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"What do you want from a remake" I DON'T WANT THEM. I DON'T WANT ANOTHER SOULLESS NOSTALGIA-FILLED CASH-GRAB. I DON'T WANT ANY OF THEM. I DON'T WANT ADAPTATIONS THAT KILL THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE OF THE THING THEY WERE BASED UPON NEITHER THE SHOT-BY-SHOT DESATURATED RECREATIONS. I WANT ORIGINAL STORIES!!! NOT REMAKES OF MOVIES THAT AIN'T EVEN 30 YEARS OLD!!!​AAGGGGGHHH

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it’s crazy how much of deltarune backwards-contextualizes undertale.

like, now we know that the reason chara’s narration becomes so distinct in genocide run is because toby fox wanted to explore the idea of a game protagonist struggling against the player to assert their personality

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i see you reblog stuff from me sometimes WHO ARE YOU!!!!! /lh

Every

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Kris Deltarune

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I think that Tao standing roughly ten seconds away from you and running at you screaming should be the new standard form of time measurement

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Deltarune chap 3 spoilers

Look at this goober

Apparently if you get to a certain part of the TV Time song during the fight while on the music minigame ralsei does a big finish and gets embarrassed about it lmao

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starwalker

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the original

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I just want everyone to know, that no matter what kind of super cool well crafted jokes I encounter in the future, absolutely none of them will compare to a stretched jpeg of a jack-o-lantern going "YOUR LONG" ytp style

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i dont lose interest in favorite characters they just get added to my extra inventory slots

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So some Deltarune/Weird Route theory talk def with heavy spoilers

So I am now subscribed to the theory that the Weird Route, was supposed to be the right route for Kris to want to take up to the point right before Berdly gets snowgraved. Think of it like this, every single secret boss so far has been something that knows more than the others, wether about fate/prophecy or just the way the story goes in general, and in the case of course with Jevil and Spamton they both went insane as a result.

So the Shadow Crystals are described as glass, and when you look through it you can see the other side. Perhaps all of the beings with these crystals (except Gerson he didn't want to use his) are trying to see and make a new reality for themselves, trying to break out of all of the preordained fates they have. And to do that, one would need to get enough of them and get the Pure Crystal to see clearly.

But just seeing wouldn't be enough, you need to be able to break fate, break the prophecy, break out of the control placed upon them, perhaps even with a special weapon to do so. Hence of course the Twisted Sword. But see the twisted sword required both a Pure Crystal AND the Thorn Ring to make. So of course in order to break out of their own fate, Kris would want to collect these things. Since they have some kind of already made connection to the Knight and some other darkeners it wouldn't be too farfetched to think they already knew of the path involving Noelle and Spamton through all the prophecies. Except there is one problem with it, we break it too far.

Kris is very compliant when we start doing tbe route in chapter 2, we get next to no additional reaction or feedback from them from our choices, they want to get the ThornRing too. It probably is painful to cause grief to Noelle but at this point they probably feel like they have to bear it until they get what they need. However that ends up being their big mistake, because we, as the player, now see the opportunity to try and see how far we can go. It's evident by the fact that the snowgrave option has no fanfare or notice that it's there. It just is and nobody but us could make it happen. And we force Noelle to follow through on it. It wasn't supposed to go that far.

In the aftermath we learned that Kris tried to fix the extra damage we caused, tried to reassure Noelle, they carried Berdly to the hospital, they pulled the thorn ring off of Noelle's finger and stashed it away on their person for what they need it for. They try to get back on track after that, but of course they now realize how much more harm we can cause than they originally thought. They tell Noelle to not talk about what they did because they're afraid of us doing any more.

However now we know what we are capable of, and so that of course goes into the scenes in chapter 4. We know we cannot be pushed around by Kris if we really choose not to be, and if we're really curious we see how far we can go with it again. Breaking the bounds and rules to use the dialogue to break into the room. Forcing ourself back into Kris to choose their actions again. And even reading the dialogue boxes for Noelle's thoughts, which would be impossible for anyone but us as an outside player. The route is about breaking the bounds of what should be done, of going too far and suffering the consequences. Perhaps all of it is leading to us fully breaking away from Kris through Noelle, using the tools that Kris themselves wanted to gather to try and break free themselves in the crystals and ring.

But of course Kris now knows what we can do, they are angry and scared of us now. They react more viscerally to several dialogue options in the chapter because they are trying to do anything they can to get at us. To keep any semblance of control from us possible. Pissed perhaps at the fact that they let this chain of events start to get the ring but let it go too far and now we're off the leash. They wanted to break themselves free but they might have ended up accidentally breaking us free in the process.

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Hey so if anyonw is curious about weird/alternate routes in Deltarune Chapters 3/4, I have some things for you to do: Spoilers ahead though if you dont wanna look

So first off, as far as I can tell there isn't a separate route for Chapter 3 this may be found later if it does exist, there is however the hardest shadow crystal in the game to get so far.

If you get S rank on all of the game boards you can get backstage after each one and follow the path to. That'll get you what you need to beat the boss that you will encounter at the end of the chapter. It's still very hard though.

And now for the real stuff, chapter 4. As far as I can tell there is some absurd level setup to fuck up the rest of the plot here. What you need to do, is have a save file that did the Snowgrave route from chapter 2. Everything will go as usual in the chapter with some minor differences from Noelle.

Then as you go through the sequence with Kris being separate, she'll get Kris to talk to her alone, in which you can get in the vents to eavesdrop. But you will also suddenly be outside the vent in the middle of it and can move to and take back control of Kris during the talk. From there you'll know which dialogue options to press :) if you don't take control in time Kris will bolt out and the route will be aborted

After that is all done the rest of the chapter can proceed as usual, though there are some small dialogue changes with anything involving Noelle and Kris's reactions to you choosing them, enjoy the horrors everyone! (Also the very end of the chapter changes too when you do this)

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TOBY FOX YOU MOTHERFUCKER (Positive)

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HE SAID IT!! HE SAID IT!!

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