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Hi,

I was wondering how you'd respond to this

"What does feeling like a woman mean? Outside of gender norms and stereotypes?"

Feeling like a woman isn’t about ticking off gender stereotypes like dresses, makeup or whatever. It’s an internal sense of embodiment like an instinctive feeling of how you should exist in your body and how you relate to yourself and others. Even outside of societal norms, most people just know in a deep way what fits for them and what doesn’t. Same way you don’t have to explain why you feel human or why you feel alive...it’s just a fundamental part of your being....like handedness...being right-handed or left-handed. You don’t choose it because of cultural pressure it’s an innate way your brain and body sync together.

Gender identity works in a similar internal embodied way...also stereotypes didn’t create that feeling they just distort it....a person can know they are male or female regardless of societal roles that’s why even people raised without strict gender roles still often have a very clear sense of their gender internally

"What does feeling like a man mean?"

Feeling like a man like feeling like a woman isn’t about stereotypes like liking football or having a beard. It’s about the internal sense that your body, mind, and presence fit a certain way into the world...a deep "this is me" feeling. It's identity at the level of existence, not clothing not behavior. Just like cis men feel a natural unquestioned comfort identifying as male without listing traits...trans men feel the same way even if their bodies at birth didn’t match their internal map. Imagine being handed a script at birth saying "you are female" or "you are male" but from the very beginning something inside you just knew it was wrong. Not because you hated certain stereotypes or hobbies but because your entire self felt mislabeled.

Research has shown that trans people's brain structures often align more closely with their identified gender than with their sex assigned at birth (example: Rametti et al., 2011 on white matter patterns)....ancient societies like the Two-Spirit people among native americans recognized that gender identity could exist beyond stereotypes...it’s been understood for centuries that gender isn't purely societal roles. If gender was only about social expectations, trans people could just conform instead of risking everything to live as themselves. But they don't because it's way deeper than that

Ah, the usual post modern word salad: when you finish reading it you don't even know what was said. It's just a "deep, instinctive, internal, innate, identity at the level of existence." lol what? They love musing about the abstract and they're always one step away from talking about a soul. I'm only interested in material reality.

There's no such thing as "feeling like a woman." Women are not a feeling, women are individuals. We're not an identity, we're not a concept, we're not an emotion, we are people with our own thoughts and personalities. So there's nothing to "identify" with, unless you don't think women are people. A man can't know what being a woman "feels" like because 1) he's not one and 2) womanhood is not a feeling, nor an identity, it's just a biological fact. Simple. To say otherwise is as stupid, ridiculous and offensive as saying "I identify as black" when you're white. It doesn't even deserve an answer. Just point and laugh.

"Feeling like a woman isn’t about ticking off gender stereotypes like dresses, makeup or whatever."

Why are "gender therapists" diagnosing kids as trans for, I quote, "consistently not conforming to gender stereotypes?" Why are transbros candidly saying "I always knew I was a girl, even as a kid I liked nail polish and make up! uwu" I've lost count of the number of times I've heard that one. Or the women saying in interviews that they always knew they were a boy because they liked football and didn't want to become a housewife. Why does Amnesty International define being transgender as not conforming to the traditional expectations associated with one's sex? Why are people claiming a person is "trans" the minute they don't follow sexist stereotypes? Butch women in particular. Why is "gender expression" even a thing? Expressing your "innate gender" through clothes and mannerisms, that's not sexist? You go on reddit and read what "trans women" are writing and vomit at the casual misogyny. Why are so many trans people gay? Why are the large majority of them girls? Why so many underage girls? I mean if it has nothing to do with sexist stereotypes, then there's no reason for girls to be the ones most willing to become members of the opposite sex, right? Don't tell me this is "innate."

"It’s an internal sense of embodiment like an instinctive feeling of how you should exist in your body and how you relate to yourself and others."

There are some people who have an "instinctive feeling of how they should exist in their bodies" that tells them they should be disabled. They buy wheelchairs, white canes and injure themselves on purpose. Is that okay? Should we all pretend they're actually disabled so as not to be bigots? Should we pay for their amputations? Or should they get therapy and learn to accept themselves and reality? I personally feel like I should be able-bodied and play sports, does that change reality? It's such a male way of thinking: "my feelings are facts and my thoughts can change reality." What about anorexics? They also have "an instinctive feeling of how they should exist in their bodies." Actually, we're back to mind/body dualism: "exist in your body" as if you were the inhabitant of a body, when in reality you are your body.

"Even outside of societal norms, most people just know in a deep way what fits for them and what doesn’t."

It's an empty sentence but I think it's funny that someone would claim to know how people think "outside of societal norms" when every human being on earth was born in a human society. They're declaring as "fact" something that they can't possibly know.

"Even people raised without strict gender roles still often have a very clear sense of their gender internally"

Same remark as before. No one was ever raised without strict gender roles in a patriarchal society. They're declaring as "fact" something that they can't possibly know.

Also, if this so called "gender identity" a personal sense of self then it can't be proven nor disputed. We're just supposed to believe, on faith, that this dude is a woman because he says so. That the oppressor is actually oppressed. Even if I were to ignore how offensive that is, I would have to point out that asking people to believe you on faith, especially as you say something grotesque, is raising all the alarm bells for me. That's just not the way I operate.

"You don’t choose it because of cultural pressure it’s an innate way your brain and body sync together."

Again, how do they know that? Since every human being is born in a culture? How can they know that it's innate and not cultural? That's the third time they claim to know something they can't know. The nature vs nurture debate is still ongoing in the scientific field, but this random tumblr user has everything figured out apparently...

"Your entire self felt mislabeled."

Yes, when you're a girl and you're labelled all sorts of nasty things because you were born female, your entire self feels "mislabelled" indeed. It's not being trans, it's being human.

"Imagine being handed a script at birth saying "you are female""

They call it a "script" because to them your biological sex defines your entire life (because of gender stereotypes. Yes, the same gender stereotypes they claim don't matter).

"Research has shown that trans people's brain structures..."

Blablabla no. There's no woman brain vs man brain, that's been debunked as sexist nonsense. The researches done on transbros is flimsy at best. Also the ones studied were gay (not the usual "transbians" we've come to know and hate.) There is, to this day, no proof that "gender identity" is a biological fact. And it makes sense given how nebulous a concept it is. Also, the brain is not the only organ that makes you you. All your organs work in concert with each others and are responsible for the person are. In the scientific field, they even call the intestines "the second brain", because we've discovered that it impacts our feelings.

"Ancient societies like the Two-Spirit people among native americans recognized that gender identity could exist beyond stereotypes…"

This is the seemingly inevitable moment when the trans activist reveals that they're white. They looooove the "noble savage" trope. You see, if even the primitive savages agree with me, then I must be right, right? They're connected to nature and stuff. Before the white coloniser tainted them, they were pure and always right :) But "ancient societies"....? The term two-spirit was invented in the 90s... it's a modern concept to categorise people who don't conform to sexist stereotypes... it was invented, much like "non-binary", by people who, instead of challenging gender roles, decided to claim that if someone was operating outside of those gender roles then they weren't normal or a real female or male.

"It’s been understood for centuries that gender isn't purely societal roles."

To us feminists it's always been understood that gender is a patriarchal tool invented to subjugate women. There's nothing fun or deep or personal about it. Certainly nothing innate nor instinctual. Gender is sexism.

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give it up for complaining online

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god I fear your opinion on bisexual lesbioromantics lmao. like- i call myself bi lesbian because I have sex with men and women but i've only ever felt romantically towards women and like I feel like whatever you're opinion is on that is probably interesting enough to be studied in a lab

i think people who call themselves bi lesbians should kill themselves

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me af

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"it''ll be a statue of a woman, like a beautiful statue of a woman, and it'll be like...she helped lead the way for so many refugees or she was a nurse or she was this and she was that. She was just this pillar of society in her time. She was such an influential and powerful woman.

And they'll zoom in on her face, and they'll zoom in on the plaque, and they'll zoom out and show a full body...and it’ll show that one of her breasts has been basically rubbed off and it’s so shiny because all the tourists and, you know, whoever, has touched her breast and that's her legacy now.

[…] and you walk up to it and it’s just… through all that, through all the effort, through all the care and all the legacy she left behind, the only thing that she is now seen for is her breasts. That's gonna make me actually sick."

-brittany broski via the broski report

juliet, dalida, idk, molly malone

some people are just fucking rotten on the inside.

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I also wanna say that I graduated undergrad with one of my majors being “women and gender studies” in 2018 and trans people were not mentioned in any of my classes. My main, brilliant professor with phds in both women’s studies and psychology (I know it’s more specific than that but i don’t remember) had us reading about and discussing socialization, men as an oppressor class, micro & macro examples of sexism, and systemic misogyny. We talked and read and wrote about female liberation. We discussed a ton of feminist theory and various feminist authors. We focused heavily on the intersections of misogyny and race, sexuality, and class. And the focus was always women and our sex based oppression. This sexist trend of dismissing or diminishing misogyny and dancing around the reality that women are an oppressed class is new and fragile. Less than 10 years ago genuine feminist sentiments were gaining mainstream traction. We can make up the lost ground.

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And btw, they know.

They didnt misread 200+ years worth of feminist theory. They knew all along women wanted to overcome the sexist discrimination meted out to us based on our biology, not the entire idea of biology itself.

They don't actually think that when Simone DeBeauvoir said "women are made, not born" that she was writing in favour of gender roles totally defining women.

They know "biological essentialism" means women are boxed in by sexist, untrue stereotypes, not that it's wrong to say women have vaginas.

Probably some of young, ill read ones are genuinely confused. But most of the grown ones knew exactly what they were doing this entire time.

They knew they were lying, twisting concepts, pretending feminists meant something we didn't. And they thought they could get away with it. Some people did it because they don't like or respect women. Some people did it because it was politically expedient to do at the time. Some women who definitely knew better joined in doing it because it was already happening and they were too scared to push back so they thought "what the hell, sure"

They know. They always knew they were lying about feminist theory. Just like they always knew who is a man and who is a woman. The entire thing grew out of a lie and lying just become a way life for them.

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Gosh trans people are really the number one issue on these people's minds at all points in time. How is it possible that a billionaire is using his money to influence the American governments and JKR and trans people are still a fucking talking point.

*man does some bullshit*

"oh if JKR could do the same bullshit she would! You see, trans people..." Like are we actually just writing baseless lies about women now? trans exclusive is really the worst thing a woman can be huh

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ok, for those of you who don't know, jk rowljng donated £70k to an organisation of Scottish women who wanted the legal definition of a woman to be based on biological sex alone in the uk. today they had this ruled for in court.

the legal definition of a woman in the uk is now based purely on biological sex, likely preventing trans people from changing their sex on legal documents. we are still apparently protected from discrimination though.

the worst part of this is that news reports have been treating this as a good thing. jk rowling is painted as an amazing person in school assemblies. after doing not only what she does on twitter, but actively funding the discrimination of trans people.

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"I don't like JRK but I still love Harry Potter"

You have blood on your hands

Burn your fucking Harry Potter merch or be burned with it.

I'm fucking livid.

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dear trans people, you are in a death cult.

if you see a country enact sex-based definitions & protections for women and homosexuals, and your echo chamber begins repeating how you're gonna be hunted for sport in the streets — you are in a death cult.

if you see a country give a ruling that woman is a sex-based category, and your echo chamber begins preaching how you must donate immediately to "save trans women's lives" — you are in a death cult, one that cares for your money more than your wellbeing.

if that same country within that very ruling recognizes legal protections for trans people and recognizes their transness, and your echo chamber begins shrieking how this is equivalent to genocide — you are in a death cult, one that wants you afraid, believing unconditionally, and not thinking with your own head.

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I mourn for the rebellious masc 'girl' in every movie, who grow out of her manliness and becomes some asshole's domesticated wife. I mourn for her short untameable hair, which she was always running a hand through in those old photos. I see the way her fingers linger as she goes through the album with her young daughter, forcing a laugh at who she 'used' to be.

T would have saved him.

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i don’t want to hear anyone whining about harry potter on the “my blorbos from good omens are more important than the survivors of neil gaiman’s horrific abuse” site. i genuinely don’t care about your hypocritical virtue-signaling you are all reactionary posers without any moral spine pantomiming political literacy and basic human empathy. you whine about nuance and treat the real world like it’s hollywood blockbuster-world with your villains and superheroes and gotchas. you are extremist nutjobs who genuinely think men are a marginalized group and jews are bloodthirsty sociopaths infiltrating government and gay people are bigoted for being attracted to members of their own sex. you bully women and girls and victims of male violence bc they aren’t perfect fucking activists and treat misogyny like a niche sub-culture. you are uncritical of any doctrine passed over to you by white “queer” liberals. because you don’t actually listen to the marginalized—you just like speaking for them. because you’re fucking narcissists. you’re racist as fuck. you LITERALLY find nazis forgivable while calling for the death and rape of TERFs. y’all are progressive conspiracy theorists coming up with the wildest most bad faith takes until you hallucinate pseudo-histories where trans women somehow started the stonewall riots and the nazis hunted trans people first. fucking babies.

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dumb bitches on this website will go so far to prove that trans women are actually men, they literally will reduce “women” to being small breedable 12 year old anime girls floating in a glass jar of formaldehyde waiting for some old man to come along and fuck them and tell them they are so teeeeeeeny tiny and worth it. um, bitch, u have coarse hair on ur pussy and asshole. u are not delicate, you are a BEAST. u are a nasty little slug too and having a vachina does not absolve u of that. what’s with the beef. stop trying to punch down, he’s still not gonna fuck u. 

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inshallah jk rowling loses her fortune and all her hateful deeds are returned to her x10

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Seeing the entire newspaper stand in my local with every headline about the For Women Scotland win against the Scottish Government is hitting me right in the luteal phase. What a spectacular triumph :’)