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If Anthy ever did successfully grow weed as in the one jokepost whats the overunder on "time until a scaredweed brownie is in Nanami's hand". Whats the TTK.

negative 5 minutes, she would find the brownie before anthy ever even started growing it

the episode would open up on nanami finding a brownie left on her bedside table. she would go "oh that's so thoughtful of my brother!" and eat it and would immediately start getting scared. she'd go out and ask touga what was up and he'd say "that's normal womanly emotions, stop being such a woman" so she'd assume she was weird for not having been constantly scary high her entire life. she would chat with miki and juri at different points. juri would recognize she was high and give some recommendations nanami would completely misunderstand, miki would just think she had a cold and would freak her out even more. around the halfway mark utena would ask anthy what the new plant she was growing was and anthy would say "grass" as she watered the lawn and utena would go "no i meant... never mind" as nanami walked up to them. anthy would start winding nanami up even more than usual and utena would assume she was planning something. by the end she would have started to blame the brownie but for some completely erroneous reason and would say utena definitely planted the brownie before saionji said something that made her think he was responsible. the episode would end with anthy offering freshly baked brownies to the whole student council and smiling, saionji would be the first to bite and would immediately go fucking nuts

is this pretty much just "nanamis egg but with her getting high"? yeah, but i stand by it

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talking about shoujo manga like nah man the power scaling is waaaaaaaay off. the s tier girls in oniisama e could barely get off the ground in rose of versiallies. and they're not even in kimi ni todoke sawako's solar system

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Ikuhara and Saito on shoujo and how it informed RGU, from episode 38 commentary

KI: The thing is when I was making it, the thing that bothered me most was, when you make something like this, the most well-known anime that’re similar to this is, in Japan, Mr. Osamu Tezuka’s Ribon no Kishi [Princess Knight] and Rose of Versailles. I think these two are the ones that come to mind. They both have a girl dressing as a boy and using swords. I figured I wouldn’t be able to avoid it being said that it was taken from Ribon no Kishi or Rose of Versailles. What was bothering me the most at the time was it being called a parody. I had this immense fear about that. I kept thinking that it mustn’t be called a parody. 

The thing was, the more I kept thinking about it and the more I kept concentrating on the story, the more it ended up being like a parody. How do I explain this… for example, in Rose of Versailles, they used the French Revolution that actually happened as a factor. It’s not about whether or not we used a factor from reality in Utena. It’s that in a genre like shoujo manga… in Japan there’s a manga genre known as shoujo manga. I don’t know if Americans would know, but shoujo manga is a story where a girl is the main character. How do I explain this part… when you make something where the plot is about a girl that fights like a boy and with a sword, in Japan everyone would say, “It’s like Rose of Versailles.” Or “It’s like Ribon no Kishi.” There’s no doubt that’s what they’d say. 

I was really struggling with that. I kept thinking that I have to make it so no one would be able to call it a parody, but I got a lot of requests from the people around me. “Why don’t you make it more like Rose of Versailles?” or “Why don’t you make it more like Ribon no Kishi?” I was told that numerous times. I had to keep telling them, “No, I don’t want to do that.” A lot of people around me never understood that. They’d just say there are other storylines I could do. It doesn’t have to be like Rose of Versailles. Just make it more normal, is what they said. But in my mind if I made this anime a normal anime, it’d become a parody. I had this enormous negative reaction to it being a parody. I’m often told that there are a lot of parts where expressionism is used. I think the reason why it ended up being like that is because I strongly felt that I wanted to avoid it being called a parody. CS [during the planetarium discussion between Utena and Akio]: But the visuals totally look like a parody to me… KI (laughing): Yes, the visuals are a parody. I figured there’s no way around that. CS: So on the surface it’s supposed to look like a parody. The visuals may remind you of something like Rose of Versailles, but what you actually intended was that if you paid attention, you’d realize it’s nothing like it, right? KI: It’s not that I was intending it. In the beginning I was trying to avoid it. I was trying to avoid the visuals looking like parody too. I told Ms. Saito this and she talked about this earlier, but I told her not to give it a sci-fi look. “Don’t make it look like it’s sci-fi,” and “don’t make it look like a fantasy genre.” The reason why I kept badgering her about that is because… how do I say this?… I think it’s because I realized you can’t draw something you’ve never seen before. How do I explain this? Something you’ve never seen is… what do you call it? Hmm, I don’t know how to explain this. CS: Are you saying, in your mind? KI: In my mind… CS: Because there’re a lot of authors and manga artists who write fantasy and science fiction all the time, even in the anime industry. KI: Yes, there are. CS: So are you saying it was different for you? KI: For me it was different. CS: Was creating an entirely fictitious world kind of… KI: It’s not that. In the beginning I was planning to do it all in a fictitious world. CS: Yes! that was the initial concept. KI: Was it? – CS: It was when you first explained it. KI: Right, right, right. But as I was doing it, I realized it wasn’t the same as what I envisioned, so… CS (seriously): You wanted to make it yours, didn’t you? The anime, I mean… KI: No, not exactly… that’s not exactly what it was… CS: I had the impression that you were forcibly trying to make Utena your own while you were making it. (laughs) KI: Well, yeah, that’s true – no, that’s not what it was! I’m fluffing this up a bit, but I wanted to make it into an anime that rounded up all the shoujo manga into one [“soukatsu shite”]. Can you translate “soukatsu” into English? INTERVIEWER: Collecting it all into one? KI: Yes, like it was all included. And then… how do I explain this? CS: So you… go ahead. KI: A shoujo manga is a story where a girl is the main character. I wanted to define the meaning of shoujo manga. Do you understand? Can you translate that into English? (laughs) CS: You wanted to define a girl’s dreams and admiration and such? KI [over various black-on-red scenes of Anthy and swords]: I wanted to round up all the animated stories made with girls as the main characters up till then into one story. Meaning, make it a story where all those themes were included. I wanted to express everything that they were trying to express in all those shoujo manga and animations that had a girl as the main character, in this one story. That was the type of anime I was trying to make. I had this radical turning point inside my head. Now that the channels had turned in my head, I thought that I could allow the visuals to be parodies. Or rather, the visuals must be parodies. If this was going to be a round-up of everything up until now, the visuals should be parodies. That’s why it suddenly went the Rose of Versailles sort of route. CS: I see. KI: Up until that point I had a huge adverse reaction towards Rose of Versailles. I was absolutely against that idea. The reason why is because at the time… how do I say this… I was thinking of doing a story that was more sci-fi or fantasy, but that didn’t sit with me too well. As I was doing it I realized what I actually wanted was to do a project where I could compile the shoujo manga or animations with a girl as a main character into one. What they’re trying to express in animations where a girl is the main character is, and this is my personal opinion, I’m not just talking about Ribon no Kishi and Rose of Versailles – there are tons of other animations where a girl is the main character – how do I say this? – the core of the basic theme is generally self-revelation. CS: (Surprised, agreeing noise.) KI: A story where a girl is the main character is about self-revelation. By putting the theme of self-revelation at the core and by wondering why you have to have this self-revelation… how do I say this… I think the meaning of your relationship to the world is always made apparent, per se? CS: (Surprised, agreeing noise.) KI: They express that indirectly, by using “love,” for example, as a theme. In this series, love I guess also plays a big part, but, how do I say this, I thought I should express that in a more grandiose scale. No, rather, that’s what I wanted to do. CS: I see. I never knew there was such a significant meaning behind it. KI: Why, yes, it’s a significant piece. I started to – CS: I had no idea you meant to compile all of shoujo culture when you made this. KI: I didn’t know that at the start either! (laughter) While in the making I was like, “That’s it! I got it!” At this point in the story it’s obvious I had complete certainty. CS: Definitely. INTERVIEWER: At what point were you like, “I got it!”? KI: That was… I thought that was when the first film was done. I had no idea during the planning stage. I started to think that when we were making it, which was around the time the film was almost finished. The thing is, it took a while until the first film was made. It took almost a year from planning to until the first film was made. We kept bickering and arguing during that time, but when the first film was made – I’m referring to when the film for the first episode was made – I thought, this is it. CS: There’re a lot of people who don’t like Utena, and… KI: Bold people like that exist? (laughter) CS: And I think the reason why they don’t like it is because – KI: There’s not a lot! It’s only a few! There are only a few people who are like that! CS: – I think it’s that they’re immersed in the Japanese shoujo culture. But in Utena there’s this feeling of rejecting that. I think by watching this anime they can sense Mr. Ikuhara’s intentions that he wanted to compile all of that. KI: That’s exactly it. CS: I think their dislike comes from them not wanting it to be summed up into one. KI: I’m sure that’s true. CS: “This is what we like! Don’t burst our bubble! Don’t try to sum it up like that!” is maybe how they’re feeling. KI: Yes, exactly. There are parts in this anime where nuances like that are expressed. CS: Yes, and there’s also this message saying, “That’s not a place where you should be putting yourself, so hurry up and have a self-revelation and get the hell out of there!” at the end. (laughter) So some girls were like, “It’s none of your business!” Remember they used to have this adverse reaction to it? There were quite a few of them! People who do accept it… hm… I wonder! There are a lot of anime fans, of course, and devout fans who really liked this anime, but I think if normal people watched this they’d have a better understanding of it.

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REVOLUTIONARY GIRL UTENA ↳ EPISODE 23 / EPISODE 29 / EPISODE 39

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Ohtori Academy

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Thinking about them… Rei/Nanako

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The classic (thinking about them every day)

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more of my personal dad juri bit because. it’s just so funny.

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well he's watching rose of versailles now. im agog but also realizing that the berubara experience is very different when you come at it from the angle of "this work inspired a lot of my favorite shounen" as opposed to "this work inspired a lot of my favorite shoujo"

explaining the experience of watching utena the first time vs watching it the five millionth time and how each rewatch builds and you understand more and more and find new things to focus on but you still take away the main theme every single time to my shounen pilled brother only for him to nod sagely and go "that happened to me with ping pong the animation"

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chu chu sitting on utena's head compilation

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nana is fr one of my fave manga of all time and has been for a decade but i only blog abt it on my main cause it was so central to my personality when i was 16

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nana // oniisama e…

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explaining the experience of watching utena the first time vs watching it the five millionth time and how each rewatch builds and you understand more and more and find new things to focus on but you still take away the main theme every single time to my shounen pilled brother only for him to nod sagely and go "that happened to me with ping pong the animation"

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