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Hi Jade :)

Seeing your Tara Bala posts left me wondering: just how important / apparent / influential is our Sun placement compared to the Moon and Ascendant (and even the other planets for that matter).

Is the Sun expression mainly dependant on the Dasha system?

I'm really confused about the 'role' the Sun places in our chart, seeing the Moon is our basic consciousness and the Asc. the constant lessons we go through (life path of sorts).

I've seen astrologers putting the Big 3 as the most influential factors in our charts, while others brush the Sun below the Moon and Asc. idk where to mentally place my own sun and its driving me crazy lol

Curious to know your two cents!

I included all big 3 in my Tara Bala compatibility question posts.

The ascendant is the most fixed point in our chart. That’s why it doesn’t have a Dasha period, because it’s always “on”, it’s the definition of our unique incarnation. That’s why birth time precision is so important. The ascendant is the bgm of our lives, that you can’t ever turn off.

The Moon is the first security attachment we develop in a human body, the moment we are born. Ernst Wilhelm attaches Moon development to the first two years of human life. Ever wonder why toddlers cry all the time? It’s because our immortal soul is having growing pains creating an ego attachment to even having a physical body and a separate identity. The Moon rules the physical foundation, that allows our soul to survive, function and even thrive on Earth. That’s why the Moon’s needs are so basic, because without them we can’t go further.

The Sun is our natural soul radiance. It’s what our soul in a human vehicle ends up producing as a result of our inherent soul glory. That’s why it takes time to grow into your Sun, because it takes a certain maturity to be able to truly get to know yourself, burn off bad karmas and actually express your essence, reevaluate what you still want to achieve that makes you you. That’s why the Sun’s age is between ages 50-70, when we have enough maturity and independence to really be ourselves unconditionally.

Most people who write to me are way below 50. Identifying with your Sun fully can take time, and that’s ok.

The reason why we focus on the big 3 is their strength of influence.

How our basic mindset acts through the Moon will largely determine our daily life. The ascendant is something you can never shut off. Our natural self expression always shines through and motivates us subtly through our karmas, even if it takes time to grow into it fully.

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Another pairing shown on media-- Marshall Eriksen and Lily Aldrin from How I Met Your Mother. They were already established as couple when the show began. Although they seem stable and happy with each other, they had their own problems, like Lily breaking off her engagement with Marshall to go to San Francisco for pursuing in painting, and Marshall accepting as the judge (or a lawyer in a firm, IDK it's been a while since I've watched the show) when they are supposed to leave for Italy)

These asks make me realise I really miss out on a lot of mainstream stuff lol of course I heard of this show but I never watched it, I think I fell asleep to a pilot once. At least I know these actors from other roles.

Jason Segel

Alyson Hannigan

They're Uttara Bhadrapada and Uttara Phalguni yoni consorts, which explains the break-up and make-up stuff you described in your ask. I'm gonna have to take your word for it, cause I didn't watch the show, but your description matches the yoni consort dynamic. Again, the TV world loves yoni for the drama.

Personally, I preferred Jason Segel with Cameron Diaz, because they had a Purva Phalguni/Uttara Phalguni match and that flows much better as far as couple chemistry goes. Alyson also worked better in American Pie, where her co-star was her Para Mitra, Punarvasu.

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Harvey Specter and Mike Ross from Suits.

Gentleman nr 1

Gentleman nr 2

Never saw this show or these actors. But they have a typical Mitra Tara Bala Swati - Shravana. They also have an interesting aspect of a Rahu - Ketu synastry conjunction. I have this with my husband, and this is a very karmic dynamic.

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How about a marvel pairing? Steve Rogers (Chris Evans) and Bucky Barnes (Sebastian Stan)? This is odd to me, because iirc their chemistry was talked about relentlessly back in the day. they do have a yoni pairing but no Mitra or Para Mitra I think. They even have a “killer” relationship between two of their main nakshatras if I’m not mistaken 🤔

God I hate Marvel but sure.

Chris Evans

Sebastian Stan

Very typical pairing. Rohini - Mrigashira yoni match and Mitra Tara Bala Magha - Anuradha. So default chemistry people look for. No worst enemy energies.

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More iconic couples for you to analyze, please!

Thelma and Louise (Geena Davis and Susan Sarandon)

Toretto and Brian from F&F (Vin Diesel and Paul Walker)

Charlie Harper and Alan Harper (Charlie Sheen & Jon Cryer)

Thank you very much!

This is definitely interesting for me, because I never saw most of these films except for FxF, even though I heard of them.

Geena Davis

Susan Sarandon

This is a pretty simple one, both women have Shravana placements and Geena Davis gives Shravana both Mitra through Bharani and Para Mitra through Krittika. So again, a typical movie Para Mitra scenario.

Vin Diesel

Paul Walker

Typical Tara Bala again, Vin Diesel's Mula is mitra and para mitra to Walker's Purva and Uttara Phalguni.

Charlie Sheen

John Cryer

This is the first really weak Tara Bala I've seen so far. They have some synastry aspects, like the Moon Mars conjunction, but there are so many more workable on-screen relationships, and these charts show why. The "top popularity" factor is just not there. Many actors remain friends off-set, even if the relationship doesn't turn romantic. It is well-known from a simple google search, that these two don't even speak to each other. So the weak Tara Bala shows down to the actor's relationships. This is the example I used before, how poor mutual Tara Bala reflects in poorer couple screen performance. Two and a Half Men is an average sitcom, not an iconic screen pairing.

However, actors can still carry a role for their own individual career, if they have a strong Tara Bala in their own charts, meaning they have a presence. And this works here, as the Nakshatras of Vishakha and Swati are next to each other for John Cryer, and Charlie Sheen is extremely karmically lucky, as his entire big 3 carries itself (Mula is best friend to Purva Phalguni who is friend to Rohini).

Still, this pairing was kind of a fail, which is why Charlie Sheen was replaced with Ashton Kutcher as a marketing point in posters. Ashton Kutcher and John Cryer actually have a Swati-Dhanishta Para Mitra and Vishakha-Dhanishta Mitra Tara Bala lol.

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What is it like when only one person's chart is giving mitra and paramitra to another person's chart? For example, the ascendant and the moon of this person I knew gave mitra and paramitra to my big three, but my big three did not reciprocate similarly, apart from me having a sun nakshatra that was friendly to their sun nakshatra (Chitra and Shatabhisha). Does this suggest a bond that is more one-sided, or where one party is more fulfilled than the other, because it's like they're more best friend to me than I am to them, in a strictly astrological sense. I hope it's not like that, and that it's still mutually fulfilling and enriching, with a balanced exchange at play.

You get the karmas that you get, and you shouldn't blame yourself for having the chart you have or the people you meet.

Life is not always 100% perfectly laid out. Sometimes you meet people and their karmic purpose is to be your best friend tara bala, sometimes it's the other way around. Sometimes you just need someone to help you grow, other times they need you.

It is extremely rare to have friends, not to mention romantic connections, that feel balanced and reciprocal on both ends. Not saying it doesn't happen, but you maybe get a few people like this throughout your entire life if you're lucky.

Giving also feels good, if it's right, so don't feel guilty, it should make the giver happy as well. Also, Tara Bala is not just about give and take but about growth. The situation simply means, that in the example you described one person is going to naturally push the other one to grow just by being themselves.

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Why is Anuradha Ashlesha's paramitra? How does the dynamic between the two work? I remember you making a similar post about Revati and Pushya, and I'm curious about the Anuradha-Ashlesha pair. One popular work I've seen it in is Forrest Gump, starring Tom Hanks, who is Ashlesha Moon, and Robin Wright, who is Anuradha Moon (allegedly).

On a side note, it's also interesting how you mentioned that moon nakshatras are friendly to Mars nakshatras, and the same applies to Saturn with Mercury. Still, you also have the Rohini-Mrigashira pair, and opposite to that, Anuradha and Jyestha. So, although Rohini and Anuradha are friendly to the other two in some sense, it's still a tussle because of the yoni pairing.

I previously discussed the differences between Yoni matches and Tara Bala, and why I believe good Tara Bala is superior, both in your own chart and synastry. And yes, these pairs you described are going to struggle and have conflicts, same with Magha and Purva Phalguni.

Hanks

Wright (no birth time so disregard the Lagna, but she is an Anuradha Moon, from my physiognomy study)

We actually have 2 Tara Balas here. Punarvasu (Hanks) gives Mitra to Revati (Wright), plus the Ashlesha Anuradha Yoni Pairing.

The key theme of this pairing is devotion and returning to each other unconditionally. There is a strong basis of friendship. Ashlesha can be aloof and appear distrustful due to trauma, which hides their paranoid nature, but it is very closely devoted to the selected few, just like Forrest was bullied and mocked by pretty much everyone, including authority figures, but was unquestionably devoted to his War friend, his mother, his Vietnam Lieutenant, Jenny herself.

Notice, how no matter how much trouble she gets in and how many other men she sleeps with, no matter how troubled she is, Forrest is there for her (his Punarvasu definitely plays a role here), same as she was the only child in school who was friendly to him no matter how uncool he was or how much other people bullied him. So Ashlesha's "clinginess" and trust issues that can manifest in aggression are soothed by Anuradha's tolerant and friendly nature, that shows unconditional compassion and understands even deep psychological dysfunction.

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Chandler and Monica became a couple after a vulnerable night before Ross’ wedding. Both came from emotionally distant families, fueling their insecurities. Unlike Ross and Rachel, they handled conflicts with maturity and built a strong, supportive relationship. Though unable to conceive, they adopted twins and embraced parenthood. They never used their relationship to escape from their problems but rather worked through it. That's why they are endearing as a couple

That is such a nice example of how you can use positive Tara Bala in synastry to overcome your own chart flaws!

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I think Ernest Wilhelm calculates his divisional charts based on tropical signs rather than nakshatras. For example let’s say you have a planet in tropical 1° Taurus, in mid mula galactic that’s Ashwini pada 4. Conventionally Ashwini pada 4 is navamsa Cancer, but it is instead calculated based on the fact that sidereal 1° Taurus is pada 2 Krittika which would give you navamsa Capricorn. That’s what I assume the logic is anyway

What are your thoughts on this? Is there a way to adjust this on the Kala software?

I use the Kala software defaults for calculations. I honestly have no idea how his Navamsa is calculated. My signs changed but houses practically didn’t. I also can’t really check because Kala offers a limited view of divisionals compared to Jagannatha Hora, which lets you view Nakshatras in divisionals etc.

I actually just checked and Kala gives me the same results as Hora for my Navamsa, and Hora is a very traditional Vedic software. Of course, that works only if you set Hora to tropical Ayanamsa, which is not the same as Kala’s default. But the Navamsa results seem to be the same.

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I got two pairs!!! both from Buddy Cop themed movies:

Mel Gibson and Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon

Channing Tatum and Jonah Hill in 21 Jumpstreet

Channing Tatum

Jonah Hill

This is yet again a typical Para Mitra Tara Bala. Jonah Hill's Uttara Ashadha finds a best friend in Channing Tatum's Bharani. One typical aspect. Which makes sense because I thought this movie was average.

Mel Gibson

Danny Glover

Never saw the movie, but this is a decently strong Tara Bala.

Gibson's Punarvasu finds support in Glover's Pushya. Glover's Mula finds support in Gibson's Purva Ashadha. So this is pretty strong mutual support, with Nakshatras next to each other.

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Since you already analyzed Brad Pitt... lol

Recently watched Ocean's 11 and I am wondering: What can you say about the chemistry between Danny (George Clooney) and Rusty (Brad Pitt)?

Thx!!!

Pitt Again

Clooney

This is an extremely strong Tara Bala. We have multiple pairings.

First of all, Uttara Ashadha (Pitt) receives support from the Nakshatra next to it, Shravana (Clooney). Then, Uttara Ashadha (Pitt) receives Para Mitra from Bharani (Clooney). Then, we have another Mitra between Jyeshta (Pitt) and Purva Bhadrapada (Clooney).

So Clooney is literally Pitt's ride or die, he expands his life and supports him to an extreme level. I didn't see the movie, so I can't tell, but this is very strong support, even if one-sided.

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For the fictional couple, how about Monica and Chandler from Friends?

Monica (Courtney Cox)

Chandler (Mathew Perry)

Typical ParaMitra Tara Bala, her Jyeshta is best friend to his Magha. However, both of these people have discordancy within their own charts, problems with themselves...they might hope the relationship will save them from their own personal issues, and that doesn't really work long term. I never watched "Friends", so I don't know much about this pairing, but the Para Mitra Tara Bala is typical.

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Hello Jade, I was wondering why Mula and Ardra would not work as a yoni match? Like what’s the karma between them? 🤔

Initially, they match because they’re both outcasts in a way, both can scare people energetically. But Mula actually has a very high standard and desires to ultimately purge negativity in order to create. They grow into staying away from the fight. Ardra, however, enjoys its search and destroy mission. So they drift apart, Ardra looking for release, Mula looking for peace.

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Why is it not ideal to have yoni consort match with someone else? Also, which is each nakshatra’s best friend? I’m trying to figure it out, but I can’t understand how, for example, Aswini’s best friend is Ashlesha. What about the rest?

Thank you.

Read my work. I literally answered all of those questions, one of them only a few hours ago. I have extensive posts on the other two ones.

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Jade I wonder if for Tara Bala you mainly focus on the main placements or also the rest of the chart?

Big 3 mostly. Sometimes there are other planets involved but you can really go into a rabbit hole with his one, so better stick to big 3 for general judgment.

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We just did Brad Pitt in another ask. He's popular today lol

And Angelina

They don't have a yoni match, which is probably why their on-screen chemistry turned into such a long lasting irl relationship, with a big family and all. It didn't last forever, but it also didn't end quickly like yoni matches tend do, they were together for 11 years. And of course, they also have a Para Mitra Tara Bala, where Angelina's Revati is best friends with Brad's Mula. They also have the Rohini-Jyeshta match.

So this is a nice example of a fictional relationship translated to irl substance.

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Tyler durden and the narrator from fight club?

BIG FIGHT CLUB SPOILERS AHEAD

This is not a traditional situation because, well, one of them is not real, and they're essentially the same person. So they don't really have a typical relationship, one of them is a manifestation of what the other is not.

But...the actors still have ParaMitra Tara Bala lol, not only that, they're also yoni consorts. Which is the most typical arrangment in famous screen duos.

Here is Ed Norton (the real Tyler)

Here is Brad Pitt (Tyler's imaginary friend)

This is the typical scenario I described, where famous duos both have good Tara Balas, that help them grow together, but also a yoni match that makes them have an addictive, push and pull dynamic with breakups, which adds screen drama.

They're Yoni Consorts (Norton is Anuradha, Pitt is Jyeshta), and Edward Norton's Magha finds best friend Tara Bala in Pitt's Jyeshta.

Interestingly enough, Pitt's Uttara Ashadha is also Norton's Swati's worst enemy. Which is why they end up disagreeing.

So Pitt is both his other half/best friend and his worst enemy, the one that triggers him the most. Definitely an interesting Tara Bala, that 100% confirms my observations.

Interestingly enough, Tyler's female love interest, Marla (Helena Bonham Carter), even though she doesn't have a verified birth time for her rising, is a Magha Moon and Rohini Sun. We mostly see her interact with Tyler's imaginary friend. That is the Jyeshta-Rohini connection, because Jyeshta is the "Rohini of Indra". Plus, Jyeshta is a Para Mitra to her Magha Moon. That's why she fucks Brad Pitt, but never Ed Norton, although her and Ed do have a Sun-Moon conjunction.

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