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It also seems like she pinned the side? The grey modesty shirt under is such a classic Jill move that I'm not even surprised lol

Jill got a replacement for that aluminum foil hip hugging dress she sold. It's funny because this one is a similar style, with the fabric all pulled to the side, I wonder if she tailors them like this to make them more form fitting.

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I noticed it too, but can't decide what is more suspicious 😅 Jan's dress and pose or Maddie's

Also if Jana was pregnant already around Christmas (the 4 Wissmans pregnancy) she should be around 4 months now, so 🤷 maybe she just wants to be more private or wait more before announcing idnk everything could be we will see in a couple of weeks i guess

I had a hard time recognising Josie

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John and I both love kids, and felt like we had capacity for more. But it is also important to us to make sure that we do our part for both of us to be healthy and present for the children we have. We weren’t sure if it was going to be in the cards for me to sustain another pregnancy with my heart condition, and we were not going to just assume that everything would be fine. So we waited and focused on loving the family we had for the past several years, while continuing to pursue whatever we could for my health. I can truly say that we were happy with whatever happened. I knew that if it eventually worked out for us to have one more baby, we would be extra grateful for the miracle, and that if it didn’t, we would be so thankful and blessed with the three we had.

This little excerpt is what led me to believe her as well, they wanted more, but they also wanted to be healthy and present for their current kids, and instead of ignoring the health problem they knew was there, they focused first on the kids they already had and seek real medical help before even deciding to try for another baby, without looking exclusively into have another blessing

Chelsy Maxwell says she's done

Just amazed by her telling on her blog she is done. I'm willing to believe her in contrary to Alyssa Webster

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39 already?? This year they are probably gonna hit 40, and is gonna be a breeze to arrive at 50 so half of the original number said from JB...Anyway I bet on Jason and Maddie for the pregnancy reel on Instagram that Jason liked a few weeks ago and Maddie's bloodwork

Joy said on Jinger & Jeremy's podcast they are up to 39 grandchildren

That's interesting, I haven't watched it yet and can't right now. But I definitely will now

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On Reddit, some poster says that listening to Carlin and Evan's last video they made the count of the grandbabies and said that theirs is #35 due in September, so since they didn't count any other couple it adds more legitimacy to the mysterious grand Bates being Emerson's

Found this today. The registry is password protected so I’d be willing to bet it’s legit.

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@countingandsnarkingon there were pictures from when they renovated Nathan and Nurie's church and you could clearly see that Nurie is wearing pants

If Nathan okayed Nurie wearing pants on occasion, Jill probably can’t say too much publicly.

I personally think Jill would love to remain in full control over what her married kids do but if she practiced what she preaches about their branch of fundieism (DOUBT) Nathan has the final say on what Nurie does (but he also seems all to happy to accommodate whatever Jill wants)

Yea the fundie mom protocol with that kind of stuff is to defer to a husband's judgment, generally. Jill is such a wild card and hypocrite though it's hard to predict what she'd do in that kind of situation lol. Like I mentioned, I really don't think that's the first time a Rod girl has worn pants for a job like painting, but if it were, and Jill was practicing what she preaches, she wouldn't be in the right to question Nathan's judgement. Fundie mom's only do that over serious issues, like if Nathan had convinced Nurie queer people deserve human rights, it'd be a whole 'nother thing.

Plus Nathan is special case because he's a Keller and the perfect kids of bigot for Jill Nurie. So they could probably get away with things some other kids couldn't.

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Three with me!

So fundies have rotted my brain because the first thing I thought when I saw “Bloodwork” was “Oh so she’s pregnant”

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Yeah, she seems worn out lately, I haven't thought about the possibility that her plexus earnings are shrinking. I wonder how she will spin the eventual shutdown of her wonderful fix-all juice. I have seen people saying that she didn't earn the necessary points in time to qualify even back in December and yet she kept saying she was going. I hope you are right about the new clothes and she just added that for drama effect.

First I wanna say I'm sorry for the shitty situation you guys are living in and I can't even begin to understand the stress and the fear you have to be under. I live in Europe (Italy to be more specific) and even if I see a lot of worries about how things are turning here, I also know how lucky I am for now (if nothing changes too bad here also following that orange person). Anyway, I wanted to know your opinion about Jill and the last plexus fiasco with the cruise that she was so sure to go to. Do you think she is gonna swipe it under the floor like with the broken courtship? Will she demand a Big Vacation for David (maybe combined with a Valentine's gateway) to make up for it? Will she push Nurie and Kaylee to promote more plexus so that she can qualify for the thing?

I'm torn between being happy that she couldn't go (she didn't deserve it and it was obvious from December she didn't have a chance) and be sad for the kids that will have to deal with her so pissed now instead of having a break from her

thank you for saying that, i really appreciate it ❤️it will be a long four years, for sure.

i didn't see it but i believe Jill addressed the cruise on her Instagram story and she made it sound like she couldn't go because Plexus planned the cruise poorly? which doesn't make a lot of sense to me lol

but most people think it's just an excuse because she didn't want to admit she didn't earn the cruise this year (even though she didn't go last year..........i guess she wants to be able to brag regardless). it's made a lot of people wonder if Jill's Plexus earnings are starting to shrink, which would definitely affect her family's financial situation (personally i believe she earns the majority of their expendable income).

i think it's very likely that they go on a Valentine's trip to one of those Amish "resorts" Jill loves so much unless it's true that their finances are suffering. i will say, i don't usually comment on looks but Jill has just looked exhausted on her Instagram stories the last few days. it feels like something's going on with her, maybe she's just been extra busy but lately, she's just seemed tired in a way that she usually doesn't.

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Oh well I don't dislike the names, I like them as first names Emma and Elsie but a bit of individuality is seen as a bad thing in this family? C'mon all the girls with the same middle names bah fundies

The Twins are here, Emma Kate and Elsie Kate

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Mmmm do we know Kim's middle name? They could choose to honor the mothers with their middle names so is a little bit less obvious and maybe "easier"? Also we already have the M kids to honor Michelle so maybe this could be another reason to choose the middle names? Dunno just thinking around

Any ideas about the Twins names, I feel like they’ll keep their theme of what I’d call “Short and Classic” for the girls. Big sister is Nora Kate so, possibly a four-letter first and middle name?

Lucy Anne and Lily Jane? I feel like they’ll do the classic twin same first letter thing. Anyway, let me know your thoughts (my cat is still missing and I need a distraction)

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For me personally, the color and style of Jessa's bridesmaid's dresses are a big no, is more that than anything else. For example, I liked her wedding dress even if it was part of the early very obviously modest dresses

Best bridesmaidsdress Duggars&Bates

While we are waiting for the results of round three of the best weddingdress already a poll for who had the best bridesmaidsdresses.

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Well since Zach said there where news a couple of weeks ago by now, I will say is highly possible since the family clearly knows well about it

One more week until thanksgiving. Will we hear about the Bates baby's before then or not?

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@fundiepredictions you are not the only one, also why #spring 2025 if you already know you are going to get married way sooner? I mean October 3 is right over the corner if you have a wedding to organize 🤔

I found Maddie and Jadon's wedding website. October 3rd is the real date. Their website is now locked with a password

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Yeah the twins and also is still easy that someone is pregnant right now and hasn't announced it yet, anyway, I think it will be harder and harder to have a year without at least a couple of births

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Nurie never complain, the fact that she probably dosen't even think she has the right to escape Jill, is her greatest attribute apparently for Jill and her like 🤮🤮🤮

This just made me so irrationally mad

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@countingandsnarkingon her "SEVERLY torn knee" that forced her to rest with her leg up just after Nehmo's birth? That severely torn knee you mean? But obviously Plexus cured that too! Don't you know her "miracle pink drink"?

Nurie had the baby and had to play hostess at Sofia’s birthday party the next day fully dressed and made up. Jill is a tactless ghoul and Nathan needs to grow a spine.

I know it’s so exhausting even just to look at. Jill does this every time too, she either brings herself to the birth or her and a few of the kids, and you know damn well she isn’t doing it to be helpful and take care of the other kids while Nurie recovers and focuses on the new baby. She was what, fifty or so hours postpartum and hosting a birthday party for her little sister? If Nurie isn’t infuriated then I’ll be on her behalf