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"Might just be me but I don't know how so many people just automatically decided they already knew millie throwing up in sinsmas was a hint at her being pregnant- like if they say they realized after the reveal that it was a hint i don't have a problem but i have seen multiple people say they already knew right when millie threw up and it either just seems like flat out lies or the episode was way worse at hiding the hints of her pregnancy than when i first watched it. I assumed she vomited because she saw the angel decoration which i think was what they intended people to assume before the reveal? Though thinking about it more, it's barely on-screen for one second so yeah i can kind of see why the vomit wasn't that disguised of a hint now."
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How do you know if Joel Perez had been facing online harassment and death threats just for playing Valentino? Do you have any proof?
To clarify, I do not support or condone that type of behavior. However, it seems a bit far-fetched to assume otherwise, especially since I've mostly seen people praising him and expressing their love for both him and his character.
Valentino is very popular with the fanbase, and Joel has undoubtedly gained himself a cult following since becoming the voice of Vivziepop's precious little rapist.
I'm only asking because it seems too far-fetched to assume people have been misplacing their anger towards the fictional character onto the voice actor without any evidence to support that claim.
I couldn’t find any archives of any users telling Joel to end his life or kill himself. There multiple testimonials on Twitter that mention that they want the hate and harassment for Joel Perez to stop, along with mentioning that Joel and Valentino are two different people.


It got so bad that Vivziepop, herself responded. Spindlehorse has also created a collage of art for Joel Perez in appreciation of him. So, I can definitely believe he got death threats especially when he’s voice acting a rapist.
While yes, people have expressed love for Joel Perez such as fans creating a day called, “ValentinhoesRiseUp.” There are many people who have criticized his actions. For example, there was a Valentino and Angel Dust print with them in the booth. In classic Valentino style, he beats Angel Dust for not paying attention to him.
Joel Perez ends up arguing with a user regarding the print instead of ignoring them and later on turns off the comments. There are more screenshots but you get the idea.

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cool kitty kiwi compilation 🥝
🧷- for savety
cats are healer, want more?
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well looks like saiscribbles is gonna stream later today 06/25/25, in case anyone wants to say hi. or give her some critiques. or suffer through her bad takes lol
“Or give her some critiques.” Like she’s going to accept them with open arms 🤣.


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"No one hears me out on my crack ship of Mammon x Levi x Stella x Adam. But people should, it’s better than Stolitz and Huskerdust and Radioapple and like. 90% of all canon/fanon ships."
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Viv: it doesnt bother me when people make fun of my shows because theyre just using the same old jokes and they are nobodies at the end of the day dont give them attention
Also Viv, every time somebody does do this: *makes a post and several reply posts to it*
Listen, I love Hazbin and Helluva, but girlie needs to know when to just not feed the very people she claims doesn’t bother her😭
I really hope she deletes both her Bluesky and Twitter account(s). If Vivziepop only responded to the whole Ditigal Circus credit misinformation and moved on then that would be completely fine! People who have the same or similar in real life name as Vivziepop shouldn’t be harassed.

But no, she keeps going and going. Liking fans and stans tweets who obviously side with her, leading to both sides to enable each other and feel validated/vindicated. Which continues the cycle. It is very obvious how bothered she is.






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It's cringy but I worked really hard on it. Meow
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Jax Has Crossedressed More Times Than Angel Dust
Seriously pre-series a major party of his character was cross dressing, but we never seen him do it in season one which again makes me think that despite making him wear feminine stuff his crossdresser shenanigans have been downplayed. Kind of sad that a character that wasn't sold on it does it more than him.
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saw this cute post and now I'm not going on reddit for the rest of the day. quit while you're ahead
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It's him! Mr. Ant! Tenna.
(This model will be available for download as soon as I make a really badass trailer for it. Coming soon!)
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Jack Skelton is everything a Haz/Boss leading character could be
In Jack we have a have someone who decides he has work to do outside of his world. Sound familiar? He is in a position of power so he can get to work on his plans that nobody gets immediately. Sound familiar
Jack is charming, enthusiastic, nice enough and well loved, but on the flip side he is entitled, ignorant and very unpredictable. We see him go from someone bored and gloomy that nobody can get through to to having to overexcited, overbearing, tunnel visioned, toxic positive while threatening and determined to have his way once inspiration hit. Again, nobody could get through to him.
Did this harm him likability? Not really.
Accountability
Jack Skeleton from The Nightmare Before Christmas has his own thing going on but noticed something else he would rather be doing, something he knew nothing about, only had a kind of idea of how to execute it and would have to rope others on board. Again, sound familiar?
Take all above that describes Jack. Jack decides he will set aside being the pumpkin king and will be Santa instead, he's not going to simply phase Christmas into his culture, he's going to replace Santa on his own turf and who cares what Santa has to say about this, but at the same time he means Santa no harm, but at the same time he summon Santa by kidnap.
Jack listens to nobody and instantly gets to work making his vision happen. He achieves his goal of replacing Santa and handing out gifts that the people of his community would like, but the backlash is instant and a whole lot of heat is what he responded to.
We get a twisted moral compass from someone not of our world whose world was well established in a short time. Jack is allowed to be friendly and not set out to cause trouble yet be dense and entirely in the wrong with nobody else to blame as he brings trouble upon himself.
Blitzø reminds his scorned and petty ex that they live in hell, but what does this really mean, they're from there?
Casual murder is fine and anything goes, yet it all happens in a flash with extras, we never get enough time with moral greyness but decency and an understanding of it that we the audience are used to in the everyday is a default from characters who were never human? We know nothing of their culture.
HH Charlie is surrounded by former humans yet the tone is the same as HB, 'humanity' could be influential but who knows? Charlie knows what good is but we know nothing of her culture.
Anyway.
Blitzø also starts up a business that involves going into another world. Blitzø also directly screws over others, the humans he carries out hits on and if Charlie had anything about her, Charlie and the sinners she is trying to help. There hazbin no consequences for Blitzø's line of work or for crossing into territory he shouldn't which in this case was guarded.
There's no threat presented by those Blitzø slayed even though they have easy access to him. We are to assume business is going well even though the foundation is hardship and sacrifice, what could have been a major change of the book portal being replaced by the crystal portal has so far made no difference and again it's been long enough. Forget the tragic fire he accidentally caused being tackled with 'sorry but', the only 'accountability' of Blitzø's that actually matters is Stolas's upset
which is entirely not his fault.
Stolas was allowed to exploit his power and position to get what he wanted from Blitzø, allowed to be rude and dismissive to Millie and Moxxie and allowed to roughly handle 'little' imps, but upon catching some feeling the tables turn and his coercion and snotty actions are a thing of the past, not because he realized them on his own or because he got called out.
Charlie is just there. Good by default because she has done nothing wrong by doing nothing. Her toxic positivity doesn't come with a hint of malice or anyone submitting easily because of who she is, something she could take advantage of for the sake of her goal, Charlie also wants to see happiness, has tunnel vision and a lack of empathy but in her case it makes no difference because it's harmless and she wouldn't do anything that wasn't nice even accidentally as dense as she is. Her goal got nowhere.
Lucifer leads, supposedly, and that's that. He can have fun hobbies, be bored or 'depressed', have a child in a recent age for some reason and be revealed to have acess to heaven, but it all makes no difference to anything.
Other characters
Jack is central to everything and everyone has some involvement in his idea, a.k.a the plot
The nervy mayor needs his input
Sally, she crushes on him but is noting but rational, sensible and compassionate with an empathy unusual for the apparently inhuman townspeople, but she has a fun amount of toxic positivity about her too, choosing to spike prof Finkelstein and sneak out as he sleeps rather than disobey and speak up. Jack never listens to her
Santa who he crosses who realizes the lunacy in this new setting and who is decent, Sally, he's rightfully upset at all that happens but gets back to work clearing up Jack's mess and shows himself to be the bigger and better person by still showing kindness in wishing them all happy holidays
Lock, Shock and Barrel who double cross him, a trio of horrible little children who he clearly has some history with, as much as they taunt and lie to his face they hold a little fear of him, but their preference to Oogie surpasses that
Oogie, an infamous rival who is quick to jump in his throne and finds his new interest ridiculous
Blitzø
Loona seems to be comfortable and well looked after, there's no sign of her struggling since adoption despite their social class and Blitzø's drastic efforts to get the business going
Millie and Moxxie, Millie said they were behind on bills that one time and Moxxie criticized Blitzø's spending decision in the pilot
Charlie
Angledust is the character she hopes will show heaven that sinners can reform, he shows no interest in her, she barely interacts with him, doesn't tell him he's doing anything wrong and stays out of his business, he isn't interested her work or heaven
Vaggie who I needed to explicitly hear was her girlfriend. Same lack of interest in anything Charlie stands for. The angel backstory made no difference to any part of the main story or 20 different subplots
Setting
HH/HB the demon and undead filled seven rings of hell while NBC a small Halloween themed town inhabited by the undead and random others.
Nightmare's town is small enough for everyone to casually wonder around, know each other and get involved. The scenery is quaint, Victorian looking which is a particularly macabre time in history and go to for modern day gothic culture, there are cobbles, big iron gates and a very spacious cemetery. Organisation wise we see many creatives dispite the town being so modest, it gives the impression that this is a town the community built.
HH/HB is set in an entire big world which is fine, but we don't get to see much scenery of where the characters currently are, most of what we see looks typical of what we have in this modern world of cities being central, this is the case outside the district just for sinners. There isn't much community, we have a cannibal area but this may be the only thing the people there have in common and it's unclear if they're residents or not? Otherwise the setting isn't Blitzø's office or Charlie's big old hotel which we have had no look around.
Hierarchy
Jack lives in a small world, a little town that runs itself where his fame makes him somebody standout and important, he is famous and loved but also central to their whole economy. In this world Halloween is their leading holiday and each day after is a lead up to the next, celebrating Halloween is a collective purpose. Jack is 'The pumpkin king', the main attraction of the Halloween festival who puts on a show and is celebrated by everyone, Halloween and its star being the only thing that have is why the mayor's constantly at his side and why he has engineers and all sorts who can get a job done on call. Because this is just a little town that runs itself, he can be the most famous person around, a leader, a casual on the street or someone others wish to screw over.
HH/HB gives us a large world with whole pyramid system that is near impossible to scale, since those at the top consist of fallen angels, humans who existed when hell was becoming a thing and cherry picking of who makes it into heaven who for all we know sit at a pyramid too? Towards the middle in society are former humans who like the angels have no lifespan and believe that they can level up, head towards the bottom are those that were born in hell, poverty is a default, (somehow we have crime in hell?) imps dependent on hustle and thuggery to get by and hellhounds who are also kept like pets having just as few opportunities, get old and die.
Take all this information and apply it to our leading characters.
Charlie the princess of hell, daughter of this worlds creator gets walked over in her show not because people are taking advantage of her but because she doesn't matter. She can walk around and nobody knows who she is and when they find out, what difference does it make, she's as insignificant as her dad, yet the spinoff cleaned itself up a little and told us that there is order and in exile you're fair game, so does this not contradict their shitty treatment?
Blitzø, a lonely imp who lives somewhere where crossing paths with royalty is easy no matter how destitute you are, is the big bad who holds a position of power because the prince who caught him stealing and cornered him into sex caught some feelings down the line. Said prince is in temporary exile and slumming it with an imp, but other characters at the top casual hang out with and date at the bottom, no issue at all with these power scale relationships or sharing in what the powerful have.
Power structure and the power it offers, poverty, snobbery and ignorance were established but are widely ignored for the sake of making certain characters more likeable. Has it affected their popularity? Most probably.
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