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On Sansa being “radiant”

The delusionistas:

Grrm himself:

Catelyn having a crush on Lysa confirmed 🤔

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Jonsa metas be like: Extended Cut

The miniature rant version

Yeah. We’re getting tons of romantic content in that corner. Totes. What else is the purpose of Jon Snow’s resurrection? Or rather, what even is the other purpose for Jon Snow’s existence, if not a prop to make their innocent-compassionate-empathetic af precious birb a Princess/Queen/GodEmpress?

(if they could have their way she’d be ascended to Godhood at this rate)

69? That's your foreshadowing? You wanna convince people your ship's canon based on a mfing position number? What are we, middle schoolers?!

My remaining two braincells cannot handle this poetic parallel😔😩✊🏻

Ok real talk folks.....what’s in that kool aid kid?

Listen, after pulling crap like this, you all have no rights to defend yourselves when we rightfully call you out on this. Absolutely none. No amount of mental gymnastics can justify this.

Presenting to you 🥁🥁🥁 Quotes by Jon comparing his first love to his sister🥁🥁🥁:

“She reminded him a little of his sister Arya, though Arya was younger and probably skinnier. It was hard to tell how plump or thin Ygritte might be, with all the furs and skins she wore.”

“"If you kill a man, and never meant', he's just as dead," Ygritte said stubbornly. Jon had never met anyone so stubborn, except maybe for his little sister Arya. Is she still my sister? he wondered. Was she ever?”

...... soz there ain’t any about Sansa. I checked in the back and all I promise.

And, hate to break it to ya but, remember Catelyn of Houses Tully and Stark? Yeah, she kinda, y’know, carried the zygote that grew into a fetus over a period of nine months and pushed the said fetus out whom they named Arya. Half of her mother, half a Tully. Thus, half a fish. Pretty sure there’s even a fish reference that jon made towards Arya regarding her swimming.

............So?

Let's give this a serious consideration. Firstly, lemme get this lil point out in the open: foreshadowing is wildly different from coincidences. Coincidence is there being a Jon(nel) and a Sansa in the same time period in the family, just like the current generation. Parallel/foreshadowing would look something like this:- Jon, who's the half brother of Rickon, just like Jonnel was to Cregan's heir Rickon, would marry the older daughter of Rickon (my son my boyyyy <3<3<3) in a distant future. Capisce?

And finally, the icing on the cake. My personal favourite 🙂

Look, it's bad enough that the writer decided to pepper in cursed bits throughout the books that make an incestuous pairing highly likely. (by incest i mean the emotional aspect of it, it's not the cousincest or the aunt-nephew bit that peeves me off. It was a common occurrence in the medieval feudalistic society and is still prevalent in today's day and age). At the end of the day, they grew up as siblings. Fighting over which sister gets the “prize” that's Jon Snow is ridiculous beyond measure. We didn't start off reading these humongous books thinking "oh this would be a splendid time to ship an incest otp uwu" like no. the only reason I didn't break into tears every time Jon had a very non fraternal thought while reading is because i knew by then, for sure that they're cousins and not siblings (y'all either never had siblings or think fictional siblings work on a different wavelength). Take it up with the author, demand why he chose this sister and not the other for his fOrbiDdEn rOmancE trope. Grab him by shoulders and shake an answer out of him. None of us asked for this ffs. We reached to a conclusion based on what's there in print, not what isn't and simply assuming that there are hidden meanings or that the narrator is so fucking unreliable that he's naming one and thinking of the other or something equally delusional. Dude's literal last thought was Stick them with a pointy end. Which, by the way, is strictly between Jon and Arya, just like Needle. Just like the quote "Different roads sometimes lead to the same castle". And "What do you know of my heart, priestess? What do you know of my sister?" They're all exclusive to them both and them both only.

To all of these asoiaf experts, I'd like to say one thing: For all of his flaws and fallacies, G.R.R.Martin is a brilliant writer. He's not some stupid Oracle of Delphi, sitting in his little ancient greek cave and spewing nonsense and talking in circles. Writers leave out clues in the open, not hide them under the guise of different fucking names for gods sakes.

I'm all for shipping whoever you wanna ship, gods know i have a never ending list- most of them being rarepairs or crackships. But I don't go around twisting canon into something it isn't and subject to mental gymnastics to the point where nothing makes sense anymore. And, read the bloody books before you firmly place your faith in something. Quora/Reddit/Tumblr metas shouldn't be the basis for it. The language is pretty straightforward- if I, a non native english speaker can get it, then so can you.

Cheers.

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jonsa foreshadowing of the day: they enjoy breathing

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Can anyone explain the thought process behind this one? It is getting more and more nonsensical with each take.

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Jonsa theories be like: "My high school teacher was named John, and he was married to Sandra from Queens: clearly, this foreshadows Jonsa happening and Sansa being the Queen in the North."

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the way this is actually literally the opposite since everybody and their grandma knows that jonsas blogs 70% consist of jonerys/jonrya/sansan hate fueled by the fact that the first one is show canon and the other two are book based and have massive support by the author. I suppose it really sucks to like a crackship and not be able to support it with any evidence so now you have to agonise on tumblr dot com

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You know what else is so funny about the stansas is how they use the 'radiant' argument as proof that Jon liked Sansa when it's the lamest description compared to how Jon describes Ygritte or Val lmao

And even then Catelyn uses "radiant" to describe Lysa on her wedding day, so in-universe it doesn't have any romantic implication like they love to pretend it does. That's why there are posts of them pulling up "evidence" from Twilight, an entirely different book with a different author, to prove their point. Jon barely even thinks about her and they know that, which is why they have to steal quotes about him thinking of Arya/Ygritte/Val and pretend they're about her lol

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Jonsa shippers using the SanSan story set up for Jonsa:

Book readers:

Just replacing Arya with Sansa in entire stories, themes, narrative arcs and relationships and thinking that works...

Jonsa shippers using Jonrya and Jonerys setup and foreshadowing.

Book readers:

Book Readers:

'Arya is too ugly' to be loved by Jon Snow.

Book readers:

Jonsa shippers when book readers add context they think people might want to know:

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yes and we LOVE that for her like girl is obsessed with him still despite everything, while do you know a single character she does NOT think about except maybe once? yeah lmao

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You know what else is so funny about the stansas is how they use the 'radiant' argument as proof that Jon liked Sansa when it's the lamest description compared to how Jon describes Ygritte or Val lmao

And even then Catelyn uses "radiant" to describe Lysa on her wedding day, so in-universe it doesn't have any romantic implication like they love to pretend it does. That's why there are posts of them pulling up "evidence" from Twilight, an entirely different book with a different author, to prove their point. Jon barely even thinks about her and they know that, which is why they have to steal quotes about him thinking of Arya/Ygritte/Val and pretend they're about her lol

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Today I’m here to talk about why the UnKiss, the climactic SanSan moment, is actually about Jonsa, Because Sandor is wearing a white cloak and white=snow (there are no other white objects in Westeros). Even if we grant the stained by blood and fire cloak points to a Targaryen love interest for Sansa, I don’t see why Dany can’t get the girl??? Is Jon the only Targaryen available on two continents?? Does Aegon VI not exist?

Jesus lord but the cries of “POV trap” and “unreliable narrator” drive me up the w a l l, if you are only going to look at the evidence that points to pro-Jonsa and dismiss all other evidence, secure in your confirmation bias, then what’s the point?

Oh. OH. I see. All the other characters Jon and Sansa interact with are merely BLANK SLATES, placeholders awaiting the advent of their true romantic interest. This is probably the most inadvertently revealing meta I have ever read. It says the quiet part out loud–that no one else matters, that all the other characters in this fucking series are just instrumental to Jon and Sansa getting together.

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and is this "jonsa foreshadowing" in the room with us right now?

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