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Friendly reminder at this point that my German!Luke AU is an open AU. Meaning everyone is more than free to contribute or use it as they want. The only thing I ask of you is to keep to the baseline of the AU lore and tag it with the correct AU tag 💕

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If you ever feel dumb remember that there's a pretty high chance that there are more than a few monsters who were killed by German!Luke wearing THIS drip 'cause they decided to come after him during some cultural festival event thingy:

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The reason Luke in my German!Luke AU seems almost unreasonably attached to Germany and "his homeland" as a concept is because he has an unhealthy asocation of safety with it. Full stop. Luke's relationship to the nation of Germany is a trauma response in the same way his violent tendencies were in canon.

Luke, up until six years of age, was brought up by May like he was in canon. The only diffrence being their physical location really. As such Luke still carries trauma and hurt from the years of negelect he had to go through. When the German authorities managed to notice that something was wrong due to Luke not having been enrolled in school, and thus removed him from May's care, Luke percieved them as a saviour almost. Which is where the whole thing started of the two concepts started.

This asociation between the German authorities, aka, the German state and safety only proceeded to worsen as Luke aged and came to camp Halfblood. He still dislikes the gods and does not enjoy being at camp Halfblood due to the proximity to them there. Even ignoring the widespread issues of the Hermes cabin alone and not mentioning the training Luke would have to go through. This combined with his failed quest and thus the consequences of that only served to alianate Luke further.

Here, Germany stands in stark contrast to CHB in Luke's mind. Due to the fact that the gods and most mythical beings beings are located in America, this leaves the rest of the world ignored by them. As such Luke had pretty much as much freedom as a demigod can get and also lived a relativley normal life outside the US. To him Germany was a sanctuary from the troubles and issues he had to deal with in CHB. Combine this with the saviour role German authorities took in his mind by saving him from the living situation with May and what you get is a deeply unhealthy relationship with your own nationality.

Luke loves his home no doubt, and there is nothing with that at all. And neither does his love blind him towards issues and problems of the nation. However it would be wrong to say that the relationship between the two is completly normal and healthy, and there is most deffinitly an unhealthy element in Luke's perception of his home.

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I'm gonna take this as encouragment to talk more about it.

Mind you Percy is never going to get over Luke in my German!Luke AU. Like. That man was already haunting both the narrative and Percy himself in canon, but it's even worse in the German Luke AU for no other reason than his death being a million times worse for those involved.

Cause, like- the canon events were bad enough already. And at that point Luke had spent the past five years as anenemy to Percy for the most part. Now imagine all of that but instead of an enemy, Luke was an ally.

Despite very vocally not wanting to be there, German!Luke was a steadfast support and aid to Percy. He came when he was called, so when the war against Kronos broke out Percy specifically requested his aid.

Only for Luke to end up bleeding out on the floor of Olympus, begging Percy to return his body back to Germany. Knowing that, due to the nature of his death (being stabbed by Kronos' scythe) his soul too would be destroyed.

Had Percy not asked Luke to help them, he would have stayed in Germany and probably survived. And everyone there knows that. And as though that didn't make Percy feel shitty enough already, he couldn't even return the body back to Germany like Luke requested due to the fates taking it.

Seriously Percy is straight up going through a depression era. He's never getting rid of Luke. That man haunted him in canon and haunts him even more now.

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Mind you Percy is never going to get over Luke in my German!Luke AU. Like. That man was already haunting both the narrative and Percy himself in canon, but it's even worse in the German Luke AU for no other reason than his death being a million times worse for those involved.

Cause, like- the canon events were bad enough already. And at that point Luke had spent the past five years as anenemy to Percy for the most part. Now imagine all of that but instead of an enemy, Luke was an ally.

Despite very vocally not wanting to be there, German!Luke was a steadfast support and aid to Percy. He came when he was called, so when the war against Kronos broke out Percy specifically requested his aid.

Only for Luke to end up bleeding out on the floor of Olympus, begging Percy to return his body back to Germany. Knowing that, due to the nature of his death (being stabbed by Kronos' scythe) his soul too would be destroyed.

Had Percy not asked Luke to help them, he would have stayed in Germany and probably survived. And everyone there knows that. And as though that didn't make Percy feel shitty enough already, he couldn't even return the body back to Germany like Luke requested due to the fates taking it.

Seriously Percy is straight up going through a depression era. He's never getting rid of Luke. That man haunted him in canon and haunts him even more now.

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Just saw someone list Percy in a "best representaion of _____ in media" under the 'The Chosen One' category and.....

.....people do know that Percy isn't the chosen one, right? Like Percy never once was a chosen one if we go by the popular assumption of chosen by a prophecy. Luke was the Hero of the Great Prophecy, and thus technically 'The Chosen One'. And for Gaia there were seven demigods listed, so there wasn't even a "Chosen One" mentioned.

Seriously PJO fans need to read their own books wtf.

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I feel like we deserve happy Luke head cannons, so I typed into a head cannon generator and the first thing that came up was-

‘Luke Castellan secretly enjoys watching animals doing dumb things’

The second one was ‘Luke Castellan has insomnia’.

And ya know what, I think both of those make perfect sense and are very true.

......I do not want to be mean, but due to ethical concerns, I refuse to engage with anything AI-generated. This includes things such as ai art aswell as text programms such as chat gbt. Now I am not sure what kind of headcanon generator you used, however in my personal experience these things more and more commonly start using AI.

As such I refuse to engage with this ask and I refuse to answer it. You are more than welcome to ask again with a topic or headcanons that are not AI. Or ask the same ask while providing the headcanon generator in question, so I can make sure it doesn't use AI.

I am sorry if I am comming of as mean, please know that this is not my intention. The reason I reject AI is the fact that it cannot fit with my personal morals, and even ignoring that the fact that I am friends with multible artists. And as such I refuse to support a thing that activley threatens them and their craft.

This is no attack on you, however I will state it here officaly.

I will not answer, and from now on even engage, with any ask including AI.

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He never once canonically did anything to Silena. The only thing we know about is that she "found him charming", that's all. We have no info on him or what Luke did nor what his thougths are. If anything, all we know is what Silena thought of him.

Just because a teenager finds an older guy charming or even hot doesn't mean that guy is a pedo. Otherwise pretty much every male celebrity would be considered a pedophile, seeing how many thirst edits horny teenagers make for them.

Oh and before you wanna come at me with the grooming allegations:

Number 1: We do not have any book proof of that. Again, all we know is that Silena found Luke charming. That is not an information about what Luke did, but about what Silena thought of him. For all we know the guy had no idea she even liked him that way, because we do not know it.

Number 2: Grooming describes a long-term manipulation technique where an adult builts up a relationship with a child and gets them to trust him and/or see him as a friend, inorder to get something from the child. Luke could not have groomed Silena into joining the TA, because he frankly said didn't have the time even if we wanted to. We know Luke recieved Backbiter as a gift of sorts upon swearing loyalty to Kronos, he calls it a "new toy" during his confrontation with Percy. Thus we know that he couldn't have had it for that long- him stealing the lightning bolt was most certainly the first thing Luke ever did for Kronos. The guy then left CHB on the summer solstice for good. That leaves him roughly half a year, and even ignoring the countless other things he would have to do. That is not enough time to groom someone. ESPECIALLY since at that point he and Silena most certainly knew eachother for a while.

And last but not least, Number 3: Luke did not specifically seek Silena out. He probably met her by accident during camp because they were both there at the time. Luke never once sook her out. If anything he manipulated her at most, not groomed her.

So yeah, sorry not sorry but you're basically peddling baseless headcanons here. Hope I could answer your question tho.

“luke’s not a pedophiple because when he asked annabeth if she loved him he didn’t mean romantically!!!!”

what about silena

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There's no cope greater than that of the PJO fandom having to come to terms with the fact that their fav just...isn't as perfect as they thought he was.

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I just realized Percy fans would be a lot tamer and less insufferable if this fanbase collectively called them out on their bullshit. *drops mic and sprints for cover*

You see, the issue is:

Most of the fanbase IS a Percy fan. They aren't called out because most people are in on it.

It's what happens with a self-insert protag whose image is twisted by years of nostalgia and headcanons.

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Sorry for the rant (again 😅) but personally, I can't help but be taken aback everytime someone pushes the narrative that Percy is some genius or something.

If anything, his strategic prowess often seems to be a result of "MC gains IQ in the face of danger" trope. For eg, since you seem to be acquainted with anime - take a look at Goku and Naruto. Not particularly bright, but in battle their geniuses.

Yes, it is possible for people to be dim in some areas and good in others, but the way it's written with Percy, Naruto etc it just seems to a variant of plot armor and self-insertion rather than a genuine streak of intellectual proficiency.

Like, yeah, sure the child of Athena (Annabeth) has less strategic feats than Percy. Totally not self-insertion.

Oh yeah no, definitely. Honestly I feel like the main reason that Annabeth has less feats that Percy is the fact that the no.1 rule in the PJO universe is: "No one can be better than Percy".

It fucked over Jason, it fucked over Ares in TLT, and not it fucks over Annabeth. How many more victims will fall to this rule? I don't wanna know, but it's probably gonna be a few more.

Though I do think it also helps that whenever Percy fights, the plot immediately twists around him to see him win. Either because his opponents immediately lose like 50 IQ points, or because Percy just so happens to fight near water/any other advantageous position. It's honestly insane, and the fact that no one calls it out is even more so.

(Also don't you dare compare Goku or Naruto to Percy. Yeah they do have some dumb plot armour at times and are definitely idiots but atleast they're entertaining. And actually somewhat well written. /jk)

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I mean if I was at camp half-blood and forced to sleep on the cramped floor at the Hermes cabin because my parent wouldn’t claim me I would totally be convinced to join Luke’s side that has a cruise with 8 lounges, several pools and spas, a bowling alley and hundreds of cabins.

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Imma be so fr, personally I'm not rly a fan of Lukercy. I find the age gab a bit uncomfortable- which doesn't mean I condemn the ship or anything. It's fictional characters smooching, so I don't really care what people do with them aslong as it stays in fiction. Live and let live, yk?

But also months spent in the PJO fandom constantly having to argue against the same bs points of people who cannot read their own books, ontop of unbelievable amounts of toxicity and buzz word throwing, brought me to the point where I exist out of spite to them. And I also know how much they fucking hate Lukercy.

So anyway yandere!Percy x Luke anyone? Percy, whose fatal flaw is loyalty, actually has that as a FLAW which turns him into some obsessive stalker??? I'm talking insane stuff, like. It starts out all innocent and cute during TLT where he just wants to stay near and around this cool older guy only to spiral when Luke betrays him. And with 'spiral' I mean Percy openly talking about wanting to lock Luke up so he'll never escape. He asks Chiron if there's a possiblity to brainwash people or erase someone's memory just so he can have Luke back. It's insanity. Annabeth herself starts being scarred. This thing isn't normal anymore.

And mind you Luke had no idea of any of this. He feels vaguely guilty about what happened but also, the Golden Age he is aiming to achieve is so much more important than even Luke himself. And he has to focus on that. Hell he doesn't even like....view Percy as an option. Or clock how absolutely insane that boy is about him due to their limited interaction. Perce is building a shrine in his honor like some psycho lover and Luke has no clue. He thinks Percy's inlove with Annabeth or smth. He assumes the kid's normal (or as normal as any demigod can get.)

So imagine his suprise when after he was supposed to have killed himself, Luke wakes back up in some ancient greek manor on an island. Magically unable to leave with a golden collar around his neck, and Percy eagerly awating him waking up.

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I hate this fandom.

Genuinley.

I despise it.

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I just had someone compare Luke's suffering to that of Percy and Annabeth and like...

....not to be mean or anything, but no? Just straight up, no. They are not at ALL comparable??? Which isn't to say that Percy and Annabeth didn't suffer- merely that Luke had it a billion times worse than them. Literally.

Yeah Annabeth got abandoned and had to deal with the gods, that sucked. But she still had camp, and well- Luke on the run to turn to. Luke himself never had anyone, not at home with May NOR at camp where he was pushed to take reponsibility of other demigods. Annabeth had little support, Luke had NONE AT ALL.

Same goes for Percy. He grew up ostracized and with an abusive stepdad. Which is also horrid. But mind you Percy still had a mom who loved him and spent enough time away from Gabe to atleast not have lasting Trauma (and No, I will not budge on this. We never once see Percy with any lasting trauma from Gabe in the books, stop with the headcanons).

It's honestly wild how people downplay Luke's life. Like. The boy went from an insane mom who couldn't take care of him and a dad who accepted that and had them live in filth, to a life on the streets, to a life where he was basically a child soldier expected to look after and train his fellow child soldiers. And I am NOT EVEN MENTIONING HIS QUEST OR ANYTHING THAT WENT DOWN IN CANON.

I knew the PJO fandom had little to no reading comprehension and are blind horndogs for their favs but still. Holy shit.

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Alright fuck it, let's get down to this.

-"Manipulated and loved bombed kids"

> Book Proof? Lovebombing is a very specific form of manipulation where you first "bomb" someone with love (aka, you give them a lot of it) and then take that love away to get them to do something. Luke never did that, and no Silena doesn't count. We don't know what Luke did there. She just found him charming, that's all. We have no further details. And no he didn't do it to Percy in tlt, that kindness in care was genuine. The Prophecy says Percy would be betrayed by someone that calls HIM a friend. Not who HE called a friend. Same goes for the manipulation claim as a whole (but yk who was Manipulated? Luke by Kronos, canonically stated. Since the guy was a teenager after an intensly traumatic life he recieved no help for)

- "Killed children bc he wanted to help demigods"

>Luke never killed anyone on page expect himself, that was Kronos. I assume you are reffering to the war bc that's where most kids died, expect at the end where he offed himself. Between that and everything else? Kronos. Luke was possesed. It's explicitly stated he had no control over those actions. Read the books. But also THANK YOU for proving my point, bc yk who killed demigods for "the greater cause"? Percy. Yk how he helped blow up the Princess Andromeda? Yeah, we know by Alabaster that he's pretty much the only survivor. Meaning Percy has atleast a kill count in the hundrets, and he did that outta his own free will. Oh and don't say "Well He warned them". They were literally in the middle of the ocean minutes before the whole thing went boom, there's nowhere near enough time to even just pass the warning on. So yeah, Percy canonically killed more demigods than Luke ever did yet y'all somehow only blame....Luke for things he didn't even do. Way to fuck over your entire argument by yourself lmao.

-"Luke using demigods for his egotistical revenge"

>He wanted a golden age. Like. You got his goal wrong (which is wild cause he stated it word for word during the very first book). Sure revenge is a part of it, but Luke wanted a golden age for demigods above all. Where there were no more gods and the demigods could live in peace. This wasn't a revenge plan, this was a revolution and liberation plan. Again read your books. (Also for the manipulation and abuse statements, read the stuff above). Also also, motherfucker ik damn well you did not compare Luke to the gods. You do realize that Luke was like.....a deeply traumatized kid right? And that demigods who did joined him mostly willingly??? AND THAT CANONICALLY A MAIN MOTIVATION FOR HIM IS ALSO A GENERAL LOVE FOR DEMIGOD KIND AS A WHOLE???? IF LUKE LOST THAT MOTIVATION DURING THE STORY LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'D BE NO STORY. OR PERCY WOULD HAVE LOST, BECAUSE THEN LUKE WOULD JUST LET KRONOS DO HIS THING AND NOT KILL HIMSELF TO STOP HIM. BECAUSE HE WOULDN'T CARE FOR OTHER DEMIGODS. INCULDING ANNABETH.

-"Dark Percy not hurting demigods to achieve his goal"

>Unrealistic as shit, mind you. You do realize the only reason Luke managed to get as far as he got was Kronos, right? Kronos was the reason the TA could command monsters and also why minor gods later on felt confident in joining up. Demigods alone could not defeat the gods, no matter how powerful they are. There's no way Percy on his own could ever realistically defeat the gods nor convince the minor gods and titans and what have you to join up. Not to mention that Percy "not hurting any demigods" would require for all demigods to switch sides with him, and for none to remain of the gods' side. Which is also dumb, because we know that the demigods generally think their parents are cool and are like.... never truly united. Remember when the Ares cabin pulled out of an ongoing war due to some petty squabbles? You think those guys will switch sides all together? Not even mentioning every other demigod around. And even if Percy got all of CHB, what about the undiscovered demigods who the gods would no doubts collect to be their soldiers, or New Rome, hmh? You realize how idiotic this idea is? Also, "Percy going on a crazy killing spree and never hurting innocents"??? 'Crazy killing spree' and 'never hurting innocents' in a sentence???? You do realize how that just doesn't work, right? And also you do know gods and titans can't be killed, merely sealed? Kronos ain't dead, he's down in Tartarus again. How, pray tell, do you think Percy as a mere mortal with no divine help is going to be able to do that?

-"Luke got lost in rage"

> Eh, true. He did fucked shit. But also his entire life was a ongoing torture porn flick DIRECTLY because of the gods, where it was drilled into him over and over again that the single most important thing was glory, which could only by achieved through violence (fighting shit = violence). And where general strenght and worthiness as a whole were benchmarked on how well you could fight (violence, again). Only to also never recieve any help for the various horrific traumas he recieved during the course of it ONTOP of being expected to basically run the single most negelected and abused cabin in all of camp. So how about you cut the deeply traumatized guy who probably has PTSD worse than Percy and any war vet of your choice combined some fucking slack? Especially considering that, again, had Luke truly "lost sight" of his og goal and only been in for revenge- then he wouldn't have killed himself, Kronos would have risen, Percy and Annabeth together with Grover are dead frfr and the gods locked in Tartarus.

Anyway thanks for comming to my ted talk. By god do I hate this fandom incapable of reading their own books and living off of hypocricy. Thank god I'm German so I got taught critical thought in school. And also I am done with you, dear rebloger. Block me cause if you respond I am not gonna read it, considering the amount of basic errors in this post of yours concerning the actual canonical events and posibilities of the PJO verse I do not think you'll be able to produce much better.

If I come of mean spirited that's because I held this exact discussion a billion times over and am quite frankly said tired of this bs.

Hot take time, the only reason most of the fandom hates Luke/condems his actions is because he's framed as the antagonist. If you kept everything in canon the same but portrayed Luke as the protagonist people would love and celebrate him.