall, unable to keep will close to him when el is near. I just find it all so interesting.
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ifonlyicouldrun · 7 months
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Sometimes I can't believe byler is endgame. Not in "I doubt them" kind of way. More like "they're too good to be true" kind of way.  Like SERIOUSLY! The plot is so neat and well-written. It leaves me speechless every time I think about it.
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ifonlyicouldrun · 7 months
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*pretends to be shocked*@chirpsythismorning
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a gay song was playing in the byler scene (tarzan boy)
literally the same lights (which was done on purpose)
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remember that Mike parallels Jack
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ifonlyicouldrun · 7 months
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The resistance to Byler/insistence that it could never happen low key starts to make sense once you realize how many people consume Stranger Things like it's a lower tier Marvel movie or even a sitcom. Like, so many people do not even seem to realize that there is an actual holistic story being told and watch the show purely for entertainment, fun, vibes, the Steve and Dustin dynamic etc. which is fine obviously but makes it difficult to have a good faith conversation about the direction of the narrative or character arcs. Bc when arguing my case for Byler, I will sometimes ask people what they think El, Mike, and Will's arcs are about and they will act like I'm crazy for even thinking they have arcs lol. I've had people literally respond, "It's not that kind of show," "this is Stranger Things we're talking about" etc. like people genuinely believe it's just surface level horror fun and there's nothing to even be analyzed.
Like, the way some of the most commonly used arguments against Byler basically boil down to, "Mike and El are only having relationship problems for the sake of drama, not to further the plot," and "They wouldn't ruin M*leven after it's been canon for four seasons" literally makes me think some people just don't understand basic storytelling conventions. People treat these characters like they're actual people just living their lives and not heavily thought out characters who are moving from point A to point B as the story progresses. Establishing Mike and El as being romantically involved in season 1 only for them to never change, learn, or grow from that relationship at all is not a story. Having a traumatized queer kid feel like he's a mistake and undeserving of love still believe that by the end is not a story. Having a boy who has struggled to balance the two closest relationships to him for four seasons straight never reflect on the nature of those relationships or allow them to change him is not a story either. Nor is making the girl whose arc revolves around taking agency in her life stay in a codependent relationship by the end a story.
Like, whether people realize it or not, the shifting relationships between Mike, El and Will and how they all affect one another is literally at the heart of the story. It's not just one aspect of the story, like it literally IS the story LMAO. Like, other than Joyce and Hopper, these ARE the three main characters in Stranger Things and the three main character arcs. Like, on what planet do the three main characters of any story never progress or see any change in the dynamics of their relationships? People genuinely expect to watch an ending to Stranger Things that will leave Mike, El and Will right where they began on day 1 and still believe that that kind of ending will be satisfactory.
People just so entirely miss the point. Why would El, whose story has always been about getting to experience life and new relationships for the first time as well as learning to make her own choices in life, end her arc by choosing to stay in a relationship where she is not being loved the way she wants to be loved? Also, what would Mike's arc even be about if M*leven turns out to be engame lmao?? He has always loved and cared deeply about both El and Will but he ends the story... still loving and caring for them the exact same way he always has?? Like, what is the character arc then? His arc can't be about learning to love El as his girlfriend and Will as his best friend because that's where his story literally began lmao. And how can Will's story be about gaining the love and acceptance of his family when it was established in season 1 that he has always had that love and acceptance? How can his arc be about that when the show has gone out of its way to emphasize the fact that Joyce and Jonathan's love for Will knows no bounds and they would quite literally go to the ends of the earth to save him?
It's just hilarious how people talk about Byler like it's a fucking crack ship as if it's not THE resolution to all three of the main characters' arcs and significant to the ending of the story as a whole. Like, the lack of media literacy is actually astounding and I for one cannot wait to pull out my charts and graphs and powerpoint presentations and walk people through the entire narrative progression so they can understand why Byler is literally the only ending that could ever make sense.
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ifonlyicouldrun · 7 months
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books and art, what a life.
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ifonlyicouldrun · 7 months
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"Bylers purposely misinterpret Mike's character arc -"
You're totally right. Bylers need to stop acknowledging Mike's insecurity and self-consciousness, stop trying to explore his trauma, and stop analyzing his odd behaviors toward Will and El. We must embrace the fact that a main character in an award winning show has had the very complex multi-season character arc of "has girlfriend."
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ifonlyicouldrun · 7 months
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Imho, Mike's love confession to El wasn't about romantic love, neither platonic one.
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ifonlyicouldrun · 7 months
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been hearing whispers about an (tender) emotional rain scene 👀
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ifonlyicouldrun · 7 months
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THE WGA AND AMPTP HAVE REACHED A TENTATIVE AGREEMENT WHO CHEERED?
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ifonlyicouldrun · 7 months
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"Sorry to break it to you Babe, but Byler's never happening."
Pretty sure you're confusing Byler endgame with the odds of anyone ever swiping right on your Tinder profile, but okay.
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ifonlyicouldrun · 7 months
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I was scrolling Twitter for the last couple hours, hoping for a possible update from the WGA in regards to negotiations. Luckily we did finally get one, but I still want to share some of favorite WGA tweets before I pass out:
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