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Glad to know that you ship georgia and joe! I was wondering why it took them so long to be together? especially georgia? At first, I thought it was unrequited and then there are times when we saw she in fact clearly feels something for him but why ignore it and hurt Joe at the same time?
thanks for the ask! i love these crazy kids and their ridiculous chemistry
as for why it took them so long to be together -- though they're not officially 'together' even by the end of s3, they've just Acknowledged that they want to be -- i think there's a handful of factors there
the first is their past; by about halfway through the first season, they already know who the other is and both have refused to acknowledge to the other that they know who they are. this could be in part to not look stupid/desperate (depending) if the other turns out to not remember/not hold it in as High Esteem as they do. this sort of self-protection from georgia specifically(protection for her feelings, not from others or for her kids) is a rarity, and we really only see it associated with Joe, which illustrates the depth of their connection and how seriously she takes it
the second is timing, pure and simple. with zion and paul in S1 (joe's aborted confession speaks to this), paul (not to mention cynthia) in S2 (quoth georgia, "i'm gettin married"), and the everything in s3, it's not like either one has had a ton of time to sit down and hash out a relationship. it's not til more than half of the way through S2 (in one of my favorite and the best joe/georgia scenes) that both acknowledge who the other is and that they're a Romantic Figure (or have been a Romantic Possibility) to the other.
the third and most interesting (for me, anyway) factor is georgia herself. when christmas blows up and she runs to joe (which is an INSANE thing to do, and he rightly brings it up in their discussion in S2) it's the most...line crossing? i'll say? thing she does in their relationship. it's the first time we actually get a sense of just how deep this runs for georgia because the woman who relies always on herself and rarely on ginny instead goes and seeks him out (the delivery from his actor of "you seek me out" lives rent free my gosh); while she says she just happened to see him as she drove by, it's p clear that that's georgia-code for "i was hoping you were here".
his cafe is a place of Safety for her -- notably it's the one place we see her slap gil's hand away without fearing repercussion, and where she actually connects a bit with her half-sister, and where there's always a drink and a listening ear for her. her bridal shower is there for heaven's sake. it's explicitly text.
but right. back to what i mean it's georgia herself preventing them from being together. in that christmas discussion when she "drops by", she asks him why he's there and not with family; he responds that his parents are in california and he'll see them and his sister at NYE. so far, so (mostly) normal, but then georgia says something that honestly took my breath away:
"i don't know much about you"
and i went HOLY EFF WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING IT
(his "no, you don't" knocked me flat too. the layers to that man i swear)
because georgia, like all cons, thrives on information. the more she knows, the safer she is. add to that her constant craving for connection that causes her to get to know people and to ask them questions and learn about them, and you have a woman who likes to know things, and goes out of her way to do so. joe's from the town, she could have asked anyone about his family. she could have asked him -- he's Safe to her, so there's no danger there. it could have come up while her half-sister was in town. joe volunteers the information freely, so it's not like he's hiding it.
and so the reason georgia doesn't know is because georgia's breaking her rules and pattern with him. she's actively trying not to know about him. she does it so well that the average viewer forgets that we know Little about him as well. that we don't even get his surname until season 3 at the town hall meeting thing. not because she doesn't like or trust or want to know about joe, quite the opposite -- he's an 'indulgence' that she's just not allowing herself to have fully. Passing conversations, winks, food and wine and having her daughter work there -- she spends her time, for lack of a better word, microdosing on him, allowing herself a little but never enough to Formally Get Attached. she doesn't want to hurt him -- especially during the trial she takes Careful Steps to make sure he doesn't get hurt. but she doesn't also want to be without him
it doesn't work, of course. she needs him anyway. to once again mention joe's words, she seeks him out, especially by mid S2, because the small doses she's let herself have pre-Christmas just aren't enough anymore. even when he's angry with her at lawnfest, even when she feels jealous and a bit betrayed knowing he slept with cynthia (S2 was a joe/georgia feast, even with how few scenes they actually had Together), she keeps finding reasons to push them together, because at that point with all the Glitz and Glamour (such as it was) of her life swept away, joe is left standing where no one else is -- he chooses to be left standing -- but she goes to him again and again not because there's no one else, but because's he's the one she's been drawn to for 3 season and 15+ years.
she tries to keep herself away from him because she wants to be around him, because she wants to have him around her constantly. because the 'joke' is that they were always gonna be together, they were always gonna end up together, well before him punching gil and bringing food and her bolstering his business repeatedly and coming to him at christmas. before even making him cater the sophomore sleepover.
all the way back to a half a sandwich and a pair of sunglasses.
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the level of crazy you have to be to meet a cute boy at a rest stop when you’re fifteen who gives you a pair of sunglasses and a glimpse of a kinder happier life so you keep those sunglasses for the next fifteen years and then after you murder your husband you move yourself and your two kids to his hometown (which you still remember) and start to haunt the farm to table coffee shop he owns AND THEN you seduce the mayor of that hometown right in front of him georgia miller you’ll always be famous to me
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Honestly, it was always going to be Joe.
From the moment they met at 15, he gave Georgia something she’d never had kindness without expectations. She was lost, scared, alone… and he simply saw her. Not as a problem to fix, not as someone to use, but as a person. That moment stayed with her, quietly, like a light she carried in the dark.
Because Georgia has spent her whole life surviving performing, seducing, controlling. Love, for her, was a transaction, never safety. She became a master of illusion, pretending to be perfect so no one could see the chaos underneath. But with Joe, the game never worked. She didn’t want it to.
Joe sees through it all. And still he stays.
He doesn’t fear the mess. He doesn’t flinch at the truth. He accepts every part of her: the broken, the fierce, the soft she hides from the world. With him, she doesn’t have to be anyone else. She can be honest. She can be real. She can breathe.
And for someone who’s spent her whole life surviving, that kind of safety being fully seen and still loved was all she ever wanted.
It’s everything. It’s peace. It’s home.
With Joe, she’s finally found it.
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I can’t even explain how happy I was seeing Joe and Georgia finally honour their feelings towards each other.
It was nice to see that Joe get that confirmation that Georgia’s line last season “there’s nothing that I don’t think of” be something tangible. Physical. A confession that what Ginny has with Marcus—“that safety” she has it with Joe. I’m so glad Georgia didn’t hide by that femme fatale persona that she shows with everyone. That kindness that Georgia was thinking about 15 years ago in a rest stop in Massachusetts is the same kindness that she is resting in, when everyone has shown their face.
I’m so glad that Georgia saw the depth of Joe’s investment. It is easy to say that you’ll be there but he was. That even when everyone had left and betrayed her, he was there. Offering to give her an alibi even if it meant he could have motive. Visiting her at the lowest and feeding her. Softly holding her to accountability when she was about to leave Ginny and Austin.
Ugh the writers didn’t let me down!!!!
Now all I need and want is married Joe and Georgia (a girl can dream). Or if not, baby dad Joe 🥺😍
#ginny x georgia#ginny and georgia spoilers#joe singh#georgia miller#georgia randolph#joegeorgia#joe x georgia#georgia x joe
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Two years and a bit later and I have renewed my subscription as a Joergia stan. Joe and Georgia Miller make so much sense, and I AM getting my endgame.
Netflix, please please renew.
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JUSTIN EDWARDS & KEISHA CLARK Forever ~ Season 1
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Please watch this show guys. I keep hearing all of these pleas for coming of age love stories with fully Black (not biracial or lightskinned) girls as the stars. Here it is. I know it's not 100 percent perfect, I'd love for an actual Black coming of age novel to be adapted, but we can't keep letting perfect be the enemy of good here. The more we support this type of project the more of it we're gonna get. Money talks louder than keystrokes.
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Five day until we meet Jeisha (Justin x Keisha)
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to love me better, than all the others do
FOREVER (2025) | S1 E3 Fourth Quarter
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"And I love you. And I'm sorry... I thought I saw you today."
FOREVER 1.05 'The Vineyard'
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