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felt like drawing him idk

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hey there I just wanted to tell you that I really like your analyses and you have really good taste in characters. you are one of 32 people I know that acknowledge the hype around ojima, and are one of the 4590 people that acknowledge the hype around mikoto, so ty for being extremely awesome and cool

Aww thank you! I’m basically the spokesperson for Ojima analysis at this point as he goes quite under the radar in terms of character popularity in tetro even though there’s soooo much to think about him and everyone should appreciate this little specimen more often.

And pffft causal Mikoto slander there but I mainly talk about him in context of John because he’s also just a guy.

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kinda hilarious how you've spent all game constantly convinced that Ojima would die and yet he's still here. love that for you

Oh my god

Chapter 2 I was so god damn convinced he was gonna die I was so angsty over it I was sobbing I wrote that whole eulogy I was tweaking out in the live chat only for it to not be him. Then I’m convinced he’s gonna die in chapter 3, and then VERY convinced he’d die in chapter 4. Then either him or Hiroaki as the chapter 5 victim… at this point it’s legitimately hilarious to look back at my suffering and Ojima’s made it to the final class trial despite everything I’ve ever believed.

But.

BUT.

I still think he’s gonna die. He WILL die this Friday and I am SO DEPRESSED about that. It’s not really because I think he’s the killer yes by process of elimination he’s kinda sus but I feel that method is too easy in this case, especially a chapter 5 trial. But what I’m sold on is that it’s very likely from how we’ve got basically zero evidence and the whole lily symbolism is that the killer will win this one and be set free while all the other innocent students will be executed which means all of my screaming would’ve been for nothing as basically everyone was gonna die anyway.

So I will say this and probably for the final time. It’s so ojimover. Like actually for real 100% guaranteed. He made it so close, yet so far. Only to be executed at the final trial along with all the other innocents, and likely alongside Hiroaki. There’s no hope or happiness in tetro. These students were doomed as soon as they woke up here. Every time I think about Ojima dying I always think back to [Open Sky] and how he talked about how he was probably going to die in here anyway, like he’s already accepted it at this point. It’s sad to see how he thinks that, basically accepting his own fate within the school. Although in a weird way sometimes it makes me feel a bit better about the inevitability of his death. He’s only 17, he should’ve had a whole life in front of him and was so, so close to surviving the killing game. Only it’s going to end in him being executed, left to rot and be forgotten along with everyone else. God it’s so sad to think about… I’ve really loved Ojima as a character probably more than most of my other favourites so this trial is going to leave me in tears for god knows how long. You’ve had a good run Ojima

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So it looks like you got one more bda to make and then the collection will be complete...

Sorry if this is a bad time.

Yep… at least it’s not as gruesome as Kamimura’s or Watari’s so that’d be a bit easier on me in that regard lol but since it’s the final BDA I really wanna go all out on this one. (And I’m happy I’ll be able to draw Ojima in a bda scene yayyy- and I like drawing underwater effects too)

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i NEED to hear your thoughts on loyalty game because holy shit i am not the same person i was 40 minutes ago

Might’ve taken a little too long to answer this but damn it was something. Truly it was a really cool way to end off the daily life and causing fights so bad that Hiroaki ended up breaking Tamba’s leg. I was thinking that since defence game was kinda similar to decision game and cage game was similar to salvation game that loyalty game would be a parallel to confession game. And I was thinking it’d probably be a thing where a student was tasked to reveal a secret or endure a punishment which funnily enough I was right on.

And this being the final game is so interesting as well. Confession game was the very beginning of it all, take these 16 students who’ve just started getting used to each other and reveal their most disturbing secrets in a twisted game show style. It was perfect for sewing conflict that would last for the rest of the game. And the way loyalty game parallels that by lots of the secrets being stuff that the students have already experienced within the game but want to keep secret makes up for the whole thing of these people know each other very well so it’d be harder to share secrets like in confession game. And as well both the secrets and the punishments being crafted to get the 7 students to turn on each other despite how long they’ve known each other at this point was really interesting. It gave us more important and specific info on characters that we wouldn���t have learnt anyway, like the thing of Hiroaki leaving his friend to die was really messed up and intriguing. And as well with how extreme the punishments were and Hayashi being willing to take all of them was just so hard to watch. It’s probably gonna be up there as one of my favourite tetro episodes.

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Would you animate executions?

Unfortunately probably not. Something as complex as the executions are way out of my skill level and I probably couldn’t do that. Mayyyyyybe one day I’ll think of it but it’ll be very hard.

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>Please disregard this question if it's a bit too heavy, or if it will be explored further in canon.<

>But how did Ojima come to terms with his sexuality as a teenager/young adult following the abuse he faced as a kid? I'd imagine that there would be a lot of doubt in his mind; is he gay because of what happened to him, or did those things happen to him because he was gay?<

>Neither of these are rational explanations for his feelings, but trauma affects everybody differently, especially something as horrible as what Ojima went through.<

his own sexuality isnt actually something ojima has thought about too deeply, its just not a massive priority for him

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Reminder

The end is nigh.

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My piece for Ojima as part of the tetro pink finale graduation collab! His ass looks too elegant he is NOT surviving this killing game 😭😭😭

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guys i love hirojima they will 100% survive trust

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Kinda losing my mind rn over how likely from what it seems we’re gonna get a blackened win and only one student survives the killing game instead of five. Like I really think it’s gonna happen especially as they have basically no evidence and the whole symbolism this chapter with all the flowers in the greenhouse dying apart from one surviving lily which monomoko let leave the school. If that’s not screaming that this will be an only one survivor game I don’t know why else that’d be there, it feels inevitable. To be fair if this killer is the same person that was writing the notes and stuff perhaps the students can use all the stuff that’s happened before to find the culprit even if they have no evidence to the murder itself, but I feel like that’d be super hard.

I just can’t stop thinking about this and I’m really sad how no matter how much we screamed about our favourites dying in the end almost all of them were to die anyway and their fates were sealed from the beginning. Like god, thinking of how close these kids were to escaping as a group of the remnants of the 16. Keeping each other company and building off of their experiences with each other in the killing game to try and move forward in their lives from what they’ve learnt. Only for it to mean nothing in the end as they die in the school with a sole survivor left to escape. It’s such a depressing idea but the lily symbolism makes me think it’s inevitable. And perhaps this is what the 5 chapters meant. Tetro is already very experienced in completely crushing our hopes so having a bleak ending like this would be very fitting, yet I dread it.

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I think it’s interesting how von said that Ojima’s favourite animal is the tapir because I’m thinking of the resemblance to in Japanese mythology the yokai Baku which resembles a tapir who are said to devour dreams, specifically bad ones. And especially Baku being some sort of guardian spirit who are called on to eat nightmares and stuff. I feel like Ojima’s favourite animal being the tapir and the association with the Baku is a really neat idea as with Ojima’s own association with dreams. And with his PTSD nightmares and night terrors would be common for him.

Tapirs are also like weird silly guys and Ojima is a weird silly guy so it checks out

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I HAVEN'T WATCHED ALL OF TODAY'S EPISODES SO I MIGHT BE PROVEN WRONG BUT I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT I'M MAJORLY SUS OF WADA

Wada's punishment from Loyalty Game was that he wasn't allowed to enter the basement level until the next killing happens. He and Ojima were the ones to discover Hayashi's body floating in the pool, WHICH IS IN THE BASEMENT.

Why would Wada be allowed to go down there?? Yes, the killing had already happened, but HE shouldn't have known that. The only reason why he would have gone down there is if he already knew that Mai was dead and so there was no risk of further punishment for breaking the rules.

If Wada was under the impression he wasn't allowed down there, he would have - SHOULD HAVE - remained upstairs.

Istg if Wada killed Mai I'm gonna McFucking LOSE IT

dude GO WATCH THE EPISODES!!

also...yeah. i'm ngl. he is kinda sus. first point, as you said, him not questioning how he was able to go to the basement without being punished. that's really weird, but. this one could be explained by wada (and ojima) just having a dumdum moment. he's been starving for 6 days, he's definitely not at his best cognitively. he could have just forgotten. i know it's a very flimsy explanation but it's not that unlikely.

the second sus point is like... him going in and out of the arsenal. especially that he wasn't carrying anything in or out?? this one got me like 🤨...okay...? why the fuck would he be there then...that's definitely sus. HOWEVER...

him potentially being mai's killer. i just got one question...how? there's no way. either he was holding a knife and mai stabbed herself on it and then jumped off the pool balcony and fell into the pool, or it's not possible. at least, i really don't think so. if it was anyone but mai, maybe, but she has like at least 60kg on him, she could literally snap him in half. buut...the murder might have been some sort of agreement between mai and the killer, so they didn't necessarily have to get a drop on her (if it fr was self-sacrifice i will cry). still, i really don't think it's wada in any capacity.

another argument against it being him: for weeks now, the main justification behind him not being the trapper was that he's incredibly weak right now due to starvation. the trapper and the killer definitely are the same person, and if he can't be the trapper, he can't be the killer. he was feeling very weak during the investigation, tamba remarked that he looked pale, and he sounded like he was on the verge of passing out a few times. it was difficult for him to even roll mai's body over. he did pass out when they discovered her body too! i really can't see him faking that. the bomb traps wouldn't be that difficult to set up, but the other traps disqualify him. he's just physically not strong enough to even carry a bucket of gasoline around.

more arguments against: his reward. why would he be so excited to show tamba his security cameras reward if he was the culprit? we know he didn't mess with the footage beforehand, because tamba was there to see him having to download it. but even if he didn't have to download and could edit it, it still wouldn't make sense, if he missed even one thing he would have been caught instantly. the best and the easiest course of action is just to not say anything about the cameras in the first place.

i think that's all i have for now. him forgetting about his punishment and it being impossible for him to be the trapper could be argued against potentially, but the security camera perk really solidifies for me that it's really not him. if he was the killer, him showing it to tamba wouldn't be some crazy 5D chess move, it would be like 0D, stupid as all hell.

with that said, what in the goddamn was he doing in the arsenal?? i really don't know, but, if he's not the killer and i had to guess...maybe he was checking if anything was missing from it? he was there with mai when she was noting down the inventory, he would be more familiar with what's in there than most of the others. other possibility, i'm nooot really feeling this one, but maybe being in a room full of deadly weapons paradoxically made him feel safer because he had so many tools to defend himself with?...there would be also a lot of tools to kill him with, so that's eeeeeeeh, plus it doesn't explain him going in and out. and the silliest option i could think of...maybe he was the one who emptied out the arsenal. he wasn't seen carrying anything because he just took things one by one and stuffed them under his baggy as fuck tracksuit. that'd be hilarious. but then again, if he did that and his goal was so people can't use this stuff, why wouldn't he fess up immediately? hmmm. i dunno. he did clam up when tamba asked why he was there, which makes me think that him going to the arsenal wasn't a purely righteous thing if he's that stressed about it, but i'm not sure. he might just have been afraid of being told off because going to the arsenal was frowned upon in general. i seriously don't think he used anything from there.

to sum up...he's a bit sus...but i reaally don't see how he could have killed mai. i haven't read a lot of speculation yet so maybe that will change somehow, but i don't think so. so in the end, him forgetting about the punishment was probably him being a giant dummy.

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Ok not to bring up Ojima immediately in this situation but I find it super hilarious seeing theories going around that Ojima did it while drunk. Like you seriously think a stumbling drunk guy can impale the super ripped Ultimate Bounty Hunter herself Hayashi Mai with a sword just like that

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Oh dear Tamba and Ojima sharing the same braincell

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MAJOR CHAPTER 5 SPOILERS

WE ALL THOUGHT THE LINE WAS FORESHADOWING TAMBA DYING IN THE POOL BUT IT WAS HAYASHI WHOS DEAD IN THE WATER