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Vincent in the backrooms

Vincent in the backrooms

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vincent nightray pt. 2

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happy alice day

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Like i have seen few people acknowledge that vincent. Doesn't actually have any sort of meaningful power over gil

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obbbb ob god onbbbb

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How chapter 30 went

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guys i think there is a bird in his mouth idk

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jack vessalius pt. 2

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magma doodles from tonite

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feel free to explain in the notes

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gluttonous beast

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Like lacie being kind and loving while also being suicidal isn't. Contradictory. There are many cases of people experiencing suicidal ideation BECAUSE they are kind and loving.

Another thing I wanted to talk about is that ph isn't unkind to suicidal people. When it comes to conversations of self sacrifice and suicide in ph people most commonly bring up elliot's speech. And it makes sense! It's a pretty impactful scene and a turning point for Oz. But also consider that there are different types of suicide and different reasons for it. Not everyone who commits does so out of the same exact reason.

In Oz's case, in the past, that reason was relatively selfish. He desired self sacrifice and the "virtue" that came with it. I'm not critiquing Oz for this, while it is a flawed outlook, Oz is an abused teenager.

Elliot's speech isn't without flaw either. He himself commits suicide. And the narrative does not treat this scene with contempt. Elliot is not being looked down upon, outside of his own reflection on the irony.

See this: Elliot was going to die regardless of what happened. He was going to be killed. His options were Vincent or Oz. Who did he want to be killed by?

Later on Vincent says "I wouldn't have minded shouldering that burden for you." so my main point with this is that both of the potential executioners immensely cared about Elliot. Killing him would impact them greatly. Elliot chooses to end his own life to spare them this outcome. His sacrifice comes from a place of caring about others.

Another very impactful self sacrifice was Alice. Now my question; does the narrative condemn Alice? Does it attempt to portray her as selfish or cruel? In my opinion, no. Throughout the whole story(disregarding some misoginy that happened with her writing), Alice's life is narrated with kindness and love. The story loves Alice. It does not shame her decision or portray it as evil.

Alice's suicide comes from a loving desire: to protect her sister and friend, as well as herself. By death she escapes a worse fate. I'm not saying that Alice killing herself was like, the pinnacle of morality. I'm saying it's the only thing she could have done.

Do these panels show any sort of disdain for Alice?

Most of the deaths in Pandora Hearts are self sacrifice. Were all those deaths scrutinized, PH would not be half as a caring narrative as it is.(this is a severely debated topic, but I do truly believe that PH is a loving story)

Now onto Lace, the one I wanted to talk about.

Whether or not Lacie was suicidal is debatable. I can't think of any confirmation, and she does outright say she doesn't want to die right before her execution. But like, even if I don't think she was, if you believed she was I wouldn't fight you over it.

Lacie was forced to die. She was set to do so courtesy of being a Child of Ill Omen. Although recently I saw a very compelling analysis, that provided some insight into Lacie'a thoughts.

Lacie also says, as a child, "Does that mean that she won't be alone anymore?" in reference to her execution and The Core of the Abyss. Lacie walked to her death, wishing to help her dear friend.

When the characters go back in time, Lacie sees them, and says "I'm sorry." to Oswald. She connected the dots and probably realized what happened, or most of it. She realised all that transpired after her death, and apologized to her brother for screwing him over.

(It was NOT Lacie's fault that she was killed. The blame falls on Glen and the Jury. However, she made a conscious decision to not run away in order to help the core)

But either way, Pandora Hearts is incredibly kind to characters who experience suicidal ideation and mental illness. That Lacie might have experienced those things does not make her unsympathethic or make her love for the world contradictory

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Good vincent pfp

Ty goat

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yayyy him :3

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(retrace 4 redraw… kinda)

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his greed sickens me

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post pandora hearts when they least expect it