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not someone defending Blaire White in my notes

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Like i said before I'm collecting accusations against Viv and since I couldn't find a clean post here's the Blaire White thing:

Vivziepop drew this

Was confronted about it on twitter and said this

And apologized for it here

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Full disclosure, I'm not a queer man, but even I know that portraying every single queer male as a sex obsessed twink is not only harmful, but it also showcases just how much of a terrible writer Viv actually is.

She truly believes that crude sex jokes are the pinnacle of comedy, and that sex is the only thing queer men care about.

It’s like an ecchi anime author saying something along the lines of “Oh no, my work is totally progressive. Sure, all the female characters are hyper sexualized, but it’s meant to be empowering!”

Also, the characters being sex obsessed isn’t treated as a flaw in universe. I mean, you could argue that Chaz sleeping with Blizo lead to his downfall, but that felt more like a deus ex machina than a legitimate character flaw.

I’d have way more respect for Viv is she admitted that she just wanted to watch her edgy OC’s fuck in an animated format.

Trying to pretend that Hazbin/Helluva are these progressive forward thinking masterpieces is just pathetic.

And oh yeah, I find it hilarious that Viv is trying to paint her critics as homophobes, when she has no issue with talking shit about trans men on Discord.

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Is there a link to this cat-calling comic?

I've heard it mentioned pretty often, but never really saw it before, but even so, Viv failing to understand how gross cat-calling is sounds pretty believable.

Here be.

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Viv also has Dark_Crowl working on HB in boarding. She currently lives in Georgia (the country), but is a Russian who was working *in* Russia while also working on HB, while there are active Sanctions going on against Russia. While Sanctions technically have no legal recourse against corporations hiring freelance individuals (as opposed to hiring through companies, which is extremely illegal), it's still an extremely scummy move for corporations to employ. Not to mention that Georgia's government is extremely cooperative with Russia's in filtering taxes earned by Russians back into Russia, so her living there really doesn't change much on just where her taxes go (this is a common way Russians try to circumvent the Sanctions).

In the wake of this Ukraine/Russia debacle, Dark tweeted "I just wanna thank Viv for hiring ppl on the studio regardless of their nationalities, gender, sexuality and etc. I don't know where I could've been right now without her and SH And I'm so very grateful that at least in this community I'm not hated for just existing." https://twitter.com/Dark_Crowl/status/1704589043885871163 It's very nice that she can afford to hide in another country and avoid trouble while her taxes on those SH earnings went to destroying someone else's apartment, someone's hospital, someone's school. How grateful that she gets a community, while other people hide in terror and burry themselves unground to avoid the horrific trauma the soldiers above ground will enact on them if they come up. That's such a tone-deaf way to look at it, and tone-deaf seems to be the word of the year for SH.

DaniDraws is calling it xenophobia against Russians, https://twitter.com/DaniDraws666/status/1704523131614843294 but completely ignores the fact that Viv's studio is circumventing sanctions, probably because Russian labour is cheaper than American labour and she doesn't care of the taxes earned off that cheaper labour goes into firing missiles at civilian buildings. I don't think that she necessarily even supports Russia, I think she's just ignorant to literally anything outside of her own goals, including how *when you pay Russians living in Russia, they get taxed and it goes into lobbing more missiles at civilians*.

TL;DR: someone doesn't deserve hate just for being ethnically Russian, but if your studio is circumventing Sanctions in order to take advantage of cheaper labour and is paying Russians living in Russia or Georgia, then congrats - you're funding missile strikes on Ukrainian civilians, they have a right to be mad. It's not xenophobia, it's common empathy and awareness for things outside of your own little fantasy red demon zone. Someone else pointed this situation out to me like a year back when they first noticed, and I never bothered bringing it up because I didn't think it needed to be said. But if people like Dani want to get on a high horse about exploiting cheap labour around Sanctions, then more attention should be brought to the fact that they're doing just that.

Too fucking right it should. Thanks for the info, and for helping bring said attention.

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So... this just went down on twitter with Viv 😶

So Viv qrted this art of a Russian artist.

So this person Storkart28 looked into Katya's account and saw their retweets, and the tweets speak for themselves:

These are just examples the original thread is here of Storkart28 for more retweets from Katya's account

Cw for n*zi imagery below:

Now I saw this go down and 1st thought to myself that Viv wouldn't know. She just liked this cute animation by a fan and didn't scan Katya's account obviously, Viv is not at fault.

Kicker is Viv by the looks of it saw this person's call out post and Viv Blocked them (I translated their block picture)

Now Viv made this qrt 3 days ago and in the past 5 hours or so people started calling Viv out. She hasn't responded by deleting her post or any (and people are very vocal now Viv should see the notifications not to mention she blocked the person who called her out).

The bootlickers are here too (Sorry but Elcee_Rod 💀 up there with redthespian, stfu)

Anyway, yeah thats the situation. Its not looking good for Viv especially how she responded by blocking and not responding at all.

Any thoughts on this, link to thread is there for anyone to look at.

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Not the least bit surprised to find out that a Pro-Russia artist is a fan of Viv’s shows.

Viv’s shows have this tendency to attract some of the worst people imaginable, because Viv is an objectively terrible individual with little to no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Sure, you could argue that she didn’t know that the artist in question was a Pro-Russian invasion scumbag, but the fact that she blocked the person who pointed this out on Twitter tells you all you need to know.

So yeah, instead of taking accountability and saying “Sorry guys, I fucked up, I didn’t know the account I QRT’d was a Pro-Russian invasion account.” Viv is just gonna stick her head in the sand and scream “Can’t hear you!”

This woman is her thirties, she’s not some teenager who’s getting bullied over nonsense, she should know better.

And of course, the fanbase is currently defending Viv on Twitter, because fuck forbid any one of them grow a spine and call Viv out on her shit, am I right?

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its practically an open secret that the creator of hazbin hotel/helluva boss sucks. i know artists who are familiar with viv's abusive behavior that are too scared to do anything because she can simply namedrop them and they'll be chased off of ANY website.

she blacklists people, she bullies people, she intimidates people, she's incredibly insecure and entitled. wanna know why most people who try to come out about viv's abuse tend to go silent? because she sends lawyers after them. I've seen leaked logs of what Viv is really like, she sucks, a whole lot actually.

I knew she sucked when she gave out that incredibly embarrassing "apology" where she plays victim, deflects blame, lovebombs her audience and doesn't acknowledge her more horrific behavior and zones in on minor instances like being a fan of blaire white (and funnily enough couldn't even be honest and admit she liked her! she had to pretend she was only a fan because she was "scared during political unrest")

vivziepop is an anti feminist. flat out despises women and worships men (but only if they're cis). she calls women she hates "bitches" and "cunts" and it bleeds into her incredibly misogynistic humor and writing. she's made comics defending catcalling women and transphobic caricatures of people she dislikes. she thinks trans men are "women with internalized misogyny". she makes man-hating female characters who are friendless losers that nobody likes, but her women-hating men are her personal favorite characters.

she treats her friends as people she can use and discard. she's great if she likes you, horrible if she doesn't. despite being familiar with how traumatizing cyberstalking and cyberbullying is, she weaponizes it against people she dislikes by playing victim. the scott cawthon incident was simply vivzie's mask off moment. she loves seeing people she hates suffer, she loves seeing them deal with mass criticism and backlash, even better if they're chased off the platform forever.

she thinks everyone who critiques her work are homophobic bigots because she doesn't like being told off for her incredibly embarrassing caricatures of queer men. she can't draw black people. she wrote an effeminate queer man with sexual trauma that she constantly sexualizes and makes a mockery of. her lead animator has a "rape ship" and an animatic to go with it that she approves of. she's threatened by redesigns because they're done by artists why have a basic grasp of character design and unironically thinks they're only done to attack the crew (and refuses to stand against fan harassment because of it).

and also her design of beelzebub is still goddamn horrendous.

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Just because Viv is a horrible person doesn’t mean that you should automatically believe every negative Twitter story about her.

Unless the source is someone who worked at SpindleHorse, then you should always be skeptical of every Twitter story regarding things that may or may not have happened.

As far as I know, Viv was never blacklisted from the industry, nor is she that involved with anyone outside her inner circle.

Also, blaming her for drama that she wasn’t directly involved in is kind of a dead giveaway that a person is just making shit up for attention.

Viv sucks, but don’t just sit there and believe every single negative thing people say about her online.

If a person isn’t providing decent enough evidence to back up their claims, then they’re full of shit as far as I’m concerned.

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While I'm at it I'll put the Addison thing here as well since I don't like the posts about it

This old accusation was about the depiction of Vivzie's Zoophobia character Addison drawn in NSFW situations despite being under-aged

It is worth mentioning they are visibly quite old if you're familiar with her artwork

On twitter Vivzie confirms he is a minor, in the comic he is specified to be small and young looking

And again she apologizes for it here

EDIT: Apparently I missed these two and they fit together with Addison since this is all Zoophobia so-

Damian's caretaker Styx fantasizing about him and Viv presumably joking about Mirage but the joke is concerning given the rest of this artwork

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Like i said before I'm collecting accusations against Viv and since I couldn't find a clean post here's the Blaire White thing:

Vivziepop drew this

Was confronted about it on twitter and said this

And apologized for it here

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We can pin a lot of other stuff on Vivienne Medrano( also Kp misspells screen name, it's vivziepop. ) without believing what Kp is saying about a former volunteer on her Team Kp that was not paid for his animations. She leaves out that Micheal was 16 years old at the time that he ran AnonKpLeaks. And that a lot of time has past since Micheal is not 18 or older.

Before you ask, The doxing that Kp is talking about is Micheal accidentally showing Kp's IP address. And no this can not be used to find her real address.

She went from saying he caused her PTSD to calling him an abuser...for running a Twitter that brought to light how she mishandled her team of unpaid volunteers.

How she got mad at the animator for not working on a project and instead staying by his mother's side while she stayed in a hospital.

YES REALLY.

How she mistreated Wubbcake ( Yes, i know about the allegations against Wubcake, but this isn't about that) and called Wubbcake ugly.

Kp's association with the known terrible person Lily Orchard is something that you should all be aware of. Lily helped spread this misinformation to her vitriolic fanbase. Micheal's twitter has not been active since August, likely because of harassment from Lily or Kp's fans.

He was 16 when the Anon Kp Leaks thing happened and is currently 22 years old. Just to give you as scope of how long Kp has held onto this campaign to get Micheal fired from Spindlehorse over a twitter account that was deleted.

The reason that Kp's emails to Spindlehorse were ignored is because the evidence that Kp has about Micheal is so old and likely not concise enough to get him in trouble.

What Kp calls a hate campaign was Micheal and former Team Kp members talking about their mistreatment by Kp publically.

Them airing out what KP did is what forced Kp to improve as a person and treat her staff better.

That's what kp is calling a Hate Campaign.

I'm not downplaying any harm caused by the MLP fandom as a whole turning and going after Kp. A lot of 'horse famous ' people didn't like KP and were happy to go after her with fake stories. The Mob mentality of the Mlp fandom is not a 16 year old boys fault.

Also, worth noting that Micheal apologized to Kp multiple times in emails and publically on a now-deleted video that had his face on it. ( likely why he deleted it was to prevent harassment. )

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Honestly we should never let the sausage party thing go

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Anonymous submission.

Vivziepop’s alternate account for fan art was called bustednozz or Nozz for short. She made it specifically to do fan art for Sausage Party (2016). You can find some of her fan art on her main blog, but a lot of it was posted as Nozz instead. Receipts here show the similar typing style, art style, hand writing, and signature.  Vivziepop’s oc for Sausage Party is the candy cane in the last image, a masochistic twink that she ships with a Dr. Mengele spin off. I don’t know why somebody would want to ship their character with Dr. Mengele, a nazi scientist who experimented on human test subjects for his own sick satisfaction. Remember that when Sausage Party came out, she was 24, so she cannot claim that she was “just a stupid teenager” like in her apology post.

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(WARNING SENSITIVE INFO WILL BE DISCUSSED OR GIVEN. IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE INFO REGARDING SELF-HARM OR BULLYING I’D ADVISE YOU NOT TO READ ON. VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED)

Hello, everyone, I’d like to share somethings that have urked me and outright surprise me when getting deeper and deeper into this whole shebang cause honestly, this is too much to NOT notice. If you’re wondering what I am talking about I am referring to all the stuff I found out about Viv and the fact that she never truly seemed sorry for what she’s done to said people based on what I have found out and what she’s said in recent years.

Now you all may say “G, she said she’s sorry and that’s that. Don’t bring up things that happened years ago or have been resolved.” and look, man, I’d leave it alone if it was CLEAR that she was truly a person of her word, wasn’t a hypocrite, and didn’t cause 3 people to be suicidal and cause/know of witchhunts that she KNOWS happened and/or wanted to happen. You guys can like her all you want and defend her, but be sure they are good defenses, understand WHERE I am coming from, and be mindful of what I am saying. Don’t just ignore everything she did just cause you THINK she’s super nice or because she’s your idol.

I will also emphasize that I wish for NO ONE to send any unnecessary hate or anything of the like to Viv. You don’t stoop to someone else’s level just cause they did some bad crap. I just wanted to say any of this, loud and clear, cause its straight facts that shouldn’t be buried just cause she wants to hold onto her image the best she can. That isn’t at all fair to those victims who have been wronged and had their names tainted over her destructive and mean-spirited hypocritical behavior. AGAIN DO NOT ATTACK VIV AND DON’T THINK ME CALLING HER OUT IS A REASON TO HATE HER. We can be better than her in terms of handling things. Do not also think me calling her out shouldn’t have been done JUST CAUSE you don’t wanna hear it or not. If you don’t wanna see it, you don’t have to read it.

with that being said, LET’S DISSECT.

 S T A R V A D E R

First I have to start off relaying to you guys what Starvader had stated at the beginning of the document so you’ll get a jist of why she even spoke up in the first place. 

 "I type this document with no malicious intent only my personal thoughts on how I feel recently about the situation since its been on my mind well every day now since 2013. At least five years I’ve had thoughts below as to my personal experience of meeting an ex idol and why sometimes meeting your idol isn’t the best approach. For me, that ex idol is Vivienne Medrano creator of Zoophobia and Hazbin Hotel. I’m not aiming to defame this creator nor do I think people should stop liking their work or stop supporting them. If you like their work there is nothing wrong with that but I will refuse to silence myself any longer due to how much this rarely leaves my mind and tends to come up. This has been a situation swept under the rug and most would probably state ‘ well why are you bringing all this up now it was so and so years ago you guys squashed this etc etc “ that being the case, sorry doesn’t fix emotional trauma that comes up frequently during depressive episodes and comments do tend to stick to people in a certain way. Apology or not, words have a heavy weight to them.“

I put this here even though I will be putting a link to her doc because people will most likely not read or press the link and just act as if Starvader wanted blood. No, she stated her mind and was clear when saying she wanted no harm done to Viv.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRX8VEoTS7Xot7D9u5i7MMEgtT44mNEtgpl4FY7QDZCA7ZY2j-CTJF7Uw_JwSJ6WUQNVvaTQv60Igte/pub

In this link It tells anyone who comes across it what she and some others mentioned here had to go through when being compared by Viv, wanting to do what’s right and still being “called out” and bullied while getting hate sent to them, and having been told how her dreams would never ever be achieved and that she should practically give up, how she put friends against one another, etc. It showcases screenshots of these examples. 

It all began with the accusation of art theft. The very thing she played the victim in with someone else. I’m sure some of you old-time fans of Viv know who this person was and are aware of the beef they had with one another. After reading Starvader’s Doc, I want you to look at the post Vivziepop made to defame someone known as 

  D O L L C R E E P

This may be a throwback to you and you all may have thought this person was abusive. I won’t say that they did absolutely nothing wrong since they themselves have said they did some wrong in the situation, but I will say that one was more of a problem starter than the other. 

http://web.archive.org/web/20151008172207/http://enoughisenough-dollcreep.tumblr.com/post/125101370456/my-experience-with-dollcreep

Notice in this post that the very things she did to Starvader she said DollCreep did to her and how she tries and paint DollCreep as this SEVERELY abusive person. Hell even in Starvader’s document you’ll see that DollCreep told SV that he talked with Viv about the whole thing regarding SV and Viv and she apparently listened at the time. Not to mention that the screenshots Viv put in that post were either take(very possibly) taken out of context or not even bad to begin with (though his reply about the face thing was odd and shouldn’t have been addressed b but due to circumstances, I think that’s why he was so cautious). I don’t know DC like that, but this kinda makes me feel as though he wasn’t a bad person Viv makes him out to be and more her trying to destroy his image ENTIRELY for her benefit, cause till this very day she still calls him an abuser and someone she doesn’t want to meet again. 

if you continue on into the post she made, you’ll see that she has made characters, EERILY SIMILAR to DC’s, some WAY MORE than others. SV was willing to change some of the designs and even wanted to stop, Viv, however, seemed to take great offense over such an accusation and took to social media to make her frustrations known. SV kept this hidden from 2013 to 2018.

Oh btw, if you read the doc you’ll see that SV wanted to commit suicide. DC actually attempted it. The cyberbullying ran that deep and it ANGERS me.

here’s what someone who saw the sitch had to say.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170619163024/http://dcs-personal-blog.tumblr.com/

can find everything here regarding what DC said about the sitch. You guys DO NOT ATTEMPT TO HURT THIS PERSON. It actually pisses me off that people even attacked DC and blindly believed Viv. It’s Johnny Depp’s situation all freaking over again

Here’s the picture of Viv saying that he was abusive, completely ignoring her behavior, and knowing hate would be sent to DC. Again won’t say that DC was completely innocent but damn man, was this necessary? DC even said that they talked it out and everything 

https://vivziepop.tumblr.com/post/179705403534/im-only-going-to-say-this-once

Don’t even get me started on the whole character credit fiasco that Viv refused to properly fix.

https://krieg-was-taken.tumblr.com/post/101438542866/dollcreep-kibadoglover45-dollcreep-even

Look at this as well.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200104224648/https://tyacutie123.tumblr.com/post/125800399071/beware-of-abusive-artist

it mentions SV again, but it also brings into light a parody character meant to mock DC during all of this drama. 

https://killapunk.tumblr.com/post/125896144245/dcs-personal-blog-enoughisenough-dollcreep/amp

DollCreep does the same thing back and is treated like the enemy. Hypocrisy at its finest.

now, most of you guys will be saying that this all happened in the past. It’s over, some will say, She’s changed (some of you may even say that these people deserve it. Yes people actually have said stuff like this to me or others) but here’s the problem, She still pulls crap like this to ruin people or to make others feel stupid. Just last year she was laughing with JaneGumball (who APPARENTLY made up with the victim) saying that she deserves it for being rude when the girl just said her opinion and was still a fan of Viv at the time, meaning she didn’t even mean to hurt Viv’s feelings and, hear me out, even if she did WHY FIND HER CYBERBULLYING FUNNY AND JUSTIFIED OVER AN OPINION? What sort of logic is that? That’s GREATLY immature and unnecessary, especially for someone her age (She’s 27 or 28 guys while the victim was 15, come on man!)

 and I’m sure some of you know what happened with the person who made a meme regarding HH and other animated cartoons.

She’s VERY MUCH AWARE THAT THEY WERE ATTACKED….and this is how she responds….wow O K A Y.

So no, she didn’t actually change because she most likely didn’t think she had to. People kept supporting her thus making her believe that what she did was correct. Oh and Faust is practically Viv as well. (As seen by the SV doc and this tweet thread)

https://twitter.com/melonbea/status/1206994000563068930?s=19

Hell Viv seemed to ignore this too, as well as a lot of shipping drama if it involves a specific ship, but I won’t delve too deep into that subject since I am not very aware of the things that go down in that side of the fandom. 

and there’s this 

https://afraidofmonsters-headcanons.tumblr.com/post/188662798256/so-lets-talk-about-this-blog-the-fandom-and-viv

and this

https://historia-kq.tumblr.com/post/190882421127

I’d advise you guys to hear these things out. 

Oh and Viv is the type to be a Hypocrite regularly,

https://twitter.com/VivziePop/status/613097846603026433?s=19

I could send you all the screenshots of her tweets but that should be another post on its own cause THERE IS A LOT. Like her Cancel Culture tweet, that tweet where she said, and I quote, “The hypocrisy is strong” back in 2014, November 29th. That time she had a thread of tweets saying, and I quote “never let someone dictate your value as an artist! Never seek the approval of someone else and conform to what they say you should do!” Despite doing this to StarVader.

If you guys want screenshots I can either personally DM or make a post showing her hypocrisy. Cause honestly this is rather, dare I say it, TOXIC. She’s manipulated people and has used them when they don’t abide by her rules or make a mistake that could have been resolved privately, she attacks and it’s saddening. I am TIRED of people getting hurt by her and I am tired of her abusing her power. If she wants to change I am COMPLETELY DOWN for that, but change starts when you want it. You can’t say sorry and expect people not to see past the lies or see that you obviously didn’t change. Sorry should mean what it means, feeling regret or penitence, but if you don’t at all exhibit these things then how are we supposed to believe that you are at all sorry for anything you’ve done currently AND in the past? I mean damn dude did you guys even know what happened to the cosplayer that Viv was mad about?

https://boricua-moonbakery.tumblr.com/post/616407364553310208

Now look, if you like Viv’s content, that’s your choice. I for one very much do like some fan content that i’ve stumbled onto and find some very creative and my cup of tea and while I’m not a huge fan of HH I still very much find the premise very creative. What I do if a creator of something is majorly sketch or strange I simply seperateb the content from the creator. I simply wanted to point out things many peeps don’t know about and any person who is a fan of Viv, I hope you’d at least understand WHY I am at all saying anything I am saying. I want there to be justice but I want things to be fair. I don’t want Viv to get hurt, but I want her to actually learn from her mistakes. I am not here to discourage you from anything, it’s your choice if you choose to stay and I will not judge you for it. I am a girl who SIMPLY wants people to be more aware of who exactly Vivienne Medrano is. She’s mistreated both fans of HH and ZP and it boggles me.

If you guys want more info, like her tweets that I mentioned, just message me.

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Combining this with Kyra's comic suspected to be about Viv

Jesus Christ Viv. Basically Erin Frost came out with more stuff, and Kat responded by also posting some evidence of her situation with Viv. Honestly if y’all want to dive more into the situation, I suggest their twitters, be my guest. I’m not really going to post anything else regarding this stuff, but I had to show this because I did think it was interesting. However I have no desire to speak on the subject anymore. This studio is just a mess with all its drama wether Viv is in the right or wrong, and I’m personally just done with all of it. Honestly wether Viv is in the right or not regarding the ENTIRE Erin Frost drama or not, she’s still a horrible person in my eyes regardless, so….yeah.

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I apologize if this has been posted before I simply wanted to combine Vivienne's legal threat with Kedi's clarification. Thank you Chai for being lovely