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FOUND IT!!! everyone say thank you @herbsterwachen for this amazing piece of meta 🙂‍↕️

Can't unsee it now, there's some drink metaphor going on - Saxon making Lochy drink all those horrible shakes, later Tim making everyone drink pina colada (except Lochy) before calling it off, at the end Lochy drinking leftovers and almost dying. Over-explanation is welcome

and when tim slaps the pina colada out of saxon's hand it looks suspicious

i don't have many thoughts on this, aside from the fact that one facet of saxon and lochlan's relationship being so fucked is saxon trying to replicate the power his father has over him onto his relationship with lochlan. i believe one part of saxon grooming lochlan throughout the thailand trip is him trying to show lochlan how Good Sons treat their fathers, with saxon blindly meeting timothy on his plane of existence, work, while saxon tries to make lochlan meet him on his own plane of existence, which is sex.

from that alone, we can maybe look at the drinks as social norms passed down from father to son and "father" to son, or as toxic masculinity being forced onto younger men? or as the pressure put on sons to conform to their father's ideals? ultimately, lochlan dies because of timothy's poisonous seed, and there's a WHOLE lot of sexual imagery there, whether seed = come/DNA or seed = the roots of a toxic family tree.

we can interpret timothy not trying to murder lochlan/not giving him his drink to metaphorically be a reference to the fact that lochlan wasn't really parented by timothy the way saxon and piper were, which isn't explicitly stated but is implied-- we see both saxon and piper have individual conversations with both parents, but iirc lochlan never speaks one-on-one with victoria, only getting close when she's grilling him about piper's monastery stay-- saxon is in the corner not speaking, so it doesn't count-- and with timothy when timothy's asking him if he could live with being poor, that single conversation then leading to timothy deciding to spare him.

looking at lochlan drinking the leftovers from the blender-- during saxon and lochlan's confrontation over thailand, lochlan asks for a shake, saxon tells him he already had one, and then later lochlan decides to drink the leftovers to feel closer to saxon in the wake of this unbridgeable gap that's grown between them, which lochlan sees as his fault. during the pina colada murder-suicide circlejerk, lochlan/timothy/piper are dressed in blue tones while saxon/victoria are in somewhat like colours, lighter than the rest of the family, maybe because piper and lochlan are the only ones timothy ever really thought could be saved? but lochlan is in blue and yellow, which also matches victoria's dress and saxon's slacks.

anyway, other people have talked about this better than i can: @chekhovs-blender made this excellent video, and i know someone wrote a meta post ABOUT THIS that is way better than my answer here, but now i can't find it... if anyone knows what i'm talking about, drop it in the replies please!!

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The White Lotus 3.05 "Full-Moon Party"

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saxon's absolute horror at chloe remembering the threesome is so funny. king, you set that up! you stayed in that room! you climbed in that bed! but he is so so scared that someone outside of his family saw him and his brother and his insane behaviour and recognized it as such. "everyone has their thing," and saxon loses his mind. amazing. cinema. thank you michael white

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thinking about how lochlan’s still so young…canonically hasn’t even had a TASTE of a piña colda yet….the world is still so big and beautiful and there are so many amazing wonderful moments he’ll get to experience that i’ll NEVER get to see…. absolute depravity. it’s like a mother being separated from her own son. mike white you are SICK and VILE…..

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what's kind of funny with my meta tag being "gay incest dialectics" is that tumblr won't recommend it as a common tag until i type in the world "incest" like it's blacklisted 😭 i type gay and nothing comes up

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hey man it was wonderful to giggle with you tonight…

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the wrong people in this world are unlearning shame

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THE WHITE LOTUS 3.05 | Full-Moon Party 3.06 | Denials

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This is the most Saying Shit fandom I've ever been in. Why are people always just Saying Shit

isn’t it fun when the fandom is so though-provoking and the source material leaves so much for individual interpretation there’s always some Shit to Say

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i love this fandom so much actually guys please never stop thinking about stuff and saying shit and discussing things you give me life

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piper and lochlan having a whole conversation without saying a word is such sibling core

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THE WHITE LOTUS 3.06 "Denials"

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This destroys me every time....he sounds so sad and pitiful here, my poor boy!! he's just a baby!!!

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it’s unhealthy attachment to YOU. to me it’s foreplay