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Do we think the tone of show is going to change with its move to abc?

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ok but besides everything else about that scene, it’s like. the same thing as having the will scene completely eclipse buck and taylor getting together in 4.14, or the writers showing eddie come home to buck after his date with ana, and xyz….because the scene at the cemetery wasn’t necessary for the plot nor the development of buck and natalia's relationship, and that time could've been put into fleshing out buck and natalia's date/relationship a bit more, into actually backing up everything he was saying about her and making it make any form of sense - and yet instead we got that scene between buck and eddie, with eddie looking so hurt and unhappy as buck talks about meeting up with natalia and about how seen and understood he feels by her

anyway tldr it just doesn't make sense for them to include an otherwise unnecessary scene between buck and eddie (and which could've instead been used to develop buck and natalia's new relationship) unless it is in fact necessary, which - yeah. everything is intentional, especially with it being this late in the season and that's all i've gotta say

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how does she see more in him after knowing him for like 5 minutes pls 😭 calm down buck

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I used to think Eddie was def bi, but the more and more this show goes on I’m convinced he’s just a lil old gay man

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You know it’s interesting how buck and eddie quiet literally talk about everything and anything with each other - their whole lives are just so connected in so many ways but the one topic that both guys don’t outright bring up with the other (like you would with your bestie) are their love life’s. In the cases that they have, it’s either been a passing mention never expanded on (when eddie re-met ana & brought her up to buck but the conversation was cut short because they walked into the clown call) or something that they discuss as a group (again, ana being brought up in front of the 118 at the firehouse & buck not really chiming in, Taylor being brought up). But other than that, usually they go to other people to have the deeper conversations around their romantic lives: eddie going to bobby and buck going to maddie or bobby. The one scene we did get of them having more of a heart-to-heart was where buck encourages eddie to do the right thing and break up with ana. But but - even that was something that came to surface because buck was pestering eddie about his heart and then the aftermath of eddie’s breakup was never brought up. No check-in from buck and no update from eddie. Idk it’s just really interesting because if there’s one thing that I’m 100% going to my bestie for - it’s the romantic relationships and romantic problems in my life.

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The domestic buckley-Diaz family scenes of them just existing in each other’s spaces (cooking dinner, hanging out, doing homework, talking, etc) are actually way louder than we think & I think if anything “implicit” is going to get the gen audience going 👀 about buddie and the three of them as a family, it’s def those scenes

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anyway so I started s6 from the beginning with my mom (who’s a casual and has seen seasons 1-5 ) and let me tell ya what happened again! we’re watching the first episode and the Buckley-Diaz fam dinner (lasagna and couch convo) scene comes on and my mother goes: “See what I mean?! They’re like a couple. Are they making them a couple?”. Me: “I don’t know, why?” Mom: “He’s either at their house or they’re at his. And they have a kid.” And btw - This reaction comes after yesterday’s when we were watching the most recent episode of s6 and the Buckley-Diaz family scene of them hanging out and discovering Buck’s new powers came on ( she had a similar reaction this scene as well).

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If we don’t get a similar post-date sequence with eddie coming home to buck like we did in Breaking Point then what even is the point of eddie dating again. Gimme the updated version of “you’re late”, “there was construction on sunset”, “you’re a miracle worker”, “no, just an excellent negotiator”.

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Eddie with women is either just an awkward situation or an intensely platonic dynamic. Nothing in between.

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I know we assume the general audience doesn’t see buddie as romantic or potentially romantic but I don’t feel like that may be so true. I binged like the first 3 seasons of the show with my mom a few years ago and ever since then she’s been a casual watcher with me - watching some episodes of the new seasons here and there. She hasn’t seen s6 since it aired so I thought why not watch the new episode with her. We get to the scene with buck, eddie, and chris sitting around buck’s table, chris doing homework, everyone just hanging out etc, and my mother, who I reiterate is a causal watcher and isn’t emotionally invested in the show belong the entertainment goes: “I’m surprised they haven’t put these two together yet.” And I just went, “why do you say that?” And her response was: “They’re always together and basically raising a child with each other.” She also has a fairly heteronormative world view/didn’t grow up in a environment where same-sex stuff was even talked about and she was still able to detect something more than just a friendship with them - so idk I feel like it isn’t far fetched to think other casual viewers have thought or think the same about the dynamic between buck and eddie

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Just thinking out loud for a moment but buddie going canon is still something I’m not entirely sure will happen (I want it to, yes. Will it? I think it could be either or). But, but, but !!! After the recent episode and the amount of Buckley-Diaz family content we got + the one-on-on Buck and Chris moment with them baking cookies for Chris’ class, I feel something we will see in canon, possibly even by the end of this season, is Buck being established as Chris’ second dad by (Eddie, Chris, Bobby, Maddie, a complete third party, possibly Buck himself).

First, I know we’ve been getting Buckley-Diaz family scenes for a while now, including moments that have just Buck and Chris present, taking on a parent-child relationship, with Eddie no where in sight. So this is nothing new, but I do think the writers constantly include these moments, and frankly, are getting more explicit with the parent-child nature of the moments because they want to establish Buck as a second father figure to Chris in a way that can’t be contested. For instance, Chris having such a pivotal scene with Buck in the hospital after the lightning strike. The way it was framed, the dialogue, the real focus given to Chris’ words, Chris’ insistence to see Buck, and Eddie going around the rules of the hospital to get Chris in the hospital room- it was a big deal. Also, the way the camera focused on Eddie crying while listening to Chris talk to Buck - another interesting choice. Then we have the less intense but very domestic scene of Buck and Chris baking cookies for Chris’ class (with Eddie not around). This was something they could’ve very well just not shown or shown between just Eddie and Chris (or even all three!). But they didn’t want to do that. They chose Buck to be the one to bake with Chris (and not just for fun because he wasn’t babysitting him, it was for his class!) and I think it’s to further establish the kind of relationship the two have - a relationship that exists outside of Eddie. A relationship where Buck takes on roles that people would expect Eddie/the father to be taking on (and not to undermine Eddie and his fatherhood in anyway, but to really show how Buck has become so intertwined with the Diaz boys and how they’ve become intertwined with him). Overall, both of these scenes in my opinion depict a pretty explicit parent-child dynamic and I do think even the GA audience probably saw it as such —without needing to read too much into it.

Second, through this season, particularly the second half, we’ve had many moments around fathers—estranged, found-fathers, adoptive fathers, father-like figures etc. We briefly saw Chim and his father and the discussion of how he wasn’t there and Mr. Lee (another man) was, we saw Buck’s father come back after a while & in that same episode we had Bobby being explicitly established as a father to Buck, we had Denny’s storyline with his biological and I guess, estranged father, and we’ve had the sperm donor storyline which also creates this idea of a two father figures. Connor being the actual father of the baby (who’ll raise them) and Buck being the sperm-donor/biological father. There’s also this uncertainty they’ve showed with Connor and taking on fatherhood and then Buck sort of determining his role (if he feels there is any) beyond being a donor.

AND and, to add, there was also this mention of “a man cannot raise another man’s child/a man should raise his own child….” by Chim’s dad in response to Buck being a sperm donor which I thought was interesting because in this whole show, pretty much, many men (and women) have raised or are serving as a parental figure to a child/children (grown up and young) that are not biologically their own. In some cases, they are the only proper father figure present in the kid’s/adult’s life (Bobby with Buck, Mr. Lee with Chim, etc), and in other cases, they’re serving an additional role that works in conjunction with the biological, very present and wonderful father (ie: Bobby and Micheal with May and Harry, and one could strongly argue, Eddie and Buck with Chris) , and essentially creating a family (Grant-Nash Family, Buckley-Diaz family).

Now on to the third point - once again, the sperm donor arc. This story line is still floating around and hasn’t come to a proper conclusion, and even though it’s been pushed to the side for now, it’s very much still there and I do think it’s going to come back to make a significant conclusion in Buck’s life. I mean, that was the whole point, right? Why else have the storyline and why else let it take up a whole season? Now, because of all of these factors combined, I’m thinking this conclusion tor eh storyline will have something to do with the role Buck takes on in Chris’ life, and that’ll sort of serve as something that will lead into a different Buck/add to his growth. I don’t know what this will mean for buddie in the grand scheme of everything, but one thing we can be sure of is that the Buckley-Diaz family is stronger than ever and will continue to be.

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has anyone talked about the blue/green colour theory on here yet from the last episode? bathena wearing blue and green, maddney wearing blue and green, and then buck and eddie wearing blue and green? with bathena’s blue and green being the darkest/deepest. I think I saw someone say how the colours got darker based on how long the couple has been together/how far into their relationship they are. honestly, an interesting theory because it has to be more than coincidence for three pairings to be wearing the colours, but then I wonder why they didn’t have hen and karen in the colours as well

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someone pointed out how whenever buck or eddie are looking at the other with heart eyes, the other isn’t looking back. for instance, when gives eddie the heart eyes, eddie’s usually looking else where and vice versa and basically basically this means that in order for them to REALIZE, one of them just needs to catch the other giving him heart eyes and then they’ll know and so will the audience because there’s absolutely no way anyone can deny their love when such eye contact is taking place

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No but tell how whenever they show the Buckley-Diaz family together, it’s never an event. Its not this dramatic, once in a blue moon occasion. It’s always just this straight wholesome and domestic family dynamic with Buck and Eddie having a beer, talking about something random - Chris doing his homework & joining in on the conversation between the adults?? Maybe someone’s cooking or maybe they’re already eating. And it’s ALWAYS framed as something that occurs even outside of the moments we see it happen.

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Here’s a list of the ways Buck and Eddie (and Chris) have existed in each other’s homes:

In Eddie’s House:

- Buck coming to Eddie’s home during his panic attack & breaking into the room after Chris called him to let him know something’s going on with his dad

- Buck helping Eddie patch up the the walls of his bedroom because “he’s good at fixing things”

- Buck coming over to Eddie’s to seek refuge from everything going on around him after the lightning strike and falling asleep on his couch in a matter of seconds :)

- Buck and Eddie’s dimly lit and wholesome kitchen conversation about the lightning strike & shooting all while Eddie was causally making sandwiches and doting on Buck

- The family dinner they had with Taylor, but it didn’t feel like she was even there/felt like an outsider

- Buck staying over to take care of Chris after Eddie got shot (making breakfast, sleeping on the couch, etc) even though Carla was available

- Buck breaking the news about Eddie to Chris, followed by him breaking down when he found out Eddie was okay

- Buck being there with Eddie while he was packing for his trip to Texas

- Eddie coming home to Buck after his date with Ana & them having a little debrief about Chris & Eddie telling Buck that he’s a miracle worker

- Eddie coming home to Buck helping Chris (without Chris actually being there) with his assignment about hearts (the assignment he misunderstood) & then fondly holding up both drawings

- Buck and Chris playing video games in the living when Eddie comes to turn them off. Then Chris trying to bargain with Buck to play at his home, followed by the co-parent exchange of looks between Eddie and Buck

- Buck telling maddie that “it’s Eddie’s house” and that he’s “not a guest”

- The time during Christmas when Hen and Eddie were talking about Christmas and their kids & the scene cut to Eddie fondly looking over/smiling at Chris and Buck making their little Christmas crafts

- Buck being the one to bring Eddie home to his surprise party after the hospital, opening the door for him, and fondly watching Eddie and Chris hug after all that time (all the while both of their girlfriends were in the background but really, not their at all)

- Buck trying to get Eddie to come back to the 118 & Eddie telling him to “move on because he has”

In Buck’s Home:

- THAT 3x09 kitchen scene (that was followed by the whole lawsuit and divorced husbands arc) with Buck apologizing and their fun little banter (while drinking beers)

- Eddie coming into Buck’s home (bc he has a key) to drag him out of bed and get him motivated again by forcing him to spend the day with Chris

- Eddie helping Chris with his homework at the dining table while Buck cooks them Bobby’s famous lasagna and the two talk about the couch :)

- Chris seeking refuge in buck and his place by going over after Eddie tells him about Ana

- Eddie, Buck, and Chris playing videos games in Buck’s living room and eddie saying that that’s “his kind of therapy”

- Eddie coming over to help Buck ice his black eye and giving him some advice (even though Buck’s gf exists at that point) about how Chim knows Maddie in a way he can’t understand (while drinking beers)

- Eddie talking to Buck about Chris’ skateboard situation (while drinking beers) -> (followed by buck coming up with a way for Chris to ride a skateboard)

- Buck and Chris making cookies for Chris’ class with Eddie no where in sight :)

- Eddie telling Buck there’s no one in the world he trusts more with his son, than him (after the tsunami) all while looking at him intensely in the eyes

- Buck’s voice over/the background song about coming home at the end of the tsunami episode followed by Eddie and Chris knocking at the door

- Buck, Eddie, & Chris chilling as a family, discussing Buck’s new powers at the dining table, while Chris does his homework (& while Eddie and Buck drink beers)

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I know this has been said before but I just wanted to appreciate the way Buck and Eddie exist in each other’s spaces/homes. It’s so different than any other platonic relationship on screen. We have them walking into each others spaces - no key needed. We’ve seen them have a number of casually domestic conversations while sitting in each others kitchens, living rooms, dining spaces, etc, sometimes just the two, and other times with Chris. We’ve had Buck in Eddie’s home without Eddie being present. Going off of that, we’ve had Eddie coming home to Buck just existing in his space. We’ve had Buck waiting for Eddie, engaging in some domestic activity (taking care of Chris), in Eddie’s home. And the thing I love about this is that it never feels like a favour. When Buck takes care of Chris - it never feels like he’s doing Eddie a favour and once Eddie’s home, that’s it. It’s done. That because Eddie’s home now, Buck can go. That it’s a once in a blue moon thing. It feels like they always exist like this. It feels easy and causal and like Buck just belongs there. Moving forward, we’ve also had them seek refugee in each others spaces. We’ve had them cook for each other in this once again, domestic, family dinner, non-dinner party, non-guest, sort of way. And, the wildest thing to me, we’ve had Buck outright establish how Eddie’s home is basically his home. This wasn’t something that needed to be stated. It wasn’t pivotal to the scene/episode it was mentioned in, but it was mentioned and it grounded their relationship as something different.

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