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chloe's extremely random voice over intercut into saxon's monologue. seems unnecessary given that it's visually clear she's into lochlan and that saxon basically summarises what she says a second later. except that his summary cannot of course contain the very playful highly problematic seductiveness of her tone. very strange and unnecessary intercut. i wonder what it means. hmmm. who's to say. honestly who's to say.

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patrick PLEASE say more

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I love him 💕

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They really put him through the wringer!! from here

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so funny how saxon transcended horniness and went straight for religious ecstasy because his brother rubbed his hair. like okay. cool! how normal!

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[having a beautiful day at the beach] this sucks i want to be at home in my room watching the saxon flashback kiss gif for 10 minutes straight

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Another fic idea 😩

So Lochy's in college, and he's taking an art class. It's just an elective, though he's still not sure what he wants his major to be. Most of the other students in this class are women. It's a seminar on sketching the nude form. Lochy thinks it's a little salacious, he hopes he doesn't sound too lewd when he asks one of his classmates if they're going to be drawing naked girls every day.

She laughs, not at all suspecting he's anything but gay. "This semester it's a male model, actually." Oh... well that works too, doesn't it? And Lochy blushes slightly, because the prospect of drawing a hot naked man is kind of exciting.

But when Lochy shows up for the first session, who should be situated in the middle of the room, posing and honest to God preening, but Saxon.

Lochy almost runs out of the room right then and there. But Saxon beats him to it, as in, he grabs Lochy by the arm and pulls him outside.

"Did you sign up for this class on purpose?" Saxon hisses, and yeah he didn't put on any underwear so his dick is swinging around and thank God nobody's around to see this.

"What? No! I didn't even- since when do you model?" Lochy can't remember the last time he's been so flustered, hates that Saxon can undo so many months of progress with that stupid big dick just out in the air, those stupid oiled up muscles that Lochy wants to run his hands over, that stupid judgmental face that Lochy wants to kiss.

And it was maybe the wrong idea for Saxon to drag Lochy out with hushed whispering because now all the girls in the class know they know each other. One of them later asks Lochy with a smirk "Is he your boyfriend or something?" and a few of the other girls titter, because isn't the model just so handsome and dreamy? Have you ever seen muscles so rippling and perfect? And his penis... wow! Lochy you're so lucky to be sleeping with a guy like that!

And Lochy doesn't know if he should admit "Worse, he's my brother," or if he should just lie and go with it. Because it would be weird that he hasn't dropped the class, wouldn't it? If everyone knew the model is his brother? It would also be a little hard to explain why he's so good at drawing Saxon's penis, how he can get every detail, every vein, how he just instinctively knows the way it droops... and he doesn't even look at it for more than a few seconds.

It's kind of erotic too... keeping the secret, while he gets to stare at Saxon every day and draw every inch of his gorgeous body. And Saxon struggles not to get hard, knowing Lochy's eyes are raking over him, and his slender fingers are working away at the easel, capturing his form in immortal charcoal.

Do they fuck after class because the tension becomes too much to bare? I don't know, the girls in class seem to think so. The instructor even seems to think so (she has to know they both have the same last name too, so her wry smirks every time Saxon and Lochy leave class walking in the same direction... are a bit revealing. Maybe she's into it, just like Chloe was.

Lochy presents Saxon his final sketch at the end of the semester, as a kind of gift. Saxon blushes. "Is this how you see me?" he asks, afraid to smudge his likeness. Lochy nods, his own blush rising to his cheeks. "You're beautiful," he says dumbly. Saxon can't respond by doing anything but kissing him tenderly.

And no matter what happens next, where they go from here, what woman Saxon marries and has a hollow imitation of a life with, that framed picture of him that Lochy drew is proudly displayed on a mantlepiece or a side table. And everyone who ever sees it is a little perturbed Saxon has a naked portrait of himself, but they always compliment the artistry itself. Saxon just smiles, says someone special made it for him.

Oh did I forget to mention that for all of Saxon's initial accusations it was Saxon who volunteered to model for the class when he found out Lochy was going to take it? In fact, he may have even pulled some strings to get the original guy to suddenly drop out 😶

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Sam Nivola in The White Lotus

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They need a pride flag for this

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I love you forced ingestion. I love you "swallow it all." I love you moments of chanting "do it do it do it" in unison for someone to swallow a pill. I love you sticky white around his mouth. I love you throat flexing, adams apple bobbing. I love you poison and vomit and drowning. I love you physical vulnerability to the point of no return. I love you I love you I love you amen

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currently feeling absolutely deranged by the thought of sax calling loch "baby"

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TWL producer *sweating bullets*: Hi Patrick are you OK?? haha have you read the script for episode 5 and 6 yet??? No, it's no big deal haha it's just that there's a few... weird scenes with the brother hahaha so CALL ME as soon as you're done reading them alright???? DO NOT make any brash decision about the whole thing without talking WITH ME first do you UNDERSTAND?? PATRICK????

Patrick Schwarzenegger: What if there was more incest. What if Saxon showed his whole ass and dick and balls to his little brother on episode one.

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HIS BABY GIRL LAUGH PLEASE

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#don't mind me #just obsessing over saxon touching lochlan when they kiss

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Hey just curious about something, i really liked the brothers arc, but then at the end Saxon tells Lochlan that it’s ok to worship him but not “that” way. Are we not considering that as the end of the chapter from his side? Lochlan might have been interested for whatever reasons like teenage confusion, hero worship, sexual attraction, felt led on by Saxon. But it’s a big no from Saxon is what I felt. And then Saxon also asks to drop it, nail on the head. Saxon seems to keep Lochlan around to boost his ego since no one else admires him and that gets to fucked up levels. Still, that is possible. But there’s no attraction towards Lochlan, as per what Saxon said.

working on my lochlan magnum opus but i'm gonna answer this one real quick-- i have a response here for essentially this question, so you can read that, but i want to add here that saxon's words mean NOTHING.

saxon definitely does cling to lochlan in thailand as an ego boost and a pet project since he isn't allowed to work after their phones get taken-- he's clinging on to his "at-home" personality up to that point, still being strange and inappropriate with his brother in the way i detailed in that ask as well as using lochlan as a captive audience and grabbing his dick while he talks about horny women, but after their phones get taken away saxon turns from that into really, truly working to get lochlan laid. and with that comes a switch where saxon begins being handsy as hell and deeply strange with him:

(setting aside saxon's horrible word choice for now...)

saxon brings lochlan into the adult world ("young. fucking. come." "shut up and drink this. they don't care. it's fine. just take it."), then immediately going back to kids games with "follow the leader," just like he does so many times throughout the show, like tickling piper in their first scene and then talking about her genitals, talking about sex and then doing a funny walk while he tucks his dick between his legs before he smacks piper on the head, saxon is PREOCCUPIED with childish behaviour in adult contexts. i think a large part of his obsession with lochlan and piper's virginity and lochlan's youth in particular is a feeling of reliving his own, whether he regrets the way he lost it/how young he lost it or whether he regrets his choices from 18 to now, following blindly in timothy's footsteps, developing no real personality. his deranged childish/sexual act could be anxiety over getting older. maybe it's a desire to return to youth. maybe it's a fetish because he's seen too many "barely legal" porn shoots.

ANYWAY-- episode 6 is called denials. we open the episode with saxon remembering bits and pieces from the threesome, which you can see detailed here with analysis based on how he reacts to them, notably hitting his breaking point and throwing up when he realizes he got off while locking eyes with lochlan. he's definitely feeling violated, but there's a gradient to his reactions that we can observe-- and when you look at the shots, there's an argument to be made that those shots are following saxon's eyes and saxon's interest, since it's his memories from his point of view.

when saxon goes down to the beach and realizes chloe remembers the threesome, and worse, that chloe is going to drag all of it out in front of chelsea, he's LYING. we, the audience, already know he remembers enough of that night that he can't claim he blacked out completely. he says, "i don't remember that!" well after we see him remember the handjob, and he begins the conversation denying that it counts as a threesome because it was with his little brother.

subconsciously i think he does view lochlan as an extension of himself, which contributes to him being so floored that lochlan would reach out and touch him, but... that was a threesome. saxon made out with chloe (at least twice) after spending a whole night working to get her to fuck his brother. saxon stayed in the bedroom, took his shorts off at some point between lochlan kissing chloe and lochlan fucking chloe, and just kind of hung out watching his brother lose his virginity.

that conversation goes on, saxon trying out all the denials he rehearsed in his head all day, everything he's got to justify what happened, and the girls shoot down EVERYTHING until saxon has to leave before he starts crying. every single sentence saxon has said this entire conversation is a LIE, that he KNOWS IS A LIE, and then the conversation ends with him denying that hooking up with his brother/desiring his brother is "a thing, it's definitely not a thing!"

in the context of this whole discussion, where nothing saxon says is truthful, we know this is a lie.

title this "i don't think there's a drug in the world that could make me get with my brother." and put that bitch in the louvre!

all this to say that the gap between the truth vs. what saxon says is a canyon full of boundary-pushing sexual behaviour and teacher/student porn. you're correct that it IS a big no from saxon, but not necessarily because of a lack of desire. his identity is crumbling around him and he needs to cling to the pillars of his false personality, one of which is accepting lochlan's worship, now with a shiny new "NO-TOUCHING" sign added. unfortunately for him, that twink has had it!!!

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I just gotta say. Being a gross pervert is great and I feel bad for the people who don’t let themselves experience it.