On an unrelated note this is how you censor gore if youāre going to post fucking gore
Iāve seen multiple posts of actual fucking gore today COMPLETELY UNCENSORED
āA mother was begging me, crying and in a lot of pain to see her children. There wasnāt much we could do, it was too late.. two of her children were martyred.ā - There is no words to describe the exhaustion and heartbreak of the doctors of Gaza working around the clock.
Iām not against a ceasefire and I support a Palestinian state. That being said this post is concerning coming from supposed progressives because it plays on antisemitic stereotypes on greedy Jews but with the word Jew swapped with Zionist. The Star of David is UNDEBATABLY a Jewish symbol. Iām not saying Israel hasnāt stole some cultural symbols from the Palestinians but this just is antisemitic dog whistling
Just looked through your history thought you were based and pro Palestinian just more pragmatic, turns out youāre anti Palestinian and unbased
Palestine is Ruining the Left
I've taken this from Reddit because I've found it an interesting read, I did not write this myself, a user named u/
u/TooLittleNuance did. Feel free to reply and engage in converation.
I'm an Israeli-American leftist who has been active in American and Israeli politics for a number of years now. I have always advocated for human rights, equity, and self-determination for Palestinians who are oppressed(to different extents) under Israel, a nation that commits itself to Jewish domination of institutions. I always voted and campaigned for progressive Democrats and I assisted with the Israeli Meretz party from abroad. This is why I think the current Palestinian-sympathetic movement is ruining the left:
Abandonment of PragmatismĀ - Just like the 2020 George Floyd protests("Defund the Police"), the Western left has completely embraced a suicidal strategy of idealistic radicalism. Many of those on the left insist the solution to the conflict is a one-state solution consisting of Palestine "from the River to the Sea". Unfortunately, they've appropriated the Palestinian mythology in their ambitions to magically destroy Israel and the ideology of Zionism by BDS somehow or supporting Palestinian "armed struggle". It doesn't take a lot of thought to see how both of those methods are incredibly ineffective and immoral to advocate for and implement. So, instead of a pragmatic approach, like empowering the Israeli left through donations and advocacy, supporting a reasonable solution(two-state or one-state under Israel), or calling for the ultimate humanitarian end to the war of a unilateral Hamas surrender, the Western left insists on a dream scenario that will never happen. This is the most egregious behavior of the left and it's their most common mistake(i.e. Vietnam). This is due to the fact that Palestinians, especially in Gaza, are suffering under disproportionate Israeli force with no Western movement to realistically end it. In fact, these Western leftists, due to these tactics, are assisting in empowering and legitimizing the far-right of Israel. They are the perfect strawman to turn people off to the left in Israel, which, in turn, results in a lengthened Palestinian suffering.
MaximalismĀ - There's a tendency on the left to outcompete each other in radicalism. It's not catchy or sexy to say "The war tactics that Israel uses are disproportionate and don't consider enough of the humanitarian cost", it has to be "genocide" or "ethnic cleansing" in order to provoke an emotional reaction from uneducated Westerners. It's not "the security policy of Hafradah has resulted in reduced human rights of Palestinians compared to Israelis", it has to be "Apartheid"(with the only legal precedent being South Africa). These maximalist statements immeasurably hurt the movement for true progress on Palestinian human rights. It results in a boy-who-cried-wolf situation: If Israel decides to transfer the entire Gazan population to the Sinai, what is that called? A "genocide"? Due to the present labeling of the war, nobody will believe it. What if Israel permanently transfers or kills 100,000 Palestinian civilians? 200,000? 1 million? What will that be called? How can it get worse than "genocide"? This Maximalist rhetoric is not only inaccurate, but it's incredibly damaging to describe the proportionate extent of Palestinian suffering, which is vital to any movement that faithfully advocates for an upliftment of Palestinian life and identity.
Normalization of BigotryĀ - Explicit or latent Jew-Hatred is being increasingly embraced by radical sections of the Western left. Tropes such as "Zionist"(a euphemism for "Jew" for many) control of governments or blood libel. Wishing "Death to Zionists" or equating them with Nazis is, in most cases, latent Jew-Hatred. Regardless of your thoughts on the definition of Zionism(there is no definition, it is a meaningless term), it's clear that many believe that "Zionists" are just uppity Jews. Of course, this is genuinely believed by a small portion of the left. However, a substantial part of Western leftists has repeatedly failed to condemn this Jew-Hatred and to stop mirroring the language of these latent or explicit Jew-Haters. This is 1000x worse in the case of Israelis. For Western leftists, it's normal to call Israelis "colonizers", "demons", "rapists", and "child-murderers" on their social media without repercussion or introspective irony. As somebody belonging to the Israeli nationality, I have been desensitized to the insane amount of bigotry from those that I formerly respected. However, many Israelis or Jews aren't as depersonalized as I am, and they definitely take the bigotry to heart. What do you think results from that? Usually, a vote for Likud(Netanyahu's Party) or a donation to AIPAC. Thus, propagating a cycle of bigotry and continuing the suffering of Palestinians.
PropagandaĀ - This war has sparked the largest disinformation campaigns in human history. Multiple state entities (Israel, U.S., Russia, Iran, Qatar) and numerous private entities are pumping out loads of propaganda in order to manipulate uneducated Westerners into supporting their interests. Since October 7th, known Russian disinformation propagator, Jackson Hinkle, has skyrocketed in followers due to his ability to mislead Western leftists on the war. I have seen an unfathomable amount of reposts from Al Jazeera and MiddleEastEye, known Qatari state propaganda and major propagates of misinformation. I have always appreciated the value of institutional skepticism that embodied many of the historical and academic leftist leaders. However, right now, those values are completely thrown out in favor of Russia or Iran's geopolitical advocacy of "everything the West does is bad". The previous three points of behavior are certainly emboldened by the paid disinformation and bots that propagate anti-Western sentiment to destabilize Western democracy. Meanwhile, the basic interests of Palestinian civilians are left unregarded while these state operatives kill their only lifeline.
Reactionary ResurgenceĀ - One of the main factors that attracted me to the left was its rejection of reactionary ideology(the establishment of traditional institutions from the past). For Israelis and Palestinians, reactionary rhetoric is normalized and encouraged in many cases. However, this reactionary ideology that has plagued those who share my nationality has spread to Western leftists in their advocacy for Palestine. Western leftists constantly appropriate the far-right and reactionary talking points that many radicalized Palestinians spout. An example would be the insistence on the exclusive indigeneity of Palestine from the River to the Sea, which abandons the progressive values of anti-nationalism and intersectionality. Another example would be the appropriation of Palestinian Martyrdom, in which many of them embraced the idea that human life can be inherently reduced to a political or national cause by their manner of death. This is a clear rejection of the values of individualism, secularism, and anti-nationalism.
Historical NegligenceĀ - Those who are even a little bit informed on the Israel-Palestinian Conflict understand that the conflict is too complex to be treated as a soccer match of Israelis vs. Palestinians. Many Israeli and Palestinian leaders set roadblocks to an equitable peace, while many others progressed the conflict to a more positive state. Even more than the historical complexity of this conflict, evaluating the moral complexity requires a graduate degree in a relevant field with hundreds of hours of research. I typically advise not to trust anybody's commentary of the conflict with any less credibility than the previous sentence. However, the Western left has instead decided to follow the historical and moral analysis of demagogues. There's constantly factually wrong or misleading historical information on many of these Palestinian-sympathetic accounts. An example is the map of a "disappearing Palestine" that millions have reposted, a blatantly misleading map meant to depict "Zionist colonization", meanwhile, neglecting the historical borders of the conflict. There are many other forms of historical negligence that they commonly employ that are extremely damaging for understanding the conflict.
In conclusion, Western leftists are keeping up with the Western traditions of white saviorism and interfering with this particular trendy foreign conflict. I could have written a few more grievances that I have of the Western left(including the embracement of far-right Islamist groups) but I wanted to keep the post relatively short. In several months, Western leftists will forget about the Gazans suffering under the disproportional force of the IDF. Nobody will self-criticize the ideas or tactics that they engaged in, meanwhile, the Israeli left-wing and reliable non-Hamas Palestinian advocacy organizations are left in the dust by an ineffective white-savior-esqe Western movement. Not only that but due to all of these factors making the left look like lunatics, Biden and the Democrats are being affected in the polling, which may result in Trump being elected, a terrible outcome for Palestinians.
Itās quite literally impossible for a ceasefire to be called as Hamas would also have to be charged. The best the ICJ can do is have Israel take a ceasefire offer if available
Abdalhadi Alijla - "What can I tell my 76-year-old mother and my 10-year-old niece? "The ICJ does not see ordering a ceasefire as necessary for your survival." Gazans' eyes and ears were eagerly awaiting the word "stop" or "ceasefireā."
Abla Abdelhadi: "Please keep in mind our Palestinian people in Gaza don't feel like celebrating incremental legal "wins". They're allowed to express outrage, disappointment & whatever they want. They're still under Israel's bombs, nothing for them to celebrate!"
Remi Kanazi: "The ICJ isn't the authority here. Palestinians are. It is they who have experienced the genocide. It is they who have faced the gruesome crimes detailed in those halls. It is they who continue to bury the dead, search for food & hope to dodge the next bomb dropped. Ceasefire now."
I donāt care if the Houthis are in it for Gaza they fucking brutally kill gay people, deport Jews, and do fucking Hitler salutes and attack NON ISRAELI NON WESTERN CIVILLIAN VESSELS. I have nothing against the oppressed Yemeni people but the people are not the same as the government
in case it wasnāt clear i love the people of yemen with my whole heart. may allah protect them and grant them victory
Iām not pro IdF but Iām pretty sure a fired bullet would not be in casing. Also you canāt just say āblue tips are against the rulesā and not show the blue tip. Donāt make a weak argument for Palestine that will be easily defeated, make a strong argument with the actually existing evidence for the Palestinian cause
Netanyahu said that even The Hague can't stop them, despite constant blaring evidence of war crimes, and although I'm not surprised fellow settler-colonizer states support the IOF, it is beyond jarring nevertheless.
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Canāt help u why would you turn to me. Sorry but I donāt exactly have that kinda money on hand
There is no way for a human being to be born innately, inherently, ontologically, āa bad personā. There is no mental illness that makes a person innately, inherently, ontologically ābadā. There is no āabuser geneā. There is no āabuser disorderā. Whether or not someone is abusive, manipulative, and cruel, is based entirely on the behaviors they choose to engage in. How they choose to see people and treat people. What thoughts they choose to entertain.
If you immediately āmorally diagnoseā someone based on their mental illness, that they did not choose to have, you are choosing to engage in a cruel behavior. I donāt care if you believe youāreĀ āempatheticā, you do not have aĀ āgood personā gene, or some sort ofĀ āgood personā condition. Whether someone has high empathy or no empathy, all people are individually responsible for their own behaviors. There is nothing innate about you that absolves you from being responsible for abusive behavior.
Stop demonizing personality disorders, and start actually holding abusers accountable for their choices. End of argument.
what worries me far more than the performative āspam Jews Zionists with Palestinian flags & watermelon emojis onlineā & āblock traffic in random American citiesā type of āactivismā in-and-of-itself is the question of what Western leftists will do when all the graffiti, all the harassment, and all the rallies donāt magically make Israel disappear or stop bombing Palestine.
will they just lose interest & move on? I donāt know. accusing innumerable public figures of genocide hardly seems like the kind of thing you can justā¦ take back. I donāt see them coming back from that without a lot of introspection & humility, the likes of which I am not seeing in this movement
my worry is that theyāll just double down & weave the lack of progress into the conspiracy theory to claim itās the result of some nefarious zionist plot, and they will become more entrenched in paranoia & hatred